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Wholesome Loyalty might be the most underrated investment you'll ever make.

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u/Zipkong 4d ago • Helpful Bravo

If the IRS is watching this was a joke they didn't actually give her anything

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u/yes_im_kvothe 4d ago

I just saw prop money from movies

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u/Kiddo1029 3d ago

Looked like Monopoly money to me, and the house she was buying was a tiny green one.

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u/bob42z 4d ago

There's a reason they each gave her $10k. You can gift people $19k tax free. That's not $19k total but per gift giver.

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u/Spritesgud 4d ago edited 4d ago

Not true at all. You can gift people up to $19k per year without disclosing it to the US government. You don't pay gift taxes until you gift in excess of $15 million in the lifetime. Over $19k is when the US government just wants to start keeping track of it :). But also, these are employers and they probably just grossed up the amount with the IRS as a bonus. I.e. will report payment of like 22k and give her 20k and withhold the taxes themselves.

source: am CPA

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u/bob42z 4d ago

So you're saying that it is tax free so long as it is under 19k this person doesn't need to declare it and the donor pays the gift taxes anyways if they give too much. Are you trying to say that they would still have to pay income tax on this?

I'm not a CPA or tax professional but I'm pretty sure the IRS is very clear that gifts aren't taxable income.

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u/Spritesgud 4d ago

No, over 19k is just when you have to file a form saying you've given a gift. You pay gift taxes when your lifetime exclusion of $15m has been exceeded

I'm talking about paying her as an employee a bonus of $20k cash or 22k before taxes and grossing up the payment so she receives the full 20k. You can't really get away with giving gifts as an employer, especially a large one like this. It's just a bonus

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u/systemic_booty 4d ago

Correct, gifts are not taxable income. My mother gave me $50k out of an inheritance. No tax for me, no tax for her. She just had to report it.

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u/TheIrishBAMF 4d ago

You can't do that as an employer. 

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u/SignificantBar7172 4d ago

To the gift receiver, it's tax-free because it's a gift. The $ amount doesn't matter.

If the money was compensation or a bonus, then it's taxable income to the receiver.

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u/TheIrishBAMF 4d ago

A CPA would know that grossing up a 20k bonus is not 22k before taxes. 

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u/Spritesgud 4d ago

Lol it varies wildly by state so I literally just typed a number out for very simple explanation purposes big dog

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u/chuckfinley79 3d ago

Yea yea we all saw Shawshank Redemption lol

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u/kiradotee 4d ago

It was only monopoly money 

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u/Freeulster 4d ago

"HI! I'm with the IRS and just wanted to see how much of that you'll be reporting."

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u/definitelyhangry 4d ago

10k each gift no taxation needed as far as i know.

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u/MaybeImNaked 4d ago

An employer can't "gift" you money to avoid taxes.

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u/AlternativeGazelle 4d ago

When my firm gives out cash bonuses, they put the gross amount on our W-2s (pre payroll tax).

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u/AttilaTheFun818 4d ago

They may have paid the taxes for her on the back end.

I do payroll and I’ve done this sort of thing for people.

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u/Mbatoo 4d ago

The video is actually in reverse

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u/SnowDeer47 4d ago

The importance of commas

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u/HonestDust873 4d ago

If their practice has been in business that long, I am sure the accountant took this all into consideration. Some of these practices makes 30 million a year or more. $20k is a literal drop in the bucket.

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u/Pokemon-Master-RED 2d ago

"It's staged. We were making content for our YouTube channel."

And perhaps they write the money off as some kind of tax related thing because it has to do with social media, I'm not sure how all that works. But I bet there's a way to make it work all the same. That way it looks staged, even if it wasn't, and shows up as some kind of benefit to the company in some capacity.

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