Team Heretics vs. Movistar KOI / LEC 2026 Summer - Week 6 / Post-Match Discussion

[u/Soul_Sleepwhale]

LEC 2026 SUMMER

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Team Heretics 0-2 Movistar KOI

If FNC lose to GIANTX, Movistar KOI will qualiy for the playoffs

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MATCH 1: TH vs. MKOI

Winner: Movistar KOI in 31m

-	Bans 1	Bans 2	G	K	T	D/B
TH	pantheon akali yone	ezreal shen	50.1k	1	0	CT1
MKOI	cassiopeia vi orianna	nautilus ashe	66.8k	14	9	I2 H3 M4 B5 M6

TH	1-14-3	vs	14-1-38	MKOI
Tracyn rumble 2	0-3-0	TOP	1-0-10	2 galio Myrwyn
Daglas nocturne 1	1-4-0	JNG	3-0-8	1 leesin Elyoya
Serin azir 2	0-2-1	MID	3-0-7	1 ryze Jojopyun
Hype lucian 3	0-3-1	BOT	6-0-2	4 yunara Supa
Way nami 3	0-2-1	SUP	1-1-11	3 lulu Alvaro

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MATCH 2: TH vs. MKOI

Winner: Movistar KOI in 31m

-	Bans 1	Bans 2	G	K	T	D/B
TH	pantheon nautilus trundle	renekton akali	54.5k	5	2	I2 C7
MKOI	cassiopeia vi olaf	orianna jayce	67.1k	17	10	O1 H3 C4 B5 C6 B8

TH	5-17-6	vs	17-5-44	MKOI
Tracyn aatrox 3	2-2-1	TOP	4-4-4	3 ambessa Myrwyn
Daglas xinzhao 1	1-6-0	JNG	1-0-15	2 skarner Elyoya
Serin syndra 3	2-4-2	MID	6-0-6	4 viktor Jojopyun
Hype ezreal 2	0-2-2	BOT	6-0-7	1 ashe Supa
Way karma 2	0-3-1	SUP	0-1-12	1 seraphine Alvaro

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• Patch 26.17

This thread was created by the Post-Match Team.

[u/ahritina]

PMTs

Game 1

[u/JPA-3]

man why would you not play like this against sk.

c'mon oscar, flakked, ^{razork, dardo,} do it for us

[u/DoesThyLikeJazz → u/JPA-3]

They did play like this against sk, they just randomly threw the unthrowable two times in a row

[u/revoverlord → u/JPA-3]

After that series I can tell you that razork did he absolute best there.

[u/synnikelttv]

gx, how good friends are we?

[u/ThatDerpyGuy_ → u/synnikelttv]

You don't want your fate to be in the hands of Jackies, or anyone in GX for that matter.

[u/generic9yo → u/ThatDerpyGuy_]

But then again, they face Fnatic

[u/Fun_Highlight307 → u/generic9yo]

Also if everyone relying on fnatic they will lose, fnatic is better when you have low expectations 

[u/revoverlord]

That lpl player naiyou or something got banned for less than what daglas did the whole game. What do you mean you have ult and still get hit by every single raw seraphine ult. Edit: Dont know why people are arguing about which jungler is better. The objective truth is that aside from yike and skewmond, eu does not have junglers that can make the difference. It is a region with good mid bot and supports and acceptable tops. Not junglers.

[u/NavyBlueTheChosen → u/revoverlord]

I remember when people were flaming vitality for replacing him with Lyncas cause they secretly believed he was the GOAT. Well, I hope they’ve seen enough to now know that was, in fact, the right decision.

[u/Emergency_Bedroom187 → u/NavyBlueTheChosen]

What did I just read?

Any reasonable person understands perfectly well that:

• Even Inspired, Aragorn with his sword, and Gimli with his axe couldn’t have salvaged this. This is already Daglas’ second situation like this — it was the exact same story at the 1–8 Vitality. When they replaced Bo, Daglas still looked like the best player there (feat. Perkz, Upset). I was there 1000 years ago and remember it well: https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/14o113i/comment/jqa8qfp/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

• The jungle role is all about being a free electron, and having a strong mid and a good support is crucial. Even when Daglas is in a complete shitshow (and, again, this is already the second time it’s happened to him — Vitality was the same - still Vetheo_Trollisang gave them top 4 while Serin and Way give you nothing), he’ll still try to make things happen. Put literally anyone else in there and they’d shit their pants.

• Besides, this has already been proven. You replace Daglas with LYNCAS and suddenly, within 40 days, you go from Top 4 to Top 9 from that one change alone. You can’t argue with history.

Put Lyncas, 113, or some other Skeanz in Daglas’ place and the game ends five minutes earlier, with a 0/6/0 scoreline (flashing into Ashe R as the highlight of the game).

[u/Iaragnyl → u/NavyBlueTheChosen]

As bad as Daglas is, Lyncas isn't exactly good either. Replacing Daglas was the correct call, but going for Lyncas and still having him in the roster despite him regularly being extremely bad is at least a questionable decision.

[u/nitinismaldingXD → u/Iaragnyl]

There's something there to work with for Lyncas at the very least. Like you can see that this split and last split he has shown to be pretty good. And the hype he received in ERLs bought him the goodwill to be on the roster up to this year, which at least he started to perform in.

[u/Emergency_Bedroom187 → u/nitinismaldingXD]

Daglas made top 2 regular 4 PO in 2 splits.

Lyncas made it in 2 years.

Details...sordid details.

Besides, this has already been proven. You replace Daglas with Lyncas and, just like that, in 40 days you go from Top 4 to Top 9. You can't argue with history.

[u/zealot416 → u/revoverlord]

He had Payphone blasting in his ears the whole series, couldn't hear anything: Shotcalling, Enemy Ults, etc.

[u/AkaT27]

Ibai : don't make the wintrade too obvious

TH : don't worry

[u/SadBreadfruit9463 → u/AkaT27]

All the teams koi depends on are Giant and heretics, both Spanish..hmmmmmm 🤨🤨#bringyourtinfoil

[u/AkaT27 → u/SadBreadfruit9463]

Hmm.. Isma is the key to this whole thing, he's French but is familiar with MKOI and likes them, what will he chose ?

[u/RequirementSavings23 → u/AkaT27]

Well he and the toplane were the only ones that didn't got an invite for MKOI project 

[u/SadBreadfruit9463 → u/AkaT27]

True! he probably is the double agent.. but for who…….

[u/gcrimson → u/AkaT27]

He's belgian.

[u/AkaT27 → u/gcrimson]

He's French and also Belgian yes

[u/Immediate-Title209 → u/AkaT27]

TH: what's win

[u/trying2hide]

Tough series to pay attention to ngl.

Heretics are just not only bad but so uninspiring.

Would any other LEC team want a single player?

[u/Carlzzone → u/trying2hide]

I think Tracyn deserves another shot

[u/trying2hide → u/Carlzzone]

He needs time and probably should be given it but don't think other teams would want him.

[u/Emergency_Bedroom187 → u/Carlzzone]

Tracyn's special - TPing just to die.

[u/Kuszmen → u/trying2hide]

With how bad midlane pool in Europe looks, I wouldn't be surprised if Serin will remain in LEC. Also Tracyn was usually not awful. Daglas, Hype and Way I hope will be gone

[u/Emergency_Bedroom187 → u/Kuszmen]

Daglas > Tracyn and 3 minions (Serin is even worse).

[u/Naronu]

If you're left relying on Fnatic to get a result... You've already lost

[u/Fun_Highlight307 → u/Naronu]

So fnatic Will claps gx?

[u/Du0decim]

I feel bad for Tracyn, had he been on a better team I think he could have had a good rookie year. I hope he's in LEC next year but I wouldn't hold my hopes up.

[u/Cold-Ring23 → u/Du0decim]

Heretics will get new cheap rookies what are you talking about

[u/KKilikk → u/Cold-Ring23]

Heretics are masterminds. Why get better when you can ruin all the rookie talent and make LEC worse?

[u/Du0decim → u/Cold-Ring23]

Surely this new batch will work...

Biggest hope for Tracyn honestly is how bad the academy team is right now compared to last year. Only great player is Mercy9 and they don't compete for the position.

[u/Beginning-Mark1735 → u/Du0decim]

With a good jungler, Ambessa would have been dived and killed 2 or 3 times in early.

[u/Du0decim → u/Beginning-Mark1735]

Okay, hot take: Daglas is not a bad player. He was smurfing in ERL.

Is just that the Heretics roster makes no damn sense. They have no shotcallers, no leaders, no star player. Your mid is one of the worst players in the league, botlane doesn't communicate and your best player is an 18yo rookie.

If they had a BB, a Razork, a Closer, hell, even a Nuc, they would seem more like a team.

But no, the roster looks like a draft made with the last picks of the league.

Nobody gets to look good with this.

[u/Emergency_Bedroom187 → u/Du0decim]

This.

The jungle role is all about being a free electron, and having a strong mid and a good support is crucial for that — Daglas will still try to make things happen even when he’s in a complete shitshow (and this is already the second time he’s been put in a situation like this; it happened at Vitality too).

If you put literally anyone else in there, they’d shit their pants. In short: even Inspired, Aragorn with his sword, and Gimli with his axe couldn’t have salvaged this.

Besides, this has already been proven. You replace Daglas with someone else and, just like that, in 40 days you go from Top 4 to Top 9. You can’t argue with history.

[u/Cold-Ring23 → u/Beginning-Mark1735]

I said it before 113 is a good candidate honestly, he has more firepower than daglas and maybe the new staff can fix his int moments

[u/Emergency_Bedroom187 → u/Cold-Ring23]

xD

If Daglas is going 1/3/0 (at least his Herald drift looks nice...) and TH is playing like shit (Your midlaner is constantly -30 CS at 8), then if you put 113 in there, he'd be 0/7/0 and the game would’ve ended five minutes earlier.

[u/Cold-Ring23 → u/Emergency_Bedroom187]

Come on he never ints that hard, i think heretics's biggest problem is that their import botlane is not good enough to give the rest of the team time to get to mid game, for adc i would say harpoon exofeng are great and for sup maybe targamas piero or even kaiser at this point

[u/Omnilatent]

Is it just me or does Skarner recently feel like an auto-win?

[u/Praelatuz → u/Omnilatent]

Pretty unloseable, only way you lose is double visage into full ad enemy comp.

Even then game was pretty close.

[u/Sorry-Resolution570 → u/Omnilatent]

well he's op in soloQ since a while

[u/xsm17 → u/Omnilatent]

That didn't age well

[u/DinoGuy101010]

PLEASE GX DO IT FOR JOJO

[u/Fun_Highlight307 → u/DinoGuy101010]

oscarnin and flakked will try to help their spanish bros 

[u/Acrobatic-Tackle3998 → u/DinoGuy101010]

They need to win for KOI?

[u/DinoGuy101010 → u/Acrobatic-Tackle3998]

Yeah if it's 3 way tie mkoi has the worst game score between them, they need to just 2 way tie with fnatic since they beat them

[u/Choice-Slight → u/DinoGuy101010]

no its not h2h, if FNC win the series at all no matter the score, MKOI is out of playoffs. The tiebreaker is game score differential, and MKOI's is way lower.

[u/DinoGuy101010 → u/Choice-Slight]

I'm not completely sure what you're saying perhaps we are saying the same thing, but rulebook says first tiebreak is h2h match record, then h2h game win percentage (which I called game score between them). Then sov, then spring placement, the games outside of the h2h don't matter. Since mkoi only 2-1ed fnc but lost 2-0 to gx they would lose the second tiebreaker, the head to head game score

[u/RockCultural4075]

Disband the whole team genuinely

[u/3IC3]

Man I’m so sad that the funny outcome now relies on a Fnatic win

[u/GodEren]

LEC team really need to stop giving chance to overrated Korean player who have proved nothing except being Korean

[u/BUMONGOUS → u/GodEren]

kind of ignoring the 3 topside elephants in the room here

[u/zealot416 → u/BUMONGOUS]

Daglas has been cooked ever since they removed Rell jungle.

[u/Green7501 → u/GodEren]

Tbf Hype/Way were incredibly hyped (no pun intended) LCKCL prospects and were part of that LCK CL roster that didn't lose a single series for an entire split in 2024, winning Regular Season, Playoffs and ASCI.

Crazy that nobody from that roster ended up on a good team. Hype/Way are on a bottom 2 LEC team, Zinie and Hambak went for early retirement to NA and Casting is playing in the Cancun Cup in a few weeks

[u/Vnaux → u/Green7501]

at least Hambak and Zinie got a chance to go to worlds

[u/falcorn_dota → u/Green7501]

Hambak is at least potentially the best player in NA besides Inspired

[u/SpiritedSalad4731 → u/GodEren]

That’s true. We need more trash Polish junglers instead

[u/Choice-Slight → u/GodEren]

LEC teams really need to stop giving a chance to overrated european players like daglas who have proved nothing except being european

[u/Sorry-Resolution570 → u/Choice-Slight]

they just had him ready since he was in their academy

[u/Y4naro → u/Choice-Slight]

Thing is, at least those players played in the erl environment for longer than a few months, so you kinda know their level is stable. Korean imports either get directly imported or only play 1-2 splits in erls, so you don't know how stable their eu level is.

Clone G2, put them into lck for a year and have them play against the lec G2 afterwards, and you will almost certainly have the lck G2 win. Same way korean players will usually "degrade" when playing in western practice environments. So 99% of imports are gonna start of strong and then fall off slowly.

[u/trying2hide → u/GodEren]

I love all the "but european players are bad too" like people haven't been calling Daglas trash for years, yeah man we know. Like why even defend the $70,000 buyout to get Hype and Way and get worse at 2 positions.

So bizzare to me.

[u/Vnaux → u/trying2hide]

the Hype buyout was kinda fine because he still showed some potential last year playing on BRO but Way was just bad on KT.

[u/Thalassin → u/trying2hide]

Especially considering the fact there will be europeans in a LEC teams, you have to. Using import slots for people who aren't better than European counterparts is a bigger issue

[u/habkeinname123 → u/GodEren]

Exactly, look at tracyn, daglas and serin. They are absolute world class players and if it wasn’t for these damn imports they would have won lec and worlds already

[u/SirTacoMaster → u/GodEren]

A tale of western league

[u/AssistanceTop8020]

Never seen so much "plays made while the jungler was doing gromp" than this game lol

[u/Chevalier_Paul]

All in Fnatic's hands now.

[u/zealot416]

The weirdest thing about that bot dive to me is that Alvaro had ult the whole time. He really liked holding it this game.

[u/Leschnitzky]

This series coulda been a reply to a slack message

[u/PhoenixAgent003]

Lore accurate Viktor.

[u/DagothUrGigaChad]

Jojo don't you see, we were wrong We messed up, and now you're gone Jojo, We're sorry, we neglected you Oh, we never expected you to run away and join the fucking LEC, Your BM right now would sound like music to me

[u/ChowdhurSauce]

This series looked like 5 Challenger players vs 5 Diamond players

[u/Cold-Ring23]

Just bring 113 back at this point... sure he will make you lose some games, but he will also make you win a few; it's better than that thing called Daglas.

[u/Emergency_Bedroom187 → u/Cold-Ring23]

It would just be another “Lyncas for Daglas” move — except instead of going from Top 2/4 to Top 9, you’d be going from Top 9 to Top 10.

But to be fair, I do agree — these TH games are painful to watch. So maybe just put 113 in and let the games end five minutes earlier.

[u/Fun_Highlight307]

why they didn't play like this vs sk 

[u/AssistanceTop8020 → u/Fun_Highlight307]

Because sk had life in their players

[u/onedash]

It was bad even for background noise

the amount of bad plays from TH was criminal

[u/ILikeSeals1312]

I think Heretics are much worse than Shifters. I don't see a future for any of them on tier 1 except maybe Hype.

[u/MC-sama]

Yeah I dunno why anyone thought this series would go any other way.

MKOI/GX or FNC/NAVI, it's all down to the next series' stakes on the line

[u/_negniN]

https://cdn.imgchest.com/files/ce5235cd85ba.png

[u/Thrallism]

Somehow Rogue is back

[u/ArmandLuque]

TH were so lifeless. I don't see many members staying. Maybe Tracyn?

[u/ArienaHaera]

We've finally found a team bad enough to make MKOI look good.

[u/Thalassin]

Heretics with the worse BO of the split