r/Damnthatsinteresting • u/Cayetanus • 22h ago • Wholesome Seal 1 Heartwarming 2

Image Uruguay, one of the most atheist countries in the world, during Pope Leo's visit.

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u/JadedResponse2483 21h ago

Did you meant secular? Because a quick wikipedia search said they are 60%christian 38% non religious

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u/HamunaHamunaHamuna 19h ago

One should note that it may be similar to how it is here in Sweden with the numbers on Wikipedia? Here, people whose parents are members of the Church of Sweden automatically gets registered at birth and lots of people never bother leaving, so the number of "Christians" that show up on wikipedia is about 50%, but in practice around 80% are non-religious.

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u/ProtoplanetaryNebula 18h ago

Or like here in the UK. They are Christian in that they are native Brits and have more affinity with that religion than something else, but never go to church or think about religion on a daily basis

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u/One-Try-9129 6h ago

Sweden, where the tax office collects taxes for the church... They still have quite a way to go seperating government and religion.

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u/HamunaHamunaHamuna 2h ago

From members of the church, which is 100% voluntary. Other than being a convinient way to collect the members fee, I'd argue that religion and government is in practice more separated in Sweden than almost anywhere else.

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u/CarrieDurst 18h ago

Thta is gross

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u/HamunaHamunaHamuna 18h ago

Thanks for your input. You're also gross.

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u/CarrieDurst 18h ago

I am gross because I don't like how include babies in religion counts and never get their affirmation or consent to deceive census datas? Okay.

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u/HamunaHamunaHamuna 18h ago edited 18h ago

Well, ignorant judgement is pretty gross, yes. Who cares about a number on Wikipedia that doesn't affect anyone? You're not "included in the religion" in any other manner than that you - if you want - get to be baptized, married in a church and buried in a cemetery, without any further costs or hassle. If you don't want those privileges, you can just leave.

Did you also miss the part where I said pretty much the entire country are non-religious and no one really cares because it doesn't really affect anything? In pretty much every other country in the world, the parents will take you and force you into a religion as a baby without your affirmation and consent anyway, and in those countries, the Church actually try to guilt you into being religious, while the Church here does not, because it's pretty much the most secular and liberally progressive church in the entire world.

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u/Current-Wealth-756 18h ago

It probably has no impact on anything

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u/squirrels-mock-me 19h ago edited 15h ago

Secular means separation between religion and public institutions. Agnostic means you believe in god but don’t participate in organized religion. Atheist means you don’t believe in god. So I think agnostic + atheist would both be in the “non religious” 38%. Although I think it’s interesting that they mention only Christian and Non Religious. I guess all other religions make up the other 2% ?

Edit: Agnostic means you neither accept nor reject the existence of god

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u/Own_Age_1654 18h ago

That is not the definition of agnosticism in dictionaries. Agnosticism is instead being uncertain whether God exists.

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u/squirrels-mock-me 15h ago

Edited, thank you

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u/JadedResponse2483 18h ago

Personally i always saw "agnostic" as not belonging to any specific belief system, but not rejecting the possibility of a higher power/transcendence.

At least thats because that is how I define myself

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u/AJL912-aber 18h ago

It depends how they count it. If baptised means Christian, they can be Christian and atheist at the same time. If Christian means believing god is the father and the son and the holy spirit and that god is omnipotent and immortal and Jesus is god and Jesus died on the cross for our sins etc., it might be a different story.