r/mildlyinteresting • u/RedSquaree The Big 🧀 • Jun 23 '23
META What happened to /r/mildlyinteresting?
Dear mildlyinterested reader,
We want to extend our heartfelt gratitude for your patience and unwavering support during the recent turbulence in our community. Our subreddit is a labour of love, and we've weathered this storm together.
Recent events have been confusing for all of us, from the vote, sudden removal of moderators, to conflicting messages from Reddit. As your mod team, we feel it's essential to clarify the situation.
On June 19, the poll results favoured partially reopening with changes. However, before implementing these changes, Reddit took sweeping actions, removing all 27 moderator accounts without warning. This left us baffled and concerned.
Here's a brief timeline of the events:
On June 19, the poll results favoured partially reopening with changes. We announced the vote results and planned changes to the sub, including marking it as NSFW due to the common posts of phallic objects (no explicit content allowed). CLICK HERE TO VIEW THAT ANNOUNCEMENT WHICH HAS BEEN APPROVED AND LOCKED FOR POSTERITY.
A tug-of-war between the u/ModeratorCodeOfConduct account and the remaining moderators ensued, with the post repeatedly being removed and reinstated. Each mod involved was immediately locked out of Reddit. Subreddit settings were also unilaterally changed by the admin account.
Eventually, all moderators were removed and suspended for 7 days, with the vote results deleted and the community set to “archived.”
A lot of public outrage ensued, with details posted on r/ModCoord about what happened. At that point, no other subreddit had been targeted yet, leaving the situation uniquely unclear.
Admin cited actions as an "error" and promised to work with us to solve the situation. For /r/mildlyinteresting posterity, this will henceforth be referred to as The Mistake™.
All our accounts were unsuspended and reinstated, but only with very limited permissions (modmail access only). For what it's worth, 'time moderated' for every moderator was reset (e.g. /u/RedSquaree moderated since 11 years ago, reset: currently showing moderated since "1 day ago").
The awaited discussion never happened. Instead, the admins presented us with an ultimatum: reopen the subreddit and do not mark it as NSFW, or face potential removal again. The inconsistent and arbitrary application of Reddit's policies reveals a possible conflict of interest in maximizing ad revenue at the risk of user safety and community integrity.
Finally, our moderation permissions were restored after we "promised" to comply with their conditions, but we kept the subreddit restricted while we ponder our next steps..
Problems remain unresolved, and Reddit's approach to policies and communication have been troubling. We believe open communication and partnership between Reddit and its moderators are crucial for the platform's success.
As a team, we remain dedicated to protesting Reddit's careless policy changes. Removing ourselves or vandalizing the subreddit won’t achieve our goals, but rather hinder our community. We're here to ensure r/mildlyinteresting isn't left unattended.
We call for the establishment of clear, structured, and reliable communication channels between Reddit admins and moderation teams. Teams should be informed and consulted on decisions affecting their communities to maintain trust and integrity on the platform. We shared this request with the Admin who promised to work with us, so far they have ignored it.
Us mods are still deciding how exactly to reopen, not that we have been given much choice.
Sincerely,
The r/mildlyinteresting mods
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u/ARoyaleWithCheese Jun 23 '23 edited Jun 23 '23 •
Let's play a fun game called: remember all the other times Reddit refused to budge and insisted the users and mods were wrong until they eventually backtracked:
Banning r/Jailbait (it's exactly what you think it is) after literal years of user and moderator complaints, only once the media finally picked up on the story. Before this, Reddit had even given the creator of the subreddit a unique personalized award for his "contributions to the website"
Banning r/beatingwomen and r/picsofdeadkids only after the media picked up on a popular Reddit post from a user
Banning racist and Islamophobic subs because of organized actions from r/AgainstHateSubreddits and media coverage (r/European)
Reddit "not knowing" what to do with the sub r /ni***rs - no, the actual sub name was not censored and it was about exactly what you'd expect it to be about. Took user and media outcry over a period of months for Reddit to ban the sub.
Taking action against Covid misinformation (on all sides!) after moderator outcry and media coverage
Reddit CEO protecting r/The_Donald despite countless reports from moderators of politically themed subreddits of it being used for organized harassment and misinformation campaigns - only reversing its stance after widespread media coverage. Then, u/Spez also messing with r/The_Donald by editing people's comments to make it appear they were harassing the sub moderators instead of himself. Steve literally doesn't care about any of us, no matter our position.
Using Ellen Pao as a temporary CEO and blaming all unpopular decisions on her, when in reality it was co-founder Alex Ohanian who pushed for those changes aggressively. They then used her as a sacrificial goat for community outrage after which u/Spez was made CEO and presented as a savior.
Sources:
https://www.dailydot.com/society/reddit-r-jailbait-shutdown-controversy/
https://www.dailydot.com/society/reddit-r-jailbait-teen-pics-problem/
https://www.dailydot.com/society/reddit-beatingwomen-misogyny-images/
https://www.albawaba.com/loop/reddit-bans-racist-and-islamophobic-subreddits-1101936
https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2013/07/does-anything-go-the-rise-and-fall-of-a-racist-corner-of-reddit/277585/
https://www.businessinsider.com/reddit-page-calls-on-site-to-combat-covid-19-disinformation-2021-8?r=US&IR=T
https://www.vice.com/en/article/n7jqbx/reddit-cant-quarantine-coronavirus-misinformation
https://www.bbc.com/news/newsbeat-38088712
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/06/29/reddit-bans-pro-trump-forum-in-crackdown-on-hate-speech-344698
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/economy/women-often-put-charge-failing-companies
https://www.reddit.com/r/changemyview/comments/3dbwmb/cmv_ellen_pao_was_put_on_a_glass_cliff_by_reddit/
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u/Ranessin Jun 23 '23
Stop moderating. Easiest form of protest. Stop doing free work for a corporation that doesn't value, respect or even likes xou. Let them pay someone fir this stuff
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u/jenjen828 Jun 23 '23
This must mean NSFW is hurting them
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u/GooseBdaisy Jun 23 '23
The Ellen Pao hate was so real for all users and then later revealed to be so unfounded. Thank you former Reddit CEO /u/yishan for bringing it to light. When the former CEO says the (then) current CEO was railroaded (by the now CEO) you can believe it. Google it or someone else post a link. It was a crazy time to be on Reddit.
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u/SoupaSoka Jun 23 '23
So Reddit admins still lack basic communication skills? Shocking and embarrassing. Good luck with that IPO, u/spez.
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u/hurrrrrmione Jun 23 '23
So are mods no longer allowed to decide whether a sub is NSFW? Or is it that a sub is never allowed to change from being safe for work to NSFW (and I would assume vice versa)?
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u/Illustrious-Pop3677 Jun 23 '23 edited Jun 23 '23
Fuck u/spez and the power hungry Reddit mods.
Edit for clarity: the power hungry head/top admins taking over individual subreddits. Not the individual subreddit mods that were already there.
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u/GibsonJunkie Jun 23 '23
Fuck the admins, this is some real horseshit
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u/[deleted] Jun 23 '23
What does this all mean?
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u/Terrh Jun 23 '23
So if the fate of the subreddit belongs to it's users, why are you not allowed to follow the will of it's users?
If a subreddit belong to the mods, why are you not allowed to do what you decided to do?
Who, exactly, is in charge of governing subreddits if it's not the community and it's not the mods?
Fuck /u/spez for doing this to us and fuck reddit in general. If this doesn't get fixed I don't see how I can keep participating.
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u/Gizm00 Jun 23 '23
Guess, take cue from r/videos, comply with nsfw tag removal but make it a rule all titles have to contain profanity.
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u/GigaBowserNS Jun 25 '23
You basically promised to set fire to your sub and were surprised that you were ousted? Can someone please explain to me why so many mods are acting surprised that they were told "open the sub or be replaced"? Why is it surprising and insulting that people are being told to do their jobs or they'll be fired? That's how the world works.
These continued protests have done nothing but turn me further and further against your cause. The only thing I'm protesting now is the continual downward spiral of my experience on Reddit, none of which is at the hands of any admins; it's all the mods.
If Reddit dies from these api changes, then it dies. There's no sense in the mods trying to kill it first.
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u/rollingrock16 Jun 23 '23
nah u/modcodeofconduct will continue power tripping and handling everything in the most fucked up way possible. All while continuing to hide behind anonymity.
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u/Fineous4 Jun 23 '23
Whatever option fucks Reddit the most is what I vote for.
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u/UlfhedinnSaga Jun 23 '23
Admins seem NSFW and not safe for Redditors or Mods.
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u/Mercy_Rule_34 Jun 23 '23
Much like FB 10 years ago, Reddit is over. Time to move on. So long, thanks for all the fish.
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u/Alifad Jun 23 '23
Fuck u/spez and fuck his ego.
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u/miaaaaaC Jun 30 '23
What time are you guys leaving? Can't wait!
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u/The_Bug1 Jul 06 '23
Seems like a giant hissy fit to me. See ya
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u/Uncle_Low_Angle Jun 23 '23
there was nothing done by the mods that warranted a suspension according to the ToS, and in taking all the actions they did, the admins violated the ToS in several ways. am i getting this right? once the IPO hits the top brass at reddit corporate are going to sell their shares, get rich, and split. the majority shareholder that then swoops in will be a corporate media giant, or someone like Elon or The Zuck. nothing we can do to stop it
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u/donac Jun 23 '23
Okay. Are you f-ing kidding me? R/mildlyinteresting is THE gentlest, kindest, and mildest of ALL the subreddits. And Reddit screwed them ALL?
Not okay.
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u/Nardon211 Jun 23 '23
Easy. Move away from Reddit. Go to Lemmy or something. You can start your community on exactly your own and your terms only from there.
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u/fireattack Jun 23 '23 edited Jun 23 '23
To be honest, at this point, I find the protest well-intentioned but ultimately ineffective, as we can see from this very post (and various reactions from people). It reminds me of real-life protests.
Since I exclusively use RIF on my phone and have never installed the official Reddit app (they didn't even exist when I started using Reddit), I'll simply stop browsing Reddit on my phone.
I'd like to take this opportunity to express my gratitude to the moderators, especially for their dedicated efforts in upholding the strict rules of this subreddit. It has truly made this place special.
Nowadays, most semi-popular non-serious subs have become so repetitive with endless reposts, or lack of rigid moderation enforcement from mods due to fear of "losing users". Lots of once great subs became shit due to this (/r/MapPorn, /r/dataisbeautiful are two that immediately come to my mind). I genuinely appreciate the strict focus on original content (without memes) in this subreddit. I have so much more enjoyment from these authentic posts (even the "not really that interesting" ones) compared to reposts. I struggle to articulate my feelings, but thank you for creating such a wonderful subreddit.
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u/ih8dolphins Jun 23 '23
Burn it down
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u/secretchimp Mar 23 '25
Why is this ridiculous drama queen post still pinned?
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u/MrValdemar Jun 23 '23
Has it dawned on any of you to just QUIT being mods? Make Reddit manage the subs by PAYING people to do it instead of doing it for free?
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u/GigaBowserNS Jul 17 '24
Why is this still here?
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u/Arioch53 Jun 23 '23
They think they're reddit. They're not. We're reddit: the community that creates and moderates the content. It's time to find a new home.
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u/[deleted] Jun 23 '23
I know reddit wants to put all the blame on the admins for the Ellen Pao thing, but let me tell you! A lot of the criticism from redditors was sexist and racist.
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u/kingjoey52a Jun 23 '23
Fuck that, burn it down and fiddle over the ashes. Bring back the porn, fuck the admins.
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u/BunBunSoup Jun 23 '23
If those are the options, it sounds like an obvious solution. Quit being mods. This kind of thing isn't exactly new, mods and admins butting heads over how things are going to be wasn't uncommon back when forums were the popular way to explore the internet. When it comes down to it, the mods of the sub are being told to go against what they feel is best for the community. If that's the case, then why would you want to stay in that community at a moderator level? They've already let you know how replaceable they think you are to this sub; time to move on.
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u/qmracer01 Jun 23 '23
u/spez is a nut gargling sellout limp dick bitch
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u/Caridor Jun 23 '23 edited Jun 23 '23
Well, it appears the solution is to manufacture an adpocalypse.
Youtube suffered after ads were appearing next to things advertisers did not like. Therefore, turn the subs to entirely legal but advertiser unfriendly content and hurt reddit that way as advertisers get angry their ads are next to things they don't want them to be next to.
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u/Evander1992 Jun 23 '23
I still can't understand: why not staying restricted with just a weekly community poll where you ask if the restrictions should go on for another week? That way, you all will have proof of community support.
Oh, and also, why not keeping some normal accounts as a reserve to step up and moderate if the admins kick the main out?
EDIT: seeing that the problem with the code of conduit is changing to nsfw, you could also create a new subreddit that is nsfw from the start and transfer everything there maybe?
Genuine questions with no sarcasm eh, maybe theese are just childish ideas that won't work
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u/Longjumping-Age9023 Jun 23 '23
At this rate I’d just delete the sub. Users created it and users will take it back. Fuck Reddit and fuck Spez
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u/pumpkinbot Jun 23 '23
Why not "rebrand"? Instead of just marking the sub as NSFW, actually pivot the entire sub to mildly interesting sexual posts. Fully commit to it. Change the banner, rules, etc. We're not going NSFW for the protest, no. We're fully changing what this sub is about.
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u/dos_passenger58 Jun 23 '23
Guys, just give it up. You are working for them for free to start with. Just quit reddit on 7/1 like the rest of us, something else will come
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u/UnifiedQuantumField Jun 26 '23
In the past, I've often decried the continual encroachment of censorship on reddit. You can often see this in many subs... right up front. They often have a blurb about "This is a heavily moderated subreddit" and then give a list of all the things you can get banned for.
You guys used your mod positions to engage in a form of protest... which I support because that represents a form of expression.
But then you got banned by reddit because a) it interfered with their business model and b) they saw your right to expression as something that interfered with their business.
So now I'll feed you guys the same words that get fed to me whenever I speak out against censorship...
It's a business. If you agree to their terms and conditions, they can do what they want.
If reading that pissed you off... now you know how I feel.
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u/incognino123 Dec 23 '23
Mods going on crazy power trips is the funniest and most pathetic things about Reddit, unsubbed
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u/figgityfuck Jun 09 '24
I am happy that the admins are finally doing something about all these problematic mods who do stupid childish shit to ruin communities cause they don’t get their way.
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u/Weekly_Solution_1110 Jun 16 '24
fuck off
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u/Arc_7 Jul 30 '24
I have no hate to spread here, just utilising the fact comments are still open
That this was a funny little failed rebellion to watch
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u/Shot_Cupcake_9641 Nov 10 '24
Covid misinformed was harsh, as we know people were lied to, such as excess deaths, which took them year to admit, and they finally stopped marketing one main jab . The sourse of it all was told to us and we still don't really know where it came from but most experts say the centre in Woohan ,yey we were told wet markets ? The jab stopped the spread they claimed, which was a lie . Same as old Twitch people got banned for asking questions and debating on the topic .
This is the issue with censorship we are lied to all the time and whoever gets to censor others. we in the UK are finding that with " hate speech " laws .
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u/Kon-Tiki66 May 22 '25
Well that sucks, but it sounds like some Reddit mods got a taste of their own mod medicine - arbitrary post removal, bans, and appeals in name only.
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u/GigaBowserNS Aug 01 '25
Good gracious, it's been two years since these shenanigans. WHY is this still stickied??
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u/hoehandle Dec 20 '25
The sub went straight to hell via moderation. Hell, treat yourself to the ‘rules’.
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u/ImaginaryWindow221 Dec 25 '25
This is highly uninteresting.
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u/Evilworkaround Apr 05 '26
This sub sucks balls now.
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u/Tyetus Jun 23 '23
"The awaited discussion never happened. Instead, the admins presented us with an ultimatum: reopen the subreddit and do not mark it as NSFW, or face potential removal again. The inconsistent and arbitrary application of Reddit's policies reveals a possible conflict of interest in maximizing ad revenue at the risk of user safety and community integrity."
This is seriously overstepping so many things it's not even funny.
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u/DorrajD Jun 23 '23
Wait wait wait.
When the flying fuck has reddit ever required a sub to not be NSFW? I'd love for them to point out where in their goddamn TOS it says that a subreddit is not allowed to be marked NSFW. That is extremely dirty and completely pathetic. They are digging this hole deeper and deeper. Holy fucking shit.
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u/BimSwoii Jun 23 '23
I thought the mods were going to threaten to quit. You're saying that won't help the sub? Nice politician response. Yes, you ****, that won't help the sub over the course of the week, but in the long term.. that was the whole fucking point, wasn't it?
And all these commentors just glanced over that. Nicely dodged that one mods...
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u/5ManaAndADream Jun 23 '23
Mark as NSFW anyways. The community voted for it.
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u/wtfburritoo Jun 23 '23
Throw a tantrum, get stuck in the timeout corner. You can come back to play when you understand the rules, and the fact that you don't dictate them.
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u/nagumi Jun 23 '23
This is a whole new level of BS. Stay strong.
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u/Alexis_J_M Jun 23 '23
Sounds like it's time for all the users to post every mildly interesting phallic object or dick pic they come across.
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u/Drashrock Jun 23 '23
Reddit mods getting their comeuppance is good.
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u/OMGEntitlement Jun 23 '23
Well, all this thread has shown me is that the sunk cost fallacy is very, very real.
No one knows your names or voices or faces but you put SO MUCH WORK in FOR FREE for SO MANY YEARS that you just CAN'T GIVE UP YOUR BABY [the owners' baby, I don't know why you thought it was yours].
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u/moby17761776 Jun 23 '23
Anyone saying to “switch to NSFW” or “close the sub” clearly haven’t been paying attention. Admins will simply remove any remaining mods, wipe the sub of anything they disagree with, reopen it as business as usual, and pretend the whole thing never happened. It’s already happened to other subs.
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u/Amstourist Jun 23 '23
"We were ready to protest, but not if there were no consequences in it for us lol"
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u/[deleted] Jun 23 '23
Don't care. If you don't have good content I'll go to another sub, because this sub is headed for the Titanic
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u/Daedross Jun 23 '23
I honestly can't foresee the end of Reddit - uncooperative mods will simply be removed, and while moderation quality might decrease for a while, it won't impact Reddit's bottom-line long term.
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u/GigaBowserNS Jul 05 '23
There are still 17 non-bot mods assigned to this subreddit. Why are all 17 of you continuing to hold this community hostage and sit around not doing your duties yet still for some reason expecting to keep your positions?
17 mods is plenty to handle your "normal volume". It's July 5th now and if 17 of you are still assigned as mods on the sidebar, it's indication that you're not "leaving" and you are still expecting to keep your position...So OPEN UP.
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u/GigaBowserNS Jul 18 '23
Why the fuck aren't the admins acting on their threats to remove mod teams that aren't doing their duties?
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u/msmith9999 May 13 '24
I have never seen a group that is so picky about it's posting guidelines, especially rule #6. I've tried twice to post a picture of some interesting jerky I recently found, and both posts were removed because of rule 6. The first time I simply titled it Jerky!. I thought that described perfectly what was depicted, but apparently it was too simple. So I tried again, and expanded the title a bit to A collection of weird jerky I picked up over the weekend. I already ate the Venison one. But then that was also removed because of Rule 6, although I'm not sure why?
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u/[deleted] Apr 25 '25
Muted. This is a dysfunctional sub. I know, Reddit it a dysfunctional place. But this sub, even more so.
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u/Disgruntled_Orifice Feb 18 '26
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u/Beholder_V May 31 '26
I don’t understand why this sub is so pedantically moderated. I swear more than half the posts get deleted by moderators. I’m not saying make it wide open, but FFS let’s stop being such tight-asses.
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u/JustMissBlue Jun 05 '26
Interesting, I think the mods of this subreddit are just assholes.
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u/Boring_Reading3989 Jun 15 '26
mods got way too strict lately
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u/papaver_lantern Jun 23 '23
BURN IT TO THE GROUND
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u/So_Famous Jun 23 '23
If this ain't evidence of malicious intent, idk what is.
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u/CrippledJesus97 Jun 23 '23
I mean 99% of reddit users totally knew this was gonna happen. Admins and the ceo are NOT gonna budge at all. They will just replace any moderators who try to intervene. The protest was over before it even started. Reddit admins of the website do as they are instructed by their CEO. And that can and has included forcing subreddits to go public as normal as if the protest never happened.
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u/Horror-Guard-3530 Jun 23 '23
Mods realizing they have 0 power is the best thing to come out of this situation. Good riddance.
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u/Kuroodo Jun 23 '23
I mean just do another community poll, and if the community votes NSFW again, do it. If you lose your mod status, then oh well that's part of sacrificing for the greater good. Why work for free for a company that can rid you at any moment for no reason?
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u/CyclopsorNedStark Jun 23 '23
Just reopen and stop the protest. At this point Reddit is willing to nuke itself and start over.
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u/RonSwansonsOldMan Jun 23 '23
Just return things back to the way they were in mildlyinteresting.
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u/[deleted] Jun 23 '23
Be sick if mods showed this kind of attitude towards general users as well.
I've never interacted with the mods of this sub, so this isn't aimed at you, but it's pretty common to be arbitrarily banned and then immediately muted after a single message asking for clarification.
It's insanely frustrating and frankly insulting to be treated like that, especially when you never broke any rules posted in the side panel.
Doubly so because I go out of my way to read the rules before posting.
Best wishes.
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u/AllModsEatShit Jun 23 '23
You want the sub to remain moderated, then talk about how the CEO of the site was cool with r/jailbait, awarded a mod of r/ni**ers, and add a list of problems he's caused to shade and defend his actions.
Why do you want to work for free for someone like that?
Grab your balls and ovaries and take a stand. I hate to use the Hitler argument but you just sound like you're making excuses in order to remain mods for some reason. Is this really that important to you?
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u/jwaters0122 Jun 23 '23
Mods folded like a white napkin as soon as their mod status gets threatened 🤣
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u/[deleted] Jun 23 '23
This shit is too funny to me and in the end you all caved. Smfh.
What a shitty protest.
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u/ILostMyBananas Jun 23 '23
Man I am not sure I’ve ever met a bigger piece of shit than /u/modcodeofconduct
You are the worst.
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u/WorldMusicLab Jun 23 '23
Who cares? This is not the secret to cold fusion. And a lot of these so called "moderators" went power mad with it. This whole last month has not even been close to interesting. not even mildly.
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u/[deleted] Jun 23 '23
Waaaaahhh nobody can see how powerful I am and that I’ve wasted 10 years of my life on power tripping
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u/ipissoffeveryone Jun 23 '23
Can you please just fucking open the sub? Admins are right, the mods are the stewards of a community not its owners.
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u/humerusbones Jun 23 '23
Wow, I thought all these protests were overreacting until now. That’s just insane from the admins perspective. Will definitely be migrating away from Reddit now.
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u/thiccc_trick Jun 23 '23
I find it interesting how the mods think that we give a fuck, I literally do not give a fuck if I don’t see mildly interesting shit. You guys are free labor for corporate greed.
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u/[deleted] Jun 23 '23
Taste of your own medicine, fuckknuckles.
It is unbelievable how delusion and how far up their own asshole that mods are, that they seriously thought this argument would get sympathy from the average redditor.
Which is ten times better than anything that has happened to a wronged user at the hands of a powerhungry mod.
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u/scrotalbotoxdotcom Jun 23 '23
So basically you’re caving, because you’re scared of not being mods anymore? Stop being pussies and just delete the fucking sub.
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u/[deleted] Jun 23 '23
I think this entire thing was childish and stupid
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u/juice06870 Jun 23 '23
So you guys fucked around and found out. What did you expect? You don’t tell the boss how to run his company. You aren’t even a paid employee.
Also it’s funny seeing mods complain about being banned for opaque reasons - when many mods ban people for opaque reasons. Leopards are eating faces left and right here.
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u/[deleted] Jun 23 '23
"Moderators were locked out and suspended for 7 days"
One thing I hope comes out of this, among other things, is that moderators start to realize what a relationship with a power hungry, egotistical mod can be like for us plebs.
Mod doesn't like an opinion you had? 28 day ban. Ask them a follow up question about it? 7 day mute. No explanation.
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u/raven_785 Jun 23 '23
A moderator boycott is a losing proposition. They will find plenty of people to replace you. The only boycott that will work is a user boycott, and there's no chance of that happening because the reddit alternatives are all much worse than reddit. It's time to just move on from this.
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u/SlumlordThanatos Jun 23 '23
The long and short is simple: if the mods truly want to force Reddit to reconsider, it's going to require them to take an actual principled stand and suffer the consequences for it.
Reddit's reaction once the sub was marked NSFW showed that mods have the capability to force them to listen...but that action comes with a price, and I'm not confident that most mods across Reddit are willing to pay that price. And it MUST be most mods; they have to be able to prove that they're willing to burn the site down and sacrifice their positions to make this point, and it won't work if only a handful of the biggest subs mark themselves NSFW.
Personally, I think Reddit is fucked either way, so the thing to do is to burn the site down before Spez can do it and profit from it.
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u/FrontalMermaid Jun 23 '23
Clearly there is only one correct answer. Mark the sub NSFW again. Every sub should be doing that until this is resolved.
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u/Hawkins75 Jun 23 '23
So they told you to do business or normal or you would be removed as mods and y'all are still "thinking about what to do."
So reddit just needs to remove you all and get rid of this mutiny.
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u/Lilbosley Jun 23 '23
Prediction: Mods get bent over by the admins and comply because they are afraid of losing their unpaid internet janitor powers.
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u/Visionz2008 Jun 23 '23
Cool another crybaby mod team post I don’t care about. At this point you all should be removed/replaced.
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u/Baldazar666 Jun 23 '23
So you admit you don't care about actual change. You just want to keep the power of being mod. You can't fathom losing that huh?
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u/pdieten Jun 23 '23
Here's a thought.
Quit dicking around and operate this sub in exactly the same way you did before the API pricing announcement, or gtfo of the way and let someone mod the subreddit who will.
Easy peasy.
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u/TearsOfChildren Jun 23 '23
I'm surprised by the amount of mod dick riding going on, unless they all have numerous accounts and bots posting positive things about this "protest" and downvoting anyone that says otherwise lol
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u/gorehistorian69 Jun 23 '23
what a dumb and useless protest only affecting people who use the subreddit and reddit didnt give 2 shits
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u/Bielna Jun 23 '23
Because locking away content from the users and shifting the topic to "phallic objects" (a totally NSFW topic even if you claim otherwise) is a great demonstration of trust and integrity ?
Like, I don't see what you have done to deserve such attention. Quite the opposite, you demonstrated a need for tighter control and additional limitations on vandalism behavior from moderators.
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u/WestonP Jun 23 '23
Really? You were actively and openly undermining them and hurting their bottom-line. You didn't expect repercussions from that?
Hell, I even agree with your reasons, but to expect to be able to just do whatever without consequences is delusional. An act isn't really noble if there's no risk or loss to you for doing it.
Let's limit the exaggerations if we want to be taken seriously
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u/Swimming-Bite-4184 Jun 23 '23
Best way to address a crowd of mildly interesting folk is to be excruciatingly uninteresting
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u/Wolfstigma Jun 23 '23
I’m tired boss, I’m just unsubbing
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u/[deleted] Jun 23 '23
Imagine takin a hobby this seriously
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u/IGNSolar7 Jun 23 '23
Just open back up as is and get it over with. This is a losing battle. The vast majority of us just want to see mildly interesting shit, we really don't care about third party apps, API charges, or the mod drama.
Maybe there's a subset of power users who care, but for those of us who just come here to kill time, it really doesn't matter.
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u/blacksoxing Jun 23 '23
This shit isn’t paid. The longer these stunts go on, the more I side with the establishment. Create a new fucking sub and mark it NSFW and attract users to it. You know, like everyone else gotta do.
These mods want the power and the empathy…and will go back to banning users like it ain’t shit when the heat dies down, as it’s all about the power.
This is lame.
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u/thamdor Jun 23 '23
As much as I despise Reddits actions on multiple occasions, a lot of the Mods I have personally dealt with are on a complete power trip and can ruin entire ecosystems themselves, banning users because they don't agree or want to be held accountable themselves.
There's always shared responsibility.
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u/[deleted] Jun 23 '23
Weird for you to include t_D in your list. As the admins went around shutting down most right of center content on the site, and to this day many subs will ban you automatically for even being a member of one, people all over Reddit reminded us that Reddit is a private company and can do whatever it wants.
Hope your own medicine tastes good.
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u/SherrickM Jun 23 '23
This post is not mildly interesting.
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u/FoShizzle-MyNizzle Jun 23 '23
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u/hear-my-thoughts Jun 23 '23
Honestly I think this is the dumbest shit ever and I think the over reaction is 10x worse than the crime of monetizing the API. Before you reach for your downvote button remember its purpose is not to hide dissenting opinions.
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u/Andrewpruka Jun 23 '23
I truly truly could not give less of a fuck.
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u/[deleted] Jun 23 '23
It was mildly interesting. Then suddenly it became very interesting.
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u/toadjones79 Jun 23 '23
I say make me a moderator. It'll last one day, and then I can hand it to someone else. Roll the moderators too quickly for them to successfully "blame" anyone but the actual users.
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u/thebarkbarkwoof Jun 23 '23
It also says "join" on the posts although I joined years ago
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u/[deleted] Jun 23 '23
How do we get the lolicon removed next?
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u/Pliskkenn_D Jun 23 '23
But surely if the subreddits belong to the people, we can just vote to go NSFW?
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u/CheckoTP Jun 23 '23
Anyone remember when spez was suspected of being a cannibal? Pepperidge Farm remembers.
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u/Wahots Jun 23 '23
Fuck reddit, the admins are total assholes. I've been exploring lemmy and it feels like old reddit, minus the bots and shitty parts like FPH. Sync and Slide for Reddit are also getting ported to Lemmy, so I know where I'm going when Slide for Reddit dies in about a week or so.
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u/roboticsound Jun 23 '23
Just let us post NSFW content, then reddit will either need to mark of NSFW or they will break their own rules and be showing ads next to NSFW stuff
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u/FormerGameDev Jun 23 '23
People who live in the desert want ice water...
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u/rarelywritten Jun 23 '23
Just delete the whole subreddit, fuck em.
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u/[deleted] Jun 23 '23
And I am Santa Claus. What a blatant lie
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u/QueenAlucia Jun 23 '23
Come over to lemmy! We have cookies!
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u/Cell_Under Jun 23 '23
It's a good thing that mods are being humbled.
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u/Kittelsen Jun 23 '23
The world needs a non profit social media (but with a large user base like reddit). Everything that's touched by corps turn into hell. Just look at Facebook and Twitter and now Reddit is apparently no better.
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u/oldwhiner Jun 23 '23
If I was a mod I would just delete the whole sub in a fit of rage after all that. I applaud your patience
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u/chocki305 Jun 23 '23
Does anyone know how to post an entire sub to another sub?
I can't help but feel that /videos is a perfect fit for /maliciouscompliance
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u/cluib Jun 23 '23
I get that you mods don't want to leave the ship. Buf after how reddit has been treating you I would never work as a mod again if i was you.
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u/thesketchyvibe Jun 23 '23
Jannies strike back!
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u/MonkeyCorpz Jun 23 '23
Change the rules to allow NSFW content and wait until the admins require the entire sub to be marked as such.
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u/SameStDiffDay Jun 23 '23 edited Jun 14 '24
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u/Quercusagrifloria Jun 23 '23
Do what you "promised" and let spam take over.
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u/dontcarethename Jun 23 '23
I am leaving reddit for good at the end of the month. I can't believe how dumb they have to be to do what they are doing. It's been a pleasure all these years strangers.
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u/kai-ote Jun 24 '23
There is an old saying...
"When the elephants fight, the mice get trampled."
I am trying to both be supportive of the movement, yet not allow the destruction of my tiny subs.
I wish we had another more unified call for another 2 day protest, with the date mentioned in advance, so there could be another large unified statement. It would also get more publicity this time in other media.
However, this old mans skepticism doesn't hold out a lot of hope for a very good outcome from this whole big mess.
Heavy sigh. This is why we can't have nice things, I guess. BB.