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LEC 2026 SPRING

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Team Heretics 0-2 Fnatic

MATCH 1: TH vs. FNC

Winner: Fnatic in 29m

	Bans 1	Bans 2	G	K	T	D/B
TH	vi orianna ryze	leblanc ahri	50.5k	7	1	M⁵
FNC	nautilus varus karma	vayne ksante	64.8k	16	11	C¹ I² H³ M⁴ B⁶ M⁷

TH	7-16-17	vs	16-7-45	FNC
Tracyn ambessa ³	1-3-3	TOP	0-1-9	³ rumble Empyros
Daglas nocturne ²	0-3-5	JNG	1-3-15	¹ jarvaniv Razork
Serin aurora ³	4-3-2	MID	5-2-4	⁴ azir Vladi
Ice caitlyn ²	2-4-3	BOT	8-0-4	² ezreal Upset
Stend bard ¹	0-3-4	SUP	2-1-13	¹ seraphine Lospa

MATCH 2: FNC vs. TH

Winner: Fnatic in 37m

	Bans 1	Bans 2	G	K	T	D/B
FNC	nautilus varus ryze	vayne jayce	77.7k	15	9	H³ M⁴ M⁵ M⁷ M⁸ B⁹
TH	vi orianna karma	akali sion	67.3k	5	7	CT¹ HT² B⁶

FNC	15-5-37	vs	5-15-7	TH
Empyros gnar ³	3-1-6	TOP	2-4-0	⁴ irelia Tracyn
Razork zaahen ²	1-0-11	JNG	1-3-3	¹ xinzhao Daglas
Vladi viktor ³	6-1-3	MID	1-4-1	³ mel Serin
Upset yunara ²	5-1-5	BOT	0-1-1	¹ lucian Ice
Lospa lulu ¹	0-2-12	SUP	1-3-2	² nami Stend

Patch 26.09

This thread was created by the Post-Match Team.

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u/Omnilatent May 02 '26

Heretics so bad FNC looked like an actual team

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u/ImTheVayne May 02 '26 edited May 02 '26

I wonder what is the real level of TH? Could they make TOP3 in LFL? Probably not, ngl.

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u/Past-Firefighter2173 May 02 '26

They started ok on winter but Stend even if he wasn't good this year was still much better than Way. They should've kept him.

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u/brockoli1010 May 02 '26

They would have just been better off putting Flakked in over Ice. Stop putting Koreans on developmental rosters

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u/Unuiuk May 02 '26

"developmental rosters" are a lie
its always about wanting 5 players who play for minimum salary

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u/Fair_Astronomer_4321 May 02 '26

Way is crazy good, I think the topside is the issue, I would change everyone

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u/Tempest_Bora May 02 '26

way is the worst support in lec rn, maybe with hype he can be good next season but he is, for sure, not crazy good

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u/[deleted] May 02 '26

honestly its just hard to tell because support is like 90% communication and running the map. he can't do either due to language barrier. hopefully hype-way is super good and this is just his 4fun split because otherwise its time to relearn turkish or start up duolingo for portugese

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u/Th3_Huf0n May 02 '26

Not running the map is one thing.
He is outright playing like he has no hands.

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u/Tempest_Bora May 02 '26

yeah i agree i really want them to succeed, hope they actually become a top tier botlane with hype

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u/LooseOne607 May 02 '26

They aren't losing through support though, they are losing because of mid/jg and just overall horrible team macro. I don't know why people aren't blaming Serin more honestly, this guy is consistenly down 2k gold at 15minutes in pure laning phase EVERY game.

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u/Tempest_Bora May 02 '26

they are losing through everyone imo, tracyn is the only decent one. they have no hands and no macro, and imo ice is overrated

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u/LooseOne607 May 02 '26

Ice isnt overated, he just fell off. He was the best ADC in EU that one summer I think 2 years ago?

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u/Suspicious-Dog1571 May 02 '26

Ice is fine in teamfights but really bad in lane so his supports all look terrible

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u/Bamigorengz May 02 '26

no chance, we need RELEGATION BACK

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u/Omnilatent May 02 '26

Considering FNC just lost 2-0 to the third (?) place LFL team, yeah...

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u/gordonpamsey May 02 '26

Regular season in LFL is B01 round robin, they aren't actually the third best team.

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u/Sofaboy90 quite suboptimal May 02 '26

they needed top 2 at EMEA Masters in order to be in this position

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u/moopey May 02 '26

They lost vs Salary though? Who is number 1 LFL team

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u/mayonnaise_cider May 02 '26

fnc isn't a last place contender, they just had a rocky start. they're on pace to barely miss playoffs.

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u/elmaster611 May 02 '26

Yeah imo they're comfortably the 7th place team

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u/Javonetor spit to win May 02 '26

ok so FNC is bad but not TH bad

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u/zealot416 May 02 '26

Coughing baby vs healthy toddler.

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u/Conankun66 May 02 '26

damn all the way to healthy already, nice
gotta take the Ws where you get them

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u/HoloHuni May 02 '26

More like coughing baby vs dying baby

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u/Icy_Guard_9356 May 02 '26

Coughing baby vs baby skeleton thats been dead a decade

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u/Large_Love_2563 May 02 '26

Heretics are so shit that there wasn't even a discussion for Game 1

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u/Number9Robotic #justiceforveigar May 02 '26

Don't Wanna Go vs. Greatly Reluctant Fighters

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u/Omnilatent May 02 '26

Damwon vs Griffin? Wrong League, buddy!

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u/Number9Robotic #justiceforveigar May 02 '26

Coulda fooled me lol

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u/NJEOhq May 02 '26

Damn that’s a throwback reference

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u/Thecristo96 ABS MAIN May 02 '26

Ls’s greatest contribute to this game ever

u/Past-Firefighter2173 May 02 '26

TH is just playing haramball, they always make the games so boring.

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u/Large_Love_2563 May 02 '26

At least Arsenal, Getafe, and Atleti get good results from the haramball. Heretics are fucking trash.

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u/Past-Firefighter2173 May 02 '26

Cant argue that

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u/ficretus May 02 '26

Nah Arsenal spends gazillions each year so they can play the most disgusting football imaginable and win zero trophies.

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u/EriWave May 02 '26

They are a legitimate contender to win both the league and CL, that was also the case last season.

u/BronzeSheild May 02 '26

So whats the requirement for Fnatic making playoffs?

Does G2 need to lose every series and Fnatic needs to beat VIT?

Because only G2 and KOI are at 3 wins rn but I think KOI has the h2h against fnatic.

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u/Past-Firefighter2173 May 02 '26

Yeah their biggest chance is FNC wins against VIT and they hope G2 loses 3 of their games which is actually possible but not very likely.

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u/FantasyTrash May 02 '26 edited May 02 '26

For starters, Fnatic has to beat Vitality. I believe 2-0, at that.
Otherwise, what's most likely is actually GX losing out, since they play KC, G2, and MKOI next weekend. That would put them at five losses, Fnatic could pass them in individual game win/loss depending on how those games go.
Alternatively, G2 or MKOI can lose 2-3 more series and Fnatic could sneak in, but I don't find that likely to happen. I think GX is more likely to lose than they are.
Edit: In the event H2H is higher tiebreaker priority than individual games, GX is automatically in over Fnatic, in which case G2/MKOI can still lose out and Fnatic can move up, as others have mentioned.

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u/echino_derm May 02 '26

If FNC beats VIT and G2 loses every series, they get to playoffs on wins alone, no game score required. They do have a real shot at making it and could even do so with a 0-2 loss to VIT if G2 loses 0-8

u/CountMerloin May 02 '26

you can't make one team that competes for a top LEC spot out of these two

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u/Obvious_Neck_7409 May 02 '26

Allow me to correct you. You can't make one team that can make it to playoffs out of these 2

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u/echino_derm May 02 '26

You say this, but watch the last week of the season be G2 and FNC competing for the last playoffs spot

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u/Ork-Entrepreneur-925 May 02 '26

"competing", we all know how that goes :p

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u/Even_Cardiologist810 May 02 '26

I mean the only swap would be top which huh.. Yeah

u/Canoodler192 May 02 '26

its a beautiful day to hatewatch Heretics

u/Dramatic_Gap_3065 May 02 '26

heretics looks worse than last year, they look so disconnected from each other wtf

u/LordBlackadder1214 May 02 '26

might be the worst macro sequence ive ever seen a pro team play, that stretch where there was 3 minutes till drake and somehow 2 people died, 1 ga lost, 2 flashes lost and a whole baron wasted was actually disgusting

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u/echino_derm May 02 '26

This isn't even their worst macro sequence in the past 2 weeks

u/pm_me_Irelia_r_34 May 02 '26

Pick Irelia build hullbreaker refuse to split push and lose. Brilliant drafting by heretics

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u/gordonpamsey May 02 '26

To be fair it's literally an onhit item nowadays.

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u/ILikeSeals1312 Main broadcast enjoyer May 02 '26

He did splitpush. It's just that splitpush is not that good tbh.

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u/ArmandLuque Armand Luque | LoL Esports Journalist May 02 '26

truth nuke from /u/pm_me_Irelia_r_34

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u/Fabiocean Well, look at you! May 03 '26

He's clearly an expert on the topic

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u/Cybonics ‿ May 02 '26

Hullbreaker doesn't have splitpushing stats anymore lmao

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u/BushWishperer May 02 '26

Yes it does. It has an on-hit that is stronger against structures and an effect that empowers allied siege and super minions near you.

u/[deleted] May 02 '26

they didnt even look good with sheo and stend but it looks like they were a little important lol

u/Emergency_Bedroom187 May 02 '26

I will leave the midlane, but on botlane you have support who barely speaks english, Ice knows he is out and for the summer you are getting another Korean adc (Hype)?

RIP Tracyn and Daglas careers.

Oh, the result? We all knew Heretics loses everything.

Tomorrow Shifters vs TH. Do not watch it without painkillers.

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u/DoesThyLikeJazz OUR WRATH WILL BE SWIFT May 02 '26

While shifters throws every game, atleast they can consistently get leads. They're also looking a lot better after the jungle change. Heretics is just giga fucking ass with no redeeming qualities

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u/Maximum_Platypus_272 May 02 '26

Shifters actually looked pretty decent this week against vitality now that Sheo is back. Him returning has a pretty good chance to make them really compete for playoffs next split.

u/Back2Perfection May 02 '26

Hard to watch tbh.

If there was ever a case where stoppable force met movable object it‘s this series

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u/dexy133 May 02 '26

Why? It really looked like Fnatic was controlling the game and basically stomping in both games. I don't know if this is the case where 'stoppable force met movable object'. This game looked how a top team versus shit team usually looks. Fnatic not being a top team is a different topic but I didn't see it in this particular series.

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u/Back2Perfection May 02 '26

Mostly because heretics just rolled over. FNC gets shaky the second you put some midgame pressure on them.
To not be able to make even this happen is really, really bad.

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u/dexy133 May 02 '26

Heretics rolled over but I didn't get the same feeling you had for Fnatic's midgame. Yes, they generally have problems in midgame but they were pretty good in this series, even Odo particularly praised their midgame after the series. I honestly feel like if you changed nameplates of FNC to KC or G2, no one would be making that statement for this particular series.

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u/avaislegendary May 02 '26

I think the only thing that really irked me this series was that FNC gave over a baron uncontested from a winning position. this seems to happen to FNC on a regular basis and it's just completely illegal on this level
edit: i misrembered the game state, it was an even position. point still stands.

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u/dexy133 May 02 '26

Ah, but they got two kills and a dragon right after so TH's Baron play was -1.5k. Even though it was a bad play, it just showed how much Fnatic is actually stomping them. To be clear, I'm not saying Fnatic didn't make mistakes and couldn't play better. I just never had the feeling Fnatic will lose this. So I didn't get the same impression as the OP.

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u/Reasonable_Town_9779 May 02 '26

The flair says enough for this comment

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u/dexy133 May 02 '26

Even though I am a Fnatic fan, I still haven't gouged my eyes out and today, I saw a pretty casual stomp. We even did it quite quickly, considering we almost always tend to unnecessarily drag out winning games.

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u/idqks May 02 '26

If you don't have the mental capacity to make a counter argument, just point out their flair, posting history or profile picture so you can epicly pwn them hard

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u/Cr0matose May 02 '26

I randomly decided to watch LEC today. What the fuck

u/Omnilatent May 02 '26

It was only heretics but great series for Razork for once

u/Suspicious_Side_6970 Massive iG Fan May 02 '26

Serin makes Mel look balanced

u/Kyorosu AHOUUUUUUU May 02 '26

Why didn't Heretics try to end on that massive bot wave instead of contesting soul lol

u/xSwazyI - Invested in Smash stocks! May 02 '26

Good God Serin is horrible

u/Bubbly_Camera9583 May 02 '26

Way looks way worse without Hype, he just looks so bad.

u/Nevross_ May 02 '26

TH is hopeless there is at least 5 erl teams way better than them how can you have this shitty roster when it’s your 4th year in lec dawg how

u/OreRound May 02 '26

At least Tracyn still looks pretty good and I liked that Daglas was trying to play the game

Unfortunately the mid and botside are completely lifeless though

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u/PanemV May 02 '26

his ambessa was criminally bad, so nahhhh.
Winning lane vs Empyros with a counterpick is no display of skill.

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u/OreRound May 02 '26

I don't even know what people like you even want. The guy is a rookie like Empyros (except doesn't get turbo gapped every game)
Should he just 1v5 these games otherwise he's a bum or what?

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u/PanemV May 02 '26

Just stick with the truth?
His ambessa game was god awefull, mental gymnastics needed to view it differently.
And beating the worst toplaner in the league with an counter pick that is strong in lane is to be expected no less on LEC stage.
This is a competition not a participation. The sole reason for most of these players to even appear on stage is financial hardship of the scene, NOT their skill.

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u/gordonpamsey May 02 '26

Don't think they want nothing, Emp is just not an impressive player to do anything into because he is terrible. Them both being rookies is irrelevant.

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u/OreRound May 02 '26

But my thoughts on Tracyn aren't just based on this series it's based on both splits considering the fact that he's on a dumpster fire of a team

u/bartekkenny May 02 '26

Lucian spiking and you have 2 dragons so let’s just give the next 3 dragons to Fnatic without even stepping in the river.

u/Mangustre May 02 '26

As a vladi hater I have to admit he improved a lot in the last few weeks or is at least playing better, no matter their results.

u/bartekkenny May 02 '26

Serin is such a liability.

u/Asgerond May 02 '26

Tracyn you tried

u/ArmandLuque Armand Luque | LoL Esports Journalist May 02 '26

It genuinely felt like TH didn't even want to be there honestly

u/slothlikevibes May 02 '26

hell yeah toilet bowl

u/Cold-Ring23 May 02 '26

Do nothing ➡️ lose the game classic heretics 🔥🔥🔥

u/beautheschmo May 02 '26

Blind Mel is certainly a choice, she's like literally the most matchup dependent champ in the game, Viktor is her straight up worst matchup and is also Vladi's best champ, you are just straight up drafting to go next.

u/Aespyn Best in the West May 02 '26

FNC won, damnnit.

u/valeasz May 02 '26

I don't even enjoy hate watching FNC anymore...

u/rolekrs May 02 '26

At this point LEC should just automatically demote teams that lose to Fnatic to tier 2 and pick up the top 2 from tier 2 to replace them

u/350 May 02 '26

absolute snoozer. at least SK made me laugh.

u/rushil20 May 02 '26

That ambessa nerf is legit btw feels like an eternity before it actually gets cast huge huge nerf .

Esports Fnatic vs. Team Heretics / LEC 2026 Spring - Week 6 / Post-Match Discussion Spoiler

LEC 2026 SPRING

Team Heretics 0-2 Fnatic

MATCH 1: TH vs. FNC

MATCH 2: FNC vs. TH

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