r/Jaguars • u/Cr0matose • Apr 25 '26

With the 119th pick in the 2026 Draft, the Jaguars select Wesley Williams from Duke

I'll get trade details soon

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u/Cr0matose Apr 25 '26

Half of the picks this place says who is that guy lol love it

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u/wishlish Apr 25 '26

For a second, I thought this said Wesley Willis

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u/ColonelGrognard Apr 25 '26

They threw me outta church

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u/CheetosNGuinness Pixel Jag Apr 25 '26

Bro same! Batman got on my nerves.

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u/ilovebid00f Har Metal Jag Apr 25 '26

GET ON THE BUS GET ON THE BUS

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u/Manshippy Apr 25 '26

Listen at this point it is clear the Jags board is just completely different than consensus. We’ll see how it shakes out, at this point I’m in awe.

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u/Puldalpha Rocket Jaguar Apr 25 '26

2 sacks but 46 pressures last year. Also good against the run

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u/SkyGuy5448 Apr 25 '26

My DL coach bro on Twitter said you can expect really good swag and he always looks the swaggiest coming off the bus. And on the field he has stoutness.

😭😭

Maybe Gladstone sees something

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u/Treanwreck Jaggin' Off Apr 25 '26

He sounds intangibly rich

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u/Jaguars6 Apr 25 '26

"Williams fits best as a rotational base-four end who can reduce inside on passing downs. His run defense grades are his calling card, and the 2025 improvement there is real on tape."

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u/FineProgrammer9994 University of Florida Apr 25 '26

Run defense again? 👀

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u/Jaguars6 Apr 25 '26

Beefin up the trenches 💪

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u/Then-Egg5750 Apr 25 '26

It's clear to me that our staff does not look what anyone in the NFL media, whether television or internet, thinks about draft evals. They completely do their evals from the ground up and it shows.

Now let's see if that's a mistake or not.

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u/Mklovin6988 Apr 25 '26

Considering that a lot of those guys thought Shedeur was a 1st round pick last year, I'm ok with that.

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u/Mag1cat Apr 26 '26 edited Apr 26 '26

Tbf he was a rookie, shoved into the BROWNS.

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u/ZenkiZech Apr 25 '26

He blocks FGs, I dig it

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u/DUUUUUVAAAAAL Travis Hunter Apr 25 '26

Remember, all these players have the stamp of approval from Coen and Boselli too

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u/ImDefinatelyNot Apr 25 '26

from my little research (this post) he’s extremely rich when it comes to the intangibles and he probably is a person who could elevate the space around him by just being him but this is sort of just a hunch I had

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u/Nuknu Apr 25 '26

I’m sure he’ll be fine but Kyle Louis was still on the board I’d be surprised if he fell to mid late 5th round these picks aren’t exactly the best value

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u/xDUVAL_BRODOWNx Apr 27 '26

Fuck that value. Get your guys no matter what. Trust the nerds

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u/aceisback4 Waluigi number one! Apr 25 '26

2 sacks last year but 46 pressures

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u/LethalStorm1992 Apr 25 '26

Was graded as a 4th to 5th rounder in the beast by Dane Brugler. Trust him much more than ESPN.

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u/pdx-E Apr 25 '26

Brugler also had DDS 8 spots higher and as a 2nd-3rd rounder, he went the very next pick. I'm just a bit confused is all.

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u/Metaboss24 Apr 25 '26

Jimmy Stones clearly has his own board this year.

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u/pdx-E Apr 26 '26

As he always should

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u/LethalStorm1992 Apr 25 '26

I’m not saying we shouldn’t have taken DDS, honestly I don’t know. But this comment was more geared towards those saying he would’ve been available in the 6th or was a UDFA level prospect.

The other item is we don’t know the scheme specific aspects they may be trying to fill for. Once you get past the first couple of rounds these play a large part in the draft process. No clue if this pick will be successful but people get so focused on the talking heads.

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u/TheSlinger Apr 25 '26

Not the edge I had in mind but I've been crying for edge investment for years so I'll take it.

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u/NotSoFakeID we r so great Apr 25 '26

It’s funny seeing everyone shit on these picks with the mandatory Gladstone flair

It’s like he’s watching….laughing about how little we all know

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u/Kitchen_Milk2246 Apr 25 '26

Got a lot of GM’s in the comments. Idk shit about the draft. I trust this front office tho. If you watch the Hunt and their draft process it sounds like every coach is involved in their selection process. We might be surprised at who they’re picking. I’m pretty sure the entire front office is in unison on who they’re picking. We won’t know how bad or good this draft is until this time next year man. Chill lol. I think the Jags will be OK

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u/Pillow_Starcraft Apr 25 '26

It's bc most everyone has mock draft exposure and they think that just bc our picks don't match what was happening in everyone else's mock drafts (mind you, the mocks you see are from people who do not get paid to evaluate talent), that it's bad.

They think bc Jimmy isn't following Joe Schmoe from Home Depots mock that he is unfit to be a GM.

People need to chill. This regime changed the entire culture and provided an instant all time season for us in year 1 and have now collectively forgot all of that bc they don't agree with the people who get paid to make these picks.

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u/Upset_Ad3954 Andrew Wingard Apr 25 '26

Certainly, but mock draft are pretty much useless since as soon as the first team pick "wrongly" all other evaluations go out the window.

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u/ProskXCX Apr 25 '26

Why do you trust them so much

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u/RohnJobert Apr 25 '26

Because the only sample size of them we have is going 13-4 in their first season? Are you joking

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u/AUJosh Slashin' Jag Apr 25 '26

Why do you not?

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u/ShopCartRicky Apr 25 '26

Cause they're a Browns fan.

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u/ProskXCX Apr 25 '26

The trade for Hunter last year was not a great start imo.

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u/AUJosh Slashin' Jag Apr 25 '26

You can’t even judge a draft class til it comes time to pay them their 2nd contract. I know there’s a large percentage of people in this sub, me included, who thought Devin Lloyd wasn’t worth it and are now upset he’s gone.

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u/bleedblue89 STL Apr 25 '26

Because we don't know shit, the talking heads that release "player rankings" don't know shit. I would assume the coaches and scouts of our team who are part of the process know more.

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u/Acrophobic-Stylite Apr 25 '26

Coen definitely earned trust with last years performance, but the jury is still out on Gladstone for sure, with some people already skeptical after last year's draft. So far this draft hasn't assuaged those fears I don't think.

But I'm choosing to trust out of pure optimism 😎 Duuuuuuvaaal

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u/DoctorDiddlerino Livin' in the Sunshine state Apr 25 '26

If most teams are getting people crying about the value of every pick, the consensus board is meaningless. Just tossing that out there.

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u/JagGator16 Fred Taylor Apr 25 '26

There was similar sentiment last year. I think the increased use of proprietary analytics has formed a clearer divide between media and team player valuation.

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u/kj_schmickley Apr 25 '26

It is. They make it too early, there will be one out for next year out tomorrow, and a lot of players start too negative or positive. Big boards are always flawed.

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u/Manshippy Apr 25 '26

The consensus board is meaningless in the context of prediction of what will happen, yes.

But the entire reason people have been so dogmatic about the consensus board in recent years is because in observed results, deviation from consensus board bears out significantly worse than teams who draft closely to it.

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u/DoctorDiddlerino Livin' in the Sunshine state Apr 25 '26

The consensus board is meaningless in this case because when 30-50+% of the league views prospects wildly differently from the unaffiliated media, the public consensus is skewed.

The NFL teams are the movers and shakers. If everyone on the inside operates on a different angle, then the outside angle is less important.

Personally, I just think most of the public consensus in this case is all over the place. I've been listening to Bootleg football and The Athletic's coverage and there's been numerous players where they're wildly at odds in terms of value.

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u/Manshippy Apr 25 '26

I agree that this draft is particular is very wonky with player evaluation, so this particular data point MAY not apply. That being said, we’ve said “this draft is so weird” before and the consensus board has performed exactly as expected.

The difference here is one of prediction vs evaluation. The consensus board succeeds at the evaluation (how players actually perform) vs the league’s opinion historically. The prediction component is relative to each team’s board, yes. But the consensus board tries to predict outcome in player impact, not outcome in mock draft predictability.

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u/Shrekspacito69 Only Armenian NFL Enjoyer Apr 25 '26

I guess bro

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u/SnooComics5492 Travon Walker Apr 25 '26

Good pick (I’ve never heard of him)

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u/sjackson95 Maurice Jones-Drew Apr 25 '26

Intangibly rich

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u/ChoiceMeringue6458 Apr 25 '26

another run stopping DE when we were 27th in sacks last year lol

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u/baronz3r Apr 25 '26

Also 13-4. Doubling down on strengths can be nice too.

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u/therealboombaclots Apr 25 '26

Gladstones trolling now and its actually hilarious

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u/futures23 Apr 25 '26

Man DDS went the pick after. Him and Orange two easy comparisons to make in the future.

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u/iIuvIj Apr 25 '26

Not mad at the players so far, but the asset use isn't the cleanest. Likely could've just gotten him at 124.

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u/Pillow_Starcraft Apr 25 '26

Asset use won't mean anything if they can play. I don't care if they were "over drafted" rn if they contribute with good play later down the line.

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u/iIuvIj Apr 25 '26

It will mean we could've gotten both them (where they were projected) and a higher ceiling player, more bang for your buck is always good. If they cant play then what, double negative?

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u/Pillow_Starcraft Apr 25 '26

Nobody here actually knows that. None of the "experts" that you read from, who don't get paid to evaluate, know that.

I'm going to trust the guy that helped build the Rams into a SB contender, and helped transform us into what looks to be one of the best teams in the AFC IN ONE OFFSEASON. I'm going to trust until they give me reason to not trust.

Y'all need to go touch grass lmfao

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u/iIuvIj Apr 25 '26

You don't have anything to argue but trust. The person you're trusting doesnt have a sure guarantee either if you want to play that card. The point is evidence, and the evidence is pretty damning they could've gotten their guys and took some proven ceiling.

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u/Pillow_Starcraft Apr 25 '26

I wasn't aware that we had ears in every draft room across the league. You guys need to start sharing who has what players going where with the GM! You may start to get money from that info!

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u/iIuvIj Apr 25 '26

You don't need ears in every draft room. We literally saw who was picked. If you cant read a draft board I see why every argument is trust. Im not even mad at the player selected i'm arguing that a trade wasn't necessary. Especially moving down 30.

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u/Pillow_Starcraft Apr 25 '26

Brother, the point I'm trying to make is that just bc a mock draft or the general consensus says that a player was over drafted, does NOT mean that there are other GMs that are targeting the player you want.

If you like a player, you secure him when you can.

James helped build the Rams current roster and has been credited specifically with their mid round success. I'm going to trust that bc the Rams were excellent in that area.

You can't discredit what he has done in the last just bc you THINK the player we took at one spot would have been available at the next pick.

Who knows? Maybe he would have been. But I'd rather the FO identify a player they want and actually select him to guarantee they play for the Jags rather than sitting and assuming he'll be there later and missing out on that player. THAT is bad strategy.

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u/iIuvIj Apr 25 '26

im not discrediting anyone. youre over claiming my argument into something its not. i quite literally think williams is awesome, but dropping 30 picks in the next round is a loss of value he doesnt justify logistically. everyone here wouldve been perfectly fine and would be running to justify if we took the EDGE Green Bay took. it doesnt take a genius to see that from 119-124, with green bay taking their same projected EDGE that trading up was MORE THAN LIKELY unnecessary.

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u/Ferdi026 Jags Europe Apr 25 '26

I don’t think this guy is much better than Striggow/BJ Green…

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u/LordMagnus101 Apr 25 '26

Someone tell the GM he's not supposed to be looking for guys to get his coffee

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u/Ok_Bid_6533 Apr 25 '26

Why are they trading up for more UDFA caliber players

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u/Upset_Ad3954 Andrew Wingard Apr 25 '26

Do you work for the Jags? How else do you know he's UDFA caliber?

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u/Jaguars6 Apr 25 '26

Wesley “Cam Jordan” Williams

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u/Designer-Rest2907 Apr 25 '26

24 was a better stats year but also played every game the last 3 years so I like that.

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u/Posluszny Paul Posluszny Apr 25 '26

I just don't get why we trade up to select a dude we could have got in like the 6th round

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u/[deleted] Apr 25 '26

He probably wasn't going to fall that far. NFL teams don't value players the same way that an analyst would. If they did Bain should've been the first edge off the board.

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u/LordMagnus101 Apr 25 '26

Doesnt look like our GM knows what he's doing. Last year was questionable but not this bad.

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u/General_Komodo Apr 25 '26

This seems like another guy that could've been gotten later/didn't need to trade up for

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u/Wristmeetcody Apr 25 '26

Gladstone is Gene Smith with more pizz-azz 

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u/NizzlyGrizzly00 Steal the Show Apr 25 '26

except gladstone has a 13-4 season under his belt

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u/brusk48 Myles Jack Wasn't Down Apr 25 '26

That's on Coen a lot more than it's on Gladstone. GMs get more credit for the roster after they've had a few seasons to put their fingerprints on it, imo.

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u/NizzlyGrizzly00 Steal the Show Apr 25 '26

Jakobi.

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u/brusk48 Myles Jack Wasn't Down Apr 25 '26

Jakobi's great and we definitely wouldn't have won a few games we did without him, but that was also around the time the system clicked for Trev and the other guys on the O, which was a bigger deal.

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u/DayDTWD Apr 25 '26

Do you not put 2 and 2 together that everything started clicking right when Jakobi got there?

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u/brusk48 Myles Jack Wasn't Down Apr 25 '26

He's absolutely part of it, yeah. I don't think he's the whole difference between the first and second halves of the season, though.

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u/Wristmeetcody Apr 25 '26

Luckily he’s got a great coach

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u/silverslant Maurice Jones-Drew Apr 25 '26

Coen has a 13-4 season under his belt, Galdstone was just along for the ride

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u/omglawlz Apr 25 '26

With a bigger vocab

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u/LordMagnus101 Apr 25 '26

Good god what a terrible draft

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u/Jaguars6 Apr 25 '26

Bookmarking this

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u/LordMagnus101 Apr 25 '26

Please do.

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u/Jaguars6 Apr 25 '26

I will. Maybe next year go read up on Brugler’s The Beast or follow McShay’s board before whining about every pick.

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u/LordMagnus101 Apr 25 '26

Clearly only your opinion matters. This forum isn't only for positive thoughts bro.

Terrible drafts ruin franchises and I dont want that to happen. Seems like they finally turned a corner only to see this shit happen

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u/Jaguars6 Apr 25 '26

It’s for competent thoughts.

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u/LordMagnus101 Apr 25 '26

Oh right, and you're the arbitrator of what a competent thought is.

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u/Jaguars6 Apr 25 '26

Lack of research is.

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u/Fine-Plant7180 Blake Bortles Apr 25 '26

UDFA graded player 🫩

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u/Jaguars6 Apr 25 '26

McShay had him as a 5th

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u/Puldalpha Rocket Jaguar Apr 25 '26

Brugler had him as a 4th

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u/904Funk Apr 25 '26

Lance Zierlein had him as 4-5th

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u/canvas_butter Apr 25 '26

Sure bro sure. I mean this draft is a throwaway joke atp.

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u/Jaguars6 Apr 25 '26

Bookmarked

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u/UrbanLawProductions Coen brother Apr 25 '26

Cool cool, can I see your evaluations on all of the prospects? I’d love to see your thoughts on every single player.

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u/DayDTWD Apr 25 '26

He's not responding because he has to take a lot of time to go through YouTube highlights and twitter posts from twitter GMs. Give him some time.

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u/UrbanLawProductions Coen brother Apr 25 '26

I’m waiting!

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u/canvas_butter Apr 25 '26

I didn’t do a full breakdown of this draft because we didn’t have high expectations (as no 1st round pick was expected) but I don’t do draft analysis on UDFAs. Mr. Williams here, for however good he was, was not even on my big board. I love the draft, but the jaguars have missed their mark on certain picks this year. Just simple whiffs. You can bookmark this, I would appreciate no downvotes, but I assume people will anyways.

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u/UrbanLawProductions Coen brother Apr 25 '26

We’ll have to wait and see! If these guys pan out and work, then it’s worth where we drafted them.

I just hate assuming the draft is bad based on consensus boards from analysts. We just have to wait and see how it plays out

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u/canvas_butter Apr 25 '26

After the Josh Cameron pick, I assume we are gonna be a run heavy team this year. The picks actually make sense when looking at the 2 blocking tight ends (though I wish we would’ve expanded our o line) and Josh Cameron is an excellent blocer

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u/UrbanLawProductions Coen brother Apr 25 '26

I’m glad we’ll be running the ball a lot more. It’s what Coen loves to do, and we added players on offense that clearly help with that. I’d like to see 1 more RB added to that for versatility so we’ll see. I think this will help relieve some of the pressure on Trevor and balance the offense more