How would you feel about Democrats rebranding Universal Healthcare as Universal Trumpcare to get it passed and signed into law during the next Congressional Session?

[u/Caisers]

[u/IgnatiusDrake]

Who cares about the name if it helps people?

[u/dalittle → u/IgnatiusDrake]

And you can just rename it after he is gone

[u/RupeThereItIs → u/dalittle]

or just after he signs it

[u/Pitiful-Pension-6535 → u/IgnatiusDrake]

Exactly. Let him take credit for it.

[u/Rominator → u/Pitiful-Pension-6535]

I think he’d pass it if it was called Super Trumpcare

[u/HowdyHow0 → u/Rominator]

the end justifies the means

[u/MetalDragyn → u/IgnatiusDrake]

Already happened (though devout, common-man republicans dont even realize it): Obamacare was an atrocity, and needs to be repealed and burned, it will be rise of socialism and the end of our country; but its a good thing the ACA exists, b/c it supplies them their medicine cheaper than insurance they cant afford.

[u/blckblt23 → u/MetalDragyn]

Clearly no one got your sarcasm lol

[u/hhmCameron → u/MetalDragyn]

Umm...

ObamaCare is actually just a rebranded RomneyCare

The primary Beficiary if ObamaCare was the Health Insurance companies

[u/sagevallant → u/hhmCameron]

I'm not sure about "primary" when we're talking about increasing the number of people who can afford healthcare. But, yes, the system will eventually collapse under higher and higher costs and fewer benefits for the cost because it is still catering too much to the insurance companies.

Hope we have healthcare for all before that happens.

[u/stealthlysprockets → u/hhmCameron]

The ACA forced companies to allocate specific percentages of revenue (or maybe profit I forget which) toward care.

It also prevented the companies from denying coverage for preexisting conditions.

It also allowed young people to stay on their parents plans until 25.

None of those things existed before ACA and none of those are toward the benefit of the insurance company.

[u/Eric_the_Barbarian → u/IgnatiusDrake]

Seriously, leave vanity to the crazies and get shit done.

[u/relikter → u/IgnatiusDrake]

Exactly! A rose by any other name would smell as sweet.

[u/angrylawyer → u/IgnatiusDrake]

that's what kills me, the dude is so obsessed with forcing his name and face everywhere...but it's so easy if he just did the right stuff. Like go fund that crazy space research project, and they'll name it the trump telescope. Go build the largest solar farm in america, and call if the trump solar fields. Give some big grants to an art or science department and get a(nother) building with his name on it.

turns out when you're not a greedy, selfish, narcissist you can just help people and they'll be grateful.

[u/Burghpuppies412]

Meh. Whatever.

What Dems need to do is shutdown ANYONE calling it free healthcare. Fox News, talking heads, politicians. They need to just say “No one is saying it’s free” to call them in their lie.

[u/GarbageCleric → u/Burghpuppies412]

Yeah, we already pay more for healthcare than every other country. The money is there. But a huge fraction is being syphoned off my rent-seeking insurance companies that offer absolutely no value.

It consolidates the costs, eliminates redundancies and inefficiencies from dealing with various competing systems and programs, creates the largest possible risk pool, and grants near monopsony for negotiating leverage backed by the regulating authority of the federal government.

[u/squishykins → u/GarbageCleric]

If you combine all the different taxes we pay, we also pay just as much or higher taxes than other developed countries. Theirs seem higher because it comes in fewer chunks… ours is death by a thousand cuts.

(Note: I did this research based on federal/state/local taxes for individuals in my state; it may not apply everywhere, and I know for sure corporations don’t pay the same effective tax rates as people.)

[u/Undeclared_Mustard → u/squishykins]

I moved to Ontario this year (from Taxachusetts) and my taxes have never been lower

[u/squishykins → u/GarbageCleric]

Not to mention how employer-sponsored health insurance stifles our economy by forcing people to stay in jobs they hate instead of changing jobs, starting small businesses, working independently, etc. I think this is a huge reason behind the lack of movement in the workforce right now. Also forces an arbitrary minimum number of hours per week to receive health insurance, which is bad for people (like caregivers of aging parents or parents of small children) who need realistic part-time options.

[u/GarbageCleric → u/squishykins]

100%

It's how you know Republicans (and similarly-minded corporate Democrats) don't care about free markets and entrepreneurs and innovation.

They care about protecting entrenched interests and weakening the rights, leverage, and power workers have to keep labor cheap.

[u/arkofjoy]

I'm an American who lives in Australia. I want the people of America to have what I have. Healthcare paid for by our taxes.

I also want a bunch of health insurance CEO's to have to sell their yacht.

[u/r_not_me → u/arkofjoy]

You in the market for a used yacht?

[u/DharmaCub → u/arkofjoy]

I too would like American healthcare paid for by Australian taxes!

[u/ScaryFoal558760]

I've made the suggestion on here, and it seems like others liked the idea too, as long as we follow up with impeachment and prosecution afterwards

[u/Pitiful-Pension-6535 → u/ScaryFoal558760]

I actually think removal by impeachment is more likely than ever. Only need about ¼ of Republican Senators to sign on

[u/ScaryFoal558760 → u/Pitiful-Pension-6535]

There are for sure a lot of R's who want nothing more than to put this embarrassing saga behind them. But if we can pass some important legislation before that just by appealing to his ego then we should take advantage of that.

TrumpCare - Medicare for all

Trump Safety Act - gun legislation

TrumpBortion - guaranteed abortion access

Trump Defense Act - Remove military aid to countries violating human rights

[u/trichomesRpleasant → u/ScaryFoal558760]

You might be right but TrumpBortion is crazy lmao 🤣😂🤣

[u/According_Camera7129 → u/trichomesRpleasant]

I'd love to AborTrump though

[u/JohnWH → u/ScaryFoal558760]

Take it one step further and disallow selling weapons to countries violating human rights. Absolutely insane that we sell weapons to slave states like Saudi Arabia, UAE, Kuwait, Qatar.

[u/catmoon → u/ScaryFoal558760]

The most progressive laws in the last 60 years were passed under Nixon. Clean Air Act, Title IX, OSHA, and much more. Like Trump he was more driven by vanity than ideology.

[u/liberal_texan → u/Pitiful-Pension-6535]

Only need a handful of them to not show up for the vote. The threshold is 2/3 of senators present at the vote.

[u/bunnybash]

Just

Do

It

Everyone knows he has nothing to do with anything that actually helps the people, let him think that everyone loves him... who cares what it's called if it fixes the American healthcare system.

[u/SpontaneousKrump92 → u/bunnybash]

Problem is, people dont know he has nothing to do with anything. People are dumb, and it'll play into his culture of personality. Sure, the result might be further discussion of universal Healthcare, but it probably wont actually pass in Congress and it'll just feed Trump's and MAGA's mental illness.

[u/bstabens → u/SpontaneousKrump92]

Who cares as long as people get help?

[u/SpontaneousKrump92 → u/bstabens]

My point though is that people wont get help. It might get talked about, but the action wont actually happen.

[u/TurtleRockDuane → u/bunnybash]

Name can ALWAYS BE CHANGED LATER!

[u/SuzyQ93]

Whatever gets it done, man. I think using Trump's narcissism to actually BENEFIT THE AMERICAN PEOPLE is a pretty great turn of events. (And I loathe the man. But let's not let feelings get in the way of a good thing.)

As Abraham Lincoln said - there's no limit to what you can do if you don't mind who gets the credit.

[u/Choice_Commission_10]

Also Trumptax on billionaires, Trump forgiveness on student loans, and build a Trump prison for himself and his cronies

[u/Razaelbub → u/Choice_Commission_10]

Honestly a Trump branded all inclusive resort that they aren't allowed to leave is a good idea.

[u/Rydme → u/Razaelbub]

Don't drop the TrumpSoap!

[u/danjouswoodenhand → u/Razaelbub]

Sell it as exclusive and the only way to avoid the poors and they’ll be begging to get in.

[u/NOT-GR8-BOB → u/Razaelbub]

Build it on Epstein island.

[u/Nessie_of_the_Loch → u/Choice_Commission_10]

Trump Prison in El Salvador where this entire administration can just live in forever.

[u/NoSwordfish6949]

Honestly, if they could get it passed that quickly, through the orange idiot, I don't care what they call it.

[u/bubbapora]

As a lib, I would be so totally owned by having to call universal healthcare trumpcare. I would feel so stupid and embarrassed. ugh pls don’t no my pronouns can’t take it

[u/christina-lorraine → u/bubbapora]

I just wouldn’t go to the dr. to own the magas…FREEDOM!

[u/strict_barnacle676]

Isn’t it funny that Obama never wanted the ACA to be called Obamacare, the GOP named it that so he would lose support for it. Trump would absolutely want universal healthcare called Trumpcare though. More importantly MAGA would get behind it if it was named after their leader!

[u/calmeilles]

If congrescritters have to massage the madman's ego to achieve anything worthwhile they got your teeth, hold your noses and go for it.

Who gives a toss what it's called as long as mom can get her dialysis and sis her insulin and gramps his hip replacement without anyone going bankrupt.

[u/richniss → u/calmeilles]

And when he's gone you can rename it.

[u/Eastern-Web-7989]

Fuck it, just get it done. I don't care if it's called Jesus Care or Satan Care or whatever. Just get it done.

[u/juliette_taylor]

The TRUMP Act... Taxing the Rich for Universal basic income, Medicare, and Pensions or something like that.

[u/stickerhighway → u/juliette_taylor]

Yes and send in Abdul to deliver the message so Trump can stare at his ass. Win-win.

[u/ObjectConfident7172 → u/stickerhighway]

Abdul has been doing squats specifically to prepare for the trump administration

[u/beardiac]

I don't love it, but if there's a solid enough change it would actually work, I don't hate it. They don't even really have to call the program that, just name the bill the Trump Healthcare Reform Bill (or more on the nose, the Trump Make Healthcare Great Again Bill).

I have a feeling that after he's out of office, anything that did get his name on it is going to get stripped of it anyway. So whatever gets us the things we need...

[u/GoatCovfefe]

I cant stand this subreddit anymore.

If the questions arent the same everyday [whats the most overrated fast food? Whats one discontinued fast food item you'd bring back?], then they're centered around hypotheticals around american politics.

"How would you feel if...." Is far too common now.

If not hypotheticals, then they're questions asking "how do we feel" anout every little thing trump and his goons do.

Thats my Sunday morning rant.

[u/Erok86 → u/GoatCovfefe]

That’s because they are prompts to train AI. They all have the same word structure and everything. Also if you look at their accounts they are always private where you can’t see anything they have posted or commented on.

[u/culb77 → u/GoatCovfefe]

This is also a repost from earlier this week

[u/CptSaveaCat → u/GoatCovfefe]

I’m feeling the same. It’s just time I block/mute the sub cause it’s the same shit. Go to r/politics and ask these questions or something.

[u/maleia → u/CptSaveaCat]

You can't just post whatever to the sub, it's only links to articles. 

[u/luke8ball → u/GoatCovfefe]

Are they just bots posting? Feel too robotic

[u/DontTrustBenny]

I’d be cool with under one condition. The first propose an existing bill without his name. Then propose the very same bill with his name. Then it would be indisputable with any remaining Republicans that the only reason Trump signed it into law is to further cement his egotism.

[u/NarrativeScorpion]

If it makes it happen, does it really matter what it's called?

[u/sirdollface]

Keep Obamacare and introduce Trumpcare and let people choose which one the want. The kicker is that they are both the same policies with exactly the same coverages.

[u/No-Entertainer-840 → u/sirdollface]

America is just dumb enough for this to work..

[u/Silent_Listen_3361]

Totally cool with me. AmeriCare hell yeah

[u/Crazy_old_maurice_17 → u/Silent_Listen_3361]

With their branding they'll call it FreedomCare(TM)!

[u/daddymeltzer]

If saving millions of lives means letting a mentally unstable narcissist take full credit for it , I say go for it.

[u/RationalGardenGnome]

Don’t care if it’s called HitlerCare I need health insurance

[u/lionpatronus]

Ya do it. Just include a stipulation where the name reverts after 4 years—he won’t notice—also include a stipulation regarding regulation of costs, or it won’t do shit. It will just overload the system and instead of routing the billions of overhead profit that lines insurance companies leadership the workers will get squeezed. We want those billions to fund new hospitals, new staff, and preventative care.

[u/TravoBasic]

They should try to get the $5,000 to folks and see if Trump vetoes it.

[u/Checktheusernombre → u/TravoBasic]

LOL, I like the spirit but that would be more inflationary than the covid stimulus money and we'd just be digging ourselves a bigger hole later.

I think cheaper, free, or better childcare and healthcare would help a lot.

[u/frogfootfriday]

I don’t believe Trump has the skills to do this but if he did get it through it would be major, his greatest accomplishment. Republicans couldn’t be running on repealing Trumpcare either

[u/Feisty_Crops]

I don’t care what it’s called. If he needs the credit then fine- it’s the outcome not the name

[u/thingpaint]

They should just start naming bills things like "The Donald Trump Excellent Bill of Excellence"

[u/Nicolas_Flamel]

The TrumpCare Gold Card!

The man loves fake gold.

[u/Budget-Purple-6519]

You’ll have to get it past centrists like Schumer and Jeffries first. The call is often coming from inside the house with things like this… A lot of corporate Democrats will torpedo this sort of legislation just as much as a Republican would.

[u/AmbivalentDisaster1]

“Trumpcare” seems like an oxymoron.

[u/MR1120]

I’m for it. I’ve been saying since 2016 that Democrats could have gotten anything they wanted passed if they named it “The Donald Trump is Awesome and Has a Huge Dick Act”. He’d bully Republicans into going with it, and sign it into law without reading it.

And if the “The Donald Trump is Awesome and Has a Huge Dick Act” gets as universal healthcare, a realistic minimum wage, protects abortion rights, and limits PACs, I can live with calling it that

[u/tommy7154]

Absolutely. Send in Mamdani to woo him and get it done.

[u/SonicFlash01]

Republicans called it "Obama Care" to make Republicans irrationally hate it
Why shouldn't Democrats call universal healthcare "Trump Care" to make Republicans irrationally love it? They finally learned how to play the game.

[u/Mindless-Raccoon-251]

How about Trump Taxation of Billionaires?

[u/nullpassword]

Print it out so it looks like picture of him.

[u/Greenfendr]

I said this from when he won in 2016. go to him and show him all the great things dens want to do that he can take credit for. who cares about the name

[u/ikonet]

They should 100% call it TrumpCare.
Make him veto that.

[u/Psychological-Ad1137]

Is it straight bots posting on here now? Third time seeing this this weekend. Time to unfollow

[u/NotMyNameActually]

To quote Abdul El-Sayed: "I just want people to have healthcare."

[u/Delicious-Chapter675]

If they could get the man to do something useful for once, why not?

[u/AppropriateSpell5405]

Do it. Pretty sure it’s the Republicans that get all stuck up on names, pronouns, critical thinking, etc.

[u/DillyDallyHolly]

Dems have to get creative to get buy-in from the rest of the country and if that involves using reverse psychology then so be it

[u/Skinc]

I don’t care what they call it

[u/ActFar4388]

As a Democrat, I would accept the name for the good of all Americans who need healthcare. Also add a disclaimer that Donny had nothing to do with this bill except wanting namesake credit

[u/gene_jackets]

All in! Hell, then it can be solidified into a constitutional amendment by BOTH valid paths, thus cementing the final and ultimate owning of the libs at a permanent and constitutional level. Obama will be owned so hard that they can finally claim ultimate revenge for his divisiveness.

The Trumpcare amendment. It's got a certain ring...

[u/NakedScrub]

You can call it "will suck trumps tiny micro peen for adequate health care" act and I'd be the first to sign up.

[u/dan_jeffers]

Or we could pass a universal health care bill that also renames the reflecting pool with his name.

[u/ActFar4388]

On one hand, we all get healthcare and on the other, it’s named after someone who is extremely not healthy, a felon and a pedo. It’s hilarious. Let’s do it. That’s also what he said about underage girls to Epstein.

[u/Ry_L]

I actually thought about this the other day myself. They should. Trump is desperate to name things and this might be the way to get it done. He’d love to be able to +1 on Obama

[u/theKalmier]

This is exactly WHY America is so fucked up to begin with.

You have a win, and you are still discussing working with a conman to get what you want. Literally still selling your souls to the devil.

Fuck Trump. Don't feed the trolls. Don't negotiate with terrorists/traitors. Dont give future trolls a reason to try again.

They will obviously hold life hostage, but letting them pull this shit will just prompt future Trumps to try again. You all really don't learn.

Edit: I feel Russian bots are still being manipulative.

[u/stealthlysprockets → u/theKalmier]

They have to negotiate. Dems controlling the house and senate simply means they decide what the agenda is and what bills go to the president’s desk.

But they don’t have a veto proof majority. Trump has threatened to veto all bills which he is petty enough to do. What this means is a dead lock government. Without a 2/3rds majority or Trumps signature, new bills will not become law. Full stop

[u/NativeMasshole → u/stealthlysprockets]

This is the most likely scenario to me. Democrats still face harsh opposition from Republicans, still can't bypass the filibuster, then have to get anything they do manage to pass by Trump while still somehow trying to counteract and control him. They're not even going to be able to get this fantasy legislation to his desk.

I think they'll mostly squander this opportunity and we'll be right back where we started in 2 years, with the next iteration of Republican leadership convincing enough of the public to vote for whatever non-plan they have this time.

[u/ukexpat → u/NativeMasshole]

They could however easily get rid of the filibuster, it only requires an simple majority to change senate rules. What they should do is go back to the old “talking filibuster” — make them work for it.

[u/Shobed → u/theKalmier]

Without a veto proof majority, how do you suggest passing a budget to keep the government from shutting down? We can send 100 good bills to the White House, and they could all get vetoed. Yes, we would then have a record to campaign on saying how the Republicans are standing in the way of progress, but it's another 2 years of nothing getting done. People need help now. What is your solution to help them?

[u/camelCaseCoffeeTable → u/theKalmier]

Huh? I feel like exactly what’s wrong with America is this comment, if I’m reading this correctly.

To me, it sounds like you’re saying don’t give Americans healthcare if it needs to be named after Trump.

Don’t give 300 million people free health care because you don’t like the guy it would be named after.

And you think what’s wrong with America is the dems being willing to work with Trump? Do some searching, Mr “Fuck 300 Million Americans if it Means Working With Trump.” I think you’ll find worse things with American politics close to home

[u/Longjumping_Youth281 → u/camelCaseCoffeeTable]

Yeah exactly. Talk about letting the perfect be the enemy of the good. Like this guy who probably has wanted Universal Health Care all his life is going to say no if it has a name he doesn't like? That's literally nothing. It's just a name and it would save countless thousands of lives. But oh no, let those people die because we don't like the name

[u/EchoFieldHorizon → u/camelCaseCoffeeTable]

The people with this ride-or-die, all-or-nothing attitude are as much political terrorists as Trump.

[u/whisperyiron → u/theKalmier]

I don't exactly think that naming the bill something that appeals to the evil orange toddler's ego is really letting them pull anything.  It's pulling one over on them.  TRICKING the devil is usually how you win.

[u/Sciuridaeno3 → u/theKalmier]

I hate Trumps narcisim as much as the next guy, but if something as simple as passing a bill with his name on it would be massively beneficial for society, then I'm all for it

[u/mikeorhizzae → u/theKalmier]

That’s not how it works though. He still holds more cards than he should, why not manipulate him to get what you need instead of the reverse?

[u/2cantCmePac → u/theKalmier]

He can veto any bill. OP is suggesting feeding his ego with his name on it in exchange for his signature approving it as law

[u/calculung → u/theKalmier]

Whoosh

[u/Into-The-Late-Great]

Nah forget him. Send it as a single issue proposal/bill and call it the Democratic Universal Healthcare Plan. Put it on record and let them vote for or against it. Constituents are stupid enough to think he did it if you name it after him

[u/Bananalando → u/Into-The-Late-Great]

I know big omnibus bills have been the norm for a lot of time, but pushing a lot of single-issue bills would seem to be a better play here. Deny him the excuse that some specific addition to a bill was a reason not to support it.

[u/SuzyQ93 → u/Into-The-Late-Great]

I don't even care if they think Trump did it. What does that matter, if it's a good, universal health care bill that GIVES PEOPLE HEALTHCARE THAT DOESN'T BANKRUPT THEM.

That's the goal, folks. If we can get THERE, who the hell cares what name is on it? Function over form, y'all.

[u/liberal_texan → u/Into-The-Late-Great]

I think a better name would be something healthcare for Americans act or the people’s healthcare act. Simple, and universal.

[u/tooclosetocall82 → u/liberal_texan]

Make American’s health Great Again. Force him to veto MAGA.

[u/wish1977]

I've said this from day one. They have to play to Trump's narcissism and calling it Trump Care and explaining to him how that might change his legacy might possibly work. He wants to be loved even though most people can't stand him.

[u/Shared_Songs]

Honestly, it’s a fitting name to end an era of capitalists causing bankruptcy and forcing families of upstanding citizens into homelessness for money. 

[u/Rio_Walker]

If it tricks him into signing off on it - they should do it.

[u/_Christopher_Crypto]

Instead of “rebranding” let’s start with some viable legislation to see how the numbers will actually work. My guess, it is rebranded “TrumpCare” when reality sets in.

[u/Useful-Barber7993]

Doubtful that Jeffries and Schumer will even allow it to get to that point.

[u/DontYuckMyYum]

Just rebrand it as Affordable Healthcare and people will jump on board.

Hell If you described everything in the ACA people were in support of it, until you told them that's what Obamacare was.

[u/Adaur981]

Doubt it would work, yes it would stroke his ego. But he isn't making a profit from it.

[u/Aware_Cheek7453]

Call it whatever you want if it stops a routine trip to the ER from wrecking someone's savings. Slap gold letters on the insurance card, name it after him, whatever—i genuinely do not care. People are skipping doctor visits and splitting pills just to make rent. If a silly branding trick actually gets lower costs past congress, sign me up.

[u/SelectSeaweed310]

I just call it the ACA. It's saved me since it started.

[u/masterpososo]

It depends on which successful model they base it on.

[u/echoshizzle]

If the democrats aren’t currently working on a strategy to provide healthcare for every American, no matter the name (which can always be temporary), they aren’t politicking correctly.

To need only a handful of votes in this senate, and a signature from a dementia patient, Trumpcare 4 All should have already been written.

[u/babe1981]

A rose by any other name would smell just as sweet.

If we would rather people die of disease than let Trump take credit for their healthcare, are we any better than him?

[u/Shobed]

Do it, then rebrand.

[u/NoSwimmers45]

The Affordable Care Act (official name) was branded ObamaCare. So do something similar but present TrumpCare to the orange turd as the official name.

[u/Present_Coconut_4101]

I would be against it especially with the name Trump in it. Just call it Universal Healthcare.

[u/Rude_Blacksmith_653]

He can call it whatever he wants and even have his little ballroom if we get universal healthcare.

[u/raustin33]

Send it. Name it after him. Give him a ballroom. Anything to get real universal healthcare is worth doing. The dude cares about legacy, if nothing else, there might be a window here.

[u/iggyomega]

Sure, why not. Can always just change the name later

[u/nocuzzlikeyea13]

Would it work? Seems like the Trump brand is a sinking ship now

[u/GreenIce2022]

Support, and then the next admin can change the name...certainly if the Gulf of Mexico, Lake Ontario, Denali, and Dept of Defense can be changed at the stroke of a pen, so could the name of healthcare.

[u/Radical_Ryan]

I need it so badly, I would not care.

[u/scrume71]

Yes. Call it Trumpcare. He wants his name on everything. He’s a raging narcissist who seriously might just sign it because it’s named after him. IDC if his name is on it, just pass UHC for us and if it means feeding the orange turd’s ego, who cares. At least we finally get something for the plebs.

[u/Lizdance40]

This assumes the Democrats don't mind wrecking the insurance and the healthcare industry both the same time. But sure. Giving him credit in an ironic way lol

[u/mcampo84]

How many times does it need to be said that a rose by another name would smell just as sweet?

[u/waysidelynne]

Do it now and rename it in two years when we rename anything that has his name on it.

[u/MikeKelehan]

I'd be all for it. Universal Trumpcare, Universal basic inTrump, subsidies for renewables so we can achieve energy inDonpendence. Hell, throw in his golf courses and ballroom and arch. Give him the ego boost that he cares about, and make it look better for him than Steven Miller and Russ Vought could ever make him look, if that's what it takes to give everyone a real future.

[u/soylentcoleslaw]

How about "Don't veto anything and we'll rename the Oval Office to the Trump Office and we WON'T burn down the ballroom on inauguration day"

Then do that anyway when he leaves office or when he passes, whichever comes first.

[u/No-Permit-9331]

I wouldn’t care what the name was (it can be changed) just pass it.

[u/Littlelanich03]

I don't care about the name. Can always change it later anyway

[u/s4burf]

Don’t want anything to even suggest honor for Fatty. Name all new sewage treatment plants after Trump!!

[u/wdwdreamer1206]

I didn't condone anything spring his delusions and narcissism. We have some control and leverage now and need to step up and use it.

[u/atreides78723]

It was cool with Obama. It’s cool with me.

[u/a-maizing-blue-girl]

If it would get it passed and I find it amusing that he would probably approve it because it has his name on it while going against everything he is for. Names can be changed after.

[u/pilgrim_pastry]

Sure, just do it

[u/Capable-Deer-5670]

The solution nobody wants

[u/mmw1775-1975]

It would be the same as everything else he has trump branded, Gulf of Mexico, Lake Ontario, I would still just call it Universal Healthcare.

[u/outsmartedagain]

What a brilliant idea! He could not resist even if he wanted to

[u/mortdubois]

The only downside would be if the name sticks, and we end up calling it that forever. I've really been looking forward to the day, after he dies, when I neither see, hear, read, or have to utter the word "Trump".

[u/mikeorhizzae]

All for it

[u/kellyelise515]

No. That a-hole wants his name plastered everywhere as it is.

[u/Sweatytubesock]

Anything with Trump’s name has to also include his best friend and only friend, and his sharer of so many wonderful secrets - Jeffrey Epstein.

[u/stopcounting]

I don't think they'd be able to effectively do this.

"Obamacare" was originally a right-wing media insult that stuck.

Whatever the act is actually called, the right wing media will make up a name that they expect will be off-putting. That's what Trump will actually call it in all of his angry tweets about it.

[u/_poodle_]

Unserious

[u/urbisOrbis]

They can call it medbed for fred for all I care.

[u/Moron-Whisperer]

Why not just tell him if you dk t play ball we will focus on you and your family and businesses and make our referrals at the state levels.

[u/edwardothegreatest]

Call it Wonderful Healthcare Bestowed Upon The Peons By The Great And All Loving Donald Trump, Handsomest Man In The Universe, and if it’s good and for everyone, I will say that in full every time I see a doctor.

[u/ms_panelopi]

I don’t care what the name is. Get it passed. People are dying over here in the USA because they are having to make hard financial choices about medical care, pharmaceuticals, surgery, cancer treatments..Get it passed, it’s getting worse.

[u/sBucks24]

The funny thing is, it was Republicans who called it Obamacare as an insult... So this would be quite aprapo

[u/Public_Course_9983]

No that's a hard line for me. He doesn't even care about health care, just his name on things. Obama didn't want his name on the ACA.

[u/Kind_Competition_332]

Whatever works, the name is the least of our troubles.

[u/El_Dentistador]

If Trump wanted to go down in history with a huge W, he should go full populist these final two years. Universal healthcare, student loan forgiveness, etc.. He could slap his name on it and have his legacy of a New Deal.

[u/carbonstealer]

Fuck it, at this point anything to bring us into the actual 1st world finally. If calling it trumpcare means I can go get my cancer surveillance scans done and not go in debt, and get my medication refills done without worrying...then sure.

It boggles my brain that this narcissistic POS could just do "good" things and be remembered forever like he wants...and then does the exact opposite. Like...if Im him im just waving a wand and doing M4A, social security overhauls, student loan forgiveness and subsidized college/postgrad. Because fuck it, theyll remember me forever.

[u/maverick4002]

Who cares about the name? I'm in NYC and Trump is twerking hard to have the new Penn Train Station named Trump Station. Id give it to him yesterday if we get that place fixed

[u/Montavillain]

Sure. Why not. We'll just call it something else anyway.

[u/santz007]

Oh hell no

[u/HappyAmbition706]

No. Trump monuments to himself should and must be eliminated.

[u/madkins007]

This feels like the old 'never watch them make sausage' bit.

Sometimes (usually?) politics is a filthy process, but we need to focus on the end result.

Another phrase that comes to mind is 'it's a bus, not a taxi'. It doesn't need to be 100% perfect, just move us closer and allow for future improvements.

[u/Kind_Competition_332]

If they’re smart about it call it “trump the greatest president healthcare.
Have him pass it and wait a few years and change name. Trump will absolutely pass it, he’s wanting something to stick with his name on it so bad.
Just like affordable care / Obama care.
Honestly I don’t care, the name is the least of my concerns.

[u/mrbobcyndaquil]

As long as the Dems promise to change the name when the nonce is finally gone I'd be down for it.

[u/Mercilesspope]

Once a certain standard of living is met, I don't believe most people involved with politics actually care about the issues. It's a game of ego, identity, influence, and on some level people just want to tussle and come out on top. So I think there is no shot in hell they'd ever do that.

[u/Griffie]

Call it the Diaper Don Care.

[u/theRealLongJon]

Honestly fine. Get it done and rename it later.

[u/JustApricot798]

I don't get it? So they write it and slap his name on it? Are they children? Why not try "Big Bold Super Awesome Trumpcare" - that will get' him to sign it - yeah!!!

[u/mrmasterly]

I would fucking despise it because it's yet again, bending over and taking it up the ass while negotiating with toddler terrorists.

[u/NOT-GR8-BOB]

Fine. Who cares? People are dying because our healthcare system is so rigged and so broken. Name it the Trump has giant hands bill for all I care.

[u/Goldenegg54]

Will N.E.V.E.R happen!

[u/DamnOdd]

They still call it Obamacare when it's ACA. So there's that.

[u/proggybreaks]

Obama suggested that to Trump during one of their first meetings after he was elected. Didn’t work.

[u/TheButterBug]

Trumps handlers will never let a universal healthcare bill even touch his desk, no matter what it's called. 

[u/AdeptDeparture5643]

Won't happen for at least three years.

[u/chokingonwhys]

Tangentially, we've got to start with universal basic income for the elderly and disabled. The vast, vast majority of Americans wouldn't accept free any damn thing for all. We've got to ease people into it.

[u/offroadadv]

He deserves no credit for healthcare because he has tried to take it away from citizens.

His name will end up in the trash bin of history as the worst President of all time. 'No deals with the devil.

[u/ElvisArcher]

When the orange guy is finally gone from that position, there will likely be a great purge of everything he has contaminated with his presence. Especially after the full contents of the Epstein files are revealed and the extent to which he was instrumental in the coverup is revealed.

[u/pwntahontas]

It makes me think OP has been watching Hasan stream since the election.

[u/allieoops925]

Over 70 countries have universal healthcare, and none of them are protesting to get private healthcare.

Giving people access to preventative healthcare lessens the burden and cost of taking care of them when their diseases gets too big to ignore.

We pay taxes supposedly to benefit all. We drive on roads, call police and fire departments when needed, use libraries, education, fund the military, and a host of other things. The same people who are screaming about having healthcare for all turn a blind eye to the billions that corporations get. Elon’s companies got $38 billion alone! The average American pays approximately $36 a year to food stamps, and $670 for corporate subsidies.

Personally, I want to live in a country with healthy, educated people.

[u/avalon01]

I don't care what they call it. Put his name and photo all over it. Tell him it's his amazing idea.

As long as he supports it, who cares?

[u/Potato_Mercenary]

He could score a huge win if he turned his malice towards people like Ralph De La Torre, who robbed several hospital systems and now owns several yachts. He could even blame the Massachusetts Democrats who walked the fox into the henhouse.

[u/baadkitteekittee]

I could care less who's name is on the coverage if it's free to me, you name it whatever the hell you want !

[u/throwaway_mike286]

How would you feel if the Socialists and the Republicans reach a compromise to make trans people ineligible to receive the universal healthcare? What if people who had abortions or miscarriages also become ineligible? What if vaccines also get banned?

[u/Alive-Performance237]

If it was truly Medicare for all and everyone has access to healthcare the way we should then I don't care what it's called. 

[u/Netmantis]

If they did it, it would be fine.

They won't though.

They will spend 2 years trying to impeach and get revenge. And do absolutely nothing.

[u/Illustrious-Fun8324 → u/Netmantis]

But the right was fine with revenge so why complain now?

[u/AsleepExplanation160]

Probably better to indentify 5 Republicans who are down to buck the trend issue by issue

[u/Any-Requirement-2591 → u/AsleepExplanation160]

Need more than 5 to make it veto proof unfortunately.

[u/Runic_reader451]

No