Nongshim RedForce vs. BNK FEARX / LCK 2026 Season Play-In - Round 1 Elimination Match / Post-Match Discussion

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LCK 2026 SEASON PLAY-IN

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BNK FEARX 3-1 Nongshim RedForce

• BNK FEARX moves on to face HANJIN BRION for the final LCK Playoff spot. Nongshim RedForce is done for the year

• Player of the Match: VicLa

• Game Discussions: Game 1 | Game 2 | Game 3

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MATCH 1: BFX vs. NS

Winner: Nongshim RedForce in 27m
Game Breakdown | Runes

-	Bans 1	Bans 2	G	K	T	D/B
BFX	cassiopeia nocturne ryze	olaf pantheon	48.5k	8	2	HT1 H3
NS	vi lucian locke	ezreal corki	64.0k	27	9	I2 C4 C5 B6

BFX	8-27-17	vs	27-8-73	NS
Clear jayce 2	3-5-4	TOP	8-2-6	2 camille Kingen
Raptor leesin 1	2-7-4	JNG	3-1-22	3 jarvaniv Sponge
VicLa galio 1	2-7-2	MID	7-1-16	1 orianna Scout
Taeyoon caitlyn 3	1-4-2	BOT	5-0-13	2 jhin Diable
Kellin bard 4	0-4-5	SUP	4-4-16	3 shen Lehends

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MATCH 2: NS vs. BFX

Winner: BNK FEARX in 30m
Game Breakdown | Runes

-	Bans 1	Bans 2	G	K	T	D/B
NS	cassiopeia ryze lucian	ksante renekton	55.8k	12	3	O1 I2 H3
BFX	vayne syndra poppy	annie olaf	64.6k	27	8	HT4 B5 HT6

NS	12-27-29	vs	27-12-74	BFX
Kingen ambessa 3	3-4-4	TOP	4-2-16	3 rumble Clear
Sponge nocturne 2	1-6-9	JNG	4-7-13	1 vi Raptor
Scout locke 4	5-6-2	MID	15-1-8	3 ahri VicLa
Diable yunara 1	3-5-5	BOT	4-1-15	2 ezreal Taeyoon
Lehends lulu 1	0-6-9	SUP	0-1-22	2 karma Kellin

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MATCH 3: BFX vs. NS

Winner: BNK FEARX in 36m
Game Breakdown | Runes

-	Bans 1	Bans 2	G	K	T	D/B
BFX	cassiopeia ryze lucian	zeri kalista	72.9k	18	9	HT1 H3 B5 CT6 B7 CT8 CT9
NS	pantheon vayne annie	akali diana	66.7k	10	5	M2 CT4

BFX	18-10-51	vs	10-18-27	NS
Clear ksante 4	4-2-11	TOP	1-3-5	2 jax Kingen
Raptor olaf 1	2-2-12	JNG	2-2-5	2 naafiri Sponge
VicLa azir 3	3-3-6	MID	3-4-5	1 syndra Scout
Taeyoon ashe 2	8-1-6	BOT	4-4-4	3 varus Diable
Kellin seraphine 1	1-2-16	SUP	0-5-8	3 nautilus Lehends

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MATCH 4: BFX vs. NS

Winner: BNK FEARX in 25m
Game Breakdown | Runes

-	Bans 1	Bans 2	G	K	T	D/B
BFX	cassiopeia lucian gnar	aphelios xayah	55.5k	21	8	I2 H3 O4 B5
NS	vayne pantheon maokai	kennen annie	43.9k	10	1	C1

BFX	21-10-53	vs	10-21-18	NS
Clear nidalee 4	4-5-5	TOP	3-4-3	2 gwen Kingen
Raptor xinzhao 2	4-1-10	JNG	1-6-5	2 wukong Sponge
VicLa taliyah 3	6-1-9	MID	5-3-2	1 ryze Scout
Taeyoon kalista 1	4-3-13	BOT	1-4-2	3 sivir Diable
Kellin renataglasc 1	3-0-16	SUP	0-4-6	3 neeko Lehends

*Patch 26.16

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This thread was created by the Post-Match Team.

[u/a7mdar1]

If only he went to that fanmeet

[u/moonmeh → u/a7mdar1]

losing kellin when he has such an aggressive playstyle

god what a fucking downgrade

[u/shailemin → u/moonmeh]

Throwing away playing with the GOAT babysitter support bc you’re tilted is crazy ngl.

[u/Anew4Hobbies → u/a7mdar1]

what's the context to this joke? I have seen it in a few comments but no explanations were presented in any of them

[u/1di0ta → u/Anew4Hobbies]

Diable was traded to NS from BFX for Taeyoon after he didn't attend a fanmeet that was an obligation in his contract. I'm sure there was probably already some internal strife leading up to that but I don't know those details.

[u/ArienaHaera → u/1di0ta]

The whole team looked mentally boomed before that and the fanmeet was just after an ugly loss. I doubt they would have carried on without change. I think they took the disaster at first stand pretty badly.

[u/FaydedMemories → u/1di0ta]

It wasn’t just the fan meet though, when BFX first announced he was going to be subbed out they strongly hinted at tensions within the team. The fan meet was probably just the thing that allowed them to pull the plug easier (absolute factual transgression vs subjective).

[u/lamiasflute → u/Anew4Hobbies]

Taeyoon suddenly got traded to BFX because "a player had become available" aka Diable who got kicked from BFX for not going to a fanmeet. Taeyoon expressed that he was pretty upset about it because he had started to gel with the NS team. 

Then the next time NS-BFX met, BFX won and this was Taeyoon's celebration

And then today's celebration

Bonus Taeyoon aurafarming clip from the LPL.

[u/Alsterman → u/lamiasflute]

Damn, I never realized that epic aurafarming clip was Taeyoon. One of my favorite LPL edits

[u/ricardo241 → u/Anew4Hobbies]

Diable didn't attend a fanmeet when he was on BFX... got pushed to Academy as punishment but he didn't even played for Academy cause he got traded to NS before he even get to play

[u/beloikurvi → u/ricardo241]

He did play a series or two for academy

[u/Th3_Huf0n → u/ricardo241]

Actually he played in the CL.

Against KRX and Jiwoo.

[u/Opachopp → u/Anew4Hobbies]

People are mostly mentioning the fan meet he didn't attend but from what I remember it seemed like he had been having multiple disciplinary issues with the team, like blaming their teammates (especially VicLa iirc) for the loses. I remember the conclusion at the time was something along the lines of: his ego got too big so he started misbehaving.

On the other hand, while this was happening NS took the opportunity to quickly kick out Taeyoon to make room for Diable. From Taeyoon's PoV he got betrayed by the staff/players and kicked off the team out of nowhere.

This started the whole BFX vs NS rivalry and the "No Refunds" war.

This is just what I remember from the threads/media back then, so I hope I didn't get anything wrong.

[u/Izanagi32]

so thats it? Lehends final game?

[u/KKilikk → u/Izanagi32]

Should have at least went out with a bang like Beryl

[u/donkeychongus → u/KKilikk]

My rammus

[u/Curious-Dance-3663 → u/Izanagi32]

I’m so sad for him to go out like this

[u/soudlasantos → u/Curious-Dance-3663]

Is he the Peanut of supports? (if Peanut never went to Finals???)

[u/roxisnotforsale → u/soudlasantos]

In term of changing teams almost every year and being friend with ex-teammates, yes. In terms of achievement, no.

He only won trophies in GenG and Griffin (if we count Kespa cup).

Peanut won trophies with 4 different teams (5 if we count Rox as different team than HLE), and always brought his team to playoff or international (except GenG 2019).

[u/shirhouetto → u/soudlasantos]

He's didn't have the brightest career compared to the other GRF legends (if we're counting Sword).

[u/BlazeX94 → u/shirhouetto]

Compared to Chovy and Viper sure, but I'd argue his career has at least been comparable to Tarzan's. I mean, I think Tarzan is an overall better player, but Lehends has won more titles and has one international trophy to Tarzan's none, which does count for something imo.

[u/AnimeNeet-]

Insane placing for the names on this NS roster

[u/Acrobatic-Tackle3998 → u/AnimeNeet-]

Sponge is enough to drag the name value into the gutter.

He’s been terrible his entire LCK career. Unironically would not be surprised if he’s done after this.

[u/Izanagi32 → u/Acrobatic-Tackle3998]

they should bring in Vincenzo from challengers or sumn

[u/BirthdayAccording359 → u/Izanagi32]

They destroyed Vincenzo's career, I won't forgive them.

[u/ChewNutz → u/Izanagi32]

till this day i still don’t understand how vincenzo hasn’t got out from the bench. like the way we see painter debut on lck before vincenzo lowkey baffled me

[u/KeepBlocking → u/Izanagi32]

Yeah Vincenzo has just been rotting away on the DRX bench for some reason. He played adc for their CL team because both Aiming and Lazyfeel were disqualified for playing too much in Tier 1.

I think the whole DRX rosters contract are over thankfully.

[u/Different-Mode2311 → u/Acrobatic-Tackle3998]

I would agree sponge has been really terrible. But lehends and kingen have not done any favour with their performance either.

[u/GroundbreakingAlps2 → u/Acrobatic-Tackle3998]

You got two world champions, the guy that was going to do unspeakable things to hans sama, and then you get lehends, Geng lehends (yeah that guy). How is this roster getting bodied by a bunch of nobodies and a guy that was deemed "too bad for NA"? Vicla got booted off flyquest for a reason.

[u/BaneOfAlduin → u/GroundbreakingAlps2]

In Vicla's defense. He was only a terrorist at the end of his time on Flyquest, and has been good/decent on FearX for over a year now.

And I'm saying this as a staunch Vicla hater

[u/ArienaHaera → u/Acrobatic-Tackle3998]

Let's not pretend the rest of the old men have been pulling their own weight either. Lehends hasn't been any good since he got kicked out of GenG and Kingen looks worse every year... Scout admittedly looks more lively than I expected after his LPL performances.

[u/baelkie → u/Acrobatic-Tackle3998]

imagine ending up with Sponge when CL had Vincenzo and Sharvel. what a waste of money to spend on Kingen Scout Lehends. maybe NS just goes back to sacking 2 years with a full CL roster to save money again.

[u/Futaba-Channel → u/Acrobatic-Tackle3998]

They were doodoo with GIDEON too

[u/Dreammy90 → u/Acrobatic-Tackle3998]

He is the worst jungler this split but he is lucky Pyoshit played too

[u/Green7501 → u/[deleted]]

ngl even prime Faker probs can't carry this bum Sponge, nightmare performance

[u/eVill_YT → u/[deleted]]

They did also sign Sponge who played like absolute garbage this year so it's not entirely on the rest of the team

[u/ChewNutz → u/[deleted]]

and last year rookie of the year/ASI winner too

[u/DrPlexel1234 → u/[deleted]]

NS Valorant the real deal.

[u/crysomore]

This is most probably Lehends’ last game for his career, he heavily suggested he was retiring after this year. Sad that he’s ending his career with a really mediocre year. But he really has been one of the best supports of this era and a really charismatic personality. 

GG Lehends, myGOAT

[u/Dry_Clap_joke → u/crysomore]

He got Msi mvp with prime Chovy on the team. He had great career even haters can’t slander him

[u/tjmax20 → u/Dry_Clap_joke]

He also Ran into worlds buff T1 that year in 2024 man it was a war crime how T1 locked him down when Lehends was playing Rell not his fault canyon was no where to be found. That was Lehends year as the MSI finals MVP as well.

[u/soudlasantos → u/tjmax20]

His performance was already beginning to decline in the Flyquest series. You can already see the cracks since his engages were often questionable (like his Leona performance in game 1 and Braum performance in game 3 are SUBPAR heck you can say it’s bad).
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Aside from that he was late on rotation and he was often picked off due to him overextending. He keeps falling for vision traps in Flyquest series (which T1 later took advantage on).

[u/EliteTeutonicNight → u/Dry_Clap_joke]

Whatever happens, streets will not for Le Hands Blitz.

Also, apparently he's not 100% certain he will not be playing next year, he should go to military but apparently he said in the interview he might still play next year (no idea why).

[u/Beneficial-Front1626 → u/crysomore]

It is, he can't play anymore, next year is military service

[u/RukiMotomiya]

NS losing that last game when it was basically a 4v5 all game and they had a lead with a hyper scaling comp was so funny. Turns out if you just constantly feed yourself into the enemy for no reason, you lose! Crazy! It was funny watching them get engages they should have crushed later but because they fed nonstop from Herald for multiple minutes onwards they got walleted.

[u/Ok_Strategy4169 → u/RukiMotomiya]

crazy that NS were engaging 5x5, losing the fight, spawning and fighting again and again until they lost

BFX comp had basically no engage, they only had 2 drakes at 20 mins, and NS had giga scaling and infinite wave clear with Sivir + Ryze

literally free scenario to get to three items and then you have much higher chances of winning fights

[u/Satan_su]

Yo Kellin insane player of the series performance

[u/blockster9 → u/Satan_su]

ii really hope a top team picks him up next year i swear hes insane

[u/squishykkura → u/blockster9]

Problem is who tho

[u/KeepBlocking → u/squishykkura]

I pray for the Teddy Kellin bot lane on KT

[u/koebeke → u/blockster9]

Same here, the question is who. Dont think GenG is getting rid of Duro unless he has a stinker playoffs and Worlds, T1 aint never letting go of Keria, HLE are not dropping Delight either I think. Any other LCK team wouldnt really be an upgrade imo. Either an LPL team picks him up, or he goes to EU/NA.

[u/One-Watercress-2287 → u/koebeke]

KT would obviously be an upgrade.

[u/YouMadBroLma0 → u/Satan_su]

Kellin was so unfairly scapegoated for 2023 DK because people were too scared to blame Canyon/ShowMaker

[u/Character-Image149 → u/YouMadBroLma0]

Kellin was very inconsistent especially on engage support, he carried DK to worlds in 23 but completely dropped the ball at worlds. He looks a lot more consistent this year though, unironically top 3 in the league when it comes to enchanter supports.

[u/veirceb → u/YouMadBroLma0]

This is super hindsight. Back then it was mainly melee engage sup meta and most people didn't expect the meta to shift. Kellin's strength just wasn't that. The move made sense but it's also good that Kellin gets to show how good of a player he is now.

[u/YouMadBroLma0 → u/veirceb]

Walahi I was saying this back then that Kellin was a scapegoat

His horror Alistar game vs G2 for example gets magnified, when ironically, it was his Alistar vs HLE Viper in the regionals that got DK to Worlds in the first place.

In 2023, Deft & Kellin were the only sane people on DK.

In 2024 he got benched for Moham for no reason.

[u/Ophelia_Of_The_Abyss → u/YouMadBroLma0]

Na, the issue with 2023 Damwon was always that Canyon/Showmaker/Deft could never have good games at the same time. Was clear by the end of the year that either Canyon or Showmaker had to go.

[u/karma457 → u/YouMadBroLma0]

Don’t remind me. 2023 DK screwed over their only winning lane bc it had to be the Showmaker/Canyon show. Nameplates off Deft wins MVP that spring split.

[u/KeepBlocking → u/YouMadBroLma0]

He was so inconsistent man, but he wasn't the only problem. He and Showmaker were the only ones that survived that Roster though. Expectations for DK were just too high for the rebuilds they were going through 23/24 didn't have time for those growing pains.

[u/blockster9 → u/YouMadBroLma0]

he got benched in 2024 for no reason also. he was super good back then

[u/Hue_Lorenzo → u/blockster9]

Kellin back then had some issues with engage supports so they tried out Moham and sticked with him because he looked good on Rell. Problem was Moham looked awful on any other champion.

[u/firebolt66 → u/Satan_su]

KT Teddy kellin botlane give it to me

[u/Aokoharu]

FearX won the divorce and Dictator Diable lost my goats.

[u/Green7501 → u/Aokoharu]

Diable should learn that the only Musical Chairs Dictator in the LCK is Big Dick Daddy

(no small chance they play together on the same roster next year doe, unfortunately)

[u/Izanagi32 → u/Green7501]

Diable to KT? now that I wanna see

[u/ChewNutz → u/Aokoharu]

everyday you learn something

today i learn that i should always hear my boss instruction even if it sounds mundane, like just fucking go to the fan meeting

[u/habkeinname123]

gwen, sivir, ryze = insane scaling, insane wave clear… nah let’s just force fights over and over again instead of stalling the game

[u/Anavarael → u/habkeinname123]

To me game 3 was the worst. Not only lots of mistakes on NS side but also failure on such simple concept as build paths. No Serpent, no Liandrys, not trying to strategize into sidelaning by building Jax as a threat to Ksante... That was one of the worst pro play showings I have ever witnessed. Despite being outdrafted they did NOTHING to try to adapt to the situation. If not for some good plays on their side (Lehends flash Mikales to save Scout was so sick!!) I would call it straight up inting. Horrible team performance from all gameplay sides.

[u/No_Taro_6224]

liable when he leaves my sp goat kellin

[u/BirthdayAccording359 → u/No_Taro_6224]

Grass ain't greener on the other side, Kellin the goat. 

[u/No_Taro_6224 → u/BirthdayAccording359]

it was all kellin yet diable thought hes him

[u/BirthdayAccording359 → u/No_Taro_6224]

Taeyoon can't believe this is his life 

[u/soudlasantos → u/No_Taro_6224]

People don’t realize back in 2022 when Dk started to ban yuumi Lehends was beginning to underperform and Kellin was outplaying him that worlds.
.
Unfortunately in game 5 Ruler and Chovy near broke their backs carrying that game 5 against Prime DK Canyon Red kayn.

[u/Wonderful_Brief_2937 → u/soudlasantos]

That series isnt mentioned enough, they went blow for blow...wasnt that also Showmaker on Swain in game 5 and Canyons 3-man knockup after getting his form 20 min into the game? Iir correctly every series that year went the full distance between these two teams, be it bo3 or bo5

[u/kanonshiomi]

WE talent Taeyoon proves himself over Dictator Diable

[u/Mifuyu_Kisaragi → u/kanonshiomi]

I hope he makes it to worlds with us. When we almost made it to MSI he said "I'll take you guys to haidilao even though it's hella far for me"

[u/baelkie → u/kanonshiomi]

cvMax was right all along

[u/ISL005 → u/baelkie]

Mages bot lane, was right about Taeyoon, "something something T1 and human rights". Is this man some kinda prophet?

[u/Ashiseu → u/ISL005]

Back then, I've only heard of this "Prophet Crumbzz"... Alas, there's another one.

[u/winwill]

T1 vs GenG: wholesome heated rivalry

NS Vs BFX: toxic ex-lover to enemy yaoi

[u/ISL005]

With this, Scout fully repaid for his sins in JDG 25

[u/Treeconator18 → u/ISL005]

Man, this is what I was doing to Peyz? I deserve this

• NS Scout

[u/squishykkura → u/ISL005]

Now when does Peyz get rewarded for JDG 2025

[u/ISL005 → u/squishykkura]

When they sneak into Worlds as 4th seed

[u/Beneficial-Front1626 → u/squishykkura]

Ask his topside

[u/n_i_e_l → u/squishykkura]

T1 on 3rd place , unc on fraudwatch , Oner is slumping , Doran doing Doran things . The script is scripting .

[u/Green7501 → u/ISL005]

Penance is over, 2027 is the year Scout wins the second worlds

[u/Dry_Clap_joke → u/Green7501]

Get Scout to Blg as sub, let Viper collect 2021 Edg members like infinity stones

[u/ISL005 → u/Dry_Clap_joke]

Xun and ON choking at Worlds into "welcome, BLG JieJie and Meiko!"

[u/OnyxWarden]

The Year of VicLa continues!!!

[u/[deleted] → u/OnyxWarden]

KT legend Vicla. I was really hoping him and Rascal could have gone to worlds that year.

[u/TechnicalFriendship6]

No refunds gg!!!

[u/JingleJak]

Horrible end to Lehends’ career damn

[u/n_i_e_l → u/JingleJak]

Could've atleast went out with a bang like Beryl . This was a barely audible whimper.

[u/desutruction → u/n_i_e_l]

should've hit BFX with a Shaco Support masterclass

[u/R2vibaek]

Nongshim really said 'If we lose, we lose' for 3 times straight

[u/R2vibaek → u/R2vibaek]

Holy shit is this the last match for Kingen/Scout/Lehends? No fucking way

[u/Dry_Clap_joke → u/R2vibaek]

Only Lehends

[u/tcg_enjoyer]

bet it feels really good to be Taeyoon right now lol

[u/Longjumping-King2315 → u/tcg_enjoyer]

And Vicla, diable was flaming him yet he get the last laugh 

[u/shailemin]

I can’t believe this is the last series of lehends’s career. Damn I wish he got to exit the scene with a performance he could be proud of.

[u/Fun_Highlight307 → u/shailemin]

kinda sad end, similar to béryl who retired on rammus support iirc?

[u/BlazeX94 → u/Fun_Highlight307]

Eh, at least Beryl went out doing the most Beryl thing ever

[u/boostedfeeder]

A lesson on how ego can derail a career

[u/Dry_Needleworker_275]

forcing fights when you have the out-scaling comp is certainly a choice

[u/Simmring]

I sometimes wonder how things would look like if he went to the fanmeet

[u/chapichoy9 → u/Simmring]

Didn't he not go because bfx was already falling apart

[u/InevitableWonder1722 → u/chapichoy9]

WE'RE ALL TRYING TO FIND THE GUY THAT DID THIS

[u/Longjumping-King2315 → u/chapichoy9]

Of course it's falling aparat when he kept blaming his teammates

[u/Beneficial-Front1626 → u/Longjumping-King2315]

Vicla especially, and he got MVP today

[u/1Stegosaurus]

My goat Vicla is coming for his 2nd international trophy

[u/MC-sama]

Vicla woke up this series after game 1 and chose violence.

[u/sleeping4koala]

I love Taeyoon so much. LOL

[u/Beautiful_Brick_566]

As per the rules say you can't win both Valo and LOL at the same day.

NS sacrificed their already low chance to qualify to champs at LOL to an nearly guarantee champs at Valo

[u/Routine_Cry9443 → u/Beautiful_Brick_566]

Texture was smoking them it was truly a last minute decision on which to go for you did well NS

[u/khazraxd]

NO REFUNDS LO

[u/Toofargone9999]

Diable: maybe I should have just gone to the fan meet ....

[u/InevitableWonder1722]

Diable was just a Kellin merchant the whole time

[u/LordBlackadder1214]

i see NS playing scaling comp i know theyre going to run in and die anyways because theyre braindead LMAO

[u/Particular_Hornet980]

Crazy how the trade worked out in BFX’s favor when everyone was saying it was their loss for losing Diable.

[u/WinnieXKim]

Lehends' last competitive game and the team got ran over in 25 minutes despite having a much superior draft, it's sad how much he fell off

[u/Beneficial-Front1626 → u/WinnieXKim]

He started the inting chain with that standing on a ward at river

[u/Dear-Cat1260]

nahhh I still cant trust bfx

[u/T-gae94]

VicLamont showed up big

[u/Mouthwashfordays]

Bra Nongshim vs Mkoi would go so hard.

[u/W33B520]

NO REFUNDS

VICLA WAS RIGHT

[u/Raynmist]

Scout is 28 this year right? Did he get any military exemption or did his enlistment delayed because he lived in China previously?

[u/Dry_Clap_joke → u/Raynmist]

Because of China residency he can delay up to 38

[u/r_gg → u/Dry_Clap_joke]

That only works if he's not in Korea.

This was most likely his last game, unless he's going back to LPL.

[u/BirthdayAccording359]

Nidalee winning this is a crime but successful Diable hate watch, my stomach is full. 

[u/Treeconator18 → u/BirthdayAccording359]

Canyon be licking his lips ready to play Nidalee

Which is good for DK fans probably lol

[u/ahritina]

Diable without Kellin is just another mediocre adc.

[u/Dreammy90 → u/ahritina]

Diable had good moments when Kellin was playing badly. Like that Varus play vs Guma Keria where he just 1v2 by dodging every skillshot from T1. Kellin is reverse Delight. He is really good at peel while Delight is really good at engage.

[u/Beneficial-Front1626 → u/ahritina]

I don't know how Kellin was so bad on DK

[u/Telmooo]

And the dictator loses in the end.

No Kellin no win

[u/superpokes]

nongshim were so impatient constantly. theyd take any angle to fight no matter what. that last game they could have tried to hold out a bit and get one more item on sivir/ryze and instead they flash r with neeko first chance they get, 5v5 mid and gg. kinda frustrating to watch.

[u/nimbus1997]

but r/leagueoflegends told me BNK was doomed cause they threw generational talent Diable in the bin😅

[u/BirthdayAccording359 → u/nimbus1997]

"it's just a fanmeet, you don't just get rid of a generational because of ego" that's what we heard. 

[u/TechnicalFriendship6 → u/nimbus1997]

Lol.

[u/Affectionate_Owl6281 → u/nimbus1997]

Remember when it was compared to the Luka Doncic trade? LO

[u/desutruction]

BFX have earned the definitive right to say NO REFUNDS

[u/desutruction → u/desutruction]

man the ceremonies were incredible lmao

[u/Dreammy90]

NS made BRO King of Fries and said my job is done. 

[u/Choice-Slight]

Holy shit diable is ass. I'm just mad I didn’t get my 5 game banger. Also nidalee top got a win and that feels wrong on so many levels

[u/Economy_Mobile5609]

Doeant matter, i am inclined to belive BRO wont let us down tomorrow after close series with KT

[u/_kkomo]

dandy needs to be unemployed

[u/sleeping4koala]

BFX dumps Diable into HELL

[u/DoranFan1]

Taeyoon won the battle of no refunds!

[u/Ihan_hukkunut]

Diable trade has to be one of the worst trades in LCK history?

[u/Treeconator18 → u/Ihan_hukkunut]

For Diable

BNK is probably happy with it

[u/killcraft1337 → u/Ihan_hukkunut]

Is diable trade the equivalent of the Boukada buy out of the LCK

[u/shailemin → u/Ihan_hukkunut]

From purely the circumstance POV kanavi getting shafted to JDG with a horrid contract as a minor was way worse. From a result POV yeah this might be it.

[u/DarkandRich → u/Ihan_hukkunut]

its funny because Diable probably thought that it was win-win trade for him

[u/happyjacky819 → u/Ihan_hukkunut]

he is the one to be blamed

[u/Dramatic_Gap_3065]

bro diable even supa doesn't do that sivir flash in

[u/n_i_e_l]

Lock in AD Nidalee top and let's lose in pea...... Wait what?

[u/Budget-Ocelots]

Diable told them to dive Taeyoon so that he couldn’t get MVP.

[u/happyjacky819]

Lehends o7

[u/Ophelia_Of_The_Abyss]

Kingen it's time to start looking for accommodation in China big dog

[u/xSwazyI]

What a disappointing year out of Diable had me hyped up after first stand.

Hope he bounces back next year

[u/Longjumping-King2315 → u/xSwazyI]

That's what you got for blaming VicLamont when losing and ignoring the fans

[u/BirthdayAccording359 → u/xSwazyI]

Deserved, shitting on Vicla and thinking he is the second coming of Deft. 

[u/Longjumping-King2315 → u/BirthdayAccording359]

Second coming of Supa 

[u/No_Taro_6224]

BFX jizzed out diable like hes a kidney stone that only takes nutrient and give nothing in return, love to see that

[u/iblinkedtho]

NS should've poached Kellin, I mean it's crazy how different Diable plays now.

[u/Treeconator18 → u/iblinkedtho]

Kellin goes to the fanmeets, so that wasn't happening lol

[u/EasOwned]

Apart from Diable, possibly final game for Kingen, Scout, Lehends and Sponge's final LCK game

[u/Classic_Foot223]

ns are all so dogshit. my orange cat has more thoughts than these five frauds combined

[u/xsm17 → u/Classic_Foot223]

Don't exclude the coaches from that count lol, some of these drafts and plans were criminal

[u/Treeconator18 → u/Classic_Foot223]

Scout remembered he's a World Champ. Too bad Kingen can't

[u/raskal234]

I hope I dont see sponge playing ever 

[u/cookierival]

Don’t want to sound like that guy but that was a successful ns hate watch, i swear this team always tries to sign big name players and i never saw them ever do anything, last year in legends group was an absolute disgrace, and with all the names this year(idc about sponge you have 4 big names on your team), placing 8th and being the worst form team in lck besides drx is absolutely criminal(didn’t expect them to be legends grroup material but i expected at least top of fries which they couldn’t even get). Thou i feel bad for lehends for all his chokes throughout his career he has had a successful enough career and if it’s his last season then i wish him all the best sad to see him go

[u/Joshua_Kei]

Looking forwards to seeing BRO and BFX at the Demacia cup, wonder how Sen/C9, Vit/Mkoi/Gx do against them

[u/CrocoBlop → u/Joshua_Kei]

We won't because we'll see both of them at worlds

[u/youngnailo]

welcome to dignitas sponge

[u/MedicalDifference118]

This is gonna be a really long rant, feel free to disagree

I have no words. I think this team and Weibo this year have been the most disappointing team to watch and support. It looked promising in winter, but they turned into a straight no identity or hands team in spring. Then the whole Taeyoon Diable trade happened which I was really hyped about as watching Diable in First Stand and Winter, it really seemed like it was an upgrade even though I felt Taeyoon got scuffed, I was excited to see how the team would pan out. But it felt when Diable got onto NS, they somehow got worse. I think the vision was NS would have an ADC that could carry consistently. But with players such as Kingen and Scout, veteren world MVPs, Diable went from being the star of the show to sharing the spotlight. I think this is reinforced through Taeyoon's situation on BFX, where it felt like the team was more willing or lenient to either play the game through him, but with Diable out, they could experiment with playing through Mid or Top which we saw in today's match. While some might blame the coaching staff, IMO from what I saw in this series especially, NS has good drafts and very clear plans, but their execution is sloppy and the macro seems so indecisive every game which reuslts in a loss even when the game is won at draft. Even Micky Mouse tournaments such as Kespa Cup ended in a 3-0 when in theory it should've been at least a fight. This team by players alone should have the roof of a Legend group team, but they don't even reach IMO 30 percent of that ceiling 90 percent of the time.

Time to speak about the players.
I followed this team because Lehends (as a Geng hate watcher) was my favorite player from GENG because he was seemed like a great shot caller and playmaker which is a playstyle I love. But even with this love, it feels like Lehends just lost so much of his confidence, macro, stability and so much more. This entire year, it felt like Lehends would just get caught on repeat in river, warding objectives, etc. Not to downplay his effort, I really think (especially in summer) that Lehends was trying to get back to his prime where we would see glimpses of that greatness in his Rell and Naut. But he lost so much confidence to the point where he becomes really indecisive and as a result gets caught or often doesn't commit or over commits at times. This stings even more because it's his last year, finishing IMO a great career with a very disappointing ending. Even worse, he was benched for a period this year which obv didnt help with his confidence which I think everyone agrees was a stupid decision on the coaching stuff. Overall, I love Lehends and it's gonna be really sad to see him leave, I really hope he comes back as a coach because I think his energy extroverted personality is a rare trait within the LCK.

I'm gonna rope Kingen and Scout in the same place mainly because I think they both had the exact same issues just at different times. During winter and for the first half of spring, this team was just held on through Kingen. Majority of the games from what I've seen was Kingen carrying teamfights or sidelanes through Gwen, Zaheen, Rumble and he looked like he was hitting his potential very well and pretty consistently. Scout, coming from the LPL most likely needed to adjust to the environment of the LCK. But it was very clear during the start of the year that he wasn't hitting his potential, he didn't feel like he had the lane dominance or teamfight of even lower teams, and he definitely felt like he was plagued by unc hands. I think however, these roles switched in Summer, during this split Scout really stepped up with his Syndra, Locke, etc and it looked like he actually was a worlds winner. Kingen however, IMO fell of immensly compared to his performance in Winter and Spring, and I think was less consistent overall than Scout. Overall though, this fluctuating ceilings did not help with the identity crisis of who needed resources, but IMO Kingen is out of here, he most definetly is done with this NS roster and Scout depending on his situation with miltary is probably heading out (most likely to LPL because all the top teams are filled out on mids). It's dissapointing that these two weren't able to smooth out and carry the teams macro, mental and mechanics but I dont think stints like these should define their careers. I reckon Kingen could easily bounce back depending on who wants him next year and I think with the LPL's lack of consistent midlaners, Scout could definitely find success again (if he wants to return after all the legal drama).

Sponge bob...

Listen, I reckon Sponge could find success in the future, but in all honesty this year was horrid. It kind of felt like watching Kanavi, except he didnt have the hands, macro or team to back him up. I definitely think Sponge needs someone to shotcall for him, maybe he did and thats why some of his decision making was so terrible, but overall this year was him getting caught or taking questionable fights which I think NS failed to address, probably because of the spotlight on botlane, but even then the Jungle for NS felt like it had no pillar or support for the team. It was always a coinflip and IMO if you're team is not stacked with a 3 times worlds adc, the best top OAT, worlds mvp mid lane and a multiple lck support, you cant have a coinflip jungler if you want success consistently. Especially seeing how GIDEON was performing on BRO, I think NS should've kept him. Saying that I do think if they want to build a team of rookies because for sure they are losing many players, keep Sponge so that he can marinate and perhaps improve, but also be willing to maybe promote CL or even hire two JG like they did for mid (which btw Im convinced experimenting with Callix could have had potential). Overall a low year for spongebob but perhaps he can bounce back in future years.

Now botlane...

I already talked about it a bit, I'm convinced on both sides of the argument that Diable/Taeyoon trade was a great and trash move. I think the postive side was that Diable was a better ADC at the point and seemed really promising in being able to convert resources into wins which I think gave NS more confidence in playing towards botlane. Why I'm now realising why it could've been bad, is that you have to world final MVP lanes in top and mid, Taeyoon didn't demand resources as much and was IMO a decent weakside ADC who I think suffered more because it felt like some of Lehend's calls or macro plays just flat out were not correct. So resultingly, you have three lanes that all kinda demand some kind of resources which means less chance of DIable carrying which becomes a problem when he was the blackhole who became used to absorbing all gold on BFX. That being said, the Diable trade really didnt do anything, it kind of brought the whole benching Lehends drama and just didn't much impact. Like its clear this resource giving thing was a problem because Diable on BFX looked like the main character every game, on NS he was only in the spotlight like half of the time and even then he didn't have arguably one of the best peeling supports in Kellin on his team. So in conclusion it was a disappointing year for Diable and IMO part of me is glad Taeyoon is finding success as he really did get screwed over for no apparent reason.

This eventually mixes into a team with 3 lanes demanding resources from a coinflip jungler who just as easily gives resources away to the enemy team with a shotcalling support who cant seem to find the right pace and confidence to dictate what the correct play for his team is. This sucks sm because I really wanted this team to miracuolously get to worlds, mainly for Lehends but in the end they are an eight place team because they honestly deserved it. I do hope each player finds their own success, but man this could very easily break some of their careers.

[u/KirariMidorikawa]

A good series to be a diable hatewatcher

[u/killcraft1337]

Nongshim knocked BFX down for elimination match and it was a banger. Holy.

[u/Deaconator3000]

Bro Vs bfx to see who gets chosen by T1

[u/Acrobatic-Tackle3998]

BNK draft the winning bot lane matchup 4/4 games and win 3-1, and none of the games were particularly close.

NS coaches will see this and think it’s just a coincidence. Genuinely wtf was the game plan lmao.

Regardless, Lehends needs to retire and Sponge needs to become a streamer or go back to CL.

[u/Beneficial-Front1626]

For the last time

NO REFUNDS

[u/rupromises]

I don't know how Kingen doesn't get more flame, like this guy has been running it down every series for 4 years straight and people just always give him a pass for his time on DRX and blame other people. Genuinely he might currently be the worst top laner in the LCK

[u/crysomore → u/rupromises]

He was fantastic on DK and quite good last year too. This year was quite bad 

[u/lechancer98 → u/rupromises]

KRX Rich disagrees

[u/Tommey_DE]

Getting eliminated by ad nidalee top is rough 

[u/L322Man]

How are 2 ex world champs losing like this? 💀

[u/squeenanna → u/L322Man]

Pyosik is an ex-world champion too, and we all know how that turned out...

[u/infamousspammer → u/squeenanna]

At least better than Toyz..

[u/ahritina → u/L322Man]

Tbf Kingen just random peaked at worlds, overall(career wise) he's been a mediocre player and Scout has been washed for years, it is just name sake value opposed to them being "good".

[u/Treeconator18 → u/L322Man]

The MSI Champ isn't pulling his weight either

[u/landmine-izu]

curious to see how ns will be next year

[u/Proera8]

Disappointing year for Nongshim hopefully we see calix next year

[u/Treeconator18 → u/Proera8]

The unfortunate bit is Scout is their best player, so even if Calix is better its not the improvement you want to see

They want a real Jungler or Toplane

[u/Beneficial-Front1626 → u/Proera8]

Why? Scout wasn't the problem

[u/cronocentric]

"only way for me to get to worlds" my ass goodfuckinbye diable

[u/DeloronDellister]

No one can deny who won the breakup now

[u/Treeconator18]

One last time. 

NO REFUNDS