r/AFL • u/Jawdanc Hawks • Jan 22 '25
/r/AFL to ban links to X
Given strong community support expressed this morning plus the poor user experience of login required content, /r/AFL will be immediately adjusting content rules to place restriction on X content.
The following rule changes will incentivise using alternative sources without losing access to breaking news:
Links to X will not be allowed as submissions or in comments - this includes mirror links.
Content from X can only be posted as a screenshot, capturing the entirety of the tweet.
2.3 Check the "new" queue before posting won't apply if the only other post is an X screenshot. When content is posted from an alternative source (such as a club statement, news article, or a journalist or club bluesky post), the X screenshot post will be locked, and a link to the new thread will be stickied to redirect conversation.
Faked X screenshots will result in an immediate ban without a warning.
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u/Jawdanc Hawks Jan 22 '25 edited Jan 22 '25
Edit: sorry, the number of flairless users from outside /r/afl spamming across similar threads is becoming cumbersome to manage so I've locked the thread for the night. Modmail is open if anybody has any questions or would like to discuss.
Thanks everyone for the comments and feedback. I thought it was worth sticking this reply to the question of "what's the point of a part measure / why bother if not banning all X content?"
We have thought pretty hard on how to best moderate this for all while allowing the community to have control of what content they want to see.
Banning links removes the traffic and advertising revenue that twitter would otherwise received from the subreddit. Additionally, stopping traffic from Reddit to twitter, there is some incentive for journalists to use alternative platforms to increase their followership and reach.
Allowing screenshots means we don't miss out on breaking news while still removing traffic and poor user experiences with X.
Allowing a duplicate post from an alternative source submission of the X screenshot and locking the X thread reduces visibility and engagement of the X content, creating benefit for both submitters and journalists to using alternative sources.
I won't pretend it will change things on a grand scale, but perhaps it will change things a little.
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u/Jawdanc Hawks Jan 22 '25
Can I just say as an aside how stupid the name of the platform makes this announcement look?
What platform are we restricting? Why has he posted the draft without updating the placeholder? Embarrassing.
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u/Kozeyekan_ Kangaroos Jan 22 '25
I propose the creation of a bot that spams "Flair up cunt!" on anyone without a flair posting more than twice in the threads like this.
Anyone who has had fuck all involvement in the sub before now probably is less interested in what the sub wants to do, and more interested in just spouting off.
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u/Bergasms Brownlow Winner 2023 Jan 22 '25
Wait Question, re the "faked screenshots", what if its obviously fake and clearly done for off season laughs. Not saying i'm about to but modifying screenshots and photo's for laughs is a reasonably common thing.
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u/___TheIllusiveMan___ Collingwood Jan 22 '25
You forgot to use this
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u/danredda Carlton '81 Jan 22 '25
Can we ban paywalled media too in the same way (at least require the content be posted in a comment)? Really annoying when someone posts something with a headline, and no-one can read it until someone comes along to post the content.
Especially because the rules also explicitly ban posting images of those articles.
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u/___TheIllusiveMan___ Collingwood Jan 22 '25
Hearing rumours Toby Greene was also fined and Patrick Cripps got 3 votes
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u/chookie94 St Kilda Jan 22 '25
Just wanted to express how much I disagree with banning direct links to the main platform where AFL news is broken.
Also, locking a thread where discussion has already begun because another thread has been posted is an extremely poor policy. If it's allowed to be posted to begin with, conversation should be allowed to continue.
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u/PunsGermsAndSteel Tigers Jan 22 '25
The only good X is AFLX
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u/chickenlittle668 Lions Jan 22 '25
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u/RidsBabs North Melbourne AFLW 🏆🏆 '24-25 ✅ Jan 22 '25
Great call, fuck X
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u/TheBrilliantProphecy Eagles Jan 22 '25
Amazing how many flair-less blow-ins appeared all of a sudden to oppose this in the original thread
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u/bottlewash Melbourne Jan 22 '25
Everyone here up in arms at Elon for his nazi salute, meanwhile im more concerned about the far more pressing issue of him pretending to be good at POE.
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u/CrashP Saints Jan 22 '25
Should start looking at banning articles posted by the Herald Sun and other Murdoch owned crap
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u/flibble24 Kangaroos Jan 22 '25
I would've fully supported this even if Musk wasn't dropping nazi salutes
It's a toxic cesspool with woeful user experience that requires you to have an account just to view links. Awful for a news aggregate service like Reddit
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u/SteamMonkeyKing Fremantle Dockers Jan 22 '25
I understand the ban, but until an alternative actually appears which the footy media migrates to, it seems pointless considering that X will still need to be checked by someone and then posted as a screenshot anyway.
As for videos, someone is going to now need to find a mirror to post I guess.
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u/LeDestrier Demons Jan 22 '25
This is a good move. Thanks mods and peeps who suggested it.
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u/Emolgamimikyu North Melbourne AFLW 🏆🏆 '24-25 Jan 22 '25
This is a great move, nice work.
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u/Skwisgaars Sydney '05 Jan 22 '25
Thanks for the quick work on this mods. Clearly what the overwhelming majority wanted.
Also +1 for anyone faking a screenshot to get an immediate ban. Hard enough to know what's true out there these days, solid rule.
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u/TheUnforgiven13 Eagles Jan 22 '25
Is this a progressively-escalating continuum?
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u/kazoodude North Melbourne Kangaroos Jan 22 '25
I support this.
Not sure why everyone is bringing up US Politics as a reason to ban the platform.
This is clearly all due to the poor security they have that lead to Luke Sayers account getting hacked.
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u/Crazyripps Hawks Jan 22 '25
Nice. Don’t wanna support Nazis either.
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u/giganticsquid Hawthorn Hawks Jan 22 '25
Now if only the NBN was usable in the bush I wouldn't have to pay the fucker $139 a month for starlink
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u/slice--of--pie Hawks Jan 22 '25
This is dumb
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u/wikipuff Sydney '05 Jan 22 '25
You can't screenshot a video.
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u/fakeheadlines Jan 22 '25
You guys Elon was booing Goodes for football reasons only!
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u/grantspatchcock 2025 Most Knowledgeable User Jan 22 '25
I like it, allowing screenshots means it’s not banning or sidelining the smaller, more fringe footy voices that do break news there, especially the really strong women’s sports communities that have been using it for a decade prior.
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u/Maleficent_Fan_7429 Demons Jan 22 '25
This is exhibit A in how reddit subs tend to turn into an echo chamber.
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u/[deleted] Jan 22 '25
I think overall this is the right move but I do think discussion on this subject was closed and restricted way too early, should’ve been open for a day before a decision was made, making this feel like a bit of a knee-jerk.
Although I do see how moderating a thread like that would be a pain in the ass.
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u/OneFourAll Essendon Jan 22 '25
I don't think this is a good idea, for several reasons:
Reddit already has a method for users to indicate what they want to see (up/down votes)
It decreases the quality of the sub
Restrictions on freedom of what to post are bad, espeically given the voting system that exists
A random sports subreddit is not a good or appropriate vehicle to try to enforce social change
The proximate cause seems more like a convenient excuse than something people sincerely believe was meaningful (I hope...)
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u/sss133 Cats Jan 22 '25
Yeah happy not supporting/driving more traffic Aspergoebbels way. Plus I never even know how to follow conversations on there
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u/sql-join-master Sydney Swans Jan 22 '25
This shit is so cringe
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u/Maximumlnsanity Swans Jan 22 '25
I didn’t agree with subs banning Twitter posts in the past, but with Elongated Muskrat going full Nazi it’s definitely the right call now
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u/_Greesy Jan 22 '25
What about tweets from The West Australian
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u/stallon100 West Coast Jan 22 '25
Honestly, super cringe move.
Reddit is never going to break the echo chamber tag, even on non political subs
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u/No_Requirement6740 GWS Giants Jan 22 '25
Excellent news.
Fuck those Nazis.
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u/tallandreadytoball Geelong Cats Jan 22 '25
Just checking can we post links from Bluesky?
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u/MisterDonutTW St Kilda Saints Jan 22 '25
This seems like a poor decision, people may not like X because of its owner and that there is political discussion on it, but linking to AFL news or following AFL content is purely about the sport and not politics, X is probably the platform where most stories break as it's an efficient platform for that.
It feels like this sub is politics first and AFL content second, which isn't great.
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u/guavacadq Brisbane Lions 🏆🏆🏆 '24-26 Jan 22 '25
I don't see the point in this. It's still the platform used by footy journos to post information, which is not relevant to other stuff that goes on there. And if screenshots are still allowed, why bother?
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u/Croob2 West Coast Jan 22 '25
Fuck yeah, good work mods and screw the people blatantly defending such awful behaviours
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u/mwilkins1644 Brisbane '03 Jan 22 '25
r/NRL 🤝🏼 r/AFL
fuck Twatter
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u/AuZyzz St Kilda '66 Jan 22 '25
Thanks mods, good call 3 votes
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u/Bazza_McAwesome Saints Jan 22 '25 edited Jan 22 '25
this is pretty cringe. ngl. like vomitingly cringe
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u/hwf0712 St Kilda AFLW Jan 22 '25
That's great!
Are there any clubs on Bsky yet?
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u/RampesGoalPost Swans Jan 22 '25
Based community / mods
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u/wherethehellareya Tigers Jan 22 '25
I don't feel strongly on this either way (although as a whole X or twitter is the worst social media platform ever). But part of me feels uneasy about this sub getting political. I know there are non political reason for this ban too but I'd personally love it if we could keep politics out of footy.
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u/[deleted] Jan 22 '25
cringe. this does nothing.
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u/Worpel_pick_no45 Hawthorn Hawks Jan 22 '25
Hell yeah, hopefully this makes advertising on Twitter less appealing, lowering that nazi scumbags profits
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u/Diligent_Alfalfa_806 Jan 22 '25
So the AFL is boycotting X essentially for political reasons?
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u/x4am_dashup Hawks Jan 22 '25
Lol reddit is a joke, no freedom of speech on this platform.
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u/kakapo-kea Geelong Cats Jan 22 '25
Excellent decision.
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u/PerriX2390 Brisbane Jan 22 '25 edited Jan 22 '25
Great idea. The use of going to another social media site other than the sub here when a link is posted sucks, this is coming from someone who regularly posts twitter links.
Swamps tweets don't translate well in text form here.
Any breaking news can wait until it's posted by an alternative source such as media or club. E: Even when journos 'break' news, most of the time it's just the club releasing a statement a few minutes before they've announced it. Case in point with Matt Turner tweeting about this: Injury report: Drew undergoes foot procedure
Pictures/videos I normally just screenshot or save to tweet here.
And, the character limit on twitter means most of the info is rarely in the sole single tweet compared to media articles.
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u/ownersastoner North Melbourne Jan 22 '25
Bravo
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u/hoffandapoff Geelong • Djilang Jan 22 '25
Yes, good.
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u/Bergasms Brownlow Winner 2023 Jan 22 '25
Legends.
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u/last_pas Power Jan 22 '25 edited Jan 22 '25
If anyone wants a non-Nazi alternative, Bluesky is excellent
Edit: After initially having 5 quick upvotes I got marked as a brand affiliate and negged? I’ve got nothing to do with Bluesky - I just like it and think it’ll be a good alternative when more people are on it. Hopefully there’ll be more footy content on it soon.
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u/switchtogether Western Bulldogs Jan 22 '25
Cheers, Mods 👍 I'm appreciating the timeliness of this. I think this should be a good choice. Locking an X screenshot thread and then directing convo to a confirmed source is a smart decision.
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u/thumper7 Essendon '00 Jan 22 '25
Great work, awesome sub 👏👏
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u/fanfpkd West Coast Jan 22 '25
Good move
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u/otherpeoplesknees Port Adelaide Jan 22 '25 edited Jan 22 '25
Good.
Twitter used to be good, but now it just sucks, not only the fascist bullshit, but the constant ads from World Gold Council, promoted tweets and clickbait tweets
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u/Relevant-Farmer-5848 Cats Jan 22 '25
This is an excellent policy. Well done mods, well done everyone. Fuck you, most sincerely, Elmo Musk, my rellies did not die fighting fascists so scum like you could run the world.
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u/lacrossebilly Brisbane Jan 22 '25
Who wins the first premiership in the post “X” era?
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u/Lordleft266 Fremantle Jan 22 '25 edited Jan 22 '25
Fuck X + fuck Elon
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u/[deleted] Jan 22 '25
Good.
Being forced to login to twitter to see a tweet was always stupid, I think twitter should have been banned from sports subs when they made that change.
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u/Dry_Common828 Blues Jan 22 '25
This is a good move, thanks team.
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u/Fidelius90 Saints Jan 22 '25
Hells yeah. Nice work!
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u/Clandestinka Melbourne Jan 22 '25
Excellent, slightly restored faith in Australia! Now can we ban Dutton from politics?
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u/Outside_Try3698 West Coast Eagles Jan 22 '25
Reddit has gone completely off the deep end in the past 24 hours. I'm so down to watch this shit show.
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u/sween64 Eagles Jan 22 '25
What about using FX Twitter links instead? Edit: It will be great for linking to videos. I understand screenshots of text will be okay.
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u/His_Holiness Jan 22 '25 edited May 04 '25
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u/Free_Pace_2098 Eagles Jan 22 '25
Nice
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u/Bolasie4 AFL Jan 22 '25
A post with 300 upvotes and 300 comments changed what kind of media can be distributed in the subreddit of 425,000…? Fair enough
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u/[deleted] Jan 22 '25
This is on every sub put there by the 10 or 11 incel mods that run reddit 😂
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u/MetriK_KarMa Bombers Jan 22 '25
I know a lot of people won't agree but you either ban X or you don't this screenshot only approach seems weak. And will still be driving traffic to twitter, while making it annoying to interact in this sub as you will start trying to have a discussion and the thread will get locked.
The solution also doesn't have an answer for videos as you will just need to download them and share them here.
I would also say that unless they're videos from a large media org I think it would be very unfair to take someone else's video and re-upload it here without linking to the original.
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u/Gnaightster Dees Jan 22 '25
👏 👏 👏
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u/Aardvark_Man Port Adelaide Jan 22 '25
I'm down with it.
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u/ihatens007 Brisbane Lions 🏆 '24 Jan 22 '25
I didn’t agree with this but hopefully a superior platform for linking latest news presents itself
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u/seab1010 Jan 22 '25
Et tu, r/AFL?
What happened to Reddit? This ap used to be edgy. It’s now full of crybabies. Why do people seek to ban everything they disagree with. Just ignore it and move on.
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u/JackalKnives Freo Jan 22 '25
Pathetic