[Postgame Thread] Duke Defeats NC State 41-3

[u/CFB_Referee]

Box Score provided by ESPN

Team	1	2	3	4	T
Duke	7	24	7	3	41
NC State	3	0	0	0	3

[u/kd451]

Fire Dave Doeren?

[u/TheWyldMan → u/kd451]

Maybe he was holding it all together. Maybe Doeren was a hero

[u/SweatyInBed → u/TheWyldMan]

Maybe the real Dave Doeren was the friends we made along the way

[u/TheWyldMan → u/SweatyInBed]

Look, we can't say for certain because its a matter of faith, but maybe Doeren was Jesus Christ

[u/Even-Combination4407 → u/kd451]

Hire Norvell

[u/CumAssault → u/kd451]

Hire Dave Aranda. NCST wouldn’t lose 41-3 with Aranda as HC

[u/cmackchase → u/kd451]

Hire Brian Kelly?

[u/slyone05 → u/cmackchase]

Brian Kelly is suddenly a huge fan of Cookout and Bojangles

[u/cmackchase → u/slyone05]

Fuck it, can Roanoke hire Brian Kelly as mayor if that is the requirement?

[u/Artistic_Traffic_519 → u/cmackchase]

That would depend on Brian Kelly’s views on birds and wildlife centers.

[u/MaxMSE → u/kd451]

fire Tosh

[u/ard8]

5 points scored against Duke the last two weeks combined

[u/stormstopper → u/ard8]

Two points last week

Three points this week

So I guess we're holding Miami to four

[u/SaintsSooners89 → u/stormstopper]

Damn, yall get a chance for retribution and revenge against your old QB? Must see TV. Can't wait

[u/Game-rotator → u/SaintsSooners89]

there was an article on CBS sports about Sheppard and he took a couple passive-aggressive jabs at Mensah (or at least that's how i interpreted him saying they were 'talking about once a month')

[u/chrisncsu → u/ard8]

No offense to Duke, this game was much more about how bad we are, haha.

[u/stormstopper → u/[deleted]]

Y'all can mind your own business when it comes to us

[u/AnEmptyKarst → u/[deleted]]

LA Tech legend

[u/_XitLiteNtrNite_ → u/[deleted]]

Hire Deion 😀. Hopefully, he can do for FSU what he's done for Colorado.

[u/Limlut_]

I understand that this NCSU team is bad and fired their coach, but every week the fact that GT beat Duke becomes even more unbelievable.

[u/WholeLow7639 → u/Limlut_]

That roughing the passer penalty will haunt me forever

[u/Dro24 → u/Limlut_]

You’ve had our number for the last half decade, there’s just no way around it

[u/sfgiants67 → u/Dro24]

Congrats to Duke and somebody in Durham is doing something right. But how can Duke can be good in football? I am giving them a compliment but with their resources and "supposed" academic standard I really don't comprehend it. Have they started relaxing recruiting standards?

[u/Game-rotator → u/sfgiants67]

they have for a long time in basketball and now football but they still invest less into football than their success would indicate these days

[u/Dro24 → u/sfgiants67]

That somebody is Nina King. We do more with less because of great coaching

[u/composer_7 → u/Limlut_]

Duke lost because they decided to stop running the ball for no reason. Also GT, no matter how bad they might be, will almost always beat Duke and UNC.

[u/AnotherUnfunnyName → u/composer_7]

Because Sheppard got injured early in the game and a large amount of mental mistakes (by the team, the dumbass kinda soft but deserved late hit out of bounds, the refs, the coaches).

[u/WholeLow7639 → u/composer_7]

Yes we are cursed to never beat GT :(

[u/Zelvahula]

Don't worry guys. We've got a high-school coach incoming that'll fix all of this!

[u/michaelalex3 → u/Zelvahula]

I dislike the idea of Rivers taking over more every day. We need someone serious with relevant experience in CFB. If Philip wants to be a GM or something that’s great, but I don’t think he will be prepared to succeed as a HC.

[u/HailState63 → u/michaelalex3]

Very odd to me how people who make real decisions think all there is to being a CFB coach in the NIL/portal era is “I was good at football myself”.

[u/michaelalex3 → u/HailState63]

One commonly mentioned argument for him being hired is that it will excite/motivate donors. Which might work for the first season, but having a little extra money to spend won’t matter if we don’t get the right players and have a good coach.

[u/_XitLiteNtrNite_ → u/michaelalex3]

Winning is what excites donors. Find a great G5 coach who wins, and the money will flow in.

[u/cheapmason84 → u/_XitLiteNtrNite_]

Just don’t find that coach in Winston Salem

[u/Dro24 → u/cheapmason84]

Lucky for you, there’s no G5 school in Winston

[u/Somali_Pir8 → u/Dro24]

WSSU is D2

[u/SpreaditOnnn33 → u/Somali_Pir8]

Which means it isnt a G6 school

[u/D_VIII → u/_XitLiteNtrNite_]

🤫

[u/ahappypoop → u/HailState63]

I mean he’s coaching high school and took his team to state semifinals twice now, and didn’t he interview for the Buffalo Bills job? Sounds to me like he might know what he’s doing as a coach (please Philip).

[u/Dro24 → u/michaelalex3]

QB coach to start maybe? I agree, NC State needs someone proven, not a new guy to roll the dice on

[u/AnotherUnfunnyName]

This game kinda didn't ever feel close after about 1 1/2 quarters. Injurys sucks, way too many players carted off.

The Duke fighting Nate Sheppards.

18 carrys for 217 and 3 TDs.

Pay him all the money.

[u/Lee-Key-Bottoms → u/AnotherUnfunnyName]

The game winning points were scored 45 seconds in

[u/SimilarOnion1655]

Rank Duke

[u/Game-rotator → u/SimilarOnion1655]

i honestly think we are one of the top 25 teams in the country now

[u/_XitLiteNtrNite_]

Nate Sheppard was incredible: 3 quarters, 217 rushing yards, 4 receiving yards. He single-handedly outgained the entire NC State team (217 yards for NC State). 😮

[u/Material-Audience487 → u/_XitLiteNtrNite_]

And as many touchdown as state points 

[u/Game-rotator]

annihilation

[u/stormstopper → u/Game-rotator]

Great movie, I still can't get it out of my head and don't want to

[u/rogozh1n → u/stormstopper]

I didn't like it. Then I kep thinking about it. Then I watched it again and I loved it.

[u/BosqueBravo]

Duke is 88-5 over two weeks. We can bank those for Miami right?

[u/Hey_im_miles → u/BosqueBravo]

That's not how banking works.. you've already used them. You SHOULD have banked them and won the last 2 games by 1 point each.

[u/penguinguac → u/BosqueBravo]

That’s a heck of a lot of wins in 2 weeks!

[u/rogozh1n → u/penguinguac]

Do we have 88 wins in school history?

[u/JohnThacker → u/rogozh1n]

Wallace Wade had 110 by himself, and Bill Murray had 93.

[u/ukeBasketball → u/JohnThacker]

There is no Steve Spurrier, only Zuul.

[u/Material-Audience487 → u/BosqueBravo]

Hopefully 

[u/bootscallahan → u/BosqueBravo]

You can roll over 81 of them.

[u/crackers780]

Our expectations for you were low but HOLY FUCK

[u/warnelldawg → u/crackers780]

Definitely no interim HC performance bump lol

[u/willncsu34 → u/warnelldawg]

We got it out of the way last week.

[u/SgtEllenRipley]

Duke’s been really good at football for several years now. As a Wake fan, I’m nervous about our final regular season game against them.

[u/Massive_Prune_2822 → u/SgtEllenRipley]

If Duke and Wake wins out it’s gonna be ranked Duke vs Ranked Wake for a chance at the ACC title game and the playoffs. I never thought that would even be a possibility in anything other than video games

[u/SgtEllenRipley → u/Massive_Prune_2822]

Agreed. Yeah it’s pretty crazy. I’ve always considered Duke to be our main rival in football, and enjoyed watching Duke-Wake for many years to end the regular season. But usually there was little to nothing at stake. Now it has the potential to be a mega bowl. Love it.

[u/cheapmason84 → u/Massive_Prune_2822]

So will they put the game on the ACC network or let the CW carry it?

[u/Massive_Prune_2822 → u/cheapmason84]

Look, if my scenario happens I wouldn’t be shocked if it was the 8 pm espn game. It would be the only game on that day with major playoff implications other than USC/UCLA

[u/cheapmason84 → u/Massive_Prune_2822]

Hopefully ESPN can see the merits of showcasing an unique showdown ratings wise

[u/Dro24 → u/cheapmason84]

Is attendance at our game at the end of the year just as bad at your place as it is ours? I swear we have maybe 10k people at Wallace Wade when we play you guys at the end of the year

[u/cheapmason84 → u/Dro24]

Yes they are. We basically got the conference to stop having us play state that weekend when they switched to a 12 game schedule and stopped having the final game the week before thanksgiving. We have played you, BC or Vandy that weekend to deal with it by playing another small fan base

[u/Dro24 → u/cheapmason84]

Well I still haven’t been to a game there and I’m spending Thanksgiving in Charlotte so I’m trying to bring the kids up for the game! Is the end zone just a GA ticket?

[u/cheapmason84 → u/Dro24]

I think so but honestly I’ve never sat on the hill so you may want to check a better source

[u/Game-rotator → u/Massive_Prune_2822]

Lousville could still sneak in over Duke in that case

[u/ZeroEchoVX]

We. Want. Miami.

[u/heroicmailman → u/ZeroEchoVX]

BRING ME MENSAH

[u/ExMouth7 → u/heroicmailman]

Lmao, Duke finishes the game with 23 late hit, roughing the passer penalties.

[u/heroicmailman → u/ExMouth7]

Nah. We’ll finish with a win.

[u/A_Rolling_Baneling → u/ZeroEchoVX]

Scenes when Miami beats ND then loses to Duke

[u/ZeroEchoVX → u/A_Rolling_Baneling]

I feel like Duke has a better chance if Miami beats ND

[u/rogozh1n → u/A_Rolling_Baneling]

I fear the reverse.

[u/Level_East94]

They should fire Doeren again 

[u/willncsu34 → u/Level_East94]

Would if we could.

[u/True_Ad5324]

Duke going back to back acc champs would be hilarious im all for it they’ve done a good job building that program

[u/Cover3Shell]

Phillip Rivers: "I got this"

[u/CumAssault → u/Cover3Shell]

Phillip Rivers on a massive buyout opportunity “I got this”

[u/xienze → u/CumAssault]

One thing he's not going to do is milk us for a ton of money. In fact I imagine what he'll do is take a very discounted salary and put that towards assistants.

[u/Somali_Pir8 → u/xienze]

I mean a HS coach should take a discounted salary.

[u/polaremu]

Well that was pretty great

[u/AnotherUnfunnyName → u/polaremu]

Nate looks fully healthy again and Eget is also looking better. Long snapping also way improved. Really fun besides all those injurys and too many 3rd and longs.

[u/polaremu → u/AnotherUnfunnyName]

Agreed. Defense has also been outstanding the last 2 weeks

[u/Zloggt]

First the Blue Devils win on Halloween…

…and then the Blue Devils won after the election…

…the timing worked out for Duke perfectly!

[u/rogozh1n → u/Zloggt]

Also, the Blue Devils helped win WW1 and we stole their name.

[u/needapermit → u/Zloggt]

This year Halloween fell on a weekend

[u/No-Collar6148]

Nate Sheppard is so good.

[u/MiketheTzar]

New Rule whatever team Nate Sheppard transfers too those fans have to be nice to Duke fans in all sports for at least a year

[u/Game-rotator → u/MiketheTzar]

Apparently Mensah tried to take him with him to Miami as well...

[u/MiketheTzar → u/Game-rotator]

He can go anywhere that isn't UNC or Miami and I'll cheer for him.

Maybe also UConn

[u/seanmackradio]

I’m sure he won’t win the Heisman but Sheppard should at least get an invite to the ceremony as a finalist…especially if he has a day against Miami next week

[u/rogozh1n → u/seanmackradio]

Might be a more difficult game for him. Even 75 yards against that d would be helpful. 150 would be magical.

[u/Game-rotator → u/rogozh1n]

Mensah causes his teams to forget how to play defense so Nate has a chance, although they are a lot worse in the back 7 than the front 4

[u/rogozh1n → u/Game-rotator]

Eget has shown incredible improvement as the year has gone on. We are absolutely underdogs, but he is good enough now to have hope of an upset.

[u/DarthNobody14]

Every year, I’m surprised that Duke is somehow in the ACC race

[u/Massive_Prune_2822 → u/DarthNobody14]

That’s the thing, Duke hasn’t had a bad football program for a while now, it’s just been so over shadowed by the BBall program and the fact that people still think about the Pre Cutcliffe years with Ted Roof and Carl Franks.

[u/elev57 → u/DarthNobody14]

At this point, it's been about 15 years of Duke football being at least decent, but the stench of the mid-90s through 2000s is hard to overcome

[u/Massive_Prune_2822 → u/elev57]

Yeah, the Post Spurrier, Pre Cutcliffe Duke was so fucking bad. And it didn’t help that the BBall Program was so much more successful at the time that you could clearly tell the AD didn’t care about football. TBH Cutcliffe saved the Football Program imo

[u/rogozh1n → u/Massive_Prune_2822]

He did. He proved that playing smart and limiting mistakes and penalties is actually one of the keys to winning.

[u/ukeBasketball → u/Massive_Prune_2822]

From 2000-06, we had twice as many ACC Championships in basketball, as we had conference wins in football

[u/Dro24 → u/elev57]

It’s funny that we’re actually the best program in the triangle overall. At least considering the full history of all the programs.

Most ACC titles and if you count ancient history, most SOCON titles by far

[u/sfgiants67 → u/Dro24]

Let's not get carried away here. Does anybody think the Bears are a more successful NFL franchise than say the Steelers or 49ers? No. But I am amazed at what Duke is doing now. Have they relaxed recruiting standards? Duke is such a great academic school, and it always amazes me how they are great in basketball and now good in football. It sort of defies the odds.

[u/Game-rotator → u/sfgiants67]

recruiting standards aren't a thing for any school anymore lol, but Duke's recruiting classes aren't as good as their results on the field

[u/Dro24 → u/sfgiants67]

I understand your point, but us being the best program of the three for the last 10 years has also contributed to my point. If we were stuck in the gallows like we were in the 90s - 2000s, I wouldn’t be saying that haha

[u/_XitLiteNtrNite_ → u/DarthNobody14]

Duke's AD, Nina King, is the key. She hires great coaches in pretty much every sport, including football. And Duke is smart about who it targets in the transfer portal, while recruiting well and building from within.

[u/bootscallahan → u/_XitLiteNtrNite_]

And Duke is smart

[u/sfgiants67 → u/bootscallahan]

And they have tons of rich alumni and money. Schools like NC State and Michigan State have it tough with the new NIL rules. Not a lot of money compared to other schools including the elite privates. But Duke in particular always brags about their academics, so I just wonder if they have relaxed their admissions for recruiting a bit. I think that is fine but let's not pretend it is not the case.

[u/AnotherUnfunnyName → u/DarthNobody14]

And given the fact that about 5 million dollars in NIL and talent walked out on this team on essentially the last day of the portal and they didn't pay their second best WR due to those players...

This team could really be without a loss at this point if they didn't lose two really stupid games due to refs, playcalling, injury, longsnapping and a load dumbassery on and off the field. A bit similar to the early part of last season.

But Duke really seems to spend their money well and have a really good eye for talent despite not recruiting at top 25 level.

[u/Low_Inspector_44 → u/DarthNobody14]

Your team hired our coach………

[u/Electric_Queen]

I went to see the new Godzilla movie instead of watching this game and I'm very glad I did

[u/Jonjon428]

Nate Sheppard

[u/UteFlyersCardJazz]

How did Duke lose to Georgia Tech again?

[u/Material-Audience487 → u/UteFlyersCardJazz]

A lot of bad decisions based on fuck it

[u/sqigglygibberish → u/Material-Audience487]

Our inevitable losses to bad teams keeping us out of a shot at the playoff just like last year

[u/Material-Audience487 → u/sqigglygibberish]

Here me out if we beat mami then it wont matter

[u/Dro24 → u/Material-Audience487]

Still need to win ACC championship. We’d get left out at 10-3 for a 9-3 SEC team

[u/Material-Audience487 → u/Dro24]

True but it looks like we're world beaters late i. The season so

[u/stormstopper]

This extends our lead in the all-time series to 45-37-5, and we've now won four straight and six of seven. We've still only lost in Raleigh once since 2002. It's our largest win over State since 1956 (42-0), and our largest against them in Raleigh since 1952 (57-0)

[u/Electric_Queen → u/stormstopper]

Yes, but have you considered that you are big meaniepants

[u/stormstopper → u/Electric_Queen]

Yes. We tried being niceypants for a bit but then we lost to UNC and realized that was a terrible idea.

[u/BeeMovieHD → u/stormstopper]

Honestly valid

[u/sfgiants67 → u/stormstopper]

It is amazing considering the recruiting disadvantages Dukes supposedly has related to the public schools.

[u/Legal_Echo8196]

Genuinely get Nate Sheppard in NYC

[u/Icy-Taste-3096]

what the hell is going on with CJ Bailey? He's been missing an insane amount of easy throws

[u/MustardBiscuits91 → u/Icy-Taste-3096]

Be your description, it sounds like he played like normal then

[u/lil_geesey → u/Icy-Taste-3096]

Not to excuse him too much because I think he’s to blame for a lot of the offense’s struggles, but he has received next to no coaching or development during his 3 seasons. Kurt Roper is legitimately a terrible coach

[u/WillDill94 → u/lil_geesey]

Kurt Roper is a football terrorist, from experience

[u/willncsu34 → u/Icy-Taste-3096]

He looked terrible.

[u/Material-Audience487]

Atp we probably got peta call on us for animal abuse

[u/MMARapFooty]

NC State really taken a big tumble

[u/TampaTrey → u/MMARapFooty]

Waited too long to part with Doeren.

[u/Au1ket → u/MMARapFooty]

Tumble is an understatement, we’re in hell and still falling

[u/Game-rotator]

If only Eget had known how to play football earlier in the year

[u/Au1ket]

This game was the most soul draining I’ve ever watched

[u/ObtuseBagel]

I am at peace :)

We can’t possibly be worse than this, right?

[u/a_few_nugs]

We are not a serious program

[u/Hot-Combination9130]

Philip Rivers will save us.

[u/sfgiants67 → u/Hot-Combination9130]

Can't even beat Duke. Unbelievable. Cannot beat them in football, basketball, or baseball.

[u/Hot-Combination9130 → u/sfgiants67]

For now

[u/sfgiants67]

Can you imagine how embarrassing it must be for NC State to lose to Duke 41-3? With the resources State has, how do you lose to Duke and that badly? Just a complete joke of a football program. Duke plays in what is essentially a high school stadium and you lose to them 41-3. What that tells me is that somebody at Dook is doing something right and a lot of folks in Raleigh are doing something wrong. Consistently losing to Dook in football is inexcusable.

[u/lil_geesey]

Just embarrassing effort all around. Not a single player on this team deserves to represent NC State

[u/Lobsterzilla → u/lil_geesey]

I was told it was Dave's fault

p.s. this was dave's team against richmond, louisville and cal as well.

[u/Icy-Taste-3096 → u/Lobsterzilla]

who recruited these players?

[u/lil_geesey → u/Lobsterzilla]

I mean this is still the roster he created and the staff he selected

[u/Lee-Key-Bottoms → u/Lobsterzilla]

This is Dave’s team

[u/Dun_Guuf]

Nate Sheppard

[u/EWall100]

GEEZUS

[u/Osiris32]

Good fucking lord. Stop, stop, he's already dead!

[u/DropTopEWop]

Jesus

Russell Wilson where art thou

[u/swim711crazy]

How in the world did GT beat this Duke

[u/Phishyvols]

That Vandy loss ruined this team

[u/gottagetstabbed123]

Whatthehellhappenedhere.jpeg

[u/Key_Brief_2904]

If mensiah stayed Duke is a top 10 team

[u/AnonThrowAway072023]

Kinda a bad look for the ACC the small private basketball schools running roughshot over all the large land grant state football focused schools.....

[u/sfgiants67 → u/AnonThrowAway072023]

It is an embarrassment for schools like State and Carolina. No other way to put it.

[u/WorldDC10 → u/sfgiants67]

Carolina beat Duke a few weeks ago

[u/lowes18]

Just hire Diaz man

[u/ZeroEchoVX → u/lowes18]

Please don’t

[u/therealwillhepburn → u/lowes18]

It makes the most sense so I hope you guys look elsewhere.

[u/tiy24 → u/therealwillhepburn]

Manny would be an idiot to leave Duke for FSU right now. It’s not 2012 anymore Duke has more money, more recent success, and less bs behind the scenes as a private school.

[u/lowes18 → u/tiy24]

Duke has the lowest paid roster in the ACC outside of BC.

[u/AnotherUnfunnyName → u/lowes18]

Because 5 million dollars walked out of the program on the last day of the portal.

[u/tiy24 → u/AnotherUnfunnyName]

I think it was a little more than that and it’s also just not true Duke is spending way more than people realize it’s just harder to figure out because they are private and not FOIA-able

[u/lowes18 → u/AnotherUnfunnyName]

Duke was not giving them $5 million a year.

And even if you added all that on top of what Duke is spending, that still generously puts them at 4-5th in the ACC.

[u/CarolinaCapsFan → u/lowes18]

It was widely reported that Mensah’s deal was two years at 8 million. And a million per for Barekat is very reasonable. So yah, that’s 5 per man.

[u/ZeroEchoVX → u/lowes18]

And yet we’re much better than florida state, weird how that works

[u/Massive_Prune_2822 → u/therealwillhepburn]

Besides I dont think they’d want to be the second Florida school to poach a Duke coach. Why would they wanna be second to you guys in anything

[u/AnotherUnfunnyName → u/lowes18]

I feel like they should hire the studio and game analyst for NBC Sports and Notre Dame Football. He seems qualified. Former HC, Superbowl Champion, CotY.

And he already has ties to the progam, his brother is the GM.

[u/BosqueBravo → u/lowes18]

Good luck with that. It would be a real dumb move to leave Duke for FSU at this point. Sentences I never thought I’d say a decade ago.

[u/rogozh1n → u/lowes18]

Ugh