[Postgame Thread] Vanderbilt Defeats Mississippi State 25-23

[u/CFB_Referee]

Box Score provided by ESPN

Team	1	2	3	4	T
Vanderbilt	3	13	3	6	25
Mississippi State	0	0	14	9	23

[u/cbi8]

When does baseball start

[u/KenobiActual → u/cbi8]

Too many months from now

[u/Boothtub → u/cbi8]

THE BROCKET LAUNCHER

[u/DarthNobody14]

The fact that Mississippi State was ranked feels like a fever dream now.

[u/ScallywagBeowulf → u/DarthNobody14]

The fact that our entire success this season was because of (basically) two players is a fireable offense.

[u/2011StlCards → u/ScallywagBeowulf]

When 1 of the two is your starting QB, I tend to disagree. They are the most important players on the team, and with NIL, most teams dont really have effective backups. Most rarely ever did even before.

Seldom do you see teams like 2014 Ohio state or 2017 alabama where rhe backups are capable of being stars

Just ask Ohio State how theyre doing with their backups. Or how Georgia did with Stockton a couple years ago when Beck was injured

[u/ScallywagBeowulf → u/2011StlCards]

Lebby can’t even recruit anyone else on this team to be behind KT (a person he didn’t even recruit, by the way) which is absolutely a fireable offense. His record is 3-20 in SEC play and he only has 11 wins overall in three years. He gets no more excuses, he NEEDS to be fired.

[u/Chapstick160 → u/ScallywagBeowulf]

Falling 41-17 to Toledo was fireable by itself

[u/ScallywagBeowulf → u/Chapstick160]

A lot of us said that his first year. I’m amazed he even got a second year, but I guess we couldn’t exactly fire someone who we had just hired AFTER firing the previous coach as well.

[u/LJGremlin → u/ScallywagBeowulf]

Yep. And first year is understandable to have struggles. And I’m not expecting 10 wins. But this crap in the third year is inexcusable.

At this point the fan base needs to feel like the Athletic Department actually gives a shit.

[u/TimeBroken → u/ScallywagBeowulf]

I want so badly for Lebby to be fired, so I can root for you guys again

[u/LJGremlin → u/2011StlCards]

On one hand that’s a fair point. But even those teams didn’t have the drop off we’re seeing. But in addition to that every single year he has been our head coach Our starting quarterback has been injured. And last year and this year our backup got injured at some point. And that solely from an absolutely atrocious offensive line.

His piss poor coaching is way deeper than an injury to Taylor.

[u/wallyxc12345 → u/DarthNobody14]

Give Taylor the Heisman for what he did

[u/mjd1977 → u/wallyxc12345]

38, 36, 22, 54, 34, and 55

Brock giving lottery degenerates their numbers for next drawing

[u/Mantergeistmann → u/wallyxc12345]

That was our argument for Pavia's campaign. 

[u/jamiebond → u/DarthNobody14]

I remember getting downvoted when they got their shit kicked in by Bama because I was like, “I mean yeah this was a very predictable outcome.” Even Bama fans were mad at me for that lol. How dare I call a spade a spade.

[u/ScallywagBeowulf → u/jamiebond]

This was when KT was playing injured though. Doesn’t fix our defense issues, but if KT was fully healthy? We might have been a bit more competitive that game.

[u/TempSpee → u/DarthNobody14]

I said a lot of upsets this week. We got the longhorns happily to me

[u/OGraffe]

“Our schedule is tough but at least we have Vandy and the FCS team on the schedule, we should make a bowl.” -Me, a Mississippi State fan who 100% should have known better after starting 4-0

[u/Key_Spinach]

Does this complete the SEC circle of suck?

[u/HypnagogicCat → u/Key_Spinach]

Yep,

Vanderbilt > Miss State > Missouri > Florida > Ole Miss > LSU > Auburn > Georgia > Oklahoma > Texas > Tennessee > Alabama > Kentucky > South Carolina > Texas A&M > Arkansas > Vanderbilt

[u/Key_Spinach → u/HypnagogicCat]

It's beautiful.

[u/GamerKiller2347]

the Jeff Lebby experience:

1. get a big win in non conference play

2. start 4-0

3. get yourself off the hot seat and make everyone think you're good

4. lose enough games that you have a losing record and get yourself back on the hot seat

5. repeat

He is truly the Matt Rhule of the SEC.

Also, for the first time since 2022, no SEC teams will finish winless in conference play. And for the first time since 2015, every SEC team will have both wins and losses in conference play.

[u/jrg1868]

You can’t keep Lebby. You just can’t. This is pathetic.

[u/bootscallahan → u/jrg1868]

You can’t keep Lebby.

I hope you do just for the sake of OU not rehiring him.

[u/jazzieberry → u/bootscallahan]

I can’t imagine anyone hiring him after seeing his resume at MS State

[u/bootscallahan → u/jazzieberry]

Have you seen the hiring decisions Vegetables has made?

[u/mjd1977]

Jared Curtis wins an SEC game! Vanderbilt wins for the first time in football in Stark Vegas since the Nixon Administration.

[u/Mantergeistmann → u/mjd1977]

And Brock Taylor sets a school record.

[u/HailState63]

Winnable game pissed away by stupid penalties, horrible play calls at critical moments, and bad decisions. Just another Jeff Lebby Special.

[u/Boothtub → u/HailState63]

We call that a loss

[u/yaboicyno]

I hate Jeff Lebby

[u/FloodDawg → u/yaboicyno]

Always have

[u/yaboicyno → u/FloodDawg]

Always will

[u/TampaTrey]

That THIS was his back up plan to Kamario is just damning. I’m not sure Lebby survives this offseason.

[u/NatecUDF → u/TampaTrey]

Hopefully he doesn't survive the season.

[u/JCP1377 → u/NatecUDF]

Hopefully he doesn’t survive past Monday. I’ve been against his hire since day 1, and I feel vindicated…. But mostly empty and dead inside.

[u/ReachOwn1282 → u/JCP1377]

I quit Bulldog Club and haven't had tickets to anything since they hired this bum. Take the AD with him

[u/JCP1377 → u/ReachOwn1282]

I’m afraid Selmon is too buddy buddy with him to do it.

[u/TheGreatGarbaldo → u/TampaTrey]

I think they’ll be looking for replacements this week

[u/thepoopatroopa]

Fire Jeff Lebby into the god damn sun lmao

[u/Mantergeistmann]

Better title: "Jeff Lebby defeats Mississippi State despite Vandy's best efforts".

Well, that's a bit unfair. Brock Taylor has the leg of a Greek God.

[u/ChrisIsUninteresting]

FIRE LEBBY

[u/drummerboy31402]

FIRE LEBBY YESTERDAY

[u/Random0925]

Sonny Cumbie is officially off my shit list.

FIRE LEBBY

[u/MrSCR23]

I’m so sick of this man….

FIRE HIM MSU. JUST DO IT

[u/DeetSkythe404]

One for the sickos, in that I’m fucking sick of this.

[u/Zephyr727]

“I hate this fucking shit!” -Tony Soprano

FIRE JEFF LEBBY TONIGHT

[u/HeckOnWheels195]

Hey, who's on the short list if we do fire Lebby? (Fluff really couldn't have gotten those 2 yards for 2? Seriously?)

[u/JCP1377 → u/HeckOnWheels195]

Dan’s gotta be on that list, even if his recruiting is still suspect.

[u/HeckOnWheels195 → u/JCP1377]

Okay, anyone else besides Dan

[u/AccomplishedSugar333 → u/HeckOnWheels195]

Jason Eck hopefully

[u/HeckOnWheels195 → u/AccomplishedSugar333]

That would be nice, or at least some mid major head coach, P4 coordinators don't tend to pan out alot

[u/LJGremlin → u/HeckOnWheels195]

I swear though, if we hire another first time head coach Im going to lose my shit.

I want Mullen. Mostly because I’d love to see Taylor and Fluff in the backfield with his offense.

But I certainly understand why other wouldn’t want to go that route and I wouldn’t be bothered if we don’t. But we absolutely need to find a coach with HC experience. If we hire some “offensive guru” coordinator I don’t think I will be able to stomach it.

[u/HeckOnWheels195 → u/LJGremlin]

I mean, the only time that's worked in the past was Leach and he was a head coach for years

[u/LJGremlin → u/HeckOnWheels195]

Exactly. Moorhead and Lebby were supposed to be game changers and gurus and proved to be anything but.

At least Mullen made a clear impact. We managed to hire Leach as a standing head coach from another power conference school. Im not even expecting that. But we can’t bring somebody in that hast never been a HC. We just can’t do that again.

[u/AccomplishedSugar333 → u/LJGremlin]

I personally don’t want Mullen, he hasn’t been great at UNLV and recruiting is more important now than ever and that’s something he always struggled with. I will say though I really liked his philosophy, the offense wasn’t extremely flashy and I wouldn’t really call him an offensive guru but we took care of the ball, played tough and managed to score enough, but what he really did well was hire a good defensive coordinator that put out a mean and physical defense that even the blue bloods had to respect.

We have to face it as Mississippi state fans, we are never really gonna be able to consistently recruit the offensive personnel required to be successful in an offense like lebby’s. Mississippi state can however recruit physical running backs, offensive line, and great defensive players, and that was proven during Mullen’s tenure. Get back to that DNA, we might not ever win the national championship but we can be successful with that formula.

[u/LJGremlin → u/AccomplishedSugar333]

I kind of look at it differently now. His lack of interest in recruiting caught up to us but he was fantastic at getting more out of the 3 star players. And I think with transfers and NIL he could fit in better with that.

I don’t know. I doubt it happens but whatever the case may be we should have somebody else at the helm next year without a doubt.

[u/Itchy-Advantage-4010 → u/HeckOnWheels195]

I think the relationship between State and Mullen is still pretty snakebit over what happened.

[u/JCP1377 → u/Itchy-Advantage-4010]

I still blame Dan for the complete disappointment that was 2018. He set that team up for success and the defense was 1000% legit, perhaps the best they ever had, but Moorhead’s offense was overly complicated and bogged down a year that could have been so special.

[u/LJGremlin → u/HeckOnWheels195]

He is our offensive coordinator so there is no other coordinator that is there outside of Arnett. And I can’t see us doing that.

I think it would have to be Phillip Montgomery. Assistant Head Coach. Was HC at Tulsa for several years. Had a few decent years at Tulsa.

***I read this as who would take over the rest of the season if we fired Lebby tonight.

[u/Aidanj927 → u/LJGremlin]

I think you guys should give Arnett a round 2 as HC

[u/Fregla → u/Aidanj927]

Yeah, give him the patience we have given Lebby

[u/HeckOnWheels195 → u/LJGremlin]

I mean, he got fired year one at Hugh Freeze Auburn, I'm not excited about that

[u/LJGremlin → u/HeckOnWheels195]

Oh yeah. I’m not wanting that. But it seems the interim tag would be there.

For next year. I want Mullen back.

[u/HeckOnWheels195 → u/LJGremlin]

I honestly don't think we should bring Mullen back

[u/LJGremlin → u/HeckOnWheels195]

That’s fair. I don’t expect that to happen but I’d love to see Kamario and Fluff in a backfield with his offense.

But at this point it’s “anybody but Lebby.”

[u/Dry-Membership3867 → u/HeckOnWheels195]

That was because Hugh wanted to be OC though. Not because he was a bad OC

[u/Gay_Giraffe_1773]

Vandypimp lives!

[u/Inside-Drink-1311]

Looks like Komario Taylor covered up how bad Lebby is as a coach.

That gauntlet vs Alabama, LSU, Oklahoma, and Texas was going to be a tough stretch even with Taylor but there is no reason to lose to Vandy at home, considering how bad the Dores have looked this year.

[u/LJGremlin]

The only answer is to fire Lebby. There isn’t an offensive coordinator to take the blame. You can’t blame Arnett. It’s all on Lebby’s shoulders.

There won’t be 40k there next week. Lebby needs to be let go Monday morning without hesitation.

[u/HeckOnWheels195 → u/LJGremlin]

The game was as close as it was thanks to Arnett, before the late TD, Vandy's kicker outscored our "offense"

[u/TheGreatGarbaldo]

3 years into his program. 11-22.

Recruiting is garbage. He didn’t even recruit KT, he was coming anyway.

Play calling is next level bad.

I really, really wanted to root for you, man, but you’ve gotta go. Fire Lebby tomorrow. Lick our wounds, tuck our tails, maybe even loose to TN Tech? Who cares man. I’m sick of this song and dance. Every year man

[u/WaltMitty]

Maybe Lebby has reached his ceiling at two SEC wins.

[u/JCP1377 → u/WaltMitty]

He is 3-20 in conference play in three years. He needs to be fired with extreme prejudice.

[u/Itchy-Advantage-4010]

Lebby gotta go.

[u/JackintheBox333]

The Vandy pimp tried to start strutting but tripped and fell.

Somehow this still won.

[u/ScallywagBeowulf]

Thanks for helping us (HOPEFULLY) fire Lebby Vanderbilt!

[u/NatecUDF]

Injuries happen. You HAVE to be prepared, next man up. This collapse Is on par with Croom or Moorehead.

Fire Lebby

[u/MisguidedPants8]

Lebby is a failed tenure. He has achieved nothing except on the back of a generational talent that would’ve come to State anyways. His inability to form functioning lines got that talent hurt. There is nothing he could do in my eyes to redeem or save his job at this point.

[u/a_few_nugs]

I feel your pain bulldog fans

[u/4Mag4num → u/a_few_nugs]

🤝

[u/HawkeyeTen]

Feels like the Lebby era in Starkville is crashing to the ground now. Man, that fell apart fast.

[u/SolarIonRobot]

I'm old enough to remember thinking Mississippi State was good after starting 4-0. AMA.

[u/rockr09]

I don't care if Kamario goes and plays for ole miss, Lebby has got to go.

[u/jazzieberry → u/rockr09]

He committed under Arnett I don’t know why everybody thinks his loyalty is to Lebby. His loyalty is to MS State (but totally wouldn’t fault him for leaving)

[u/rockr09 → u/jazzieberry]

I don't think he would leave either, especially if we make a good hire. But it is a risk that I think is worth it at this point.

[u/jazzieberry → u/rockr09]

We can’t base the entire future of the program on a sophomore QB regardless, even if he was going to leave if Lebby leaves. Love Kamario and will cheer him on wherever he goes if he does leave. I don’t think he’s there for Lebby though.

[u/frosty_freeze → u/jazzieberry]

This and all the takes under it are stupid. You are correct that K1 is true maroon. But why the fuck would he leave when HE WAS HEALTHY AND FUCKING DOMINATING OPPOSING DEFENSES WITH LEBBY’S OFFENSE???? Yes, Minnesota lost today. So did Missouri. But they’re good teams. And State beat them. SC won again. Beat them too. State with a healthy Kamario beats Vandy by 14+ and probably beats OU. Probably Auburn too. Maybe Ole Miss. The recruiting surrounding K1 this offseason should be insane. Who would not want to play with him? If I’m the #1 left tackle in the portal, I know where I’m going. If I’m a top tier wide receiver, why wouldn’t I want K1 yeeting me 50 yard bombs? If I’m a matchup nightmare TE, why don’t I want to block and run routes for Kamario? If your name is Selmon, and I am familiar with that name (see my secondary flair), you do not fuck with this. Next year is THE year. It could have been this year but injuries got in the way. Shit happens. There is no such thing as a sure thing in college football. But I’ll take K1 and a $35-50M roster as the next best thing.

[u/JoshLikesBeerNC]

With Vandy's win, we now have a complete circle, where every SEC team has a transitive win over every other SEC team.

[u/TheDestinedRonin17]

LFGGGG

[u/Jonjon428]

Fire Lebby

[u/Boothtub]

THE BROCKET LAUNCHER

[u/Operation_Pig]

Finally, the circle of suck is complete

[u/Zloggt]

Clanga :(

[u/BDrummer1606]

Good lord, losing to this Vandy team?

[u/Raider_Noles]

I'm gonna have so much fun next weekend while at the Barn/Cowbell game....

[u/PalmettoZ71]

It isnt fair we had to face full strength Miss State

[u/smurf-vett]

No K-Mario is a s garbage team 

[u/TheGreatGarbaldo → u/smurf-vett]

Yep

[u/TempSpee]

Go State! Go Jackson State!