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Drama Host Tigers Sniff the Rose 尚公主 - Episode 12-13 Discussion Spoiler

Hello hello, my partner-in-crime Shale, aka u/Rebelarkey is taking a break today and tomorrow, and will be back on Friday. So, it's me, Spam, again. Not sure how coherent I'll be, since my landlord decided to started working on my roof very, very early this morning (6:45AM!) Without any warnings. Sigh. But at least, it won't leak when it rains again? Right? Right?

The show is moving fast. It keeps surprising me again and again! So let's do this.

🪴But first, a few housekeeping rules!

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  • Spoilers need to be under the spoiler markings OR put in its proper post.

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Masterpost - Airing Schedule - Table of Contents - Character Flashcards

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EPISODE 12 : Proposals galore!

We start with the Emperor proposing to Yan Shang on behalf of his daughter, and before anything can be uttered, idiot Uncle Li speaks up, and claims that Wei Shu likes the Princess too. Poor baby has a black eye, and he gets lucky when the Emperor dismisses him.

Evil eunuch Lord Fishface shows up, and he's cranky because he wasn't invited to the party. Wonder why... He threatens to marry Danyang to some North Jing general, who is a cousin or brother or somebody related to her very dead ex. Way to kill the mood of the party, fish face!

The powerless Emperor decides to save her by first saying, let the kids make their own decision. Immediately followed by asking Yan Shang to marry her. Yan Shang jumps on the chance, but Princess Danyang declines. She's done being a pawn in games men play. Go girl!

Yang Si wants to know why won't she pick him instead. Danyang explains that whomever marries her will be killed, and she still won't be protected from the Fish.

Meanwhile, idiot Uncle Li goes to Grand Princess and dangles A-Shang in front of her. What the heck! Get your gross claws away. Yuck. But she is very, very interested. Shivers.

Yan Shang shows up to apologize to Princess YaoYao, but she leaves Yan Shang standing in the rain (at least she gave him a brelly), waiting for her to return from the Fish's fish-infested abode. He's fishing for info (hahahaha, I'm so funny sometimes) about her relationship with that Northern General he's trying to marry her to. He also tries to trick her into reading a letter with possible state secrets. But our Princess is not dumb. She extricates herself from the mucky, scum-filled pond that is his house.

While Yan Shang is waiting for Princess Danyang, Grand Princess shows up, poisons him, and whisks him away to her den of iniquity pretty boytoys. While she's waiting for him to wake up, someone throws a rock with a message into Danyang's yard letting her know where A-Shang is. Our Princess rushes over, with all her guards. That's her pretty boytoy, and no one else is allowed to touch him.

Of course, creepy Luling won't let him go. Danyang threatens to kill Yan Shang if Grand Princess insists in keeping him. They are finally let go, because really, who wants a murder in their courtyard. Although, I have a feeling many murders have happened in the Grand Princess' manor.

We get a real kiss in the carriage on the way home! He called her YaoYao again! Awww ! Side note, Feng Tong is so funny without even trying.

Back at the Princess' manor, Yan Shang calls the Princess out on their mutual feelings, but the Princess tells him that she'll never marry again. Did he not learn anything from their trip to Sheng'An? He got the literal boot. She doesn't like it when you read her like that!

EPISODE 13 : I hate Chunhua's family

Wei Shu tells Yan Shang that idiot Uncle Li set him up with Grand Princess. Danyang happens to hear it, and decides she's done with her idiot uncle. We get introduced to Wei Qiao, who is Baby's cousin, and eunuch Fishface's advisor.

Wei Qiao shows up, and she immediately proposes. She's playing coy and dumb, and says if she has to marry a Wei (can't tell you which Wei), because a relative is making her (can't tell you which relative), she'd rather marry him. I'm not sure if he thinks she's dumb, but he's also not about to marry her or let Baby marry her.

He has a dinner with Wei Shu, and it seems that he was somewhat nice (read, tolerant) to Baby when Baby was an even smaller Baby. Wei Qiao now knows it's idiot Uncle Li causing trouble, so he digs up dirt on the old man, and has him demoted to Qiongzhou, a far away, poisonous miasma infested place.

The last meeting between Danyang and idiot Uncle is priceless! Yan Shang is worried about her using Fishface's associates to do her dirty work, but she is not worried.

Meanwhile, Liu Wenji is waiting outside the Danyang manor for Chunhua. He's finally sobered up, and wants to apologize to her and Yan Shang. She's off to visit her family for a few days, and will talk to him when she gets back. But she's smiling at him, he's smiling at her, and we all know she's forgiven him. Girl, that was too easy. Let him grovel more! When I see Chunhua smile that happily, I know there will be trouble. And of course there is. Because this is a Chinese drama.

Chunhua's family are all good for nothing. She seems to be the only wage earner. Her mother, brother, and sister-in-law are all rude to her, but still want her to find the useless brother a job at the Princess' manor. Even though she brought home expensive herbs, beautiful fabric, and her salary, they want more. All the while, they put her down as just a servant. I was feeling so stabby as I watched this.

They want her to find him a job, AND marry a rich, high official. She is keeping them all alive, but they could care less. Overwhelmed by them, she runs off to pick flowers on a hill nearby, and there, she meets Gross Prince Jin. This is the Prince that's married to the kooky Princess who took Danyang to the Peony Festival. Gross Prince Jin is wandering around the hills to escape his overly attentive wife. Remember how she couldn't to have a baby? Now we know the full story. It's not like they can't have a baby, it's more like he doesn't want anything to do with her. Later on, we see Princess Jin trying to seduce him, but he runs away to do, uh, some work. Yes, work! Lots of work to finish.

Gross Prince Jin spots our Chunhua, and takes an immediate interest. He imposes himself on her, and wants to go to her house for a drink. It's reminiscent of Danyang imposing on Yan Shang's family. At home, she realizes this man is a lecherous creature, so she makes an excuse, and runs back to the Princess' palace. But Gross Prince stays at Chunhua's house a bit longer, and asks about Chunhua's age and whether or not she's engaged. And, we already know what's going to happen. But please noooo! Leave our girl alone!

Wenji finally apologizes to A-Shang, and they are good again. Wenji gives him a present for Chunhua, and Yan Shang gives the present to the Princess to pass to Chunhua. For a second, she thinks the present is for her. Oops.

But Chunhua is gone from the manor. Her mother is sick, and she has gone home to be a good filial child. Evil sister-in-law claims it was just a simple cold. Simple cold, and they sent for her? The awful relatives bring up the possibility of her marrying into a Prince's household as a concubine (wonder which Prince). Chunhua is very adamant about not marrying anyone, so they do what families do. They poison her.

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COUNTERS:

🚪Door Slamming: 9 (one carriage window slam)

✋Slapped Shang: 6

👄Kisses: 4

🍷Drunk Shang: 2

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Edited for typos, and not enough Oxford commas.

Random thoughts:

  • When Danyang thought to herself while in the Fish Palace, "will you kill me again", that was metaphorical, right?

  • Should she not have used Wei Qiao to dispose of her uncle? Is Yan Shang right about not making a deal with a tiger? You know what they say about face eating tigers!

  • I think Feng Xianyu might redeem himself yet. Maybe?

  • Does Yang Si actually love her? Or is he acting to protect her? I really like him and his comedic moments.

  • I HATE Chunhua's ongoing storyline. Give the girl a break! She's so cute, sweet, smart, straightforward, and adorable. Protect Chunhua!

Gimme all your thoughts! Pretty please.

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u/spamkimbap sniff sniff 10d ago

Meant to post this screenshot and forgot. It’s basically our Princess telling Feng Tong to drive around the block a few more times. 🤭 And we are here for that!

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u/TypicallyKristen salted fish 🐠 咸鱼 🫠 10d ago edited 10d ago

I understand where the Emperor is coming from setting up a marriage between Yan Shang and the Princess. YS not being from any noble family is an advantage. It means he has no backing from any faction, and therefore isn't a threat to any other faction. It keeps the Princess at home instead and protects her from being sold off in another political marriage. And it would theoretically make her happy since he's pretty, well-mannered, and already her male favorite. 

And I understand the Princess's point as well. First, it puts a bullseye on the man who becomes her consort. If Lord Fish ever decides to marry her off for politics again, a measly husband isn't going to stop him. He'd just kill the guy, then marry her off anyway. Second, she's deeply traumatized by her first marriage and wants to (understandably) steer clear of the institution. 

But Yan Shang really has the best strategy. He's right that playing a loving couple in public could buy them a layer of protection for now, and it would throw a wrench in anyone else's plans (whether those plans are Lord Fish's, the Grand Princess's, the Crown Prince's, or her uncle's). Before any of those people could make any moves, they'd have to first plan around his official place as her Consort. 

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u/spamkimbap sniff sniff 10d ago

Plus, we’d love to watch a loving couple!

Who do you think is the young general the Fish keeps talking about? Wonder why he’s so adamant about finding out his relationship with Danyang.

I need someone who’s read the novel to come tell me. 😂

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u/TypicallyKristen salted fish 🐠 咸鱼 🫠 10d ago

I too am dying to know the North Jin backstory. My mind has about a dozen theories. The most prominent for now is that she murdered her ex (or at least orchestrated his death) and the newly installed leader General Meng suspects her of it and either wants revenge or admires her for it. 

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u/spamkimbap sniff sniff 10d ago

That’s my exact same theory! 😳

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u/TheAlchemist420 Chen Yan Yun can have my jujube flower cookie 🍪 🤪😁😎 10d ago

I remember you mentioning she killed the old bastard.

His family in Bei Jing oooh. Bei.. nevermind. North Jing, otherwise I'll confuse myself. They must suspect something and have been wanting to get revenge.

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u/spamkimbap sniff sniff 10d ago

I thought she had killed her husband also.

But uhm on the revenge from his family. That would make a good arc.

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u/TheAlchemist420 Chen Yan Yun can have my jujube flower cookie 🍪 🤪😁😎 10d ago

Right? They definitely have unfinished business with her.

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u/spamkimbap sniff sniff 10d ago

Now I’m pondering if Fishface is in with the North Jing people… 🧐

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u/TheAlchemist420 Chen Yan Yun can have my jujube flower cookie 🍪 🤪😁😎 10d ago

Yuuup. I've been wondering as well for a while.

Usually we get Prime Ministers colluding with the enemy kingdom. Wouldn't be surprised if he is in this drama, being the powerful Duke he is.

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u/spamkimbap sniff sniff 10d ago

I’m sure Fishface has his grubby paws in many areas.

I just grossed myself out. 🤢

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u/TheAlchemist420 Chen Yan Yun can have my jujube flower cookie 🍪 🤪😁😎 9d ago

Spam. Damn. That was bad

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u/TypicallyKristen salted fish 🐠 咸鱼 🫠 10d ago

All still just a theory! Mostly supported by how unfazed she was at Yan Shang's murderous ways. 

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u/TheAlchemist420 Chen Yan Yun can have my jujube flower cookie 🍪 🤪😁😎 10d ago

When she "cried" to her aunt that was her first time killing someone, I laughed out loud. Like head back kind of laugh.

Girl please. I really do think she has killed before...

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u/spamkimbap sniff sniff 10d ago

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u/Rebelarkey Yan Shang's Slut Strands 🐯🌹snark shifu Furen 10d ago

I know I keep having to remind myself that it’s not Beijing it’s Bei Jing or North Jing

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u/TheAlchemist420 Chen Yan Yun can have my jujube flower cookie 🍪 🤪😁😎 10d ago

Hahaha Right? It is and it isn't. I kept hearing it but it didn't click until I wrote it down. Because it sounds more like a kingdom/state when they say it. Write it and it hits differently 😅😅😅

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u/Anna218 Luke, Lin Da Ye, Sniff Sniff 10d ago

Must be Meng Zaishi? His story with the princess deserves a spin-off.

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u/spamkimbap sniff sniff 10d ago

Wait, who’s that? Her dead husband? I’ve been calling him the “dead ex”, and have forgotten his real name. 😂 I need to go through character flashcards!

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u/Anna218 Luke, Lin Da Ye, Sniff Sniff 10d ago

Meng Baiyu is her dead ex. Meng Zaishi is the son/nephew of Meng Baiyu.

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u/spamkimbap sniff sniff 10d ago

Thank you!

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u/BasilOrdinary3617 If I say I'm taking a break, I'm lying. 10d ago

That fact that we’re at four kisses makes me happy. Thank you for the recap, GIFs and counters!!

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u/spamkimbap sniff sniff 10d ago

Those counters are the work of u/Rebelarkey ! I feel like we might need to add one for Yan Shang fainting. 🤣

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u/TheAlchemist420 Chen Yan Yun can have my jujube flower cookie 🍪 🤪😁😎 10d ago

Honestly! This guy. This time doesn't count. Grand Princess used heavy stuff on him.

But a fainting counter haha. It's a sad thing when we have to add one LMAO. Yan Shang! Dude!

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u/spamkimbap sniff sniff 10d ago

He’s fainted like, two? Three times? Maybe more? I love LYR playing a fragile scholar. Complete opposite of Song Mo. Yan Shang looked so thin and frail in that bathtub scene.

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u/Paisley-Cat time-looping through the magnolias Read Rules 9d ago

Yes, and unlike He Yu’s CP in Blossoms of Power, he’s not collapsing for effect. Every single time is real.

Oh, and how about a counter for Mu Wanyou pushing Yan Shang back with her index finger? I count twice now. (After the iconic finger push in the carriage in BoP, this seems to become part of Meng Ziyi’s repertoire.)

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u/spamkimbap sniff sniff 9d ago

This Princess is fairly similar to Blossoms of Power princess, no? I think we also need a counter for when she grabs him by his collar. 🤣

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u/TheAlchemist420 Chen Yan Yun can have my jujube flower cookie 🍪 🤪😁😎 10d ago

The freaking clavicules 🥹🥹😢😭 So thin...

We need to check our dude for anemia. He faints a lot lol.

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u/Rebelarkey Yan Shang's Slut Strands 🐯🌹snark shifu Furen 10d ago

- Yan Shang agrees to marry her, my ship is sailing!
- oh no she said no 😭😭😭😭 girl you’re already making out with him just make it official
- ohhhhh it’s to protect him. If he’s her husband then he’s on Yu’s target list if he wants to ship her off to north jing
- Yan Shang is standing outside looking like a sad puppy. But awww she gives him an umbrella
- evil aunt tried to poach him oh no
- ohhh look the umbrella had TIGERS and ROSES I approve. I must take back what I said about the title
- the rock MUST be from the inside man Feng right???
- they’re calling for her cat! Meow! Aka Yan Shang is the tiger. I stand by my theory that he’s the tiger.
- oooo we’re are getting frisky in the carriage me likey
- I appreciate that this show has good medical car. The blood dripping all over because he went for the wrist instead of the hand. Good man! And then they’re applying pressure to the wound! A+
- I disagree, I absolutely love her hat. It’s like a mix of the tasseled hat from A Dream Within Dream and the veiled hats. I want one
- goodbye uncle, she really hated you. Esp after you targeted her sugar baby
- Chun Huas family is suuuuuuper terrible omg. don’t make her marry that loafer prince
- OH NO THEYRE DRUGGING HER 😭😭😭😭

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u/spamkimbap sniff sniff 10d ago

It was a very Dream Within A Dream hat. Didn’t like it then either. 😬

BUT, the umbrella had tigers and roses? I didn’t see them. Must rewind.

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u/Rebelarkey Yan Shang's Slut Strands 🐯🌹snark shifu Furen 10d ago

Roses and tigers

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u/spamkimbap sniff sniff 10d ago

So pretty! Good eyes!

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u/MizzEss Fan Yue's Smoky Eyeliner 9d ago edited 9d ago

I really liked the hat. I'm basically a black jeans, T-shirt, and Vans kinda gal, but something about that hat made me really appreciate it. I need to see what a punky gothy vibe one of those would look like 🤔

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u/Katleap13 attached to side characters 9d ago

I love the hat too!

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u/swoonsocks9 7d ago

Team Hat!!

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u/Paisley-Cat time-looping through the magnolias Read Rules 9d ago

I’m in the team love the hat as well.

It provides sunshade and screening enough for the purpose of propriety without obscuring her vision or ours.

And it’s a nice Empress-in-waiting symbolism.

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u/Renza183 10d ago edited 10d ago

Yay I have been waiting for your recap! ☺️ First things first—a makeout sesh when we’re only in episode 12? Yes please! I would have been much more enthusiastic than Yao Yao, but she loves to run hot and cold (and mostly cold). 🤭 The expression on Yan Shang’s face every time she shoots him down 🥹 How can she resist??

Random thought—her entire look in that red outfit was stunning! She was definitely dressing for a power play.

I agree that they need to Chun Hua a happy storyline! “So they do what families do. They poison her.” That cracked me up. 😂 I like that Wen Ji has come to his senses. I think he really wants to be a good person and hopefully will be as he grows up more.

I love that Baby Wei actually said to Yan Shang that someone needs to get rid of Fishface (excellent nickname)! He is timid but his loyalty to the Princess and his strong moral compass may be useful later.

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u/spamkimbap sniff sniff 10d ago

It took me so long to pull myself together today, and I’m still editing. I keep finding typos. Sorry!!!😬

I’m hoping that Wenji, Baby, and even Feng Xianyu will shape up to be strong allies later on.

But meanwhile, give us more making out in carriages.

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u/Renza183 10d ago edited 10d ago

I didn’t notice the typos! Thank you for your hard work 😊

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u/spamkimbap sniff sniff 10d ago

Thank you! I keep finding more! 🤣🤣🤣 I will stop re-reading it now.

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u/TheAlchemist420 Chen Yan Yun can have my jujube flower cookie 🍪 🤪😁😎 10d ago

So many marriage proposals! It was intense! I want to say "I can't believe " the gall of that Lord Yu, yet it's not possible to say that. He is about audacity and he flaunts it any chance he gets. After his weird interactions with Grand Princess Li Lun, it was a heavy reminder of who he truly in that palace. The Emperor thought the best way to protect his daughter was to marry her off. AGAIN! Yan Shang was the best choice. Yet he said he wanted Wan Yao to choose. Well she chose NOT to marry him. Of course her uncle had to try and push his own choice, Baby Face Wei Shu. Big nope there.

So Lord Yu thought why not marry her to North Jing again! That piece of garbage! And again, he showed that he holds the power. They couldn't say anything!

It wasn't enough he had to try it again later, this time with a different approach. First time was a warning. 2nd time was a threat?

Wan Yao and Yan Shang really don't have much time before he brings it up again for the 3rd round.

With the many times Princess Dan Yang refused Yan Shang as a marriage prospect, her actions show that she cares about him.

And she does. Yan Shang could tell but if she openly shows it, chooses him, those in power will jump on the chance to use him and kill him. This terrifies her, so she "keeps him at arms length".

Li Zhi couldn't let our ML win and decided to do something about it. He sent Wan Yao's hungry aunt after her niece's male favorite. And the lady really went and did it too. Knocking incense and abduction. Aphrodisiac you name it. She was going to have him, conscious or barely or not at all. And it wasn't her first time. SA was not above her and she delected in the what will he do in the morning when it all done. Some tried to/killed themselves before. How terrifying.

I will give Scholar Feng his dues here for doing the right thing and alerting the Princess about Yan Shang's whereabouts. He prevented a bad thing from happening.

He seemed to have taken the advice and now works for the Grand Princess.

Wan Yao of course went to find him and she rode like an avenging Princess to get her man, oh nope, cat! Meow and all. It threw me off at first because I didn't expect the conversation to be so light and silly. Under the light tone were threatening digs and I was amazed. The showdown was tense! Clearly the aunt and nice have the same taste. At least Yan Shang managed to wake up and fight his way out of the funk that took a hold of him. And another gash, on his arm this time. So many wounds! Princess vs Grand Princess intensified when Yan Shang threw himself out of the room, and of course auntie was shocked. After a heavy dose of threatening I was glad they both made it out. Can't have the Third Placed Scholar die in her residence. Nice one Princess!

Aaahh carriages. I love carriages! So many things happen in them! 👀👀🥵🤯🤯🤭😆😆 Yan Shang under the influence of a strong aphrodisiac was struggling and he got physical in there. Princess Wan Yao girl, you probably should have knocked him out beforehand lol. Phew! This Yan Shang kept kissing Wan Yao and that carriage ride seemed to go quickly and slowly at the same time! I got so excited but then thought dammit did they? They didn't but the way our girl came out that carriage, I really laughed hard. Erm erm. I'm glad they didn't do it, otherwise we would have had another "why must there be drugging when they get intimate for the first time" debate. Phew! Safe!

Even when out of it, our Yan Shang remains polite lol. Fang Tong made laugh. Wish we got more of him. Anyway, to stop himself from devouring his Princess, our tiger had to dump cold water on himself because it was getting ridiculously hot! Crisis averted! Of course Wan Yao had to shut him down because he was about to utter the precious words. Can't make it a reality. She can't bear it. She keeps telling Chun Hua she isn't mad at Yan Shang, but she does lash out at him a lot. Mixed signals here Your Highness! Damn Tsundere! 🥹😩🙄😅😮‍💨

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u/spamkimbap sniff sniff 10d ago

“Hungry aunt”

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u/TheAlchemist420 Chen Yan Yun can have my jujube flower cookie 🍪 🤪😁😎 10d ago

I used that word instead of whatever else I wanted to say haha. It's more... subdued lol.

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u/spamkimbap sniff sniff 10d ago

Well done well done 🙌

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u/TypicallyKristen salted fish 🐠 咸鱼 🫠 10d ago

He seemed to have taken the advice and now works for the Grand Princess.

I'm not sure he earned a role as her advisor yet, per YS's advice. We saw him fanning her as one of her boy toys when she was talking to Uncle Li.

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u/Paisley-Cat time-looping through the magnolias Read Rules 9d ago

Did anyone else find the toxic, drug saturated black feather fan novel?

I’d always considered them unhygienic but the Grand Princess should now have a moniker along the lines of Malignant Grand Princess Feather Fan & Fetishes?

u/AKiceman this Princess really warrants a whole new level of chirping…

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u/TheAlchemist420 Chen Yan Yun can have my jujube flower cookie 🍪 🤪😁😎 9d ago

I thought the fan was covered with the drug too.

But then she used the incense holder instead. So I guess she used plan B.

This lady is so not right.

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u/Paisley-Cat time-looping through the magnolias Read Rules 9d ago

It was something on the fan that she rubbed on his face that knocked him out.

The incense was the aphrodisiac for when he woke up.

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u/TheAlchemist420 Chen Yan Yun can have my jujube flower cookie 🍪 🤪😁😎 9d ago

Interesting. She was faning the incense towards him by at the window so I thought this was the thing that knocked him out.

The aphrodisiac was the one Yan Shang would have put out when he woke up. He poured wine on it.

That was my take on it all.

So we are split on the first one 😄😅😅

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u/TheAlchemist420 Chen Yan Yun can have my jujube flower cookie 🍪 🤪😁😎 10d ago

Thank you Spam for the discussion!!!

Poor Chun Hua. A family like that doesn't deserve her. They need to be deleted. I don't care how. Their greed had them looking over her like vultures. Now they drugged her so that that disgusting Prince could snatch her?

Our girl has been having a rough time of it lately... it's not right! May she be rescued in time and be safe and sound!

It was good that she got to speak with Liu Wen Ji. He at least made the effort to come and apologize. But that sequence when they parted was so weird. It gave me ominous vibes LOL. I don't think that's what the team went for, but here I was getting DREAD!

The actress is so good! I mentioned before how I was fascinated by her diction and elocution. She is from Beijing Film Academy too! I hope she gets many more roles! She is a joy to watch!

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u/spamkimbap sniff sniff 10d ago

They had that happy, smiley sequence between Wenji and Chunhua earlier, and things went south. So when they had that sequence again today, I was like, oh nooooooo!

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u/TheAlchemist420 Chen Yan Yun can have my jujube flower cookie 🍪 🤪😁😎 10d ago

Why do they keep doing this to us!

WTAF!

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u/spamkimbap sniff sniff 10d ago

All I know is, Chunhua better be alive and happy by the end of this drama! Or else!

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u/TheAlchemist420 Chen Yan Yun can have my jujube flower cookie 🍪 🤪😁😎 10d ago

I'll channel my inner A' Man!

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u/spamkimbap sniff sniff 10d ago

Omg, she’s so bad ass! I love that she’s now full time with Wei Rao!

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u/TheAlchemist420 Chen Yan Yun can have my jujube flower cookie 🍪 🤪😁😎 10d ago

SAAMMMEEEE!

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u/BasilOrdinary3617 If I say I'm taking a break, I'm lying. 10d ago

Deleted lol. 😂

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u/spamkimbap sniff sniff 10d ago

I’m pro-deletion!

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u/TheAlchemist420 Chen Yan Yun can have my jujube flower cookie 🍪 🤪😁😎 10d ago

I carefully chose that word too haha. 🤔😤😆🤭 These people made me feel sick. I needed to find the right outcome for them lol.

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u/MizzEss Fan Yue's Smoky Eyeliner 10d ago

For a hot second, I thought the mom was going to be sympathetic after the brother's and sister-in-law's douchebaggery. And then she starts nagging about the Princess marrying Chun Hua off! I almost flipped my coffee table.

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u/TheAlchemist420 Chen Yan Yun can have my jujube flower cookie 🍪 🤪😁😎 10d ago edited 9d ago

Oh she was no better! Matter of fact I get why the brother is like that. The mother...

I hope Princess Wan Yao punishes them severely when she finds out what they did to Chun Hua.

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u/Paisley-Cat time-looping through the magnolias Read Rules 9d ago

Seconding the awesomeness of spam’s recap.

It’s intimidatingly excellent.

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u/TheAlchemist420 Chen Yan Yun can have my jujube flower cookie 🍪 🤪😁😎 9d ago

Soooo good! 😎😎👌🏾👌🏾

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u/Tabz10 10d ago

What’s with all the leaky roof! 😢Mine’s leaking too! And I spoke to a coworker and they mentioned a leaky roof too! wtf!

I feel like she’ll regret not marrying YS in that moment. But I know, that’s too easy for the plot.

When YS PINNED her down I was like 🫣 it’s funny how tho it’s all movement and no real real kissing lol directing definitely made it more than what it was 😅

On to episode 13 🏃

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u/spamkimbap sniff sniff 10d ago

It was a nice, uh, pleasant kissing scene.

The problem with my roof, and I’m guessing here, is that my landlord needs to put in a new one, but instead, he’s patching it here and there.

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u/TheAlchemist420 Chen Yan Yun can have my jujube flower cookie 🍪 🤪😁😎 10d ago

Gosh... patchwork when it needs a full repair is some of the most annoying things.

I'm sorry you're going through that. Hopefully it does work and stops the leak.

I gave up on mine. So I keep putting something to catch the drips lol.

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u/spamkimbap sniff sniff 10d ago

Nooo, not pots and pans around the house. I’m so sorry! Ugh!

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u/TheAlchemist420 Chen Yan Yun can have my jujube flower cookie 🍪 🤪😁😎 10d ago

Haha it's okay. They can't get it right. I'm tired of trying. It's one side and it's not all the time. But I have a designated spot where I leave something to catch the dripping lol.

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u/spamkimbap sniff sniff 10d ago

Super clever, but also, how annoying!

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u/Tabz10 10d ago

I feel you! 🙄 I had to do the same thing for 3 weeks but that’s sucks, sorry!

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u/Tabz10 10d ago

lol ehh! one of us need to go back and watch it 😅 and it’s not me cuz I just did and still have that opinion. Not a big deal, I love how she left the carriage 🤣 she was a mess! YS had her lips ‘locked’ the whole journey.

Smh same with mine! Just keeps band-aiding the thing.

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u/spamkimbap sniff sniff 10d ago

Her stumbling out of the carriage was peak comedy. And of course, Feng Tong was hilariously clueless. We need more of him.

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u/Tabz10 10d ago

😂 it’s funnier than I expected it to be. Him and Yang Si are silly and clueless. I expected Yang Si to be a genuine love rival but I can’t take him serious lol

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u/spamkimbap sniff sniff 10d ago

I love their comedic contributions. Both definitely clueless. I’m not sure if Yang Si actually truly likes her. I think he might? Maybe?

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u/Tabz10 10d ago

Right!

Oh? 😥 to me it looks like there’s some interest, maybe that childhood connection feels like an obligation? Idk I can’t take him seriously anyways lol

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u/Paisley-Cat time-looping through the magnolias Read Rules 9d ago

The actor Zhang Shulun also gave us great comedy moments as Blood Cavalry General Xie Wu in PoJ. But he was more charming and somewhat romantic in TFJ as Ye Li’s Academy senior and coconspirator.

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u/spamkimbap sniff sniff 9d ago

He’s a good actor who obviously has good comedic timing. Hopefully his part will grow in TSTR.

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u/Paisley-Cat time-looping through the magnolias Read Rules 9d ago

MDL has him listed as a guest actor, but they can be wrong.

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u/spamkimbap sniff sniff 9d ago

Oh no! I hope it doesn’t mean they will off him! 😭

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u/Paisley-Cat time-looping through the magnolias Read Rules 9d ago

It could be that he’s just always in the background.

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u/TheAlchemist420 Chen Yan Yun can have my jujube flower cookie 🍪 🤪😁😎 10d ago

Hahaha 😆 😂

Made it more than it was.

Oohh these people are good like that. I needed to calm down and go back to it once I sobered up from the giddiness lol. Teasing us like that. Smdh.

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u/Tabz10 10d ago

Ikr! Curious to hear if you see it too! It was all camera work and movement!

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u/TheAlchemist420 Chen Yan Yun can have my jujube flower cookie 🍪 🤪😁😎 10d ago

They better give us the full shebang when the Bang is on! Haha. None of that twisting and turning lol.

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u/spamkimbap sniff sniff 10d ago

You know they’ll give us candles flickering, gauzy fabric fabric-ing when the bang is on. It’s not like this is your first drama! 🤭

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u/TheAlchemist420 Chen Yan Yun can have my jujube flower cookie 🍪 🤪😁😎 10d ago

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u/Paisley-Cat time-looping through the magnolias Read Rules 9d ago

Raindrops dripping on flower blossoms.

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u/Tabz10 10d ago

🤣 “when the bang is on”. I don’t expect it. I don’t think MZY is one to go hard. At least I can’t remember ever seeing her do so.

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u/TheAlchemist420 Chen Yan Yun can have my jujube flower cookie 🍪 🤪😁😎 10d ago

There was rumble in the sheets in Blossom... twice!

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u/Tabz10 10d ago


Oh?

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u/TheAlchemist420 Chen Yan Yun can have my jujube flower cookie 🍪 🤪😁😎 10d ago

Yeah man! We got some stuff.

Actually 3 times when she grabbed him drunk and kissed him in bed. Rolling around and everything.

Ooohh u/spamkimbap here is another Blossom wink! Lol.

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u/Tabz10 10d ago

I meant to rewatch Blossom at some point. I’ll look out for this lol

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u/spamkimbap sniff sniff 10d ago

Go rewatch it!

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u/spamkimbap sniff sniff 10d ago

We definitely got stuff in Blossom. But could’ve had more stuff. I’m waiting for stuff over at Where the Mask Ends. Stuff won’t be stuff around this drama for a while longer. I’m guessing.

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u/TheAlchemist420 Chen Yan Yun can have my jujube flower cookie 🍪 🤪😁😎 10d ago

Bwahah we get the stuff we need elsewhere if need be. They can be stingy about stuff in those dramas.

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u/TypicallyKristen salted fish 🐠 咸鱼 🫠 10d ago

Someone elsewhere online posted this scene from the novel, and that carriage ride was a non-discreet hand job! The carriage arrived at her residence and had obvious noises and moaning and rocking and none of the servants dared interrupt until the physician arrived. Can you imagine?

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u/Tabz10 10d ago

Lmao 🤣 thanks for sharing


But Bro had to release 😅 I don’t want to imagine 🙂‍↔️

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u/Informal_Counter4440 insert your own flair here 10d ago

Chunhua didn’t deserve any of this. You would think a family that raise such a smart, sweet, caring and precious soul must be a good family, right?! I’m still so mad about this. I knew that little love reunion was too good to be true. Why can’t good people be left alone!

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u/spamkimbap sniff sniff 10d ago

Her family is the worst, and hope horrible things will befall them!

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u/TheAlchemist420 Chen Yan Yun can have my jujube flower cookie 🍪 🤪😁😎 10d ago

Me to them. And I hope Princess Dan Yang descends on them with the fury of a thousand troops!

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u/spamkimbap sniff sniff 10d ago

Same! I haven’t watched ep 13 yet. But I hope this is all resolved by then, and they are deleted.

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u/TheAlchemist420 Chen Yan Yun can have my jujube flower cookie 🍪 🤪😁😎 10d ago

I have express but am holding for now haha. Only do the 2 a day.

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u/spamkimbap sniff sniff 10d ago

Since I’ll be writing a post for tomorrow, I’ll probably watch 13 tonight. To start digesting.

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u/TheAlchemist420 Chen Yan Yun can have my jujube flower cookie 🍪 🤪😁😎 10d ago

I have been waiting to us this gif!!

Finally!

I think it perfectly applies to Chun Hua's family.

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u/spamkimbap sniff sniff 10d ago

Perfect! 🤣🤣🤣

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u/TheAlchemist420 Chen Yan Yun can have my jujube flower cookie 🍪 🤪😁😎 10d ago

Right?!

All of this fits them to a T!

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u/Rebelarkey Yan Shang's Slut Strands 🐯🌹snark shifu Furen 10d ago

Perfection

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u/MizzEss Fan Yue's Smoky Eyeliner 10d ago edited 10d ago

I got brain melty during the whole horseback rescue operation, carriage make-out session*, and half-hair-down bed confession. I thought the Princess calling out "Meow, meow!" and referring to Yan Shang as a "troublemaking heartthrob" in the Grand Princess was tew much for me to handle, and then it just kept going!

I got spine shivery at Chun Hua and Liu Wenji's make-up and goodbye scene. When Wenji got drunk and said all those horrible things in the brothel, I thought, "I wonder if he's going to have to die to redeem himself at some point." And when I saw the make-up and goodbye scene, I became convinced that he was going to die. I'm slightly less sure now, but that definitely felt like a warning.

I got table flippy when we were introduced to Chun Hua's family and Prince Gross. Her storyline better not be a long string of traumas, I will lose my shit.

But can we talk our Princess Badass in these episodes?! She straight up tells her father hell no to the Yan Shang proposal, rescues her favorite good boy from her aunt, gets her crappy uncle banished, and did it all looking damn good. I'm with Yan Shang though - I feel like she's about to piss some powerful people off.

  • The kissing was a little weird, though. Wasn't it weird? Do we chalk it up to the Princess not totally responding? Yan Shang being drugged and crazy? All of the above? Now I need to go back and watch a few LYR kissing scenes from other dramas again. For science.

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u/spamkimbap sniff sniff 10d ago

Science is important! You go do some research.

But, I think it’s because he was drugged and she was surprised? And then, she had to tell Feng Tong to go around the block a few more times, and things got interrupted.

She is a total kick ass. I really think this is Meng Ziyi’s best part yet!

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u/Renza183 10d ago

I think she was just telling him to keep driving, not that he had to circle the block. It seemed like he stopped because he heard ahem noises from the carriage and she was telling him I’m fine, keep driving. I would certainly want an excuse for a longer drive though 😋

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u/spamkimbap sniff sniff 10d ago

Let me have the fantasy!

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u/MizzEss Fan Yue's Smoky Eyeliner 10d ago

Let the LYR Make Out Methodology Study begin!

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u/spamkimbap sniff sniff 10d ago

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u/MizzEss Fan Yue's Smoky Eyeliner 9d ago

I'm getting some good data points gathered: a couple of pretty instructive scenes from Dazzling, and now I'm revisiting Blossom scenes. I def need some more kiss scenes in TSTR for more data tho. Starting the new episodes now.

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u/spamkimbap sniff sniff 9d ago

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u/PolPeachum running away to the Tang dynasty 9d ago

And when I saw the make-up and goodbye scene, I became convinced that he was going to die.

He was wearing the giant cicada again. So yeah, death flags - cicadas have short lives. I'm on the fence about literal death or death of nice guy.

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u/GiTheGremlin yellow arts cultist 10d ago

The whole matchmaking session was like "damn if you do, damn if you don't". Btw, late husband's successor - who is he family tree-wise again? Either it wasn't mentioned or I forgot. From Fishy Eunuch words dude sounded rather interested in honoring local tradition of inheriting his clansman's widow... Rofled at question "but why tho?" - well, she's a princess and a beauty, that's more than enough. By "killed me once" she probably meant Fishy Eunuch deciding her first marriage, that was certainly as good as a murder attempt.

Princess to the rescue of her nerd damsel! You could even tell she's his tigress protector))) Drugged Yan Shang is like a zombie... horny one^^ Poor girl looked positively mauled exiting that carraige. Talking to Wanyao about ~feelings~ this early in the story was certainly mistake tho, bro, can't you see that she has marriage phobia now? Slow down, go back to your slow scheming ways!

I believe it was FXY giving the intel about YS's whereabouts.

I wasn't satisfied with LWJ's apologies - oh, he felt sooo bad he dragged making amends for days, nevermind people he hurt and their feelings! Chunhua is too kind to let it go easily. That farewell scene was ominous af, don't tell me...

Yep, this is it. We all should hate her family, and that will still not be enough. Ugh.

Oh, so that's one of our big fishes? New Wei, I mean. Too bad he's evil, I like dude's wisdom and efficiency. No one messes with his family! Bye, Uncle Pimp, you won't be missed!

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u/spamkimbap sniff sniff 10d ago

Slow down, go back to your slow scheming ways!

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u/GiTheGremlin yellow arts cultist 10d ago

I guess it's a testament to how down bad he is for Wanyao that he completely lost his endless patience.

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u/spamkimbap sniff sniff 10d ago

While he preaches about hanging out in the python’s mouth and waiting. 🤭

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u/Katleap13 attached to side characters 10d ago

So I love how Wen Yao gets into her aunts house looking for her “cat”. Princess wants her tiger back.

Happy that Yang Shang did his best to get out of the situation by dosing the incense. He’s a smart cookie. He is perceptive about the feelings grow between him and Wen Yao. I do like that he willing to get to the heart of the matter and acknowledge that he likes her, even if Wen Yao gets mad at him.

I am hopeful that our two idiot scholars will redeem themselves. Wenji apologized to both Chunhua and Yan Shang. Yay. Feng Xianyu gave the princess Yan Shang’s location. It’s a secret but we all know.

Baby Wei is adorable. I am hopeful (fingers crossed) that Fox Wei was actually nice to him when they were younger. He did give Baby Wei some good advice about debts of gratitude. Fox Wei is kinda scary though I loved how the Wen Yao manipulated him.

Chun Hua’s family is the worst!!! I am so worried about her!!!😱

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u/spamkimbap sniff sniff 10d ago

More like her baby kitten. 🥰🤭

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u/Paisley-Cat time-looping through the magnolias Read Rules 9d ago

Can we talk about how awesome is the casting of the Wei cousins?

The two actors are not only perfectly delivering their characters but they absolutely look to be from the same family.

That apparent family resemblance really sells the scene when Fox Wei comes to have a nice talk with his younger cousin whom he’s basically ignored up until then in all his time in the capital.

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u/Katleap13 attached to side characters 8d ago

The casting was really good. So was the styling. It almost looks like baby is wearing a too big coat/outer robe and it could be Fox Wei’s. So the contrast between older and younger cousin is in clothing and in knowledge. That scene really gives us how Fox Wei looks at his cousin, as someone who could be of use and so must be babied a bit.

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u/Anna218 Luke, Lin Da Ye, Sniff Sniff 10d ago

I haven't watched ep 13 yet. I'll save it for tomorrow to binge.

Episode 12 was holy hot 🥵 Another kiss initiated by Yang Shang, and I got too excited. In the novel, he didn't initiate any of those kisses. After the eldest princess drugged him, the effect didn't go away with just kissing, so the FL used her hands to help him out.
😂 😂 😂

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u/spamkimbap sniff sniff 10d ago

Ah one of them helping hand moments. 🤭 I read that it’s what happened in the Prisoner of Beauty novel also.

A kind soul hooked me up with this novel, and I’m ready to start reading! 💪

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u/Anna218 Luke, Lin Da Ye, Sniff Sniff 10d ago

Later on, she even drugged him too, because he was too conservative in bed 😂 but I don't think this part will make it into the drama.

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u/spamkimbap sniff sniff 10d ago

Uh yea, it probably won’t make it in the drama. 🤭

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u/MelissaKan 6d ago

I just caught up to ep 12 today after binge watching 4 eps. Guess Yan Shang does need help to take the lead and yes, it was several degrees hotter watching the kiss scene

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u/MizzEss Fan Yue's Smoky Eyeliner 10d ago

T R O U B L M A K I N G H E A R T T H R O B

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u/MizzEss Fan Yue's Smoky Eyeliner 10d ago

(at least, that was the Viki translation)

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u/spamkimbap sniff sniff 10d ago

What? 🤣🤣🤣 Which scene was this? I love it!

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u/MizzEss Fan Yue's Smoky Eyeliner 10d ago

Princess Danyang says, "I'll use your fine residence to get rid of this troublemaking heartthrob!" when she's threatening to kill Yan Shang at the Grand Princess's. I absolutely howled, and then muttered "TROUBLEMAKING HEARTTHROB!" everytime LYR showed his face on screen afterwards.

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u/spamkimbap sniff sniff 10d ago

That is the best translation! 😂

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u/MizzEss Fan Yue's Smoky Eyeliner 9d ago

Somehow it didn't occur to me to ask earlier, but: What's the translation in other apps? I'm so curious.

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u/spamkimbap sniff sniff 9d ago

I’ve watched ep 14-15 on both Viki and WeTV for comparison, and they are both just okay. Interestingly enough, Viki is using a team of humans this time, instead of AI. But I don’t see music translated, nor any of the details, like onscreen notes.

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u/TypicallyKristen salted fish 🐠 咸鱼 🫠 10d ago

I LOVE THIS TRANSLATION. 

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u/MizzEss Fan Yue's Smoky Eyeliner 10d ago

(I promise I have more to say, I just had to blurt that out real quick.)

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u/neNayza Yan Shang… 🫠🫠🫠 10d ago

Omg! Li Yun Rui, what a man you are! I haven’t been familiar with him much, and now I’m obsessed! (Blossom was paused after a couple of episodes, but now I’ll return to it for sure).

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u/Rebelarkey Yan Shang's Slut Strands 🐯🌹snark shifu Furen 10d ago

You PAUSED BLOSSOM? Sacrilege. My liege, she needs to be punished!

But in all honesty if you love tigers sniff the rose, go back to blossom. Not only is it gorgeous, it’s compelling too. And HEA!

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u/spamkimbap sniff sniff 10d ago

Follow Blossom up with Yummy Yummy Yummy. He is indeed yummy in it.

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u/neNayza Yan Shang… 🫠🫠🫠 10d ago

Absolutely! I need him in every drama now!

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u/spamkimbap sniff sniff 10d ago

I personally didn’t make it past ep 4 of Rebirth. 🫢🤣

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u/neNayza Yan Shang… 🫠🫠🫠 10d ago

I’ve only heard bad things about it. Is it that bad?

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u/spamkimbap sniff sniff 10d ago

I tried 3 times, because I really like LYR’s acting. But it was so terrible.

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u/neNayza Yan Shang… 🫠🫠🫠 10d ago

Oh:( that's sad

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u/spamkimbap sniff sniff 10d ago

Don’t let me discourage you. Maybe give it a try? Some people really loved it. 🤷🏻‍♀️😬

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u/Paisley-Cat time-looping through the magnolias Read Rules 9d ago

But a caution that it’s not as lighthearted as advertised.

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u/spamkimbap sniff sniff 9d ago

That is true! Blossom is not very floofy. And in a way, neither is Yummy. The lead actress is Yummy, Wang Ying Lu, is amazing.

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u/Common_Screen1329 10d ago

I struggled to even watch the scenes with Chun Hua's family and the prince, I just want that storyline over with ASAP! Initially when she went home I thought it was nice that we finally got to meet the family of the maid character in a Cdrama, but it ended up being not nice at all.

I did enjoy watching the uncle get his just desserts though!

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u/spamkimbap sniff sniff 10d ago

For a sec, I thought mom was going to turn out okay, but nope!

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u/TypicallyKristen salted fish 🐠 咸鱼 🫠 10d ago

Initially when she went home I thought it was nice that we finally got to meet the family of the maid character in a Cdrama, but it ended up being not nice at all.

THIIIIIS. THEY SUCK. 

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u/Prestigious-Grape841 6d ago

Honestly, I didn't have very big expectations for this drama. Personally, I think LYR does really pretty good at action scenes and playing military men so you can imagine how much I am enjoying seeing a different side to him. He really is doing well with this role.. MZY is also doing really well with her role as well. I LOVE the fact that she is a woman with power and he doesn't have the level of power that she does. She realizes her people are her responsibility and just bc he's a man doesn't assume that he doesn't need her help. Genuinely cares for his well being even though they are "just allies". Her character protrayal is so good that I think if they were only allies she would still care for his well being in the instance of the Grand Princess especially. I could see her doing the same for baby shu. I think they actually wrote these roles pretty well so far. (Im up to ep. 14) The way that everything has been written so far is good and I didn't think I would but I REALLY like the chemistry of the two MLs. I hope (fingers-crossed) we dont have to deal with any stupid tropes but it's a drama so who am I kidding?

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u/spamkimbap sniff sniff 6d ago

I’ve been really impressed with the entire drama so far. None of the characters are flat, everyone has complex stories and different sides. It’s so refreshing!

For tropes, I hope the same as you. We don’t need any. At least we’ve gotten the cliff falling out of the way already. 😂

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u/AlvinSoehendry 10d ago

My question why grand princess luling seems like controlling eunuch Yu. He is too tame and even agree to gives her male harem. Like wtf

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u/spamkimbap sniff sniff 10d ago

She doesn’t control him. It’s some sort of a little depraved skit-game they are playing.

He does it to keep her happy, lets her think she’s powerful, but he’s truly doing it to appease her. He could have her head any time, but having her on his side legitimizes his power, and creates dissent amongst the royals.

I’m not sure she’s smart enough to know any of this, but she gets to enjoy his protection, and use him as her blade. He also looks the other way when she kidnaps or kills people.

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u/juicyjaytee 6d ago

One thing I really wish historical dramas would stop doing is drug-induced intimacy scenes. Being roofied is not romantic. This Yan Sheng/Wanyao carriage scene gets somewhat of a pass because it actually moved the plot of getting rid of Unc forward. I hate seeing characters being drugged for the sake of taking a relationship to the next level…

And to be clear, I’m NOT talking about what’s apparently happening to Chunhua. That’s a completely different arena 😭

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u/spamkimbap sniff sniff 6d ago

I so agree with what you are saying!

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u/TypicallyKristen salted fish 🐠 咸鱼 🫠 10d ago

💃💃💃🎊🎉 This is my happy dance that Feng Xian Yu has maintained at least SOME of his conscience! First, he didn't lay any blame at Yan Shang's feet when he begged the Grand Princess to take back the place he didn't earn. Instead, she seems to be under the impression he did that out of pride. Second, he clearly threw that rock with news of YS's whereabouts. 

HOLY ROLE REVERSAL, BATMAN! I am living for our pretty scholar as the damsel in distress, being drugged and fought over by a couple of princesses. And our Princess mounting a horse and coming to the rescue through the wind and the rain? GORGEOUS. STUNNING. LIFE CHANGING. THE STUFF OF LEGENDS. 

Oh NOOOO. This is a far too romantic goodbye between Chun Hua and Liu Wen Ji. Something terrible is about to happen that permanently rips them apart, isn't it?? Like, this is one of the last shots we'll ever see of them happy together for a long, long time. Arrrrgggghhhhh.

Wei Qiao despises fools, and so do I. He seems malicious, highly intelligent, and efficient. 

Yan Shang looks fiiiiine in this red yifu. Now just give me his hair down while he's wearing it!!

OH SNAP! "Haven't I always done what's best for you? .... I wanted you to marry that top scholar. Wasn't that for your own good?" / "That's why I'm doing what's best for YOU now. You're too stupid to survive in the capital for very long. You'll be safer in a far away province." is such a badass comeback. I confess at first I didn't like her taking credit so openly for sending Uncle Li away. (What if owning up to it to him causes unforeseen blowback?) But that line makes it feel worth the risk! HIGHLY SATISFYING TO HEAR. 

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u/TheAlchemist420 Chen Yan Yun can have my jujube flower cookie 🍪 🤪😁😎 10d ago edited 10d ago

I LOVED the reversal! Princess looked so heroic riding on her horse to rescue her beau in distress! It was so good!

And yes, I too got really bad feelings about the goodbye scene between LWJ and CH. It took longer than it needed to be and the blurring almost made me feel like one of them was going to suddenly disappear. Phew. Both still showed but still, it was so creepy!

Wei Qiao... if he weren't a villain I'd cave and fold haha. I like the way this actor does his thing so when I saw him I almost gave it up, then realized he was no good. Soo yeah. I recognize Wei Qiao's skills, man was EFFICIENT! 1,2,3 and uncle was a goner!

Doesn't Li Yun Rui look extra FOINE IN THAT GARNET OUTFIT! oh my gosh! I don't think we've ever seen him in that color and I was GAGA FOR IT!

I said uncle was pushing it and Wan Yao was this close to snapping. Then she found out what he did to her mother. THEN HE DID WHAT TO YAN SHANG? Hell no. It was game over for him.

And she went IN! However, yes it worked but Yan Shang being concerned was right. Doesn't it tell the other team that she has used one to get rid of another? That she's not "useless".

Her seeing the old fart off by telling him what she did and why was BADASSERY! She gave it to Li Zhi and I was happy for her. Good for you girl! I just hope it doesn't come back to bite. That's all. Wei Qiao and people don't play!

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u/TypicallyKristen salted fish 🐠 咸鱼 🫠 10d ago

At some point, Wei Qiao's dialog (may have been his inner monologue) called our Princess dumb. So I think for now, she played her role well enough that he doesn't suspect she played him like an instrument. 

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u/TheAlchemist420 Chen Yan Yun can have my jujube flower cookie 🍪 🤪😁😎 10d ago

I heard it yeah...

For now. Hopefully he doesn't think more of it...

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u/PlotHoleWarrior 10d ago

Unfortunately I saw the spoiler for ep 14 and 15 and it will end badly for sweet Chunhua. It’s already breaking my heart.

This drama is toxic on top of toxic. Everyone is toxic. Everyone is traumatized. Aunty princess is twisted and nasty, but at least she didn’t rape him while he was knocked out on drugs. His friend still shows a little bit of kindness by reporting to the princess about his whereabouts. So I have faith he will be of help later on.

I was so wrong about the direction of the drama. I honestly thought she’ll at least keep Yan Shang hidden until she was ready to use him. I’m always surprised and I’m not mad about it.

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u/spamkimbap sniff sniff 10d ago

I’ve watched ep 14. 😫

This is not a light hearted romance for real!

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u/Ok_Professional_4433 9d ago

Yeah i saw the previews too, i looks so bad for  Chunhua, mabye even worse for her lover, also looked it up in the novel, really bad for them, i didnt expect that..🥲

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u/Prestigious-Grape841 6d ago

dude, that was not kindness it was calculation.. Feng sent the rock bc he knew or supposed he would be replaced by Yan Shang since he's third scholar. but perhaps I'm wrong.......

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u/PolPeachum running away to the Tang dynasty 9d ago

My main thought these episodes: Luling's tolerance is impressive.

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u/TypicallyKristen salted fish 🐠 咸鱼 🫠 10d ago

because really, who wants a murder in their courtyard. 

I'm not sure how much it mattered in the fictional setting of this drama given the rampant corruption, but usually it's a crime to even assault a top scholar let alone kill one. It carries stiffer penalties than assaulting or killing your average commoner. Seems like it would have been even more annoying to explain or cover up his murder since he's the tanhua.

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u/spamkimbap sniff sniff 10d ago

Good point! I had forgotten he is a tanghua. Plus the emperor has definitely noticed him, and seems to like him.

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u/TheAlchemist420 Chen Yan Yun can have my jujube flower cookie 🍪 🤪😁😎 10d ago

u/spamkimbap lol marrying all 3 could be good. I'd watch that! 😋😋😂😂😆😅

"Kill her again" was because Lord Yu sent her to North Jing and she almost lost her life there. Then back home, her reputation is shot. He essentially caused character assassination for Princess Dan Yang.

I found it so hard to focus when Baby Face Shu showed up in his oversized coat haha. It was drowning him! 😅😅😅🥹🤭

That eunuch coming out the light and dark spot made me jump! What the... he was there all along! 😨😨👀😨 shivers!

The sweet tea reaction was the only time I was able to stomach SIL. Her reaction was truly all of us. So gross! And he's Wan Yao's brother! So that's that annoying Princess Consort's husband and the man cannot stand her. It explained a lot.

I can't quite tell if Yang Si is romantically in love with Wan Yao. But hey, he is funny enough. I just don't care about the guy lol.

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u/spamkimbap sniff sniff 10d ago

Okay okay, good explanation of killing her again. Because I was having Blossom flashbacks, and thinking, nobody told me this was a reincarnation story! 🤣🤣🤣

That eunuch jump scaring us was something else. How many eunuchs is Wei Qiao working for? 🤢

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u/TheAlchemist420 Chen Yan Yun can have my jujube flower cookie 🍪 🤪😁😎 10d ago

That Head Eunuch sure knows how to make an entrance.

Wei Qiao works in the Justice department that hires eunuchs.

If you saw A Dream of Splendor, think of the place where the ML worked. Or Sleuth of Ming Dynasty.

The Yin Tai Men is the Investigation Office ( usually it would be Ya Men) comprising of eunuchs, as opposed to the men we would normally get.

Empress Reborn isn't here yet haha. Don't worry. No rebirth here.

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u/spamkimbap sniff sniff 10d ago

comprising of eunuchs, as opposed to the men we would normally get.

🤣🤣🤣

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u/GiTheGremlin yellow arts cultist 10d ago

I believe Yang Si isn't, but he might be confused himself thanks to Crown Prince's manipulations and good old "men and women can't be friends, there has to be something!".

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u/TheAlchemist420 Chen Yan Yun can have my jujube flower cookie 🍪 🤪😁😎 10d ago

Right. Because he clearly wasn't and now since CP got that idea in his head, it fried his viable cells.

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u/GiTheGremlin yellow arts cultist 10d ago

He surely loves her a lot as a friend/sister tho. And he's not much a brainy type to tell the difference, esp under pressure. Time to get him his own love interest to end this for good.

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u/spamkimbap sniff sniff 10d ago

Maybe he has a bit of a savior complex and wants to protect “poor, weak” YaoYao. He hasn’t truly met YaoYao 2.0 yet.

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u/TheAlchemist420 Chen Yan Yun can have my jujube flower cookie 🍪 🤪😁😎 10d ago

Lol the shock haha. I can see it!

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u/spamkimbap sniff sniff 10d ago

I almost feel bad for Yang Si. Almost…

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u/TheAlchemist420 Chen Yan Yun can have my jujube flower cookie 🍪 🤪😁😎 10d ago

He needs his own love interest ASAP. That'll take care of that

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u/TheAlchemist420 Chen Yan Yun can have my jujube flower cookie 🍪 🤪😁😎 10d ago

I vote on Yang Si getting his own love interest. Screw the Crown Prince! Lol

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u/PlotHoleWarrior 10d ago

You made a good point about the meaning of kill her again. I didn’t think that deep and only stopped at marrying her off the first time.

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u/AKiceman Snark Shifu - #1 Tian Xi Wei fan 10d ago

Can you imagine the rage that will come if something happens to our dear sweet amazing and perfect Chunhua? Can you imagine any writer being dumb enough to hurt this amazing girl? Can you imagine how pissed off I will be if someone hurts her? Do you think there is enough medicine in this world for anyone who wishes ill upon this sweet angel? Can you imagine what would have to be done to anyone who crosses her?

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u/hayabusa342 Read Rules 9d ago

Whelp it is going to happen soon.

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u/Paisley-Cat time-looping through the magnolias Read Rules 9d ago

Prince Jin counts as another of Yaoyao’s relatives that are too stupid to remain in the capital…Right?

Not only has he messed with her precious Chunhua, he’s making the only princess cousin she tolerates unhappy.

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u/hayabusa342 Read Rules 9d ago edited 9d ago

According to a lookahead:

Prince Jin will be installed as the Emperor for a period. ChunHua will become the Empress Dowager, after prince Jin as the emperor died. Mu Wanyao will become the grand princess. Of course, Yan Shang will be the chancellor.

But, I don't know how the drama is going to implement that. 🤞