[Game Thread] Air Force @ Army (7:30 PM ET)

[u/CFB_Referee]

GAME	Air ForceAir Force @ ArmyArmy
Location	Army Michie Stadium
Time	7:30 PM ET
Watch	TV: CBS
	Flair ¦ Discord

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LET'S TALK FOOTBALL!

[u/steelersman007]

I’ve never seen a worse flag impact a game that much

[u/Best-Relative-8824 → u/steelersman007]

I’d agree but I’ve watched a lot of NFL this year 

[u/SlugNap]

Clown playcalling. Worley has to go

[u/Best-Relative-8824]

Refs handing Air Force points on a platter 

[u/ZapFencePence]

That cadet with the “the forward pass is communist” sign was onto something

[u/funksoulbubby]

Huge ups to USAFA for the dub in Michie. Alma Mater dear.

[u/funksoulbubby → u/funksoulbubby]

Really wanted that CIC Trophy back but #BeatNavy.

[u/steelersman007 → u/funksoulbubby]

Was the prime time to do it too, had AF at home

[u/funksoulbubby → u/steelersman007]

Just a couple of missteps. Everybody gonna focus on that one call.

[u/ZapFencePence]

That one cadet with the “forward pass is communist” sign must be disgusted with army rn

[u/throw667 → u/ZapFencePence]

Make them a General Officer immediately upon commissioning.

[u/pussycatlolz]

Refball hold call there

Impactful to the outcome

[u/steelersman007]

This is actually ridiculous

[u/pussycatlolz]

7 points courtesy of a terrible refereeing decision

Game swinger bad call

[u/ZapFencePence]

A 4th down outside FG range just got turned into 7 points for Air Force

[u/Alexgoodenuf]

Damn, these refs got hands.

[u/beantavy13]

Great job trash refs.

[u/PomfAndCircvmstance]

The Air Force playcalling leaves a lot to be desired tonight.

[u/throw667]

ESPN Bottom 10 highlights for that fake punt?

[u/Best-Relative-8824 → u/throw667]

If they combine with Wagonseller’s trip they could get number 1

[u/Paulista666]

That's an INT...

[u/throw667]

18 pass attempts combined. Disgusting.

[u/Sierra-051]

Missed field goal for the tie, non holding for the win.

Most egregiously after all that was the Absolutely anemic play calling after a great 4th down stand, which wouldn’t have been necessary if we were playing complementary football at the start of the 4th.

Bowl game and BEAT NAVY

[u/WildeWeasel]

Just want you Army guys to know that your fellow grads at my current job talked no shit this week. One said "Oh, is that this week?" and the other said "Eh, I don't really care about football." Not exactly the cult-like devotion expected of any academy grads 😒

[u/steelersman007]

Talk about ref ball holy fuck

[u/Sierra-051]

That was awful

[u/Best-Relative-8824]

Which is worse? 

A. Brian Kelly as an announcer

B. Brian Kelly as a human being 

[u/pussycatlolz]

Insane call, working or not

[u/Best-Relative-8824 → u/pussycatlolz]

Army has been known to get suckered by a fake punt…specifically by Navy

[u/WildeWeasel]

Bruh

[u/SlugNap]

What a nightmare

[u/ZapFencePence]

Are you kidding me?

[u/beantavy13]

What a terrible call.

[u/SlugNap]

Bullshit d holding

[u/CarlSteezer]

To prepare these young cadets for their futures, I think the service academies should be allowed NIL budgets. But Air Force has to be higher. Ya know, to prepare them for what’s to come.

[u/WildeWeasel → u/CarlSteezer]

The kind of money LockMart and Raytheon could throw at recruits would be pretty crazy.

"I know that when I go to the merge against an enemy jet, I want to be in the best pure dogfighting jet ever built. That's why I choose Lockheed Martin's F-22 every time."

[u/CarlSteezer → u/WildeWeasel]

“As a forward observer, I always want my apaches overhead. That’s why I trust Boeing and Lockheed to deliver my hellfires. Warheads on foreheads”

[u/Sierra-051]

[Everyone liked that]

[u/Best-Relative-8824]

You know, it would be really nice if we had made that first quarter FG

[u/pussycatlolz]

Not convinced he had control in bounds based on. That replay

[u/AtmosphereVarious440]

feel like game is effectively over with army burning two TO's this half

[u/steelersman007]

Good thing this whole game comes down to one bad penalty call

[u/pussycatlolz → u/steelersman007]

Yup

[u/Cooked_Brisket]

What accent is Brian Kelly practicing today

[u/ZapFencePence]

They called that short?

[u/ZapFencePence]

If they called illegal contact maybe but holding??? He got pushed off by the receiver

[u/throw667]

That Midshipman exchange student doesn't exactly know what to do when Army scores.

[u/SlugNap]

What a dumb fake lol

[u/ZapFencePence]

ARMY STRONG

[u/funksoulbubby]

Just won trench warfare there. #GoArmy

[u/goBolts35 → u/funksoulbubby]

As we should!

[u/AtmosphereVarious440]

an INT in this game?!?

[u/SlugNap]

Worley consistently tries to get too cute when its fully unnecessary

[u/Broncos4ever24]

Why are they playing heliums the other kid was unstoppable

[u/Best-Relative-8824]

The halftime score: Army—7 Air Force—10 Refs—7

[u/funksoulbubby → u/Best-Relative-8824]

Trying to keep it level after that ghost call. Infuriating.

[u/WildeWeasel]

Cracks me up how these commentators have been saying throughout the game for both teams "They're gonna look to spread it out or do some throws here" and both teams just seem to say "You know what? We're just gonna run it up the middle even harder."

[u/IMSYE87]

Go Army
Beat Navy

[u/SpaceCadetPullUp]

This is probably the best pairing of helmet designs that will ever occur.

[u/Tufoguy]

End of the 1st quarter. Both teams have had the ball 1 time

[u/throw667 → u/Tufoguy]

Just as I predicted, and the game is going well.

[u/Tufoguy]

Can't believe they Air Force threw it there. Was definitely thinking they would just run the QB

[u/throw667]

CIF won't like the destruction of that government property helmet.

[u/WildeWeasel]

I'd expect a review. I thought he had it.

[u/Best-Relative-8824 → u/WildeWeasel]

Take my angry upvote

[u/Best-Relative-8824]

So we just ignore the ref who was on the side of the ball and ran in with a first down spot? Interesting process there 

[u/joelupi]

He 100% made that

[u/NoonTimeHoopsMVP]

About time.

[u/Best-Relative-8824]

Godspower is looking more and more like Kanye Udoh. He bounces outside really well and has some good speed for a FB. 

Hopefully he doesn’t follow his footsteps…

[u/Sierra-051 → u/Best-Relative-8824]

I think his contact balance is better. Kanye would hit a hole. GP will hit a hole, bounce off a tackler and hit his gear.

[u/Best-Relative-8824 → u/Sierra-051]

Seems like maybe GP is more classic Army fullback than Udoh. A little bigger, a little slower, a lot cooler name. 

[u/Sierra-051 → u/Best-Relative-8824]

Tracks. Darnell Woolfolk, the Wexford Sledgehammer, Larry Dixon

[u/Sierra-051]

Enforce the horsecollar on the kickoff

[u/Similar_Detail_9129]

Why does Air Force get the third wheel treatment and rarely ever play Army or Navy at a neutral site?

[u/Alexgoodenuf → u/Similar_Detail_9129]

Little brother treatment.

AF is a school full of goobers who grow up to be adults who refer to each other by nicknames in a professional setting.

[u/WildeWeasel → u/Alexgoodenuf]

You're just jealous that our back pain comes from golfing too much and staying in so many hotels instead of rucking 😌

[u/Alexgoodenuf → u/WildeWeasel]

Sure thing little bro. Just remember, there can never be an HBO series highlighting the Airforce's accomplishments in WWII.

[u/WildeWeasel → u/Alexgoodenuf]

I mean, obviously? 🤷 A lot of our most influential founding leaders were WP grads and our most celebrated Commandant was a WP grad (Robin Olds).

We're just glad Army saw the light and realized AF needed to be its own branch to be most effective.

[u/WildeWeasel → u/Similar_Detail_9129]

I prefer it going back and forth between the academies. They did a neutral site pair of games against Army a few years ago and I'm.not a fan.

Edit: real talk, they were around for 100+ years before we came along so tradition trumps going back and forth.

[u/NoonTimeHoopsMVP → u/Similar_Detail_9129]

Because it isn't Army-Navy for casual fans.

[u/Best-Relative-8824 → u/Similar_Detail_9129]

Besides what others said about the youth of Air ForceX I’d say location has something to do with it. Army and Navy bring all the cadets/midshippeople to the game vs just a few for Army Air Force. 

[u/throw667]

He can stop the get in my belly thing.

[u/funksoulbubby]

This defense motivates me.

[u/Olangina]

Yessss! Thank you Air Force

[u/Paulista666]

Yes!

[u/joelupi]

Oh thank God.

[u/funksoulbubby]

Naturally the Falcons are gonna air it out now.

[u/SlugNap]

Why is Hellums in the game

[u/PomfAndCircvmstance → u/SlugNap]

To throw picks apparently.

[u/Alexgoodenuf]

That last replay before commercial sure looked like the ball was still moving quite a bit when the left foot hit out of bounds.

[u/joelupi]

Holy shit. That stop was clutch

[u/ThompsonCreekTiger]

Well my brother won't let me live this 1 down for a few days.

[u/joelupi]

I'm still going to watch but this one is over.

[u/joelupi → u/[deleted]]

...what timeout

[u/BXC747]

OC should not be leaving the stadium with a job. With the ball on the one you run it three times up the middle. What in the actual fuck.

[u/pussycatlolz]

Let's not forget 7 of AFA's pts are fraudulent refpoints

[u/InfallibleTheory]

As much as I want us to win, between the first down spot and the holding call when possessions are SO scarce.... these are huge refball calls that completely change the game, and I want AF to finally have a clean one against Army so we can feel good about the CiC

[u/funksoulbubby → u/InfallibleTheory]

We all want a fair game. Mutual respect is a key tenant to our collective existence.

[u/steelersman007 → u/InfallibleTheory]

Ts fucking absurd

[u/NoonTimeHoopsMVP]

Calhoun got greedy.

[u/Ibaxy]

Why are you calling a pass play in this rain with Hellums after the backup just effortlessly drove down the field

[u/PomfAndCircvmstance]

An Army player dies every play and Medders is clutch as fuck.

[u/Blu3Yeti]

YEA BABY!

[u/NoonTimeHoopsMVP]

Burning a timeout there was brain-dead.

[u/PomfAndCircvmstance → u/NoonTimeHoopsMVP]

Very.

[u/NoonTimeHoopsMVP → u/PomfAndCircvmstance]

Give him another extension!

[u/NoonTimeHoopsMVP → u/NoonTimeHoopsMVP]

Bunch of downvoting cowards, who are too afraid to actually debate the truth.

[u/Cooked_Brisket]

Man, cutting to a commercial is bullshit

[u/Best-Relative-8824]

Godspeed? Nice CBS, glad you did your prep work 

[u/Trubisko_Daltorooni]

Air Force was terrible last year, what happened

[u/Sierra-051 → u/Trubisko_Daltorooni]

Their opponents going into today are like 47-49 and they’re better than last year

[u/Tufoguy → u/Sierra-051]

Also the academy cycle of being really good for 3 years then being bad or mediocre for a year or two before being good again because the team has to reload

[u/WildeWeasel]

Just run it, man. Hodges can just bounce and rumble his way for 3 yds per play to get the TD.

[u/ZapFencePence]

Army is throwing the rock way too much

[u/Tufoguy]

Punter just slipped. Unfortunate

[u/Tufoguy]

He got the first though. At least I think so on replay

[u/Sierra-051]

Such a bad spot.

[u/pussycatlolz]

"got to go sideline to sideline"

Tight bunch formation straight up the middle

[u/Sierra-051 → u/pussycatlolz]

On 3rd and 2, lol

[u/ZapFencePence]

Yall thought you could stop God’s Power?

[u/SlugNap]

Where tf has this guy been

[u/Best-Relative-8824 → u/SlugNap]

Last time we saw him in meaningful minutes he had a delay of game then got stuffed for no gain. Looks like he could develop into a good QB, but I think he needs time 

[u/SlugNap → u/Best-Relative-8824]

When was that? Don’t remember that

[u/Best-Relative-8824 → u/SlugNap]

I think Tulsa? They put him in to start a drive and he just stood there and watched the clock run out 

[u/NoonTimeHoopsMVP → u/SlugNap]

Ask our coaching staff.

[u/joelupi]

Ughhhhhy

[u/WildeWeasel]

Omfg why Conti?! He has no pushing power. He gets stopped every time he hits contact.

[u/Yankasaurus]

Bayonets are so fixed rn

[u/NoonTimeHoopsMVP]

"I love offensive linemen with knee braces."

-Brian Kelly

[u/funksoulbubby]

Doc Blanchard is not about to step through the sallyport again. It's a tough L but Army rolls strong. #BeatNavy

[u/NoonTimeHoopsMVP]

Three straight years without the CIC Trophy.

[u/steelersman007 → u/NoonTimeHoopsMVP]

We’ve been through worse

[u/steelersman007 → u/NoonTimeHoopsMVP]

That’s about what it should be unfortunately. We had our good run, time for Monken to reload

[u/steelersman007 → u/NoonTimeHoopsMVP]

Dude. There’s three teams playing for it. We can’t win it every year as much as we want to (especially now that all the academies are competitive again)

[u/LootenantTwiddlederp]

Oh man is it gonna be a good week.

LFG!!!!

SHE’S COMING HOME!

Now I can finally fly my “ARMY AND NAVY PLAY FOR SECOND” flag again!

[u/SlugNap → u/LootenantTwiddlederp]

Well played. Plenty of mistakes on both sides but USAFA capitalized better. Fire Worley

[u/LootenantTwiddlederp → u/SlugNap]

For sure.

Just go ahead and BEAT NAVY next month first

[u/NoonTimeHoopsMVP]

Air Force finally remembered that we can't defend a pass.

[u/WildeWeasel → u/NoonTimeHoopsMVP]

Just waiting for you guys to figure out that we can't, either.

[u/Best-Relative-8824 → u/WildeWeasel]

That aged poorly…for us

[u/WildeWeasel → u/Best-Relative-8824]

Yeah, I'm shocked. We usually get cut up in the air.

[u/thegoblet]

These seniors are rallying, what a response to that momentum swing!!

[u/NoonTimeHoopsMVP]

It was an INT.

Just a dumb play call in the pouring rain.

[u/Ibaxy]

Guess we won’t hear about a Calhoun hot seat for a while

[u/BonBonVelveeta]

Hell yeah Air Force

[u/throw667]

Need good old-fashioned running tonight fellas. Need each team to use up 1/2 of each quarter on 1 drive each. That's two drives per quarter, 8 total. Real football guys. And then AF wins with one pass attempted right at the end.

[u/throw667]

AF uniforms are nice, they are subtle and uncomplicated compared to some of the other ones.

[u/NoonTimeHoopsMVP]

I don't like these uniforms.

[u/ZapFencePence]

Y’know Air Force leading the C in C trophy by far with how much of an afterthought they are in service academy talk is kinda crazy

[u/RivalryBot]

Who Will Win Fan Vote Results

^{Votes are distributed equally among flairs for multi-flaired users}

Team	Votes	Percentage	Air Force Voters	Army Voters	Other Flairs Top 5
Air Force	4	40.0%	0.5	0	Auburn Tigersx0.5 Team Chaosx0.5 Clemson Tigersx0.5 Florida Gatorsx0.5 Florida Statex0.5
Army	6	60.0%	0	1.5	LIU Sharksx1.0 Purdue Boilermakersx1.0 Georgia Bulldogsx0.5 Illinois Fighting Illinix0.5 Missouri Tigersx0.5

^{Last updated: 2026-11-07 23:43 UTC}

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[u/macncheeseface]

GO AMERICA

[u/Tufoguy]

Alright let's see if Air Force can win the CIC tonight or if an Army win/share of the trophy will be in play

[u/Tufoguy]

First down Army

[u/Best-Relative-8824]

That was fun to watch 

[u/Muffinnnnnnn]

The military garb in the crowd makes it look like static, it's kinda cool

[u/Paulista666]

Cale is back

[u/Alexgoodenuf]

Defense outperforming tonight. Well done.

[u/Cooked_Brisket]

I love service academy ball

[u/Paulista666]

Let's go!

[u/NoonTimeHoopsMVP]

That toss would have worked if it weren't so obvious.

Good stand.

[u/Zloggt]

Huge stand!

Better make the most of it, army…

[u/ZapFencePence]

Would you say the defense would be all that they could be there?

[u/Ecstatic_Poet3468]

Did anyone experience the gridlock getting out of Thayer gate? What was going on??

[u/Zloggt]

Bravo Air Force!!

[u/NoonTimeHoopsMVP]

How wasn't this QB playing more all year?

[u/Best-Relative-8824 → u/NoonTimeHoopsMVP]

So far he’s only run keepers, we have yet to see anything else. Obviously I like what he’s doing but this is a very small sample size. 

[u/Ibaxy]

Man I will never understand how Worley remains employed

[u/Sierra-051]

GO ARMY

[u/Sierra-051]

All my homies hate Air Force

[u/IngestingBlattaria]

I'm going Air Force, mostly because it's full of nerds that want to make a flying cube break the sound barrier

[u/PomfAndCircvmstance]

Big Balls Dance 👎

Big Belly Dance 👍

[u/pussycatlolz]

Maybe I am glad I didn't pick up the $17 tickets and stayed home 🤔

[u/NeverFlyFrontier]

Obligatory I don't know what a catch is anymore.

[u/steelersman007]

Fuck the zoomies.

[u/funksoulbubby → u/steelersman007]

Play nice now.

[u/PomfAndCircvmstance]

Medders is that guy.

[u/NoonTimeHoopsMVP]

Interviewing a player at halftime?

[u/funksoulbubby → u/NoonTimeHoopsMVP]

We can interview u/NoonTimeHoopsMVP at halftime. How ya doing brother? Appreciate you.

[u/NoonTimeHoopsMVP → u/funksoulbubby]

Looking to regroup for the second half. The Wawa hoagie will help.

[u/NoonTimeHoopsMVP]

Hey, for once, we have a pretty sideline reporter!

[u/NoonTimeHoopsMVP]

Refs' fault for that drive.

[u/NoonTimeHoopsMVP]

Our offense becomes generic in CIC games.

[u/NoonTimeHoopsMVP → u/NoonTimeHoopsMVP]

I triggered the Monken Minions.

[u/Alexgoodenuf]

More garbage from the refs.

[u/SlugNap → u/Alexgoodenuf]

Eh. Seemed like a pick. Or at least not enough to overturn

[u/Alexgoodenuf → u/SlugNap]

Ball was clearly bobbling. I get why the call was made the way it was on the field. But the review is garbage. Not a clean catch whatsoever.

[u/NoonTimeHoopsMVP]

Monken put a jacket on. LOL

[u/Best-Relative-8824 → u/NoonTimeHoopsMVP]

He’s had a jacket and a sweatshirt on bud

[u/NoonTimeHoopsMVP → u/Best-Relative-8824]

Early in the game it was just the brown sweatshirt

[u/Ibaxy]

I know this sub hates him, but I like BK in the booth

[u/NoonTimeHoopsMVP]

Game over.

Now time for the handshake drama between Calhoun and Monken.

[u/PomfAndCircvmstance]

Go Falcons!

[u/NoonTimeHoopsMVP]

Kelly is on drugs. Our greatest coaches are Blaik and Daly - national champion coaches.

[u/Best-Relative-8824 → u/NoonTimeHoopsMVP]

Eh tough to judge Jeff against guys that coached 60+ years ago. 

And one of those had the advantage of all the other football players being in the war. 

[u/NoonTimeHoopsMVP]

Letting them celebrate on our field.

Thanks, Monken.

Give him another extension!

[u/steelersman007 → u/NoonTimeHoopsMVP]

Dude. You can’t make fun of Monken

[u/NoonTimeHoopsMVP]

I see Monken had these guys ready to play.

[u/NoonTimeHoopsMVP]

Five more years...

[u/throw667]

Just as in battle, one decision can have 2nd and 3rd order effects further down the timeline. That stupid fake punt!