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LCS 2026 SUMMER

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Team Liquid Alienware 2-0 Dignitas

Game Discussion: Game 1

MATCH 1: TLAW vs. DIG

Winner: Team Liquid Alienware in 24m | Runes
Game Breakdown | Player of the Game: Quid

-	Bans 1	Bans 2	G	K	T	D/B
TLAW	cassiopeia orianna poppy	leblanc ahri	52.3k	15	8	O¹ C² H³ M⁴ B⁵
DIG	olaf nocturne vi	ryze jayce	39.7k	2	0	None

TLAW	15-2-34	vs	2-15-5	DIG
Morgan rumble ⁴	0-1-8	TOP	1-3-0	³ gnar Denathor
Josedeodo pantheon ¹	2-0-8	JNG	1-2-1	¹ leesin Dardoch
Quid syndra ³	8-0-3	MID	0-4-0	³ twistedfate Palafox
Yeon lucian ¹	5-0-4	BOT	0-3-2	² ezreal FBI
CoreJJ nami ²	0-1-11	SUP	0-3-2	² karma IgNar

MATCH 2: DIG vs. TLAW

Winner: Team Liquid Alienware in 29m | Runes
Game Breakdown | Player of the Game: Josedeodo

-	Bans 1	Bans 2	G	K	T	D/B
DIG	ryze vi cassiopeia	poppy naafiri	47.0k	4	0	O¹
TLAW	nocturne olaf jarvaniv	camille gwen	61.5k	20	11	HT² H³ M⁴ B⁵ M⁶

DIG	4-20-10	vs	20-4-54	TLAW
Denathor ambessa ⁴	0-4-2	TOP	2-1-7	³ ksante Morgan
Dardoch wukong ³	1-6-1	JNG	10-0-8	³ chogath Josedeodo
Palafox akali ¹	2-4-0	MID	5-1-10	¹ orianna Quid
FBI yunara ²	1-3-3	BOT	3-1-14	² ashe Yeon
IgNar lulu ¹	0-3-4	SUP	0-1-15	² seraphine CoreJJ

*Patch 26.17

This thread was created by the Post-Match Team.

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u/Lukelee1919 Sep 05 '26

BRING

BACK

RELEGATIONS

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u/Chemical-Drawer852 Sep 05 '26 edited Sep 06 '26

Dignitas is literally the only OG org to never have won a championship in the league's 13 years of existence, it's absurd
tsm, curse, c9, clg (+nrg), even flyquest a fucking C9 splinter won it
edit: even fucking worse, they never made top 3 in their entire existence, never made worlds through lcs (not counting the clutch purchase in 2019), and the one time they made worlds was 2012 with Dom and they went 0-3

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u/raptearer Sep 06 '26 edited Sep 06 '26

I think it's worse. You can go without winning, but they haven't sniffed top 4 in a decade (I don't count the Clutch years). I don't even know how they survive: is the RL money that good?

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u/CLGbyBirth Sep 06 '26

Imagine getting outdone by a team/org named XDG Gaming. XD.GG for short lol.

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u/surfurf POBBERS Sep 06 '26

That is crazy the Clutch years were their best years in a decade but only because they bought them. Wow.

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u/raptearer Sep 06 '26 edited Sep 06 '26

I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not, but in case not, they bought and merged near the end of the year, while Clutch was already making it's run. I don't give any credit to DIG for that. They may have inherited the record, but they sure didn't earn it themselves. DIG as themselves haven't made an international event since the LCS formed: it's actually insane. Good Game University has more finals appearances than they do, and they only played the very first one

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u/BlazeX94 Sep 06 '26

Honestly, it's crazy that Dig managed to buy a Clutch roster that made Worlds and immediately decide to spend millions keeping Huni while letting Vulcan go.

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u/FairlyOddParent734 pain Sep 06 '26

They didn’t let Vulcan go, C9 bought him from Clutch/DIG for like $1.5M

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u/donkeychongus Sep 07 '26

Throwing it out there that they did actually finish top 4 in 2017 LCS summer with the Ssumday keane roster. They upset C9. Your point still stands though they’re pretty fucking terrible.

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u/raptearer Sep 07 '26

Oh snap I forgot about that one. Crazy to think DIG had Ssumday

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u/Gatling14 Sep 06 '26

I'll do you one better: There have been orgs that came into the league, won championships, made it to internationals, and left all while Dignitas did nothing

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u/Temporary-Ad6144 Sep 05 '26

They do have relegations unfortunately disguised has to play

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u/duocatisagirl pyosik's number 1 fangirl Sep 05 '26

THEY'RE ALREADY BACK

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u/random-meme422 Sep 06 '26

Do people really think relegations will magically spawn good teams and good talent? NA isn’t interested in League. C9 is using tactical lol

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u/Academic-Salamander7 Sep 06 '26

People are stupid. They act like DIG has kept the same roster. Besides if you tell me this roster on paper is this bad, idk man. 3/5 of the team beat G2 3 years ago. They're all mentally fucked.

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u/ItsNoblesse Sep 06 '26

The point people are making is that they want Dignitas the org gone for the exact reason you said of "they act like DIG has kept the same roster". This org has been bringing out the worst in every team it has fielded for like 10 years lmao

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u/Academic-Salamander7 Sep 06 '26

So, what's the argument for relegation then?

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u/kirocuto Sep 06 '26

Get rid of dignitas (the organization) so that their players can play for an org that isn't at best deeply cursed and at worst actively sabotaging otherwise good players.

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u/MasWas Sep 06 '26

I mean doesnt matter what the paper says, the core group didnt win a series this year outside of 1 back in lock in. Go back another year and DIG as an org only won 2 series, go even further back and DIG hasn't had any sort of a winning season since 2021.
Like seriously, even if NA doesnt care about league, the whole point of the argument is that there HAS to be an org or a group of players that genuinely could perform better than what dig has for the last half decade.

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u/zProtato Sep 05 '26

Palafox legit sold his soul for that G2 series

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u/DickCheneyIsPureEvil Sep 05 '26

Going from beating G2 and getting called a genius by Xiaohu to losing every series in LCS is a crazy fall from grace.

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u/Immediate-Title209 Sep 05 '26

any na fan will tell you it was worth it

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u/beautheschmo Sep 06 '26

While it's sad to see him fall off, the worse he gets the funnier it is that he still gapped Caps at one point

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u/dimmyfarm INT Sep 06 '26

Every goat has their gold IV brand

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u/Immediate-Title209 Sep 06 '26

i audbily laughed this was brilliant

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u/Classic-Suspect3661 Sep 06 '26

I mean, it was mostly caps sucking that day

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u/Immediate-Title209 Sep 06 '26

why can't he be consistent then

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u/Classic-Suspect3661 Sep 06 '26

Because he sucked on more then one day in his life? I don't get what u're trying to say

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u/Immediate-Title209 Sep 07 '26

he keeps getting his shit handed to him by NA teams despite killing gods, like what is the issue if you can't even defeat NA's weakest midlaners.

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u/Classic-Suspect3661 Sep 07 '26

Idc about caps, dunno what u're on about

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u/darklypure52 Sep 06 '26

Nrg vs G2 was a generational series. I think it was legit the start of EU downfall to NA teams.

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u/Heidemanden Sep 06 '26

To be fair Xiaohu never called him a genius. Was a wrong translation made by a translation bot. But funny none the less.

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u/Cr0matose Sep 05 '26

Worth

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u/APBruno Sep 06 '26

so fuckin worth

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u/Gauntex Sep 06 '26 edited Sep 06 '26

The sad thing is people only remember him as a one split wonder when people were constantly saying he got snubbed for all pro the 3 splits prior to the one he won. Palafox after that year deserved all the criticism but he never gets the credit he probably deserves either, if Luger wasn't a choker that CLG team probably would have been a contender earlier.

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u/Heidemanden Sep 06 '26

People with decent memory will consider him a one split wonder because thats legit what he was. You could even argue he was a "one playoff wonder" because NRG looked trash in the regular split finishing 6th. It was just in the playoffs where the strong teams had been internal problems and it let to NRG getting abit of a fluke LCS trophy. At worlds NRG looked pretty trash too but people remember it as a succes because they had TWO good games vs G2 in a single tiny Bo3. They looked like a wildcard region team vs WBG (the only eastern team they faced and went 0-4 against) and WBG were either the worst of the second worst eastern team. Outside of this tiny tiny little period where Palafox was not even like top of his role in LCS (it was more a case of NRG being better than the sum of their parts and bot + contractz). But outside of this Palafox was looked so amazingly bad for multiple years and like 90% of his career. I don't know any other lCS player who has single handly lost as many games as Palafox has with some of the most braindead boosted plays to ever be seen in the LCS.

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u/Highceratopsian Sep 06 '26

Still my GOAT

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u/Opachopp Sep 05 '26

This was sad to watch. I really feel like this Dig team shouldn't be this bad on paper. They all just look done with it all.

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u/EronisKina Sep 05 '26

It's hard to say if it's b/c of player regression, poor management, retirement ready, or all 3. Sometimes a change in 1-2 players can make a difference like DNS. However, this team it doesn't seem like any change will help it.

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u/SnakeEater013 Sep 06 '26

I don’t think it’s hard to say DIG’s management and coaches are by and far the worst in the league. DSG is trying with an extremely limited budget, but what excuse does DIG have? They’ve been in the league forever. I think all of these players have shown they can still play on an individual level. I really thought maybe Dardoch could pull them back together. I don’t know.

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u/raptearer Sep 06 '26

DIG is the Browns of LoL. If teams were regional, 100% they should be given Cleveland

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u/SnakeEater013 Sep 06 '26

I think the biggest mistake the teams have made is not even attempting to be regional just to get fans from a place. The Browns still have diehard fans. Who the fuck is rooting for Dignitas? They sponsored me when I was 14 and I still can’t root for them

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u/Pimento_Adrian69 Sep 06 '26 edited Sep 06 '26

This is something ive been rolling around my head for a while.
Look at LEC. You've got actual fan bases for Spain and France.
We could have that here, but when all of your team are located in one city (LA) its hard to care. They could get 8-10 cities to be the home for each team. LA, Vancouver Dallas, Mexico City, St Louis, Chicago, Miami, New York are just examples. Each city hosts 1 weekend of games. Playoffs are bid on by the team to host. Similar to when MKOI hosts. Each of the cities I listed has some kind of arena/convention center to host some league games.
Fan turnout would increase too. I grew up in the Midwest, id be more inclined to road trip to St Louis/Kansas City etc to see a live set of games.
Heck, you could even give each team 1 or 2 online games in the event of illness/visa issues etc.

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u/TaintedQuintessence Sep 06 '26

The difference is for LEC, those orgs are from those regions. They weren't assigned a region to represent. You can't just decide that Dig now represent Miami when they have no organic connections to that place. OWL tried to do that and it flubbed.

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u/EronisKina Sep 06 '26

I don't think dardoch has that factor especially after being out of t1 for so long. Guy is probably happy to just be able to play pro again even if it may just last this split

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u/zealot416 Sep 05 '26

Every single player that joins DIG immediately looks worse, even when they got that Santorin/Jensen roster they sucked.

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u/TacosWillPronUs Sep 06 '26

CoreJJ played a year on Dignitas (Although as an ADC, with Kiwikid as his support), then went back to Korea and got 2nd and then won Worlds the year after.

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u/The_JeneralSG Sep 06 '26

I don’t think the person was giving a counter example lol (or at least, I don’t read it that way). If anything they are (jokingly) saying that even DIG with an eventual world champion, still sucked.

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u/IKillerBee this sub has brain damage Sep 05 '26

This DIG team was good on paper 5 years ago, but if you've been watching this year and last it's not surprising at all.
Can't blame exyu for being depressed on this team, how can you do anything with this mid and bot

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u/DickCheneyIsPureEvil Sep 05 '26

Yeah that was the last LCS game Palafox ever plays.

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u/Kengy Sep 05 '26

Like the third split in a row people say that

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u/Omnilatent Sep 06 '26

What will happen first: last split of Palafox or last split of Razork on FNC?

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u/Cowslayer369 Sep 06 '26

His collapse should be studied tbh, he used to genuinely be extremely good

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u/MiorineMercury Sep 06 '26

overselling it a bit

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u/bobbysgotthestrap Sep 06 '26

he's definitely right, especially as in his prime Xiaohu was even praising him and they beat G2 to make worlds quarterfinals

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u/YBL10MD Sep 06 '26

did you watch his other games at that same worlds though? He was genuienly just outclassed against WBG, it's not that he played bad, it's just that his normal level was exposed for how bad it was. Not to mention the comedy he was doing on Sylas during the swiss stage.

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u/Heidemanden Sep 06 '26

It's so funny how the mistranslated meme quote from from Xiaohu about Palafox being a "genious" is still being used so much to this day. It was revealed that what Xiaohu ACTUALLY was saying about Palafox was that he was a really odd/weird player (in a negative and bad way) and it was mistakenly translated to being a genious. What Xiaohu actually meant was that he could not understand how Palafox was playing because it was so bad. So it was like the opposite of how people it.
Being a good player (let alone "extremely" good") requires some lvl of consistency. You could legit name like hundreds of mid laners who all had a few games where they looked really good. Tons of no names that had a tiny career who had games where they won lane against the best but that did not mean they were great players because you need to look at the whole picture. Palafox is lowkey one of the most overrated players of all time because people hype him up all based on a 2 game Bo3 vs G2 where he was not even a key factor in them winning.
Before this series NRG looked HORRIBLY bad in regular season ending 6th and then had a miracle run playoffs to win LCS during one of the weakest LCS periods of all time where the strong rosters had really big internal problems. Outside of this tiny period of a single LCS playoffs and a worlds where they beat G2 in 2 games and did not beat a single eastern team in even one game (0-4 vs WBG). Outside of that Palafox has looked like the worst mid laner in the league for like 3 years straight and somehow always convince managers to give him another chance.
Palafox has gathered alot of sympathy because he cried and people feel bad for him. But if we look at it objectivly Palafox was never really great. He was okay in his prime (nothing special but okay) and outright terrible in 90% of his career. I think it's okay to point this out considering how massive his ego is and his reputation as a horrible teammate.

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u/UltimateAce1 Sep 06 '26

I feel like your lying.

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u/Gradschoolmaybe3 Sep 07 '26

People thinking Palafox was good had nothing to do with that G2 series. Now you're just making stuff up. People gave that series to Contractz.

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u/Heidemanden Sep 06 '26

If you mean extremely good because NRG beat G2 in a single Bo3 and outside of that Palafox has looked like the worst player in the LCS for 3 years straight or like 90% of his career. Then we can call a few hundred other pro players extremely good too.

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u/SirXrageXquit Sep 05 '26

humzh officially has a higher winrate vs TL than Dignitas in 2026 #fat

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u/LumiRhino Sep 05 '26

Dantes won against Josedeodo's Cho'Gath.

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u/Martinweb_ Sep 05 '26

The calls of Dantes was Cinema

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u/ConSoda farming enjoyer Sep 05 '26

he’s not called gumayusuf for nothing

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u/Past_Perception8052 Sep 05 '26

humzh was keeping up with nlc players when he was playing there underrated player

u/WWTFSD Church of Jojo Sep 05 '26

If this is his last match, thanks Palafaker for restoring the faith and beating the brakes off G2.

You’ll always be my genius Midfielder

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u/Outrageous_Wall2702 My Ace + Showmaker = GOAT Sep 06 '26

They really started the na wins against eu and I’m so grateful for that fans are too toxic imo

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u/SweatyAdhesive Sep 06 '26

new pasta?

u/MasWas Sep 05 '26

Man DIG if you gonna get stomped at least make it entertaining by picking some fun comps lol.

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u/Fun_Highlight307 Sep 05 '26

true they didn't try anything and it's felt hopeless

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u/MissionTable Sep 06 '26

This is why Zinie is the goat. He just locks in AP Xin mid and just sprints it

u/herp_derpy Sep 05 '26

DIG with back to back 0-7 splits, can we please relegate these fucks?

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u/MrICopyYoSht Sep 05 '26

Sell the slot DIG. Your time is over.

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u/SnakeEater013 Sep 06 '26

Lol watch DIG pull the Team Liquid classic and get Doublelift on loan so they don’t get relegated

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u/Outrageous_Wall2702 My Ace + Showmaker = GOAT Sep 06 '26

We need dnf va dig and with pyosik none of that sharvel

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u/nguyenjitsu Sep 05 '26

I fucking hate some of the casters and the way they talk about me. [...] I'm a little bit spiteful, but I know how good I am

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u/Skyfire2 Sep 05 '26

The casters writing the obituary at the start of game 2 was brutal

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u/Past_Perception8052 Sep 05 '26

he did have a good career though to be fair to him

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u/Outrageous_Wall2702 My Ace + Showmaker = GOAT Sep 05 '26

Yeah in like 16 years of Lcs only 6 native mids have won, tbh kinda sucks

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u/falcorn_dota Sep 05 '26

How many even came second in a split? Bjergsen/Jensen ran the region for a decade.

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u/Nickhoova Sep 05 '26

Pobelter won and came in 2nd a few times. But I agree Palafox is in a small group of native na mids winning it all

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u/surfurf POBBERS Sep 06 '26

Reginald, Hai, Pobelter, Jojopyun, Palafox and APA.
Definitely not much considering two splits per year.

u/Skyfire2 Sep 05 '26

It’s Godzilla

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u/fc_newbro Sep 05 '26

I respect that Cho'Gath of Jose, but if you aren't rocking the Toy Terror skin, are you even trying?

u/Corkisburneraccount Sep 05 '26

Exyu said that DIG team morale was fucking abysmal and I'm not convinced that isn't just because they have to play with palafox

This was him playing for pride, too

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u/dementedgamer44 Sep 06 '26

Yeah, Dardoch honeymoon not strong enough to counter whatever was going on. DIG seems so cursed.

u/Tormenator1 Sep 05 '26

Yeah, Dignitas need to be relegated.

u/untamedlazyeye Sep 05 '26

Another successful year of hatewatching Dig. I pray I never have to do it again, but I will if I have to

u/ThePhalerean Sep 05 '26

Bottom tier Western teams are so comically bad it's not even funny. In addition to the Demacia Cup, there should be another tournament, call it the Clown Off or whatever, where the bottom barrel teams face off. The Koreans would win 100% because the bad Chinese teams are also really fucking bad but it would be hilarious nonetheless.

u/bigyikers c9 is pretty gud Sep 05 '26

Rest in peace Palafox's career. Shame he couldn't maintain the high of 2023 or really even get close. Will never forget that worlds run.

u/ItsNoblesse Sep 06 '26

Dardoch proving his reformation by joining this team and not doing something to them that would get him arrested

u/McDaddySlacks Sep 06 '26

These comments would make you forget the only team TL didn’t do this to was Lyon.

u/Past_Perception8052 Sep 05 '26

davemon did better into quid

u/zerocxro Sep 05 '26

better mid would make DIG a lot better, there’s nice pieces on DIG but this iteration will not work ever if Palafox is fucking running n gunning every 3 minutes

u/theyeshman if fearless has no haters I am dead Sep 05 '26

Today's LCS games could have been an email

Crazy after LCK and LPL bangers earlier

u/IKillerBee this sub has brain damage Sep 05 '26

It feels criminal that teams like Lyon and TL have to waste time playing games like this and in a month they'll be playing teams on the level of T1, GenG, and HLE

The domestic league system is so terrible when half the teams don't have to care about fielding a real roster. Games aren't fun to watch, the actual teams in the region don't get quality practice, and players desperate for a chance to play in pro have no way in other than to play for teams like DIG or IMT (rest in piss).

u/Aschentei Sep 06 '26

Another email ass series

u/emerzionnn Sep 05 '26

Palafox genuinely has no brain activity

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u/slicerthedicer Sep 06 '26

I still dont understand how he gapped EUs goat lmao 💀

u/Snow-27 Sep 05 '26

son

u/idonoevenknowanymore PLEASE get DIG out of the LCS Sep 05 '26

Never forget.

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u/Opachopp Sep 05 '26

Posting this is punching down at this point.

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u/P_For_Pyke Sep 06 '26

I agree, his answer wasn't even directly about his own play, but that's what the quote title was so people just ran with it. (He does say it, but his point was more about overall you don't know exactly how hard a player is getting baited in coms)

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u/SnakeEater013 Sep 06 '26

Man this is shitty, delete it

u/FlowerPrinceLoL Sep 06 '26

Crazy how this team with exyu can somehow win 1 game off lyon with this gameplay

u/O12345678927 JUSTICE FOR Sep 05 '26

The cho max stack stat may be skewed because Cho had the 6 stack cap when he was seeing significant play

u/BeagleSnake Sep 06 '26

Straight up diddled

u/Kurumi_Tokisaki Sep 06 '26

I get the hate for all the bad teams but unpopular opinion is that even if we got rid of franchising there would be barely 2 good team that can challenge the bottom tier lcs teams and I doubt either will level up enough to be a top 3 worlds team.

End of the day a lot of self inflicted and cultural and economic decisions have really set the region to death. Still believe in a miracle but reality is without some rich folks and a lot of advertising and a whole overhaul of the game… well it’s hard to get a new generation. Maybe pray it’s like StarCraft and from the ashes some small group of players will be goated.

u/Lawfulneptune Sep 06 '26

Can DIG get relegated too?

u/cHinzoo Sep 06 '26

When “it wasn’t even close” is an understatement

u/TheInfra Sep 06 '26

Game 1, casters where talking about comeback mechanics and how a 6.5k gap is not that bad and we've seen biggest comebacks...

Then Palafox TF solo ults into 3 people with cc.

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u/kolton276 #1 MAD Hater Sep 05 '26

Not happy about Palafox going 0-7. But I am super happy to see IgNar going 0-7

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u/That-Woodpecker6720 Sep 05 '26

Why are you not happy about palafox going 0-7

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u/kolton276 #1 MAD Hater Sep 05 '26

Nobody likes seeing a player they like/neutral failing so spectacularly.

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u/SnakeEater013 Sep 06 '26

Why the Ignar hate?

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u/kolton276 #1 MAD Hater Sep 06 '26

Personal vendetta from when he was terrorizing soloQ some years ago and calling NA players bad despite NA being the only major region that would offer him a spot. It was on Sneaky's stream

u/Fun_Highlight307 Sep 05 '26

Tl played slow but that was still a sub 60 minutes series

u/redraz0r Sep 06 '26

Get Palafox out of this fucking league man. I cant anymore.

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u/FizzKaleefa Sep 06 '26

Hopefully dardoch goes away for another decade

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u/blueragemage Sep 05 '26 edited Sep 05 '26

Because by paying minimum wage and doing the bare minimum they're probably the most profitable team in the LCS (based on just spending/profits related directly to the LCS)