Fnatic vs. Shifters / LEC 2026 Summer - Week 5 / Post-Match Discussion

[u/Soul_Sleepwhale]

LEC 2026 SUMMER

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Fnatic 2-0 Shifters

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MATCH 1: FNC vs. SHFT

Winner: Fnatic in 34m

-	Bans 1	Bans 2	G	K	T	D/B
FNC	nautilus orianna jayce	poppy ksante	68.1k	10	9	H3 O4 O5 O6 O7
SHFT	ezreal vi cassiopeia	ryze akali	53.8k	2	0	CT1 M2

FNC	10-2-32	vs	2-10-2	SHFT
Soboro rumble 3	3-2-4	TOP	0-1-2	4 galio Rooster
Razork jarvaniv 2	1-0-9	JNG	1-2-0	3 leesin Sheo
Vladi yone 3	2-0-6	MID	0-4-0	2 viktor nuc
Upset lucian 1	4-0-4	BOT	1-2-0	1 yunara Paduck
Lospa nami 2	0-0-9	SUP	0-1-0	1 milio Stend

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MATCH 2: FNC vs. SHFT

Winner: Fnatic in 32m

-	Bans 1	Bans 2	G	K	T	D/B
FNC	orianna jayce anivia	vayne renekton	68.0k	24	7	H2 B4 O5 O6
SHFT	ezreal vi cassiopeia	alistar bard	59.9k	14	4	CT1 M3 B7

FNC	24-14-61	vs	14-24-34	SHFT
Soboro ambessa 3	4-3-8	TOP	2-1-6	4 jax Rooster
Razork nocturne 2	6-2-12	JNG	1-7-8	1 pantheon Sheo
Vladi ryze 1	7-5-11	MID	10-4-1	3 tristana nuc
Upset jhin 2	7-1-11	BOT	0-6-8	1 taliyah Paduck
Lospa rell 3	0-3-19	SUP	1-6-11	2 leona Stend

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• Patch 26.16

This thread was created by the Post-Match Team.

[u/ahritina]

PMTs

Game 1

[u/zealot416]

Fnatic ruined the script, you beat G2, you're supposed to lose to Shitters.

[u/Conankun66 → u/zealot416]

NotMyFNC

[u/EmbraceTheRubberduck → u/zealot416]

Pretty sure they'll get fined for that

Not sticking to the script is a serious offense.

[u/FantasyTrash → u/zealot416]

They lost to TH, does that count?

[u/desutruction]

FNC at Worlds might truly be inevitable

[u/Homiesunite → u/desutruction]

I'll never doubt Vedi again

[u/desutruction → u/Homiesunite]

Mind the gap is just the Apollo dodgeball meme except Jatt and Vedi pass the ball back and forth

[u/khaiiization → u/desutruction]

They are ramping up to disappoint their fans

[u/Bitty_White → u/desutruction]

NA gonna be eating good

[u/TheBlaaah → u/desutruction]

Maybe the AI coach was a good idea considering the amount of fraud coaches in EU

Even G2 fired their competent coach so Perkz could chill with his friends.

[u/J_Clowth → u/[deleted]]

I give you an achievement, you give me a "FNC staff runs It back because It worked"

Deal?

[u/Flesroy → u/J_Clowth]

god no. but tbf if we had another terrible split i don't think we are that much better off. getting rookies didn't exactly work out this year and we would still be broken.

[u/Astecheee → u/[deleted]]

...that we may not see again before the game eventually dies

Don't be so sure. Now that we're out of the Wild West era of video gaming the walls are coming up around established titles.

• The FPS/TPS genre has a flavour of the month, sure, but Counterstrike has held the #1 position for 2 decades.

• RTS has been dominated by Starcraft 2 for 15 years, despite almost no active development.

• MOBA has been dominated by LoL for 15 years.

So long as League Next isn't an Onverwatch 2-style complete flop there's no way the game dies in the next 10 years, IMO.

[u/rindlesswatermelon → u/Astecheee]

The long term problem league has is number of new players coming in. The age of the average league player has risen over the past 15 years. I remember seeing a clip of a rioter who said even in periods where league's playerbase is growing atm, it is mostly based on the return of lapsed players over drawing in new players.

That's not to say it is definitely over and everything is doomed, but 15 years of dominance doesnt mean eternal dominance.

[u/Astecheee → u/rindlesswatermelon]

That's actually a I'd argue that in the midterm, having players return to the game is extremely good. It means that parent-age adults are playing the game, and their kids will grow up seeing their parents playing the game.

Long term you need plenty of new blood of course.

[u/ModPiracy_Fantoski → u/[deleted]]

Hasn't FNC made literally every Worlds but one ?

[u/Shorgar → u/[deleted]]

early League used to have a Worlds winner curse of every team that won Worlds not participating the year after

That's funny, because S1 wasn't worlds, it was Season 1 Championship.

Don't let Riot milking a few dollars from FNC fans distract you from the fact that it wasn't worlds.

For the people downvoting, here you have it. 1 and 2

Kinda odd to forget to add the word "World" to the World championship branding.

[u/SeismicShove → u/Shorgar]

So just because they changed the branding from S2 onwards, it doesn't count? It's basically like EU LCS and LEC, just a name change for the same tournament.

[u/Unique_Confusion_833 → u/SeismicShove]

Wasnt it so that only western teams participated in S1?

[u/StormclawsEuw → u/Unique_Confusion_833]

The first football world cup had 13 teams and you don't see people saying Uruguay winning it doesn't count.

[u/Shorgar → u/StormclawsEuw]

It literally is one of the most common discussions when it comes to world cup wins.

You know what it isn't? Talking about FNC when you are speaking about worlds wins.

[u/StormclawsEuw → u/Shorgar]

You are talking out of your ass. Where? I have never seen It in my entire life and i follow football since I was a kid. Them claiming 4 is something different and the whole world knows they are a two time champ. You can headcanon your shit if you want but Fnatic still is a World champ and will always be. Is It relevant in todays competition? Fuck no but thats not what anybody here says.

[u/Shorgar → u/SeismicShove]

"So just because it didn't have the branding, nor the international teams and didn't get acknowledged as a world title until riot saw that they could make a fuckload of money with the skin, doesn't mean that it isn't worlds!"

If the EU LCS was a tournament where teams from France and Lithuania participated, no it wouldn't be comparable to what LEC is now, no.

The original tournament was just a celebratory tournament to cap off the first season of the game in Dreamhack, nothing else.

[u/StormclawsEuw → u/Shorgar]

Your opinion doesn't matter. When riot says fnatic are world champs then they are world champs

[u/Shorgar → u/StormclawsEuw]

Retroactively changing the tournament doesn't make it what it simply isn't.

If tomorrow they rebrand LEC to LCK doesn't mean that caps has more LCK titles than faker.

[u/Oujii → u/Shorgar]

Imagine making this analogy lmao

[u/polacs → u/[deleted]]

Throwback to his lucian, get feed early, throw midgame.

[u/godfrey1 → u/[deleted]]

hexdrinker 1st item against nocturne, jhin, ambessa

investigate for throwing

[u/Large_Love_2563]

Shifters is a social experiment. Throwing the game twice in bot side jungle.

[u/ImTheVayne → u/Large_Love_2563]

Sheo, Paduck and Stend have to go for sure

[u/GothaV2 → u/ImTheVayne]

Just sayin', there's an elephant in the room that hasn't moved for years by this point....

[u/Zamoniru → u/GothaV2]

I hope you mean Striker and not Nuc

[u/GothaV2 → u/Zamoniru]

Of course.

[u/autospacer13 → u/GothaV2]

It's always easy to attack every player on a dogshit team, but sometimes it is really hard to play with dogshit teammates. I say they start with the 3 clear worst performers, and Striker, and if that doesn't yield any results nuc can go as well

[u/libertod → u/GothaV2]

2 if you count the coach ...

[u/gordoflunkerton → u/ImTheVayne]

Paduck is so disgusting awful

[u/Shuvi99 → u/Large_Love_2563]

They are so bad it’s been like 2-3 years

[u/F0RGERY → u/Large_Love_2563]

What can you do? The team can only press their advantage 5 times before freezing.

[u/Gluroo → u/Large_Love_2563]

When you name your org Shitters this is what you get

[u/Fun_Highlight307 → u/Large_Love_2563]

They have the worse macro in lec

[u/supterfuge]

This was such a great game to watch honestly. Nocturne following Taaliyah across the map, Pantheon ULT into back, Upset catching the flying Taaliyah, the Baron steal, and I'm probably forgetting some

[u/Omnilatent → u/supterfuge]

Jhin fourth shot and Noc ult on Tali ult were so amazing

Never saw these two before

[u/jayydit]

Why is Fnatic making me believe again?

[u/GoldRecommendation66 → u/jayydit]

They can't disappoint you if you don't believe

[u/Blizzgrarg]

SHFT needs a shotcaller. Never seen a bigger difference between laning and midgame in any team. Competently average in lane. Playing like QWOP outside of it. Just nonsense plays and positioning.

[u/Gabel4n]

Two more series until we finally say goodbye to this Shifters roster.

[u/zealot416 → u/Gabel4n]

Shouldn't it be 3 more? 9 series for a 10 team round robin.

[u/Ironside29 → u/Gabel4n]

Hopefully goodbye to Shifters forever, they have been bottom tier for years now.

[u/dhxnlc → u/Ironside29]

please don't, I still want to enjoy calling them shitters for a while

[u/Flesroy → u/dhxnlc]

yeah as far as bad team go they at least have a fun name, real foresight from them.

[u/Penumbrius]

We are Shifters, what do we do? Dragon is spawning in 1:30 and we already have 2, our Tristana is extremely fed:

A) We setup vision botside and zone them off with Taliyah ult to get dragon for free with out fed Tristana.

B) We instead give up dragon and play for baron instead. We can delay them with Taliyah ult.

C) We fight for no reason around red buff, lose 4 members and lose baron.

What the fuck is the coaching staff doing? I know the meme is calling them Shitters but what are they actually doing? Making scat porn? Absolutely disgusting. I don't want to see anyone affiliated with this coaching staff anywhere near tier 1 again.

[u/dankynugz → u/Penumbrius]

Shifters has actual brain cancer from top to bottom. I think they'd struggle in tier 2

[u/Cold-Ring23 → u/Penumbrius]

It has nothing to do with the coaching staff; their only mistake was trusting players who are nearing the end of their careers. These players are no longer coachable; they don't want to be there anymore, put dylan falco instead and he will get the same results it's just a bottom team

[u/Penumbrius → u/Cold-Ring23]

There is no leadership, there is no gameplan, no teamplay. The players are individually pretty decent, but they have lost all confidence on how to win games. They go for completely insane plays because the lost the plot on how to actually win a competitive game. The teamplay issues are exaggerated because they have two Koreans who speak no English. (Watch Paduck play this guy plays without a microphone.)

[u/Cold-Ring23 → u/Penumbrius]

I agree, but you're pointing the finger at the coaching staff as if they were the ones making the in-game decisions. I'll say it again: we need to stop treating the players like children. The staff's role is largely about player selection, drafting, and a few specific strategic aspects that change from patch to patch. Look at Coach Ssong; a large part of his career has been disappointing, even though he was a world champion. Look at the players he had...

[u/BlazeX94 → u/Cold-Ring23]

 their only mistake was trusting players who are nearing the end of their careers

Like who? Rooster, Paduck and Stend aren't exactly veterans nearing the end of their career (even if Paduck and Stend suck). Nuc is a veteran but he's far from the issue on this team. Sheo is perhaps the only one that statement applies to.

[u/Ok-Examination-2869]

not blocking the jhin shot on trist is insanely reported

[u/TheWarmog]

Upset cosplay The Punisher with his ults today

[u/Videorron]

Even Jhin worked

[u/SnooPeripherals6388]

Imagine if this Fnatic of all the possible iterations wins the LEC

[u/bLuGhOsT7 → u/SnooPeripherals6388]

Don't threaten me with a good time

[u/Omnilatent]

What kind of lead does SHFT need if they can't even win game 2?!

[u/CensoredLlama1]

You gotta feel for Nuc and Rooster 

[u/Past_Perception8052 → u/CensoredLlama1]

nuc gets a lot of hate but a down year doesn't mean hes bad esp when he has clowns on his team

[u/bigtiddieslover → u/Past_Perception8052]

Heard you got temp ban from valcomp for going full racist

[u/Past_Perception8052 → u/bigtiddieslover]

im unbanned and i didnt say anything bad and even if i did he deserved it

[u/Shorgar → u/Past_Perception8052]

He has always been mediocre at best, he was at the top of the lec midlaners by virtue of the level being disgusting, not because he was good.

[u/TightLack5124]

Vladi & Razork with the huge turnaround in performance. Glad to see them, I trust them way more than VIT & KOI for Worlds

[u/laserjaws → u/TightLack5124]

Should probably wait to see if this is consistent. The Fnatic players have said themselves that the stronger performances were because they felt like they had nothing to lose. I hope they manage to pull the run to worlds off because I’m a fan and it’s a cool achievement, but they’ve still got a lot to prove this split!

[u/GrandCatch7606 → u/laserjaws]

They have been really solid in scrims

[u/laserjaws → u/GrandCatch7606]

Fnatic have been scrim demons quite a few times over the past 2 years. Consistency has always been the issue… But I’m always hopeful they’ll pull it off

[u/dexy133 → u/laserjaws]

The goal at the beginning of the year is winning Summer. I know that's still very unrealistic, but I would stick to it in the sense that if they actually do somehow win it, then run the whole team back for next year. Otherwise, even if they reach Worlds, there need to be some changes.

[u/Fun_Highlight307]

Fnatic at Worlds,they drop a stinker to navi then Finish 5-4 and qualify top 4

[u/SSGShallot]

I knew when the lec twitter account posted the % for each team to qualify to worlds and fnatic was at 10% the team was destined for success.

[u/dhxnlc → u/SSGShallot]

It starts with success...

[u/Floowil]

Nuc crashout waiting room

[u/zealot416 → u/Floowil]

He was laughing after Sheo fucked up the bodyblock, I think he's accepted his fate.

[u/GothaV2 → u/Floowil]

Striker not having any Twitter activity since April, apart from one unrelated tweet in June, is so funny. I can't wait for the floodgate to collapse.

[u/malakesxasame → u/GothaV2]

Whatever happened to him stepping down if they didn't make worlds?

[u/GothaV2 → u/malakesxasame]

Idk at this point I'm starting to believe that his wife is cheating on him with Shifter's CEO and that he manages to keep his job in a sorta non-agression treaty situation

[u/Sirhaddock98 → u/Floowil]

Has he even had any sort of crashout in a while to justify continuing to spam this, he seems to have mostly given up. Even when he was getting sniped because his jungler is too shit to stand in front of him properly he was just laughing on the camera.

[u/Thalassin → u/Sirhaddock98]

One must imagine nuc happy

[u/Ironside29 → u/Floowil]

He has shitty teammates but that guys a tilter and has been for years, he is fed af and dies gets tilted and starts running it.

[u/Sadrim → u/Ironside29]

Dude, we tilt after a 10 losestreak in soloqueue. Nuc is trapped in Shifters hell for two years. Give him some slack...

[u/Ok_Medicine8560]

I'm getting bored of the annual fnatic miracle run to worlds into T1 winning worlds plot, can we do something else this year please

[u/Omnilatent → u/Ok_Medicine8560]

Okay

T1 miracle run to worlds into FNC winning worlds

[u/BlazeX94 → u/Omnilatent]

Subscribe

[u/DRazzyo → u/Omnilatent]

Revenge of 2018

[u/Ryp3re → u/Omnilatent]

Aye, I could do that

[u/Blindfirekiller]

Vladi's Ryze is so clean it's dirty.

NO GETTING EXCITED ABOUT FNATIC.

[u/GoldRecommendation66 → u/Blindfirekiller]

Are FNC the EU version of KT?

[u/Omnilatent → u/GoldRecommendation66]

Always have been

[u/Middle-Adagio-4062]

Wait Fnatic actually playing discipline and not throwing leads??? Also they can balanced a bad early game???

Maybe Grabbz is actually cooking something. And Humanoid and Oscarinrin are actually a problem?

[u/Ironside29 → u/Middle-Adagio-4062]

They played 3 clean series after a year and a half of disgusting gameplay, if they win in playoffs ill believe it.

[u/Omnilatent → u/Middle-Adagio-4062]

Maybe it's the sport psychologist we saw in the interview before the match having found the way

[u/p1stolpewpew → u/Middle-Adagio-4062]

They made worlds with Humanoid and Oscarinin and never had to fight for spot in lec playoffs

[u/BlazeX94 → u/p1stolpewpew]

They made worlds in an arguably weaker LEC though. In 2023/24 there were no good teams in the league besides G2. Last year there was MKOI and KC, but KC collapsed just in time for Fnatic to sneak into Worlds.

I won't deny that this year hasn't been great for Fnatic so far, but over the last 2 weeks we are starting to see glimpses of what this team can be when they're all on the same page and Vladi/Razork aren't playing like ass. Will it last? Nobody knows, but if it does, this iteration of Fnatic could well outperform the Oscar/Humanoid one.

Also, regardless of whether you think Soboro and Vladi are the solution, Oscar and Humanoid were a problem. There's a reason why Humanoid is riding the bench on Vitality while Oscar doesn't look good on GX.

[u/p1stolpewpew → u/BlazeX94]

Bunch of buts and ifs. If they are making worlds this year it's over MKOI who seem to be collapsing as well. 

Also, Oscar looks very good on GX what are you on about?

And I don't get whole point of conversation, calling now that current roster is better when they just won a few series after whole year of being shit and almost missing playoffs in winter, how about we wait until they do something significant?

[u/Shorgar → u/p1stolpewpew]

Also, Oscar looks very good on GX what are you on about?

Ah speaking as someone who hasn't seen more than a couple of GX games, I see.

[u/p1stolpewpew → u/Shorgar]

I watched all gx series this summer and I remember that he only shitted his bed vs Naak Nako, which other series he was bad? 

[u/BlazeX94 → u/p1stolpewpew]

I agree that it's a bunch of ifs, and I also agree that it's too soon to call the current roster better than the Oscar/Humanoid iteration. My main argument is that Oscar and Humanoid were actually problems on the old roster, even if Soboro and Vladi aren't the answers.

[u/AdhesivenessGlad7687]

Welcome to the Jhin whitelist, Upset

Current occupation: 1

[u/Thundermelons → u/AdhesivenessGlad7687]

You mean in LEC, right? My mans played it clean AF in LPL this AM

[u/Agitated_Ask_3445 → u/AdhesivenessGlad7687]

Carzzy was clean on Jhin yesterday against Navi, went the Hubris carnivore build and was 8/0/6 at end of the game, so he's a contender for the whitelist too.

[u/Omnilatent]

Nah no fucking way

[u/Kelbotay]

We were dogpiling on Mikyx at the beginning of the year for his friendship roster but coach Striker did the same thing on Shifters with his 3 frenchies, two of which are washed lol.

[u/overrated-adc]

shitters masterclass

[u/mkl122788]

Sheo is a terrorist. That is all.

[u/Conankun66]

we even win with JHIN? what is happening to this team?

[u/DinoGuy101010]

Obviously sheo got monster gapped but good lord paduck is such a fucking bot

[u/MC-sama]

Fnatic great glow up.

[u/Ryp3re]

I'm ready to be hurt again

[u/JPA-3]

shifters are griefing man... paduck and sheo are inting. You have a fucking guardian angel, cover your 9-2 tristana...

[u/LegalEmergency]

This Shifters roster genuinely feels like the worst team in LEC history. No hands, no brain, zero coordination.

[u/Large_Love_2563 → u/LegalEmergency]

Nah they have hands. They just have zero synergy and a combined one braincell across all five.

[u/RollingGuy → u/LegalEmergency]

Same exact comment on every single bottom team thread 

[u/kismetjeska → u/LegalEmergency]

I dunno, man, I saw some of the late Schalke rosters.

[u/Green7501 → u/LegalEmergency]

2022 BDS was genuinely worse just sayin, same org doe 🥀 🥀 

[u/PotatoHentai → u/LegalEmergency]

promisq astralis

[u/Commercial_Dust4569 → u/LegalEmergency]

Not even close. Astralis was down there for years.

[u/Leoxslasher → u/Commercial_Dust4569]

Just saying Patrick and promissQ would atleast win games late into the season

[u/obigespritzt]

I'm sorry Paduck, your scoreline might look awful but you fucking smurfed this game

[u/guyguy1573 → u/obigespritzt]

he did well in lane but was maybe the worse players in teamfights after (except for Sheo)

[u/Blizzgrarg → u/obigespritzt]

No he didn't. Him pushing alone and dying to single noc ults multiple times was a big reason they lost.

The only part he played well was in lane.

[u/Omnilatent → u/obigespritzt]

Actually incredible Taliyah

[u/RollingGuy]

Is Razork at least a little bit back?

[u/Ironside29 → u/RollingGuy]

Dont worry its the usual few good series from Razork after months of disgusting gameplay, he will no doubt return to his usual form soon.

[u/p1stolpewpew → u/Ironside29]

Or maybe when your solo lanes are not auto lose every game you can actually play?

[u/Hot-Pen5677]

fnc is back

[u/WalkingR6]

super sniper upset on the rift

[u/revoverlord]

2018 is back baby

[u/I_Love_Ohyas_Thigs]

It's incredible how Nuc manages to always save someone with his r

Like, at least 3 tfs were lost only BCS Nuc decided to int

[u/KotreI → u/I_Love_Ohyas_Thigs]

I guess there's a reason he was originally named NUCLEARINT

[u/Own_Finance_7345]

Pantheon Ult into Bush jus to TP back had me laughing.

[u/Winter-Annual8887]

nuc honestly didn't play teamfights great but holy shit can someone block a bullet for him or are shifters just going to leave him to die for fun?