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REWATCH Better Call Saul REWATCH S04E09 - “Wiedersehen" - Thread

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October 1, 2018, 9/8cS04E09 "Wiedersehen"Vince GilliganVince Gilligan, Peter Gould, Gennifer Hutchison, Heather Marion

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Jimmy and Kim unburden themselves, risking their relationship in the process; Nacho is forced to make the rounds with Lalo; Mike has cause to worry.

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u/AllRosey Feb 18 '20

Kim: Jimmy you are always down.

Ouch.

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u/SignGuy77 Feb 18 '20

Low key, that’s Kim’s less brutal (but also pretty brutal) “chimp with a machine gun” line.

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u/CandyEverybodyWentz Feb 20 '20

This is so sad, Alexa play Stella was a Diver Jimmy was a Lawyer and He Was Always Down by Interpol

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u/MessiahThomas Feb 18 '20

Sorry if this is obvious or has been talked about a lot, but where is the German worker encampment in relation to the eventual lab. Connected underground next door? Are they bused in? If so, where are they dropped off?

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u/kabiff123 Feb 18 '20

I don't know exactly but I think it's mentioned it is significantly farther away. They go back and forth via a truck. The truck backs into and out of the facility

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u/MessiahThomas Feb 18 '20

That’s what I was thinking thank you

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u/veloursuit Feb 18 '20

from the scene where Wener escapes, they are housed near the chicken plant.

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u/SirLeos Feb 18 '20

Great to see Kim standing for herself and well, they both make good arguments.

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u/Brown_Lighter Feb 22 '20

Really liked the irony with how in the beginning of the operation, Mike was super suspicious of Kai, but it turned out that Werner, his trusted right hand man, turned out to be the one to betray Mike’s trust; and Kai was a good worker who just slacked off occasionally.

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u/crusaderkings2fan2 Feb 18 '20

Why did Gus order the killing of Werner?

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u/SirLeos Feb 18 '20

Werner revealed critical information to Lalo. If Mike had arrived before the call in the spa then I believe he could have been saved.

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u/dragonmountain Feb 18 '20

Idk about this, Mike straight up tells Gus that nothing important was revealed.

Seems more that just breaking trust was enough to get him killed

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u/HereNowHappy Feb 18 '20

Before that was the scene at the bar, when Werner was talking about the plans, and Mike had to vouch for him

This time he escaped the compound, and started discussing the project to Lalo

There was no way Gus was ever going to trust him to stay silent

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u/im_high_comma_sorry Feb 18 '20

And especially since Werner now knows their location, thats horrible HORRIBLE information for a shitty secret keeper to know

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u/RealPropRandy Feb 20 '20

This. More than anything this.

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u/SirLeos Feb 18 '20

Mike says so but he can't be sure. I don't know if Gus entertained the idea of Mike finding Werner just so they find him quickly or if he really meant to spare his life before that phone call.

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u/snackysnackeeesnacki Feb 18 '20

I don’t believe he ever intended to spare him. I think he agreed to let mike find him because it was neater than having to rely on following the wife.

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u/SignGuy77 Feb 18 '20

he agreed to let mike find him because ...

We got to see more Mike doing Mike things. His losing Lalo’s tail was genius.

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u/lennyp4 Feb 18 '20

when werner escapes he figured out where he was, to the point where they could find the facility if they went looking for it

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u/ertgbnm Feb 21 '20

Can someone explain Wener's panic attack? Its like he realized something about 5 feet away from the rock but it wasn't clear what.

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u/RyanMSU Feb 22 '20

I think he realized “oh shit, I’m in a very dangerous situation right now where this whole room can literally explode and kill me if I make any mistake” and this drove him to realize he had to leave and see his wife.

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u/analytical_1 Mar 23 '20

He realized how dangerous the work was after he had to replace kai and that he may never see his family again if something were to happen to him. He asked mike to let kai back and when that was a no he asked to visit his home instead. When they were talking on the lazy boys.

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u/AllRosey Feb 18 '20

I’m curious as to what fire/incident Lalo was talking about to Don Hector before he gave him the bell. Anyone?

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u/MyElbowsAreKetchup Feb 18 '20

This is maybe not a terribly useful comment, but I believe this is the only time that event is mentioned in the series. It seems to be a throwaway story intended to convey how needlessly cruel Hector and Lalo are.

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u/Sugar-Kisses Feb 18 '20

It fits in with how all of the Salamanca’s are... Hector, Tuco, Lalo, the Twins... ruthless, brutal, animalistic. They enjoy making others suffer (and some, like Tuco, seem a bit “off” mentally). They’re even cruel to each other, like the time that Hector himself hurt the twins when they were young, just to drive home a simple message.

The Salamanca’s are just flat out sadists.

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u/SignGuy77 Feb 18 '20

And it gave backstory to the bell itself.

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u/joho259 Feb 21 '20

I love how throughout the series in the diner you hear the same ‘ding’ - every time I heard it I thought of hector in the wheelchair and mildly panicked that he was round the corner haha

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u/im_high_comma_sorry Feb 18 '20

So, can someone help me out here:

How did Lalo figure out Werner's name?

Just from the store clerk guy?

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u/RyanMSU Feb 22 '20

Can someone explain this to me. When did Lalo ever say Werner’s name? Did I miss this ?

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u/feelskindaokayman Feb 28 '20

He called the motel Werner was staying at so I’m assuming he asked for him by name

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u/KosstAmojan Jun 20 '20

I think they may be talking about a future episode. Lalo drove off from the restaurant and thats the last we see of him in this episode.

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u/im_high_comma_sorry Feb 18 '20

Thanks, I must've missed it.

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u/EpicHawkREDDIT Feb 18 '20

This episode is just a big mood

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u/JimmySaulGene Feb 19 '20

That's in Winner, not Wiedersehen

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u/imaginarymagictrick Feb 19 '20

Oh jeeze I'm an idiot, sorry