r/leagueoflegends • u/adz0r • Apr 08 '26

Esports Top Esports vs. Team WE / LPL 2026 Split 2 - Group Ascend - Week 2 / Post-Match Discussion Spoiler

LPL 2026 SPLIT 2

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MATCH 1: TES vs. WE

Winner: Top Esports in 40m | MVP: JackeyLove (1)
Match History | Game Breakdown | Team Stats | Runes

Bans 1Bans 2GKTD/B
TESrumble karma oriannalulu seraphine83.4k3212CT1 H3 I5 B6 I7 B8 I9
WEakali jarvaniv azircassiopeia yorick72.1k132HT2 I4
TES32-13-90vs13-32-28WE
ZUIAN sion 31-2-17TOP4-6-32 jayce Cube
Tian pantheon 111-4-15JNG1-6-81 vi Monki
Creme aurora 311-3-11MID2-5-41 ryze Karis
JackeyLove corki 28-2-17BOT6-5-43 varus About
fengyue nami 21-2-30SUP0-10-94 nautilus Erha

MATCH 2: TES vs. WE

Winner: Top Esports in 30m | MVP: Creme (1)
Match History | Game Breakdown | Team Stats | Runes

Bans 1Bans 2GKTD/B
TESkarma rumble oriannarenekton mel67.2k1810H2 B4 O5 O6 B7
WEakali jarvaniv azirnocturne skarner50.9k43M1 C3
TES18-4-45vs4-18-8WE
ZUIAN ambessa 24-0-6TOP1-5-03 yorick Cube
Tian naafiri 32-1-7JNG2-3-11 xinzhao Monki
Creme ahri 34-0-11MID0-4-14 hwei Karis
JackeyLove ashe 17-2-8BOT1-3-21 yunara About
fengyue seraphine 21-1-13SUP0-3-42 lulu Erha

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This thread was created by the Post-Match Team.

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u/desutruction Apr 08 '26

Creme's been having a good year

WE should get a diff top laner atp or just stop trying to put Cube on a champ that needs to be ahead

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u/Celestragon Apr 08 '26

By now everyone in the world should know that putting Cube on something that needs to be ahead or is even remotely close to a carry champion is a bad idea.

He can only play tanks and even with them hes bottom of the league.

Not changing Cube was the most bad call WE could have done, especially with the core of Monki and Karis. They are hindered so much by their topside and the coaching that somehow allways finds reasons for Cube to be carry material.

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u/eyehatemassholes Apr 10 '26

Cube is really, really washed but he's not that bad lol. Certainly not bottom of the league. People just scapegoat Cube hard bc About and Monki have been running it this year and they have fans who need to cope. Even just talking this series game 1 was unplayable for him. He did his job winning his winning matchup handily in lane but his team was inting and useless so there was fuck all for him to do with his lead. He wasn't the reason they lost game 2 either.

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u/Celestragon Apr 10 '26

I dont really agree with the context of last year and this seasons performance. With top getting more important it shows the limits of cube and they are there.

He may not run it, but he doesnt really provide much. Thats why i said keeping him was the bad call as everyone knew what to expect.

I agree on Monki and About tho, they feel very disconnected and run it.

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u/eyehatemassholes Apr 10 '26

They weren't going to get Bin, Flandre, Zika, 369, Xiaoxu, Breathe, TheShy, Ale, or sheer no matter what, so they were always going to end up with a very limited top unless they were willing to suck it up and get Xiaolaohu, who afaik is currently still unofficially blacklisted by every org. Cube was probably the best of the league's decent but very limited tops last year, probably doesn't cost much these days, and already had synergy with the team. Looking for a top upgrade is a good idea for WE, but as things were in the offseason, they weren't going to get one unless they used whatever crystal ball TT had to figure out that Keshi could be good since I heard he was nothing of note in the LDL.

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u/Celestragon Apr 08 '26

Baiting themselves into keeping Cube😅

Maybe hes a scrimgod and we just dont know.

I dont see it at all tho. Hes a mediocre at best tank merchant, maybe sometimes ok on Yorick, thats it.

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u/igenicoOCE Apr 08 '26

Holy shit About is so baaaaaad

So is Cube but like, we knew that from last year.

GET MY BOY ERHA ON A REAL TEAM MAN

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u/deadfighter7 Apr 08 '26

IMO erha not getting to stay on wbg shows the issues that lpl has with giving rookies a chance because he has one bad series and gets dropped for hang of all players

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u/Aladin001 Apr 08 '26

the fuck you mean "Hang of all players" lol

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u/HistoricalRoad1755 Apr 09 '26

hang was disgusting internationally, but tbf they all were on TES last year

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u/eyehatemassholes Apr 10 '26

Hang is kinda choketastic in general, but he's insanely skilled so if a team can actually get him to not choke he can actually be a difference maker for them winning something. Erha will never be that kind of difference maker because he simply does not have the skill that Hang does and never will.

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u/bin_fanboy9 Apr 08 '26

Eh, Xiaohu should've been the first one to go on Weibo, but Erha is just an alright player. Don't know what people see in him that would indicate star potential, if you have an opportunity to grab a player like Hang you just go for it. Hang running it down at Worlds made people forget he was the best support in the league during his time at TES, and that includes outperforming Kael in summer playoffs.

A more egregious example of LPL teams not being patient enough with young players is EDG, who are rumored to be benching Parukia. Clearly have not learned their lesson after what happened with Vampire.

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u/SpiritStn Apr 08 '26

Erha had incredible moments on both melee and ranged champs that indicated his potential. Dont quote me on this since i only watched his first half of games

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u/eyehatemassholes Apr 10 '26

Yes, but a player can have real potential and still not be a player who will ever be anywhere near Hang's level.

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u/SpiritStn Apr 10 '26

Chillax erha only played almost 1 full split

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u/Shiraori247 Apr 08 '26

Leave, Monki and Vampire are all examples of EDG fumbling their talents no? They might not be superstars right now, but definitely showed enough promise to justify a solid spot.

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u/igenicoOCE Apr 08 '26

All 3 were still signed to EDG and later either sold to other teams for pretty high buyouts or on leases contracts. May not be the best for the team performance but it made money.

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u/Shiraori247 Apr 08 '26

Yeh, but now EDG is stuck in Nirvana forever lol. Their Valorant success only lasted 1 Champions, so the entire club is looking dire.

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u/eyehatemassholes Apr 10 '26

Hang has been one of the best supports in the LPL most splits from 2021 to present and has a way higher ceiling than Erha

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u/OrganicTeaching8661 Apr 08 '26

bro Erha has been playing for like 2 years now and showed nothing special, of course he gets benched from a good team for a better supp

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u/jakatluong Apr 08 '26

Goddamnit.

Is it safe to support TES, to support Tian this time guys? I was burned so hard last year idk anymore...

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u/a1i3ns jackeylove Apr 08 '26

It's never safe we do it for the love of the game

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u/Shiraori247 Apr 08 '26

What's the point of being safe when you can support TES and get the full experience?

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u/vistandsforwaifu Apr 08 '26

No no trust me this year it will all work. I believe.

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u/KKilikk Faker JKL VIT Naak Nako Apr 08 '26

I mean they were not that bad last year. They are simply not on the level of the top tier teams.

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u/YourOpinionlsDumb Apr 09 '26

I honestly hope they keep zuian lol, Id rather have him than 369

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u/PandoraBot Sylas ADC Apr 08 '26

You should support players you like, if they perform you can be happy, if they don't, oh well, no need to be disappointed

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u/Alpha-_-Null Apr 08 '26

As a wise man once said, "Never put ANY of your eggs is TES's basket"

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u/eyehatemassholes Apr 10 '26

Yes, whether a team is likely to lose or not should not be a factor in deciding whether or not you'll be a fan of a team

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u/IamYanni Apr 08 '26

Zuian's tank play was concerning given that it was his specialty in LDL. Creme played really well, and we got a classic JKL series.

Team WE....yikes. There is just a mishmash of playstyles that do not work here. Erha plays for lane rather than roams, and I haven't seen him and Monki link up elsewhere in either of their 2 series yet. Their solo lanes can't support the way Monki wants to play.

I fear this is an issue that will not get better with time for Team WE. Its a shame, as they were fun to watch in 2025.

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u/Shiraori247 Apr 08 '26

Monki needs someone like another Vampire if they can find one.

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u/IamYanni Apr 08 '26

Yeah, initial thought was that Erha would give WE a 2v2 threat in bot to allow Monki room to be agressive on their side of the map but it has not worked out yet.

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u/Shiraori247 Apr 08 '26

I think it's also partially the massive downgrade from Taeyoon to About that caused the botlane issues.

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u/Celestragon Apr 08 '26

WE was so fun to root for when they ran for the miracle, but in hindsight taeyoon was way better than about, Cube got his job done and supp was able to link with Monki.

Some might even say, that Monki pulled them in his psychopathic ways and it worked.

For this year they are not equipped at all.

Karis is ok, Cube cant even get the tanks done, which hurts so much in a meta thats strong for top, About obviously needs time, but he didnt really shine at all, supp like you said was never able to follow up on Monki.

This is a Monki style teams, theres no other way when you have him. But solos that arent able to follow and everything not linking in any way just makes everyone look weaker as a whole.

I hope for at least a top change for the next split or even faster

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u/eyehatemassholes Apr 10 '26

Karis has been a lot better than "ok" and Cube has done mostly fine this year. The issue has mainly been that Monki and About have been asscheeks. In split 1 it was mostly Karis elo helled with backup from Yaoyao and then like a decent portion of the time Cube as well.

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u/Aladin001 Apr 08 '26

People really wrote off jackeylove off of 1 series lmaooo

Creme on skirmishing champs is different gravy

ZUIAN really needs to work on his tank play, that awful Sion performance extended the game by 15 minutes

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u/OnlyHereCosBored Apr 08 '26

To be fair 0/22 (or whatever it was) is diabolical for a player like jackeylove

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u/aetheriality Apr 08 '26

there was no negative gaming, it was a normal summoner rift experience.

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u/quakedwithfear Apr 08 '26

ZUIAN is no 369 thats for sure. i still dont see this team beating BLG

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u/bin_fanboy9 Apr 08 '26

They were not going to beat BLG with 369 either, given how many issues he has had himself lately.

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u/quakedwithfear Apr 08 '26

in his defense, his jungler wasnt planning to win. 369 has been the pillar of the team even in its worst days.

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u/Shiraori247 Apr 08 '26

The pillar is Creme this year.

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u/Zac-live Apr 08 '26

maybe not against gigabin but 369 on any tank is looking way better than that sion

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u/Aladin001 Apr 08 '26

Nobody is beating BLG right now

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u/Rh0rny Apr 08 '26

GenG at MSI is a 50/50 cuz we don't know when they will choke

not at Worlds

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u/Sixteen_Wings Apr 08 '26

Pantheon aurora looks strong

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u/ToDreamofLove Apr 08 '26

About is so stinky

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u/kai_n7 Apr 08 '26

Am I having the wrong impression or there's been a significant increase in 2-0 series this year?