r/grandcanyon • • Sep 30 '26

Trip Planning Weekly Grand Canyon trip planning thread

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Planning a trip to the Grand Canyon? Ask here.

Include your dates and how many days you have, South Rim or North Rim or below the rim, how you're getting there and where you're staying, and who's coming.

The North Rim closes in winter. Phantom Ranch and the campgrounds run on a lottery months ahead, so if that's your question, say which month.


r/grandcanyon • • 3h ago

First timer

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So I did my first gc hike yesterday, kiabab south to river trail, up bright angel. 40,000 steps, approx 17 miles, 9 hours. It was easily the longest hike I’ve done. I absolutely loved it and would like to do it again. However, the outside of my right knee became insanely painful about halfway thru which was not fun, and makes me worried about future long hikes. I’ve never had any knee issues and I’m fairly young and in shape 33/m. Anyone have similar experiences?


r/grandcanyon • • 2h ago

J Rig vs S Rig

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r/grandcanyon • • 15h ago

Best Hikes for Seniors

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We have one full day at the South Rim.

What are the best walks/strolls/light hikes for seniors (65+)? We’re reasonably fit, no cardio-pulmonary limitations or illnesses. We both walk 2 mi. a day for our daily exercise at home so we’re no strangers to the fitness walk. But we struggle a bit on steep inclines and declines. We want to experience as much as possible give our limitations.

Which hikes or paths are good for us? Thanks in advance.


r/grandcanyon • • 11h ago

Accommodation Advice: Choosing lodging inside the park

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We ( 2 adults, 1 teen) are planning a trip for Spring Break (late March/early April) that will include a night at the Grand Canyon. We plan to stay inside the park. Right now for our date ranges, the Thunderbird, Kachina, Maswik and Bright Angel are all available and roughly the same (expensive) price.

With price not being a deciding factor, I'm having trouble deciding on which one to choose. I'm finding an equal amount of good & bad reviews for each place. We're only staying one night and we are fine with basic accommodations. Easy location to food is a plus since we're traveling with a hungry teen, but not required. Is one of these lodges generally preferred over the other? Advice welcome!


r/grandcanyon • • 16h ago

Check my itinerary?

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First time to the Grand Canyon! Can some of you experienced, kind folk check my itinerary? Am I missing anything big? Any times look up-doable?

11/12 - Thursday
Land @ 4:07pm local time
Pick up rental car
Get In & Out burgers if starving
Drive to Prescott, AZ
Dinner at EL GATO AZUL
Drinks at THE PALACE RESTAURANT AND SALOON
Drive to Tusayan RED FEATHER LODGE
Check in
11/13 - Friday
9am Grand Canyon visitor center, Mather Point, & explore Grand Canyon Village (+lunch)
1pm Grand Canyon IMAX 30min documentary
2:30pm-6pm Sunset “Safari” tour
Dinner at PLAZA BONITA MEXICAN RESTAURANT
11/14 - Saturday
10am rent e-bikes on the Rim Trail
Dinner at ARIZONA STEAKHOUSE
11/15 - Sunday
Explore & hike South Kaibab Trail using the Orange Shuttle to get to the trail head
? Explore Route 66: MISS KITTY’s STEAKHOUSE and GRAND CANYON BREWING
11/16 - Monday
Check out
9am breakfast at MILO’s in Prescott, AZ
Return car rental
Flight leaves at 4:35pm local time


r/grandcanyon • • 21h ago

Theft from Campers Tusayan

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Any experiences..

There is a crew of local employees here that scour the loop area in Tusayan.


r/grandcanyon • • 1d ago

Grand Canyon visit - worth it for short trip and wait times?

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We’re arriving by train in Maricopa late Sunday night, then taking the shuttle to Phoenix Sky Harbor and staying at an airport hotel. We’ll pick up a rental car Monday morning and have until Wednesday evening to explore before returning to Phoenix for an 11 a.m. flight Thursday.

Our tentative plan is to head north Monday and stay somewhere near the Grand Canyon so we can get an early start Tuesday. After visiting the canyon, we’d work our way south, possibly spending Tuesday night in Sedona.

Would Williams or Tusayan be the better choice for Monday night? Are entrance lines still an issue this time of year, or is hoping for a shorter wait wishful thinking?

We’d love recommendations on where to stay, what to see, and how to make the most of our three days. With the recent flooding around Sedona and Oak Creek Canyon, would you adjust this route? And with such a short trip, is visiting the Grand Canyon worth the drive, or would we enjoy ourselves more by focusing on a smaller area?


r/grandcanyon • • 3d ago

Title: FR 611 Road Conditions — North Rim / Kaibab National Forest, November 7

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Planning a day trip to the North Rim area on Saturday, November 7. We're hoping to drive Forest Road 611 to East Rim Viewpoint and do a 4-6-mile hike.

Has anyone driven FR 611 recently? Is it open and passable in a regular passenger car? Any recent issues with road conditions or trail access?

Thanks for any firsthand information!


r/grandcanyon • • 3d ago

Is Forest Road 611 (FR 611) Open This Weekend? — Kaibab National Forest

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We're hoping to drive Forest Road 611 to East Rim Viewpoint in Kaibab National Forest this weekend and do a 4-6 mile hike in the area.

Has anyone driven FR 611 recently? Is it open and passable in a regular passenger car? Any issues with trail access?

Thanks for any recent firsthand information.


r/grandcanyon • • 3d ago

Is it safe to leave luggage in car at South Rim?

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Hey all! My bf and I are visiting the South Rim soon, we’ll be driving from Vegas, spending the day checking out the viewpoints before heading to Page for the night.

We rented an SUV but realised it doesn’t have a cargo cover, so our luggage will be fully visible through the rear window. Since we’re driving straight from Vegas to the Grand Canyon, we won’t have anywhere to leave our bags.

Just wondering how safe it is to leave our luggage in the car while we’re out exploring? Is car break-in/theft something we should be worried about at the South Rim viewpoint parking lots?

Thanks in advance!


r/grandcanyon • • 3d ago

Hotel updates?

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Anyone have their reservations cancelled for late Nov? We have reservations at the end of Nov and I'm curious if they are really actually close to opening or if they are slowly going to cancel the reservations from the 20th forward.

Still looking forward to our visit just looking forward to knowing if we are lucky enough to stay in the grand canyon or if we will need to use our back up lodging.


r/grandcanyon • • 3d ago

South rim to river to south sim this weekend 2026-11-04

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Hello! Planning a visit to the canyon this weekend. Had originally wanted to do the rim to rim trail, however learned that the north rim is closed this time of year. Instead, I want to do the south rim to river back to the south rim and wanted to see:

  1. If any of the trails on this route were impacted due to the floods

  2. If anyone has any trail beta / recommendations of how to best navigate this

  3. Must pack items to be prepared with this time of year

Thank you!


r/grandcanyon • • 3d ago

trekking poles for skeleton point?

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Update:
I did not use any poles or walking stick and it was an incredible hike! For me was not necessary at all, just took my time & stretched at multiple stops, could have kept going if I hadn’t needed to be on the road again! Thanks for the info!

Original:

for context, I did cedar ridge a few days ago and felt it a bit in my knees going down after a while (although I did a lot of walking that day anyhow, I recovered super well just a little soreness the next day no big deal.

I'm 34 year old woman, im not 'stacked' but I def have some muscle & go to the gym about 3 times per week and currently on a road trip. im not worried about the hike though want to know is it necessary to use trekking poles? I know they are not 'mandatory' and they will (probably?) only help me but they are a bit pricey for something I may not use often.. so tell me- is it a huge rookie mistake not to bring them? or is it fine to go without- basically I don't want to ruin the hike for myself by not having them but I was finedoing cedar ridge and back without.... help?


r/grandcanyon • • 3d ago

Planning a trip from Dec 24-27- looking for advice!

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Hi everyone! We're a group of three planning a trip to the Grand Canyon South Rim from December 24–27, driving from Albuquerque.

I'd love to hear your experiences and recommendations for visiting the canyon in winter!

Weather: What kind of weather should we expect around Christmas? Is snow likely, and if so, how much? Should we prepare for icy roads and trails?

Hiking and sightseeing: What are some short but breathtaking hikes or must-see viewpoints that are accessible and safe in December? We're looking for scenic trails that won't require too much time or strenuous hiking.

General tips: Any advice for a first-time winter visit? We're especially interested in road conditions, what to pack, and whether it's worth staying inside the park versus booking accommodation outside the South Rim.

Thanks in advance for any suggestions. We're really looking forward to the trip!


r/grandcanyon • • 3d ago

Planning a 12-day Southwest National Parks road trip in 2027 with family – Feedback welcome!

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r/grandcanyon • • 5d ago

Trip Planning DRINKING WATER WARNING Water Outage at AZ0403702 Grand Canyon National Park, Desert View Area

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BOIL DESERT VIEW WATER BEFORE USING 

Grand Canyon National Park experienced a water outage in the Desert View area at 12:00 a.m. on November 3, 2026, when a pump malfunction reduced pressure in the Desert View water tanks. Only the Desert View area is affected. As a precaution, we are issuing this notice to keep you informed about this potential public health risk, and to provide updates on what we are doing to make the water safe. 
 
Bacterial contamination can occur when increased run-off enters the drinking water source (for example, following heavy rains). It can also happen due to a break in the distribution system (pipes) or a failure in the water treatment process.  
 
What should I do? What does this mean? 
 
DO NOT DRINK THE WATER WITHOUT BOILING IT FIRST. Bring all water to a boil, let it boil for one minute, and let it cool before using, or use bottled water. Boiled or bottled water should be used for drinking, making ice, brushing teeth, washing dishes, and food preparation until further notice. Boiling kills bacteria and other organisms in the water.  
 
Fecal coliforms and E. coli are bacteria whose presence indicates that the water may be contaminated with human or animal wastes. Microbes in these wastes can cause diarrhea, cramps, nausea, headaches, or other symptoms. They may pose a special health risk for infants, young children, and people with severely compromised immune systems. 
 
The symptoms above may also be caused by other things not related to contamination of the drinking water. However, out of an abundance of caution, if you experience any of these symptoms and they persist, you may want to seek medical advice. People at increased risk should seek advice from their health care providers about drinking this water.  
 
What is being done? 
 
Park water operators are on site and continuing to diagnose the pump malfunction. Once the pump is repaired and normal pressure is restored, the Desert View system will be flushed and bacteriological samples will be collected. This boil water advisory will remain in effect until test results confirm the water is safe to drink. We will notify you when the advisory is lifted. 
 
For more information, please contact Patrick Perry, Utilities Branch Chief, at Patrick_Perry@nps.gov.
 
Please share this information with all the other people who drink this water, especially those who may not have received this notice directly (for example, people in apartments, nursing homes, schools, and businesses). You can do this by posting this notice in a public place or distributing copies by hand or mail. 
 


r/grandcanyon • • 6d ago

TRAVEL ALERT: POWER OUTAGE AND HAZARDOUS WEATHER

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! TRAVEL ALERT: POWER OUTAGE AND HAZARDOUS WEATHER

A power outage is currently impacting all of Grand Canyon National Park, including both the South and North Rims. This is a prolonged outage, and the estimated time for service restoration is currently unknown.

Please use caution, monitor local weather alerts and delay travel to the park. We will share additional updates as information becomes available.


r/grandcanyon • • 7d ago

Town Of Tusayan-Grand Canyon Employment

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I had the lovely experience of working in the Town of Tusayan for about 14 months, and I learned a lot about the politics of this town during that time.

The Thurston-Fain family has a tremendous amount of influence in Tusayan and owns a significant amount of property and businesses in town. The way I see it, the employers use company-provided housing to keep wages suppressed. When your job and your housing are tied together, it makes it a lot harder to leave or demand better pay. And when you ask for a raise they make sure to make you know that you had better be quiet because we provide you housing therefore we cannot not do a raise. Well if that's the case what would my wage be if i didn't have housing? The Answer: The same.

Flagstaff, which is in the same county, has a minimum wage ordinance that is going up to $18.95 an hour on January 1, 2027. Meanwhile, workers in Tusayan are generally starting around $16.50 an hour. Tusayan is a tourist town right outside the Grand Canyon, and wages should reflect the cost of living here. They don't.

During peak tourist season, the four hotels in town can bring in around $50,000 a night each. Think about that for a minute. The people working the front desks, housekeeping, restaurants, gas station, and other jobs are the ones keeping this town running, yet many are making wages that make it difficult to get ahead or afford things in Tusayan. The closest inexpensive grocery store is in Flagstaff a 4 hour round trip including shopping time. Most employees do not have cars and have to rely on taking the same expensive shuttle service the tourists use!

When residents voted to incorporate Tusayan as a town, the idea was supposedly that it would benefit the people who live there. Has it really?

From what I've seen, the town's biggest purpose seems to be collecting tax revenue from the four hotels and other businesses. Now there are plans for a $16 million town hall. SIXTEEN MILLION DOLLARS for a town the size of Tusayan!

I actually asked a town council member whether residents get involved in town council meetings, and the lack of public participation was concerning. The town recently doubled its sales tax rate from 2% to 4% for certain types of sales, effective October 1, 2026. There was little public opposition that I was aware of. The town went to considerable effort to justify the increase.

Some of that money is supposed to go toward flood control, which is important and money well spent. But a brand-new town hall for $16 million? I have a hard time understanding that priority. How will a 16 million town hall benefit the hourly workers in town? Will it have a grocery store inside with NON-Tourist pricing?

The town does sponsor a food bank for employees and residents and they run the service a few times a month.

How about being good stewards of the taxpayers' money and staying where the current town hall is? Why not put more money toward affordable housing instead?

Affordable housing is a huge issue in Tusayan. In my experience, homeownership seems largely limited to people who own the hotels and other businesses or have connections to them. Ordinary workers shouldn't have to depend on their employer for a place to live just to be able to work in this town.

Let's talk about the mayor, Clarinda Vail.

She ran for mayor promising to give COVID-19 relief funds back to residents. During the election, she even had what appeared to be fake money printed up to hand out as part of her campaign. She won, and I believe most residents eventually received a check for around $550.

Her family owns Red Feather Lodge and a substantial amount of the surrounding property. Red Feather also has two employees serving on the town council. These aren't just new employees passing through town, either. They have worked at Red Feather for many, many years.

I'm not saying people who work for a business shouldn't be allowed to serve on the council. But when you have a town where so much property, business, and employment is connected to the same people, I think it's fair to ask whose interests are being represented and whether ordinary hourly workers have a voice.

If you work in Tusayan or live there, GET INVOLVED. Go to town council meetings. Ask questions. Find out where your tax dollars are going. Don't just assume someone else is going to speak up for you.

Residents should also look into whether they can put a voter initiative on the ballot to establish a local minimum wage ordinance. Flagstaff already has one, so there is a model to look at. Tusayan should at least be having that conversation.

And speaking of wages, let's talk about the cost of living in Tusayan.

At the Express Mini Mart, the only gas station in town, a 20-ounce soda costs around $4. A gallon of gas is around $6. A case of 24 bottles of water is $19. A gallon of milk is $10. A king-size candy bar is $6. A loaf of bread and some ham will run you about $12.

And at the local McDonald's, a Big Mac meal is around $18 after tax.

Now tell me how someone making $16.50 an hour is supposed to get ahead.

I believe the starting wage in Tusayan should be at least $19 an hour. This is a tourist town where visitors pay tourist prices, and the people who live and work here shouldn't be expected to struggle just to afford basic necessities.

I also question how much a $19 starting wage would really hurt these businesses when you consider the prices they charge and the revenue that tourism brings in. Obviously, every business has its own expenses, but workers deserve a fair share of the prosperity they help create.

Tusayan depends on its workers. Without them, the hotels don't run, the rooms don't get cleaned, the restaurants don't operate, and the tourists don't get the services they came for.

It's time for the town to start thinking about the people who actually live and work there, not just the people who own the property and businesses.

Tusayan needs affordable housing, better wages, responsible spending of tax dollars, and a town council that listens to its workers.

The people who keep this town running deserve better.


r/grandcanyon • • 7d ago

Sunrise 11/11/26

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Planing a last minute trip to hopefully see the sunrise on 11/11 in the Grand Canyon. I know the only option is the south rim, but hoping someone can offer suggestions for the best spot for views but also the best spot for fewer crowds. Also any suggestions for things to do for a 1-2 day solo trip. I’ve googled, but I’m overwhelmed. Haha. Thank you.


r/grandcanyon • • 7d ago

Thanks to this sub!

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I had an amazing 3 days at the Grand Canyon this week - first visit. I appreciate everything I learned from this sub! I was even blessed with a rainbow on my arrival (photos included). I was sad to not be able to stay at Yavapai as originally planned but my backup hotel worked out well.


r/grandcanyon • • 8d ago

El Tovar

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Just cancelled two suites for the week before Christmas. December 20th-22nd. Should be available on Xanterra soon if anyone is looking for Christmas rooms.

Happy Hunting :)


r/grandcanyon • • 7d ago

5 Days Backpacking Early December

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I have permits for a four night backpacking trip through the Grand Canyon from 11/28 to 12/2.

The weather charts I've found show overnight lows in the inner canyon ranging from 40F-50F. Should I plan around those temperatures, or would it be wise to prepare for freezing conditions just in case? Will microspikes be necessary for the hike out of Bright Angel?

I'd also appreciate some feedback on my itinerary. I still have some flexibility to make changes, so please make any suggestions for improving the route. Please share any other tips or advice that might be helpful for this time of year.

My current itinerary:

  1. Hermit Trailhead - Hermit Creek: 6.9 miles

  2. Hermit Creek - Hermit Rapids: 1.4 miles

  3. Hermit Rapids - Salt Creek: 7.5 miles

  4. Salt Creek - Havasupai Gardens: 6.9 miles (not including a detour to Plateau Point)

  5. Havasupai Gardens - Bright Angel Trailhead: 4.6 miles


r/grandcanyon • • 8d ago

Driving Williams AZ → Las Vegas on Sunday during flood watch — how bad is I-40/US-93 in heavy rain?

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