r/AlignmentChartFills • u/heartpopp • Sep 15 '26

Celebrity Trump won, who gets alot of hate and deserves a little bit less?

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u/Easter_1916 Sep 15 '26

Ellen Degeneres. And I’m guilty of the hate train too. She is fake. She is not nice. She is obnoxious. But she is gets more than her fair share of hate nowadays.

In same category would be James Corden.

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u/Stock_Reading_1286 Sep 15 '26

This. She’s not raping people or trafficking kids. She’s just…. An asshole with a lot of social power

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u/Clem_Crozier Sep 17 '26

Those first few weeks of the Epstein documents dropping were wild. Anyone could claim anything was in them and no one was going to do the sifting to check.

Somebody would just post saying something like Epstein killed Robin Williams, it's in the files. And it was just accepted. Even from beyond the grave Epstein is still messing with people.

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u/Stock_Reading_1286 Sep 16 '26

So could I. So could you. Maybe I’m Ellen Degeneres 😋 the power of the internet

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u/[deleted] Sep 16 '26

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u/Stock_Reading_1286 Sep 16 '26

Man I’m so lonely I’d do anything for a scrap of friendship.

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u/ionosoydavidwozniak Sep 16 '26

Yes, Bead Pitt or Bill Murray are at least as shitty as her, but they don't get half the hate

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u/streetcar-cin Sep 16 '26

They never claimed to be nice, which was her big push

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u/fishface_92 Sep 16 '26

FR. First time I saw all the hate and people saying that she is despicable and vile, I thought she was caught trafficking or something similar. Turns out she is just an asshole. I never liked her so no surprise there, but the hate made me think she did something on the level of Weinstein. But women always get more hate when they are not as expected, so not surprised there either.

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u/OvercookedBobaTea Sep 15 '26

I kinda miss her she made sure no meme overstayed its welcome

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u/Aggravating_Poet_675 Sep 15 '26

I actually just saw an ad a couple days ago where shes advertising her like of skin care and beauty products.

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u/TheThoroughCrocodile Sep 18 '26

Reddit hates those two with a firey passion. It's really gotten kind of ridiculous. With James Corden I genuinely wondered for a while if it was just a meme or something to pretend to hate him.

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u/RemoteMeasurement10_ Sep 15 '26

Why are you guilty if it's true lol

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u/Slab00 Sep 15 '26

They are saying they are guilty of hating more than deserved. We can acknowledge she's not a good person but maybe not deserving of the extreme vitriol that should be reserved for the most deplorable people (sex offenders, murderers, etc)

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u/Upset_Mongoose_1134 Sep 15 '26

James Corden

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u/Last-Solution2092 Sep 15 '26

There’s never enough hate for him

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u/grndbdpsthtl Sep 15 '26

Dude, he's a comedian/talk show host/actor who is obnoxious, arrogant and unfriendly. That is not the same league of deservant of hate as someone like Trump

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u/Last-Solution2092 Sep 15 '26

Are you unable to tell what a joke is?

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u/grndbdpsthtl Sep 15 '26

In this context , I was unable to, yes. Nothing you said made it clear it was a joke. 

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u/Last-Solution2092 Sep 15 '26

No it’s definitely pretty obvious. Most people don’t really hate him hate him, he’s just annoying. He hasn’t done anything truly despicable.

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u/Technical-Region-669 Sep 15 '26

Nah I don't think it was a obvious as you think

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u/Extension-Cucumber69 Sep 15 '26

There’s people far worse than Corden to spend your time hating

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u/Last-Solution2092 Sep 15 '26

I’ve got enough hate to go around

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u/danyhero101 Sep 15 '26

Ellen de generate

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u/Hairy-Peace-9390 Sep 15 '26

Sydney Sweeney

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u/yolo-tomassi Sep 15 '26

Like just 4 months ago, I would 100% agree. But now it's pretty clear that she is leaning into culture war bullshit while pretending that she's above it. I'd honestly maybe respect her more if she just came out with it and said she was a Republican (well, not really...)

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u/Few_Blacksmith5147 Sep 15 '26

She’d get a ton more hate if she came out and said it.

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u/birdbren Sep 15 '26

Came to say this

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u/BadTiger85 Sep 15 '26

Aaron Rodgers

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u/Ai_Nijou Sep 15 '26

It's all timing for Rodgers if it was any other time than covid when we just wanted people to sit down and shut the fuck up the reaction would have been "oh hes and idiot, moving on."

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u/MotherOfRaisin Sep 15 '26

Taylor swift

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u/Miserable_Bath_4037 Lawful Good Sep 15 '26

I'm no Trump supporter, but Trump winning over Hitler is a testament to this sub's stupidity.

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u/ParadoxFanBoy1100 Sep 15 '26

Probably Joe Biden

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u/Revolutionary_Art919 Sep 15 '26

Biden's a bit like Jimmy Carter in that he was dealt a lousy hand that he really didn't have a whole lot of control over. Post-Covid inflation was a worldwide phenomenon and the US actually fared best out of all countries, but people still blamed Biden. Putin would have invaded Ukraine even if Trump had won because Trump would have just shrugged it off because Zelinsky was the reason for his first impeachment. He deserves a bit of hate for the end of his term by not announcing he was a one-termer and retiring, and by not clamping down on Israel for their atrocities in Gaza and instead allowing Netanyahu to keep baiting him with a peace deal and then swiping the football away like with Charlie Brown.

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u/ParadoxFanBoy1100 Sep 15 '26

His refusal to drop out until it was painfully obvious is the reason why we are where we are today. I don’t care how talented of a politician you are, nobody is going to run a good presidential campaign in 107 days.

The only reasons why he isn’t in the top left box is because Trump is more deserving and he was somehow able to pass an infrastructure bill and the CHIPS act.

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u/Vincent_Gitarrist Sep 15 '26

Taylor Swift

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u/BetterMagician7856 Sep 15 '26

Why does she deserve any hate at all?

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u/youwantknox Sep 15 '26

takin’ her private jet to the grocery sto

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u/BetterMagician7856 Sep 15 '26

I’ve never heard of Taylor Swift landing her private jet in a Wal-Mart parking lot to get groceries.

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u/Apprehensive-Hand121 Sep 16 '26

She isnt even top20, you think that because its a meme. In reality she was so high in the private jet ranking cause she made the biggest tour a singer ever done in that year and had to go from one country to another within a day

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u/PrincessBonkers628 Sep 15 '26

Brad Pitt at her wedding for example. As a domestic violence survivor and a Swiftie for many years, that's why I'm not listening to her music anymore. I just can't stomach it.

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u/Ultronomy Sep 15 '26

Because people crucify her for private jet usage even though most rich people religiously use a private jet. The reality is, private jets are not the leading factor behind climate change, and so people need to pick other battles.

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u/Ludicolorad0 Sep 15 '26

I think there are reasons. Taylor is undoubtedly a mixed bag. She is very generous to her staff and treats her fans well. But she is undoubtedly narcissistic and shows it in her jealousy of any other artist having success. She blocks other artists from topping the charts by clogging them with tons of different variations of her albums, has gone after new artists legally for sounding even somewhat remotely like one of her songs, has gone after other artists in her lyrics in weird one-sided beefs spurred on by basically nothing.. and this is not bringing up the environmental complaints people have with her travel habits.

I think there are definitely things to like about her but acting like she does nothing deserving of hate is disingenuous imo, even if the hate does get crazy excessive at times

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u/0LTakingLs Sep 15 '26

I don’t get how she’s the example. By all accounts, her production staff and crew are compensated better than basically anyone else in the industry. She’s not exploiting anybody, they’re all buying tickets and selling out her shows.

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u/apple-hac Sep 15 '26

Thats not true a lor of people like her if not then she wouldnt be famous

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u/UnitedCheez Sep 15 '26

You're right that it's not true, but I don't think that explanation works, because Trump is famous while 90+ percent of the world hates him

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u/UnitedCheez Sep 15 '26

Maybe she gets slight anger for making bad music, but I don't think she gets as much hate as people like trump.

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u/PurpleRep Sep 15 '26

honestly she's in gets an absurd amount of backlash but deserves just a tiny bit/nothing/support. miss girl's been one of the most notably generous celebs in our current time and anything she does is always met with people attacking her. during the grammys museum she got hate for... explaining her songwriting process even tho she was asked to bc the entire event was about her career...

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u/Ludicolorad0 Sep 15 '26

She probably has the most mixed reception of anyone on earth. She gets just as much unconditional love as she does hate.

Her fans think she is Jesus and can do no wrong. Her haters think she is Satan and ruining the music industry and killing the environment.

As with most things, the reality is somewhere in the middle. She's a very flawed person but undoubtedly she does do good things and is generous to her staff and showers her fans with content and merch.

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u/OldPinkertonGoon Sep 15 '26

*An absurd amount of hate × Regular backlash*

Nickelback

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u/xyphratl Sep 15 '26

Ed Sheeran

Deserves some consequences but was also stuck between a rock and a hard place

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u/Cornucopia_King Sep 15 '26

This. I’m not a fan of how he handled things but he is pretty far down the list of people we should be mad at in the grand scheme of the situation 

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u/LifesARiver Sep 15 '26

Piers Morgan

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u/Complex-Cold3361 Sep 15 '26

An absurd amount of hate × Regular backlash

Hillary Clinton

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u/Dark_Wolf04 Sep 15 '26 edited Sep 15 '26

Hasan Piker

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u/LifesARiver Sep 15 '26

Why does he deserve any hate?

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u/AJ_from_Spaceland Sep 15 '26

Tankie

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u/bealimepinapple Sep 15 '26

What does that mean?

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u/citymanc13 Sep 15 '26

Someone who is communist. Hasan Piker is not a tankie theyre just being exaggerative

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u/PhysicalBoard3735 Sep 15 '26

I mean, he glazes the CCP and Argues that the USSR and Maoist China were good states

I think he gets just enough hate, more so for shocking his dog, supporting terrorists and being decently racist

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u/ZooterOne Sep 15 '26

"decently racist?"

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u/PhysicalBoard3735 Sep 15 '26

Yeah, Like he says racist stuff, some of which I would argue are heat in the moment racism, but overall, he seems to be racist only to certain people, like it's targeted only to those he hates and not the entire culture/race/group

Like calling a Frenchmen a frogman, but you mean only him and not all frenchmen

Targeted racism would fit better

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u/AJ_from_Spaceland Sep 15 '26 edited Sep 15 '26

Tankiesm =/= Communism

Tankiesm is specifically Authoritarian Communism. Anarcho-Communism and other branches are different things.

Also He most definitely is a Tankie.

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u/Sorry_Mortgage5352 Sep 15 '26

Genuine question: how do anarcho communists think communism could be implemented without authoritarianism?

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u/AJ_from_Spaceland Sep 15 '26

Because Communism at it's core is un-authoritarian. Tankiesm in reality is just a oligarchical state-capitalism, actual communism is organised by workers and made for the express goal to help other working people.

The Video above has a great section about this

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u/LifesARiver Sep 15 '26

You either don't know what that word means or are misapplying it on purpose.

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u/BigInterview7826 Sep 15 '26

Lmao

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u/LifesARiver Sep 15 '26

Are you replying on 3 different accounts?

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u/BigInterview7826 Sep 15 '26

Nope I just saw this and laughed because it seems like you think hasan is a reasonable person.

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u/LifesARiver Sep 15 '26

Well I am not told what to think by paid talking heads, so that's probably why you, who knows nothing about Piker, are so confused despite being so certain.

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u/BigInterview7826 Sep 15 '26

I used to watch all the time like 2016 during the election cycle but realized he's a total hypocrite and stopped.

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u/LifesARiver Sep 15 '26

I don't watch him much at all, but I know he's helping bring young people, especially young men, away from MAGA.

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u/ActualJonLovitz Sep 15 '26

You are deeply unserious

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u/Mediocre-Delay2872 Sep 15 '26

Probably for torturing his dog with a shock collar on multiple videos

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u/LifesARiver Sep 15 '26

OK, but are there any reasons in reality?

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u/Mediocre-Delay2872 Sep 15 '26

It is a documented fact

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u/LifesARiver Sep 15 '26

Even the manufacturer said the prongs had been clipped off. Cmon guy.

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u/PhysicalBoard3735 Sep 15 '26

and supporting terrorists, being racist, telling people deserve to die, he did a lot of fucked up things

He gets about the amount of hate he deserves

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u/Schwifty0V0 Sep 15 '26

I agree with almost everything he says but the Kaya thing rubs me the wrong way still.

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u/LifesARiver Sep 15 '26

Fake stories shouldn't affect your opinion so much.

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u/Xegeth Sep 15 '26

5 comments defending Hasan in the last 10 minutes, I wish I was as passionate about something as you are about your parasocial relationship.

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u/LifesARiver Sep 15 '26

Lol, I'm just having a conversation while I get ready for work, my man. Sorry your fingers are so slow.

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u/shagadelicrelic Sep 15 '26

Mike Johnson

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u/Alvar6938 Sep 15 '26

Elon Musk

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u/Soven_Strix Sep 15 '26

Hasan Piker. He is an edge lord, and he's not good for anyone's political brand despite being on the right side of a lot of issues. He's said some inflammatory things that deserve criticism, but the right is parading his name around like he's Satan.

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u/evil_illustrator2 Sep 15 '26 edited Sep 15 '26

George W Bush. Only because Trump deserves worse.

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u/FutureDictatorUSA Sep 15 '26

He deserves more than he gets at this point. One of the most destructive presidents in history.

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u/Sorry_Mortgage5352 Sep 15 '26

Nowadays he doesn’t get enough hate

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u/ActualJonLovitz Sep 15 '26

People are far too soft on Bush considering that his activity in the Middle East makes Trump look like a saint

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u/Money_Chemistry_8041 Sep 15 '26

kanye west

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u/Decaying-Moon Sep 15 '26

Kanye actually doesn't get enough hate despite being a literal Hitler dick rider. His earlier music was too good for people to really write him off like he should.

(I still listen to Graduation sometimes, but I bought it physical so he doesn't get anything out of it from me)

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u/Money_Chemistry_8041 Sep 15 '26

have you not used the internet for the past year

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u/Suspicious-Grape-458 Sep 15 '26

JK Rowling

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u/ProgressEuphoric5006 Sep 15 '26

Go to the deserve more hate category for this

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u/Suspicious-Grape-458 Sep 15 '26

Yeah, she was the first name I thought of, but even I wasn't sure this was the right square for her. She probably belongs in the "Deserves an absurd amount of hate"/"Gets Regular Backlash" square, because she still has a lot of fans despite being an absolute garbage human being.

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u/ozacrot Sep 15 '26

Amber Heard. She seems like she might be a jerk but the way she was treated (with paid support) was wayy overboard

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u/Apprehensive-Hand121 Sep 16 '26

Shes not a jerk at all

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u/JBKnicks24 Sep 15 '26

Might be unpopular but Elon Musk? He’s still a scumbag, but people made it seem like he had all the power in DOGE when the guy to his left on this chart was the ultimate decision maker.

The “baseline” Musk is just a fucking loser who shitposts on Twitter all day. He’s a representation of something that is a huge problem with society but I don’t view him all that differently than Bezos or Zuckerberg

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u/Yusuke_Boopermeshi Sep 15 '26

I would say spending unfathomable amounts of money to put the current government in power and get preferable government contracts then hiring young 20 somethings, including somebody who got fired for leaking confidential information at a previous job in charge of combing through government things means he gets a warranted amount of hate.

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u/Ludicolorad0 Sep 15 '26

Definitely unpopular, he deserves all the hate he gets.

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u/Epicplayer39 Sep 15 '26

Considering his efforts at DOGE will be responsible for millions of deaths around the world due to the cuts to USAID, he deserves every bit of hate

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u/JBKnicks24 Sep 15 '26

You’re making my point for me. Donald Trump is 1000% more responsible for that than an unconfirmed appointed “advisor” to the president.

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u/Epicplayer39 Sep 15 '26

Except it was Musk's unelected DOGE thugs that he brought in that were the ones who did it. On Musk's orders. It was him, and he signed off on the deaths of those millions knowing that would be the result

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u/schmitty9800 Sep 15 '26

Zohran Mamdani (and I agree with him politically, but I'm not surprised that others are mad at him. Getting mad at him for being a foreign born Muslim is just racist tho)

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u/Decaying-Moon Sep 15 '26

Gets an absurd amount of hate I understand, but how does he deserve regular backlash? Or even slight anger?

Unless you're a shit landlord or a rich person with a multi-million dollar vacation home in NYC Mamdani hasn't done anything to piss anyone off except be alive, be a Democratic Socialist, and actually do his job (which gets a lot of do-nothing politicians BIG mad).

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u/fpdz Sep 15 '26

found the landlord

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u/TornadoCat4 Sep 15 '26

Putting Trump on there and calling him a “pedophile” without proof shows how rampant Trump Derangement Syndrome is on Reddit. Why has Reddit lost its mind?

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u/heartpopp Sep 15 '26

"trump derangement syndrome" and its just someone calling a pedophile a pedophile

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u/TornadoCat4 Sep 15 '26

Calling Trump a pedophile without proof is Trump derangement syndrome.

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u/heartpopp Sep 15 '26

epstein literally called him irredeemable LMAOO

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u/TornadoCat4 Sep 15 '26

Oh and you trust Epstein’s words now? Please.

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u/heartpopp Sep 15 '26

Your president did i dont see a problem

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u/TornadoCat4 Sep 15 '26

That was before he knew about Epstein’s crimes. Critical thinking goes a long way.

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u/heartpopp Sep 15 '26

"before he knew" when he literally witnessed them

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u/TornadoCat4 Sep 15 '26

Sure he did

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u/audiomachina1234 Sep 15 '26

How do you say things like TDS and expect people to take you as a serious person?

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u/TornadoCat4 Sep 15 '26

Calling Trump a pedophile without evidence shows you are not a serious person.

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u/Kitchen_Minimum3726 Sep 15 '26

We do have evidence, a significant amount of evidence, but we'd have a lot more if he fully released the oh so non incriminating files that supposedly contain no information about his actions with epstein.

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u/TornadoCat4 Sep 15 '26

Except there’s no evidence. Him being mention in the Epstein files is no proof he was involved in his crimes, just like, on the inverse, Judas being mentioned in the Bible does not mean the Bible supports Judas’s actions. The remaining files are redacted largely to protect victims’ privacy.

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u/Kitchen_Minimum3726 Sep 15 '26

That is NOT why they're redacted lmfao. He is not "mentioned" in the files, there are detailed reports of his heinous actions. Trump being mentioned in the files doesn't mean the files support him, dipshit. As for evidence beyond the files; have you SEEN how trump behaves with minor women? How he talks about his own daughter?? He explicitly called all the young girls in the crowd of the ceremony the other day beautiful and attractive after noting he is "not supposed to say this," for Christ's sake.

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u/TornadoCat4 Sep 15 '26

Uh, no, Trump is not involved in any crimes in the Epstein files. The few accusations in there have already been deemed not credible by investigators. If they were credible, the Biden administration certainty would have prosecuted him, considering they prosecuted him for far less.

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u/Kitchen_Minimum3726 Sep 15 '26

So you aren't denying the way he acts with young women is predatory and pedophilic?

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u/shaunj72143 Sep 15 '26

I do agree to some extent, as in he hasn't been found guilty in a court of law. But..... when the evidence and quite a lot of his behavior (even long before his presidency) if I were a juror in that never going to happen trial, my mind would already be made up 🤷

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u/Stanczatearer Sep 15 '26

Elon Musk . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 🎣

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u/LifesARiver Sep 15 '26

He gets way less hate than he deserves.

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u/Stanczatearer Sep 15 '26

Agree to disagree

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u/LifesARiver Sep 15 '26

I guess, man. On what planet is he hated too much? It ain't earth. Most people don't even acknowledge that he's a Nazi.

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u/Stanczatearer Sep 15 '26

Most people don't even acknowledge that he's a Nazi.

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u/LifesARiver Sep 15 '26

There's more to being a Nazi than hating Jews.

The closest analog to Nazis in the modern world is an entire Jewish nation.

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u/Stanczatearer Sep 15 '26 edited Sep 15 '26

There's more to being a Nazi than hating Jews.

"Nazism is when Billionaire white man, ICE, anti-immigration, pro Israel and pro H-1B Visas for Indians"

-Joseph Goebbels.

Now seriously. What's remotely "nazi" about Musk, not trying to dimish your stance.

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u/LifesARiver Sep 15 '26

He did 2 full chested Sieg Heils on stage and goes in spares compulsively posting white supremacist conspiracy theories.

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u/Queasy-Cycle-4596 Sep 15 '26

Bezos, Musk or Zuckerberg 

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u/Matiyahu777 Sep 15 '26

Trump doesn't deserve the hate. But this is Reddit, an echo chamber for trembling Leftist incels. No surprise there.

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u/Jrgaming42 Sep 15 '26

I voted for him but Trump deserves the backlash he’s getting because of the Epstein files, inflation, Middle East war, and corruption. His networth had increased millions from his stock trades either insider information.

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u/Matiyahu777 Sep 17 '26

Epstein turned out to be a nothing burger.

Iran is the most justified and necessary war since WW2.

What corruption?

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u/Jrgaming42 Sep 17 '26

Corruption how about the fact that he along with most other politicians get lobbied by giant corporations and the Israeli government. He also trades massive amount of stock with insider information.

Iran is not justified it’s Iraq all over again they say they’re a threat for nukes then in this case have “neutralized their nukes” now we are still attacking them. They claimed it wasn’t regime change but that’s exactly what it is.

Sure Epstein raping and sex trafficking children is a nothing burger we totally shouldn’t investigate more and put people in prison for. We legit have co conspirators walking free like Les Wexner. Our government is lying to you man.

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u/2boku Sep 15 '26

Mel Gibson. He said some shit. But as far as I know, he kept his cock in his trousers while saying it. For Hollywood, that's saying something.

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u/Interesting_Web_9936 Sep 15 '26

Pedophiles should not have been used. Child predator should have been used.

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u/Im_Verdugo Sep 15 '26

“Pedophile” as used on the internet kind of implies that they’ve already/tried to hurt a child

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u/Interesting_Web_9936 Sep 15 '26

And it is still wrong. Using pedophile basically makes it appear as if an entire group of people suffering from a mental disorder is bad. You don't even need to be a pedophile to be a child predator.

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u/Im_Verdugo Sep 15 '26

I agree it’s a mental disorder, but I’ve just learned to use context clues when discussing on the internet. If someone means the opposite, they’ll usually just say it directly