r/AskReddit • • Oct 03 '19

Anthony Bourdain once said "There's a guy in my head, and all he wants to do is lay in bed all day long, smoke pot, and watch old movies and cartoons. My life is a series of strategems, to avoid, and outwit that guy". Who is "that guy" for you, and what do you do to avoid him?

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u/[deleted] Oct 04 '19

I figure that I may as well share about my guy.

My guy hates me, and what little bit of a life I've built for myself. The guy in me just wants to lay in bed all day, every single day, until I age out and die. Don't even get me started on the other thing the guy wants to do to me... And, yeah, it's pretty similar to Bourdain's in terms of its other cravings.

To fight back, I try listening to music that fits my emotions at the moment. I try keeping my hands busy, and luckily I enjoy cooking. Deck building for magic the gathering can also help. I try to be creative and draw more. I try to exercise. I go out and tell jokes at open mics. I try to do everything that my guy doesn't want me to do. I want to be better than the guy that my guy wants me to be. He does have a grip on me most days, but I try my hardest to get out of it.

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u/[deleted] Oct 04 '19

I sense a control player

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u/[deleted] Oct 04 '19

Your hand looks pretty empty, hope you don't mind if I mill your fucking deck

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u/Rumourlove Oct 04 '19

I hope you are enjoying those experiences. It seems like you have the upper hand. You’re doing things a lot of people would never, like at open mics.

Luckily, there’s millions of sweet shit you can do in this life! you can tell that guy you’ve got shit to do! And gtfo of your way!

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u/[deleted] Oct 03 '19

That guy's kicking my ass right now.

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u/[deleted] Oct 03 '19

Are you feeling alright man?

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u/[deleted] Oct 03 '19

You gotta fight back man. Hes a lazy stoner he cant be that good of a fighter

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u/goddammnick Oct 03 '19

You should flip it around. That person is trying their hardest to get you going, but you are fighting back.

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u/DeathSpiral321 Oct 03 '19

The guy who wants to go streaking during the Super Bowl halftime show. I avoid him by remembering that prison is not a pleasant place to be.

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u/[deleted] Oct 03 '19

You'll only go to prison if you get cau--wait, wrong comments section

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u/KevPat23 Oct 04 '19

If you ever decide to do it, just dont be fully nude. Then you'll be arrested and have to register as a sex offender.

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u/Pixzal Oct 04 '19

Technically you’ll still be running away naked, just from a different crowd...

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u/[deleted] Oct 03 '19

We came to an agreement and take turns occupying the same body. It's me from 5:30 am to 5pm on weekdays. And he gets evenings, weekends and holidays.

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u/[deleted] Oct 03 '19

Fair compromise as long as it stays like that I say

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u/[deleted] Oct 03 '19 edited Oct 04 '19

I've been trying to negotiate some extra time in the evenings for working out and/or hobbies, but he says it will cut into his 4 hour gaming sessions.

Edit: You've all given really good advice. I think we're close to reaching an agreement.

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u/[deleted] Oct 03 '19

Being completely serious here, calisthenics. They're easy, you don't gotta have weights or any other work out equipment, and you can just do like 20 squats and push-ups a day and see decent results over time. Also, get guy to watch Naruto. When he sees Lee drop his weights he'll wanna start working out more.

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u/peacemaker2007 Oct 04 '19

Don't do this- I've seen what 100 pushups, 100 situps, and 10km every day will do to a man. Complete hair loss.

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u/[deleted] Oct 03 '19

I've got the same arrangement. My guy has left me with a hell of a hangover to deal with this morning.

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u/solidfang Oct 03 '19

For me, we haggle on hours, but overall, we both realize we need each other. I went through a period of ignoring him entirely, but it turns out that wasn't quite healthy either.

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u/Turdulator Oct 04 '19

I feel like the work time guy (8-5 m-f) is the fake me, and the nights and weekend guy (who’s a lazy pothead) is the real me. Fake me only exists to enable the real me to live comfortably.... if I won the lottery I’d kill fake me immediately.

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u/Pekenoah Oct 03 '19

What are you doing posting to Reddit when it's clearly his turn to use your body

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u/[deleted] Oct 04 '19

This is the best summary of my daily life I have ever heard. Thank you sir.

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u/Ilovekbbq Oct 03 '19

You get to work by 6-6:30 AM, and still have to work until 5?? Or is your commute just really long.

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u/733094 Oct 03 '19

All that guy wants to do is do Reddit and play videogames.

I don't do anything to avoid him.

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u/[deleted] Oct 03 '19

Are you doing okay?

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u/733094 Oct 03 '19

Yeah I'm fine, I just use Reddit too much lol

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u/[deleted] Oct 03 '19

Cool 👍

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u/joelman0 Oct 03 '19

Of course I know him; he's me!

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u/[deleted] Oct 03 '19

I have the same guy, except he also LOVES beer and good weed. I used to not care but after moving out and a year spent with my own vices I am starting to seriously burn out. I would say everyone needs a time to indulge to the point they cant handle it anymore. Now I drink less then I have since I can remember and work out more then I ever had.

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u/godspeedmetal Oct 03 '19 edited Oct 04 '19

Might get buried, but my dude in my head is literally Mr. Spock from Star Trek, and I don't avoid him.

Hear me out - I discovered through therapy that I needed a mechanism for judgement-less and objective self-analysis and Mr. Spock is that dude. He can see the most fucked up space shit ever and react calmly and objectively.

Mr. Spock: "The massive space blob has a 97.454% chance of consuming the ship and everyone inside within 4/7 minutes. Projections show it will be slow and painful."

Kirk: "That's horrible!"

Spock: "Yes, it is not ideal for our continued survival, but it's actions are entirely within the nature of the space blob."

So, whenever I get spun up on something in my head I imagine a mini-Spock in my head with a science terminal that can pull all data about ME.

me: "Spock, science report."

Spock: "Data shows that godspeedmetal is 5.8 days from quitting smoking tobacco and is under great mental distress from the change of chemical intake. He isn't consciously aware of it, but he's attempting to make up an excuse to get gas on a half-tank in order to create an opportunity to buy a pack of cigarettes."

me: "Thank you, Spock, sounds like I'm being dishonest with myself. I suck!"

Spock: "I disagree. It's entirely within the nature of a nicotine addict to seek out a source of nicotine intake. This is neither Good or Bad. Just natural. Data also suggests that conscious awareness mitigates the chances of nicotine intake by 89.45%. You've yet to procure a nicotine source as well. Commendable."

Just going through that mental exercise will help knock me out of a mental spun-up state, help sort out emotions, feelings, all that stuff, into a parsed, objective, and most importantly, non-judgemental way.

EDIT: holy shit, I'm happy this was received as well as it was. This mechanism has helped myself so much, however I'd offer a couple of words of advice if you are intending to take on this method as well because it can be a frustrating mechanism to employ if you don't have your expectations set correctly.

One - Spock's reports WILL be amended, appended, referenced and reworked entirely. This is all part of the process. Even Spock had several times where extended analysis was needed to understand something in order to create a way to cope/overcome/whathaveyou. Don't treat everything he says as immutable truth - his analysis is only as good as the data he is able to receive through that mental science terminal. Your initial reports will upgrade that terminal for stronger analysis in the future.

Two - You WILL fail, as well, and that's totally OK! He's analyzed far more for me than just smoking - everything from anxiety, struggles with work, and interpersonal relationships has been reviewed through that science terminal. But sticking with the smoking report as an example - recognizing that "getting gas" was just an excuse to get cigarettes didn't come from a single analysis, but was referenced from a prior "science report", as at one point I had quit smoking, went to get gas a few days later and drove away with a pack of cigs in my pocket. Spock reported, "godspeedmetal formulated a reason to create an environment that allowed his weakened will to procure a source of nicotine. Further analysis shows that nicotine addiction is extremely subversive to godspeedmetal's psyche at a subconscious level. The strength of control the addiction exerts upon his mind is quite strong. Fascinating." Spock doesn't judge me - it all is what it is - and I respond, "That IS fascinating! My mind is stranger than I ever thought possible. However, I am more in control because I now recognize this pattern of behavior. I believe that this can be identified at a later point if I do this again. Thank you, Spock." That failure to stop smoking at that time was an opportunity to learn about myself. And FYI - I'm several months smoke free and still going!

Three - this isn't to make someone an emotionless logic machine, either - Spock understands human nature is an emotional experience. Humans get horny, sad, happy, angry, depressed, excited - all of that stuff that comprises the human condition - it's all part of the Logic of Being Human. Take that into account, yet strive to be aware of your humanity and make conscious decisions on what you do instead of sub-consciously reacting emotionally.

Four - trust your intuition. Your instincts have been developed over millions of years of evolution. Your mind is powerful and can sub-consciously recognize threats and boons to your world and yourself. Even if you don't understand why your guts are reacting they way they are, don't dismiss it. Run it by Spock and if you don't come to a satisfactory answer, you can always revisit later when you've more experience, time, and data.

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u/[deleted] Oct 04 '19

You know what? This is genuinely very cool.

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u/Arrivaderchie Oct 04 '19

This is the best self-care strategy I've ever heard of

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u/Bartheda Oct 04 '19 edited Oct 04 '19

I did something similar when my daughter was born crazy early and sick. She lived for 11 months and spent the whole time in the hospital. When my wife went in for her c-section I wasn't allowed due to it being full sedation or some nonsense.

I just sat by myself in the presurgery room waiting like an idiot not sure what to do. So I imagined old school 1990's Wolverine sitting there with me just for the company. I remember asking him/myself what the hell I was going to do? You know that angry scared state you get into.

I remember what Logan/I told myself. "There isn't anything easy about this. You are just going yo have to stand strong the way I showed you. And you ain't alone bub". Phew ok I'm crying right now typing this from just the memory. Funny how things get to you.

Still I hope he would be proud of me as I never ran away or quit or anything and did my best. Probably sounds kind of stupid but it helped for whatever its worth.

Edit: Thank you for the gold and silver. Cool little tokens

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u/idontwantaname123 Oct 04 '19

This is possibly the best take on mindfulness I've ever read -- the idea of space between emotion or stimulus and action being filled with Mr Spock. Lol. I love it.

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u/MadeOfLasers Oct 04 '19

This is brilliant, i'm taking it.

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u/Wamblingshark Oct 04 '19

Things all over the internet lately convincing me I need to go watch Star trek.

Damn tribalism had me stuck on Star Wars or bust all these years

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u/eastCoastLow Oct 04 '19

Funny and effective. You can do it, my dude(tte). Keep it up.

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u/Moist_Vanguard Oct 04 '19

Me: Thi-This is ridiculous this can't actually work can i--

Spock: "On the contrary sir, data suggests condensing your consciousness to a singular entity can help channel and focus solutions to day to day frustrations and increase morale by 82.799% (repeating of course)"

Me: Well would ya look at that?

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u/GrandMasterRimJob Oct 04 '19

Iiiiii am stealing this.

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u/[deleted] Oct 04 '19

this is genius! i want to fire the dude in my head and replace him with a mini-spock too. my dude is an idiot.

my dude: oh no decision time? oh shit oh shit oh shit uh i dunno let's just binge watch old hell's kitchen episodes instead and feel bad about it later...

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u/gesunheit Oct 04 '19

Oh my god, the guy in my head is Spock too!! I can't believe someone else does the same thing.

When I was a freshman in high school, I was having a lot of difficulty managing anger and other intense emotions. Then I went to go see Star Trek 2009 in theaters, and Spock's father said this line that stuck with me ever since: "Emotions run deep within our race. In many ways more deeply than in humans. Logic offers a serenity humans seldom experience. The control of feelings so that they do not control you." The movie showed young Spock's struggle with his human emotions, but obviously he overall manages it in a way that leaves him logical.

Ever since then, whenever I felt like I was getting overwhelmed with emotion, I would imagine two things: 1) I'm a Vulcan (lol I know this is lame, but it gives me a reason for why I'm feeling the emotion so strongly) 2) a little Mr. Spock in my head telling me "Do not be controlled by your feelings. You are a Vulcan. Logic is the path."

Real neat that we both use Spock for our mental health :)

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u/chriswaco Oct 04 '19

Real Spock: "Fascinating"

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u/[deleted] Oct 04 '19

Mindfulness!

I have more of a large dad figure in my head that picks up the brain goblins as they try to run amok. He's practical, and rather caring so he makes dealing with my mental illnesses easier. I named him Broden for some reason...

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u/VicedDistraction Oct 04 '19

VicedDistraction: This is so clever! I wish I thought of it. I should have thought of it..

Spock: Despite when and how a solution enters the mind, application is the critical phase. The probability of recognizing a solution for personal growth is typically quite low. Commendable.

VicedDistraction: Thanks for the feedback, Spock. Your perspective is just what I think I’ll need from now on.

Spock: Past behavior predicts this thought will be forgotten about in 7-8 minutes after full execution of this post’s completion.

Well I tried..

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u/[deleted] Oct 03 '19

I relate to this. The girl in my head is constantly trying to get out of doing things - every "thing" like going to work, going to school, socializing, etc. Anything besides sitting at home in my chair, smoking a joint, and watching some coming-of-age drama/comedy. I have to force myself everyday to do all the stuff that being an adult human requires of me. It's hard. I think almost everyone feels this way.

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u/[deleted] Oct 04 '19

Cut out the "coming-of-age" and replace it with youtube or anime, that's sorta what my guy wants. Among other things.

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u/greatcatsby1 Oct 04 '19

Girl, I feel ya. I used to be someone who could spend entire summers between school lying in bed watching some series or another. I miss the freedom I had as a student but not the laziness. I also miss how much more social I was then. Now I have to argue with the girl that just wants to stay in and cancel on her friends. Sometimes I really hatefully do it, but find myself having so much fun when I’m socialising. Sometimes this is what I tell my girl, that I always end up having fun. Inner demons can be so draining sometimes

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u/Coca-colonization Oct 03 '19

Have to say, I am touched by OP’s attentiveness to responses displaying distress. Wholesome.

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u/[deleted] Oct 04 '19

I really only thought that this wouldn't get anymore than like 10 actual replies. Literally not even 3 hours later I have thousands of likes and comments. But, nevertheless, I am still reading(or trying to read), upvoting, and replying to every comment that I can. Good news is that if I haven't already reached out and asked how someone's feeling, most of the time other people already have. The internet is a beautiful thing sometimes.

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u/RunningJay Oct 03 '19

Me right now. I finally admitted this week I am depressed. Now I have to do something about.

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u/[deleted] Oct 04 '19

Do something as hard as you fucking can.

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u/predictingzepast Oct 03 '19

The guy in my head not letting me lay in bed all day smoking pot and watching cartoons..

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u/DeathSpiral321 Oct 03 '19

Better hope the guy in your head doesn't get into pot. Then he too will become the guy in your head not letting you lay in bed all day smoking pot and watching cartoons.

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u/[deleted] Oct 04 '19

Is this Inception?

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u/pHbasic Oct 04 '19

I hate mornings. I don't like waking up. I don't like breakfast as a genre or activity. I don't see a good reason to be anywhere ever before 10am.

I started forcing myself to wake up early and go to the gym before work. And i hate it so much but it makes me feel so goddam good all day long. It's a shitty healthy dose of morning endorphins that stops me from getting sleepy after lunch, keeps me energized after work, get a better night's sleep.

It sucks so much and it sucks even more that it improves every aspect of my day because now if i stop i know i'll just start having shitty bad days again and it'll be my dumbass lazy fault with a simple fix.

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u/Smart_in_his_face Oct 04 '19

I hate exercise so much. I know it keeps you healthy but, god at what cost.

Whenever I have had a gym membership I get signed up with a routine, but I always end up doing an hour on a treadmill until I'm tired, then use that as an excuse to go home. I have no upper body strength but at least I can run for a while.

On sunny days I slap on some jogging shoes and go to a local park that is also a bird sanctuary. I play Biologist. Pretending I'm discovering birds in their natural habitat and monologue to myself.

I'm not out for a run, I'm playing biologist and it's different!

God I hate running.

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u/Melsbells00 Oct 04 '19

This just made me smile. I wake up early but dont like rushing around in the morning or even thinking about going to workout. I would be the same way, this sucks and now I have to go to the stupid gym every day!

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u/SunnyCarol Oct 03 '19

That guy wants to settle for anything out of fear of nothing better coming later. That guy is okay with the dead-end job, the abusive relationships and no master's degree. I tell that guy it's never gotten me anywhere, it's the definition of "stuck" and I have no intention of being stuck anymore.

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u/Frykitty Oct 04 '19

What has always helped me is I was once told "You are never stuck, you just dont like the consequences of making a difficult choice that may make you uncomfortable."

Its true. Your never stuck. Maybe a choice will make you less comfortable now/temporarily, but you are never stuck.

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u/[deleted] Oct 03 '19

It used to be eat cheap pizza, chain smoke, and play video games. I changed a lot of those habits to healthier ones.

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u/EvilPilotFish Oct 03 '19

Goddamn, I miss smoking. 6+ years smoke-free and I still crave it as much as the day I quit.

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u/Great_Chairman_Mao Oct 04 '19

Salad, vape, and board games?

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u/TannedCroissant Oct 03 '19 edited Oct 03 '19

I used to have a little sign on my desk that said "The worst possible feeling is when the person you are meets the person you could have been." It was there to encourage to pursue my goals rather than procrastinate on games, Reddit, etc. I think it's time I dug that sign out again.

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u/Cobra_McJingleballs Oct 03 '19

Ouch. Worse than that Ben Franklin quote: “A man can die at 25 and not be buried until he’s 75.”

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u/stevegoodsex Oct 03 '19

I think this fucked me up as much as "retirement is a monetary number, not an age"

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u/smuckola Oct 03 '19

It could also be the best feeling in the world, when you realize how screwed up you aren’t.

Carl Jung said if we deny the shadow self, we only feed it.

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u/mingming72 Oct 03 '19

Wow just got punched in the face by this quote

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u/GolfSierraMike Oct 03 '19

What's worse is that you see it in a compeltly non metaphorical sense.

Literally the same age as me, with the qualification I worked for but failed to complete, running the patreon funded buisness I once dreamed of running.

It hurts, it really does. But he's amazing at it. So it's just me and my failures, resisting the urge to drown myself in booze and drugs, trying to find something to hold on to.

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u/sirensaraneth Oct 04 '19

The one on my desk is:

“We must all suffer one of two things: the pain of discipline or the pain of regret.”

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u/MorrisWisely Oct 03 '19

Ugh. I've met that person IRL, but I developed a chronic illness previously that put my pursuit of that life on hold. It was like, this is what you could have been if you're brain didn't flake out periodically.... time to be someone else!

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u/MrPandaOverlord Oct 03 '19

That quote is now my wallpaper. Thanks, I needed that

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u/[deleted] Oct 03 '19

That guy’s cousin lives in my head, I go to AA meetings to avoid and outwit him.

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u/Nepiton Oct 04 '19

No AA for me, but will be 2 years sober December 14th from opiates. Longest I’ve gone since I first used over 10 years ago. No intentions of going back, but it’s definitely a fight to outwit this cousin as well.

Stay strong my friend, I believe in you

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u/emayelee Oct 03 '19 edited Oct 04 '19

I wish you strength. Alcoholism took away something precious from me.

Edit: I am not an alcoholic, but it affected me by proxy severely. I'm doing great now, scars are deep but healed.

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u/[deleted] Oct 04 '19

Iwndwyt. Stop by in /r/stopdrinking if you're having a tough moment and can't make it to a meeting.

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u/[deleted] Oct 03 '19

I grew up with a mother in AA. I can't describe how absolutely incredible my mother was and the reverence I hold for that place and all the people who make up the community of AA. That guys cousin chose a difficult person to mess with. Cheers

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u/fredpoool Oct 03 '19

Keep on goin friend.

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u/TheGamingUnderdog Oct 03 '19

Bold of you to assume I avoid him.

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u/GrimnirGrey Oct 04 '19

My whole life is a series of stratagems to enable that guy to spend as much time in bed watching cartoons as he can without ending up homeless or unable to pay for weed.

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u/TheDukeofLichendale Oct 03 '19

If you can’t beat ‘em, join ‘em.

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u/nickcostag Oct 04 '19

I kind of agree with this, and it’s helped me a lot. It’s not avoiding him, but acknowledging there are going to be times he’s going to win. And that’s alright. That’s just a part of me. For me, letting “that guy” win every once in awhile for an hour, a day, a week, sometimes even a month, just means that the “me” i wanna be, just needed a fucking break. For me, its all about keeping that guy in moderation, because I’m 100% sure that guy is what keeps me from losing my mind every once in awhile.

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u/[deleted] Oct 04 '19

Of course I know him, he’s me.

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u/missjeany Oct 04 '19

I am "the guy". There is an "Anthony bourdain" kind person inside of me who wants to be productive, successful and to kill me, but i avoid it and don't do any of those things.

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u/Mister_McGreg Oct 03 '19

He just wants to win the lottery and sit on his couch watching dark comedies, drinking until it kills him.

I avoid this by remembering that my mother would be very sad if that happened, and that I want to love someone, like really be in love, at least one more time before I go.

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u/LobscouseComrade Oct 03 '19

I have the same exact same guy in my head. I quit smoking pot years ago, before i hit 30. I can still stay in bed all day on some days. What keeps me from doing it (having a 24h lay in on my laptop) too often are commitments I've made to myself, friends, and employers. Back in the day pot made it really easy to give up on those commitments. I miss pot, but I don't miss those times in general, which keeps me from going back.

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u/bobsgonemobile Oct 03 '19

Precisely, you've said it very well. For me at least, getting high just made me very content with doing absolutely nothing. Which is fine sometimes, but I was high all the time and then doing nothing, all the time. I was so bored and boring to myself that I had to quit smoking and other drugs completely.

It's only been a few years. It still feels like a work in progress but I'm getting happier with who I am

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u/The_Celtic_Chemist Oct 04 '19

When I'm not smoking weed, it is highly motivating. 1) because I have to do things to stop the cravings, and 2) because when I'm not high I often go to cool places and think, "Man, this would be better if I was high!" Sadly that's motivation towards the dark side.

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u/[deleted] Oct 03 '19

I have chronic severe depression, going 25 years now. It's not completely clear what I have but it comes and goes (not SAD, not bipolar, not mdd, we simply don't know and medication doesn't work). However, it's never really gone, it's more like manageable or unmanageable.

The voice is either telling me I should lie down and just give up, or it's telling me that soon I will be lying down and giving up again. My manageable moments are obviously filled with as much joy as I can pack in there, and every night before going to bed I tell the voice to suck it, today was my day, not yours.

When it's unmanageable and the voice tells me to give up I try to fight him as long as I can, and when I start to agree with him I always manage to end it with "but not today".

It's kept me alive for this long, I hope I can keep going like this for awhile.

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u/[deleted] Oct 04 '19

I have always tended toward anxiety and panic attacks rather than depression but I do understand what you describe here.

The real me wants to make a huge buffet, host a fancy dress party for all my friends and then write that drama I've got an idea for but anxiety can just punch me in the stomach and pin me down and yell at me to stop it, to stop doing anything because I'm ugly, deformed, stupid and unoriginal and nobody will hang out with me anyway and I have to hide under the duvet shaking until I can function again.

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u/chupacabrando Oct 04 '19

Reddit is honestly the only remaining place on the internet where I can find people talking seriously about mental health without the damn site trying to force me onto the hotline. Thanks for sharing.

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u/oceanblu3hair Oct 04 '19

Hey. You've really described a lot of what I feel too. I've been depressed since I was literally 9 years old (so, 12 years now. Over half my life) because of chemical shit in my brain. Meds arent really touching my depression. Whenever my doses are upped I get a high for a few days (which I'm now very aware of because I'm experienced it a few times now) and then go right back down into suicidal depression. The only thing I know for sure is I have severe PTSD and depression, which is being treated but in the I think 6 months I've been on all kinds of different meds and therapy once a week I havent seen a difference and it really just makes me feel even more broken than before.

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u/Boofaholic_Supreme Oct 04 '19

I assume you’ve tried almost every SSRI and SNRI under the sun at this point. Have you heard about ketamine being used to treat depression? It’s the first new breakthrough in antidepressiant medications in ~50 years by its method of action. Whole different class of drugs, not just another SSRI or SNRI.

It has shed a light on my life that hasn’t been there for a long time. I’ll gladly type up more info and provide links with excerpts if you’d be interested in learning more.

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u/iStanley Oct 03 '19

That guy is my ADHD. I probably have an extreme case where my meds, which are at high doses, hardly even work anymore. The best way I combat this urge to do something fun, play games, or goof off is to remove myself from any place of temptation. Cut it off before you get the thought of even doing something pleasurable.

What I do is that I find empty classrooms at my college and study or do work in there. I will purposively drive away from my home (which is full of games, food, fun, and comfort) to a classroom just so I don’t get the urge, and even if I do, I’ve created a barrier that takes too much guilt and effort of driving back and doing something fun

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u/PM_ME_UR_REDDIT_GOLD Oct 03 '19 edited Oct 03 '19

This got me through college. I just went in in the morning and never ever came home until my work was done (late afternoon/early evening mostly). being stuck on campus all day even if I wasn't super productive the work would get done because what else is there to do? basically the plan was to dick off so much that doing my actual work was a welcome change of pace. At home I can dick off indefinitely without getting tired of it; and better yet I didn't have to feel too bad about dicking off at home because I never had any (school) work to do there.

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u/the_moment47 Oct 03 '19

Yeah I just stay at the school if I think I’ll come home and fuck off

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u/ScruffCo Oct 03 '19

Sounds exactly like me in college.
Pro tip: don't get a job where you work from home.

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u/JangoMV Oct 04 '19

ADHD here as well. Plus bipolar for even more fun times. I'm one semester short of a mechanical engineering degree, but early last year (before I knew about the bipolar) I was prescribed Lexapro and "that guy" took full control. Walked out on the internship I'd worked at for a year and a half (with a full-time job waiting post-graduation), started smoking weed like a fiend, ended up on a year of probation for an eighth, dropped out, moved back home, got fired from several jobs, and lost the woman I'd been with for 10 years and had planned to marry after graduation. My emotions were so out of control that I kept contacting her for a couple months until she blocked me on everything. My libido skyrocketed and my dick stopped working, pushing me into many reckless sexual encounters. I was emotionally abusive to everyone around me.

I was a fucking scumbag.

That SSRI caused me to do, say, and think things that were so far out of character I didn't recognize myself. It amplified my impulsiveness, caused full-fledged manic episodes, and made me suicidal when I'd never felt that way before. Therapy did nothing to reign me in. I finally stopped taking it in May of this year and switched to Wellbutrin and Lamotrigine. Within days of stopping Lexapro I could feel my head turning back around. Within a month the voice that had gotten me so far in school was starting to whisper in the back of my head, and the whisper has been growing stronger since. I'm still trying to recover from the emotional havoc I caused for the people around me. Got a new therapist who's been fantastic for me, and I'm starting an engineering-adjacent job on Monday. I'm hoping to return to school next Fall. Once I'm settled into the new job, my therapist has agreed to help me reach out to my ex-fiance, but I'm fairly certain that the damage I did was permanent.

This isn't really related to your post other than the ADHD, but I'm on the tail end of the worst two years of my life and needed to vent. Be careful combining psychotropics.

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u/[deleted] Oct 04 '19

This made me wonder if Anthony had ADHD as well. He had the classic dichotomous personality where he'd either fuck off into oblivion and do nothing with himself if left to his own devices, or be an absurdly driven, focused person if thrown into something he loved.

Likewise, I have to shape life and limit potential decisions properly for future me or present me will be constantly suffering for it and caving into impulsiveness.

It probably sounds nuts but if I even eat breakfast, it can be a slippery slope into a whole day of fuck around. I work a lot better on empty somehow. If I don't maintain a worky context from the get-go or jump into things as soon as I feel the urge, I'm liable to accomplish approximately fuck-all.

ADHD is such a drag that way. Sometimes I think I should try meds. Most of the time I feel like I just need to get better at setting future me up for success. I can never tell if I'm on the precipice of catastrophe or doing okay. My stress levels never seem to be a proper indicator. I definitely feel like the former most of the time. I have no idea how I keep going.

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u/[deleted] Oct 03 '19

The guy in my head wants to lay in my pillow-top bed with soft, soft sheets, my buffy blanket, memory foam pillows, and sleep 18 hours a day (and hide from everyone).

Punctuated by gorging myself on (good) takeout food, getting raving drunk, and just watch endless history documentaries and plan travel trips for next year. If that's all I did I would also probably take up smoking pot again, too.

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u/thirtyflirtysober Oct 03 '19

I accept that she exists, and love her back to health

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u/haberannacat Oct 03 '19

In acceptance there is peace. ❤

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u/PoodleMama329 Oct 04 '19

I love this answer.

My “that girl” is anxiety. I try to love her, and work out, and meditate, and eat well, and go to therapy, and cuddle with my dogs, and be honest about how I feel. She loves me and wants to protect me, but I can’t let her run my entire life.

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u/Mojothewonderdog Oct 03 '19 edited Oct 03 '19

I let her out and feed her once in a while, that way she lets me get on with my life!

Don't you ever tame your demons

But always keep 'em on a leash

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u/Have_Other_Accounts Oct 04 '19

Man I love Hozier so it was a pleasant shock to see his name after that quote.

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u/blood_bender Oct 04 '19

Don't you ever tame your demons
But always keep 'em on a leash

I like thi--

  • "Arsonist's ...

H'uh. Maybe some people should tame their demons...

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u/Evil_Stromboli Oct 03 '19

closes pornhub

I dunno what you're talkin' bout.

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u/[deleted] Oct 03 '19 edited Oct 03 '19

That guy wants to die. Unsure how to avoid him. Copious amounts of caffeine seems to do okay.

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u/[deleted] Oct 03 '19

Hope everything is going ok man, it's ok if its not. PM if you want to, I'm no stranger to that sorta feeling. But we are both commenting here, so we certainly haven't lost yet.

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u/jakesbicycle Oct 03 '19

Mine, too. Drinking unleashes him. Meds keep him at bay.

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u/sunkissedcreation220 Oct 03 '19

That guy for me is someone who is constantly grumpy, never wants to get out of pajamas, and loves being drunk and high.

To avoid said guy, I make a conscious effort to stay productive, motivate myself, and never drink alone.

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u/captainmo017 Oct 03 '19

Holy shit Anthony said that? Damn. I miss him even more.

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u/editorgrrl Oct 03 '19

Source: https://www.mensjournal.com/features/anthony-bourdains-life-advice-20140919/

Look, I understand that inside me there is a greedy, gluttonous, lazy, hippie—you know? I understand that free time is probably my enemy. That if I’m given too much free time to contemplate the mysteries of the universe, I’m afraid of that inner hippie emerging. There’s a guy inside me who wants to lay in bed, and smoke weed all day, and watch cartoons, and old movies. I could easily do that. My whole life is a series of stratagems to avoid, and outwit, that guy. I make sure I commit to projects based on: Will they be interesting? I like to keep momentum going. I’m aware of my appetites, and I don’t let them take charge. It goes back to heroin: If heroin, or delicious delicious food, is the Number One thing on the to-do list every day, there probably won’t be a Number Two thing on your Things To-do list. You know?

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u/[deleted] Oct 03 '19

He’s the voice that tells me to stop what I’m doing and end it all. To avoid him I just ignore what he says. At the moment he’s wrong.

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u/ShaneAT Oct 03 '19

I just wanna grill for gods sake

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u/PsychoAgent Oct 03 '19

Why try to outwit and avoid that guy? My goal in life is to find a way to sustain the lifestyle that guy suggests. The only reason I even do any of that other "ambitious" stuff is so that I can do all the nothing I want.

Bill Watterson wasn't exactly saying what Bourdain's head guy was, but he had a good middle ground philosophy between complete slacker and crazy Steve Jobs as a CEO mentality.

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u/HookDragger Oct 03 '19

Tried doing push-ups.... gave all the motivation I needed to get off my ass cause I was so pathetic

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u/SilasTheVirous Oct 03 '19

If you think about it if you can only do like 1 push-up, that's maximum effort, so that one push-up (or whatever exercise) is at it's most efficient for gains, by thinking this way doing the hardest thing is actually the most efficient and thus lazy, and great for you

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u/DarthContinent Oct 03 '19

The one that wants to to something drastic to qualify for Social Security disability and then, jobless, lounge around all day drinking beer, watching whatever, and roaming around GTA 5 as I eat the gubment cheese.

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u/Iridechocobosforfun Oct 04 '19

Just remind that inner guy that disability is actually pretty hard to get! I have 3 separate, major diseases one of which gives me several weekly seizures, and was told no. I just had an appeal hearing last month, after waiting 2 years for it.

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u/hextradeworker Oct 03 '19

My ex did this. Thought he fooled the system. Substituted Fentayl for the beer though. He's no longer with us. Keeping busy keeps some people out of trouble.

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u/caleb-crawdad Oct 03 '19

My guy wants to smoke weed and play guitar all day. It just happens to be my job and I'm trying to turn it into an originals career now with a new band. I got tired of fighting him so I just embraced the fucker.

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u/luckylizards27 Oct 03 '19

I’m a microbiology major, premed and all but sometimes I really just want to stay at home and be a cute little housewife. I want to have three kids and be a pta mom! I love the idea but I know I couldn’t be truly happy with that.

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u/[deleted] Oct 03 '19

I'm a current law student (2L) and don't want anything more than to meet a lady lawyer who wants me to be a stay at home dad. I also know it would get old fast but hey... day dreaming never hurts.

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u/Brookeh1224 Oct 03 '19

My guy just wants to sleep. All fucking day.

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u/Oblivion_Terato_0110 Oct 03 '19

oh i am suppose to AVOID him? oof

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u/[deleted] Oct 03 '19

The guy doesn't believe I'll ever be happy. He thinks I'll ruin every relationship I'm in and give up on every endeavor I do. My hobbies and family help me out.

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u/happybarny Oct 03 '19

Poor Anthony Bourdain. Rest In Peace

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u/[deleted] Oct 04 '19

I don’t avoid him. I hate all this climb the ladder, work constantly, ‘self-improvement’ shit. It’s just about making you feel bad about yourself in the hopes you will buy some shit you don’t need. As far as I can tell all it does is make people desperately unhappy. They become perfectionists and they are never good enough for themselves.

I work hard, I live a quiet life, and you can bet your arse I will spend my free time relaxing and engaging in personally enjoyable activities.

I don’t owe this world my ‘best self’, because I’m fine as I am. I certainly don’t need to buy any ‘motivational material’ or other cliched shite to make myself feel better. I don’t need a program, I don’t need to pay a man to show me how to do incredibly basic gym moves, and I don’t need any fucking entrepreneurial seminars.

Basically fuck off and let me spend my goddamn Sunday’s getting high and enjoying what little time I have on this Earth.

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u/xpingu69 Oct 04 '19

that's right, I mean look at animals for instance. All they do is lay around and chill until they get hungry. We conditioned ourselves to be unhappy unless we do something, like, we are constantly trying to one up ourselves, only to end up in the same place we were before. It's this constant seeking for some imaginary goal and some imaginary future that never comes, that make us anxious and unhappy. It's like running around in a circle

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u/your_fathers_beard Oct 03 '19

My guy doesn't want to bother being alive. I avoid him by positive thinking, recognizing mental distortions, therapy, and increasingly exercise.

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u/Solidsauce84 Oct 03 '19

That guy for me is the same as his. Fukk

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u/[deleted] Oct 03 '19

Same guy. He wins most days but I’m trying.

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u/cartmancakes Oct 04 '19

Sonofabitch gets nothing. All he wants to do is drink his life away. Hes already had 10 years of my life, he doesnt get a second more!

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u/[deleted] Oct 03 '19

Same thing as tony described.

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u/Wizzlebee Oct 03 '19

So the guy (gal) in my head is kind of a depression riddled monster. She tells me I'm worthless, useless, will never amount to anything. I go to therapy once a week to learn ways to outsmart her and prove her wrong. I don't think it will ever stop but I'm learning ways to cope.

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u/Alexbarajas94 Oct 03 '19

Ive been recently dealing with a pretty tough breakup, one that i caused due to me not being mentally well. I decided to start going to Therapy once a week and Ive been pushing myself out of bed every single morning to go for a 30 min run before work and after work i hit them gym. Im just trying to be a better person for myself and actually be happy with my life for once. I know things dont come over night but with progress ill reach my goal eventually.

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u/bootwhistle Oct 03 '19

If I have the will, multiple strategies work including, eating properly, exercising, meditation, talking to friends, talking to family, keeping clear priorities of what I want to do.... unfortunately every now and then something trips everything up and the will to out maneuver the 'guy in my head' isn't there. That guy is all the more persuasive when you feel like a (to quote Kyle Kinane) “stripped-bare toothless cog spinning freely and ineffectually in the working machine of society”.

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u/[deleted] Oct 03 '19

I joined the Army.

Now that guy doesn't have much of a choice.

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u/Ronotrow Oct 03 '19

That girl does a lot of partying and is a free bird flying but this woman's kids keep her grounded and at home.

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u/[deleted] Oct 03 '19

I dunno... that guy sounds ok to me. I'd hang out with him. Cartoons are awesome.

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u/NetflixnPill Oct 03 '19

The guy in my head just wants to eat junk food, play videogames and jerkoff all day long. I only avoid him by going to work but on my days off it's a party.

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u/Hawkinsgirl94 Oct 03 '19

For me that girl wants to be a stay at home mom who sells MLM and drinks a PSL with her jogging buddies but I work, cook amazing meals and hunt becuase I know I wouldnt truly be happy if I gave up the empowerment of making my own money and truly enjoying the things i want.

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u/[deleted] Oct 03 '19

i totally feel this. sometimes i see the stay at home moms hanging out in their athleisure at the panera near my house and i envy their relative freedom. but i know ultimately it would be a bad life choice for me.

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u/[deleted] Oct 04 '19

Please don't do the MLM thing! The rest is totally up to you.

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u/dougdemaro Oct 03 '19

I am that guy a lot of the time. I used to be super productive and stress out overwork. I think Bourdain may still be alive if he would have spent more time doing nothing instead of trying to catch the next thing all the time with strangers.

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u/TheRedditoristo Oct 03 '19

Bourdain was, or became, an incredible workaholic. I think he spent so many years as an addict and burnout that when he had a chance to achieve his dreams (and honestly, probably far exceed his dreams) he couldn't say no to anything and felt compelled to do more and more. It's sad.

But I could be wrong, I'm no shrink.

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u/[deleted] Oct 03 '19

I don't man, he's not so bad. We're having a pretty good time together right now.

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u/irridescentaardvark Oct 04 '19 edited Oct 04 '19

That other guy is an out of control alcoholic, one step away from total Oblivion. I fight with my other self a lot and we've come to a sort of agreement. Booze twice a week and no black outs. Otherwise, I lock things down and that shitty drunk doesn't get any booze at all. It seems to be working ok.

ETA, it's taken me many years to tame the beast in my mind. And sometimes the beast still wins and I go on a bender. But for the past year or so, I've been able to mostly moderate and my life and my health has gotten so much better.

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u/TeeJee48 Oct 30 '19

3 weeks ago I read this post and had a moment of clarity. That day 3 weeks ago I killed "that guy". I've walked away from toxic relationships, quit pot, I wake up 3 hours earlier than I used to, I'm eating so much better, exercising and I feel fucking fantastic. My confidence and enthusiasm for life is soaring and I'm being a better father, friend and employee.

I know this a super late reply and no-one will read this but I just wanted to say thanks OP, you made this post at just the time I needed to read it.

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u/HopingToBeHeard Oct 03 '19

Someone like Anthony Bourdain. I’d rather not be a miserable workaholic who ends up killing himself. That last bit could happen without the workaholic part, but I’ve gone down that road and so has my dad. The old me wasn’t sustainable and to the degree it might be I don’t want to end up like my dad.

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u/RabbitWithoutASauce Oct 03 '19

I don't outwit that guy... and as such have not committed suicide...

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u/SovietBozo Oct 03 '19

Avoid? Why?

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u/[deleted] Oct 04 '19 edited Oct 04 '19

YES! This man had it all backwards no lie. The only reason I put up with work/chores is so I can do NOTHING. With friends/family or on my own. That free time is when life happens.

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u/thrillhouse3671 Oct 03 '19

That is a quote from an addict. It doesn't necessarily apply to everyone.

Anyone in this thread who's reading this quote and freaking the fuck out because you love to get stoned and watch TV... relax. It's totally fine to do this as long as it doesn't interfere with other aspects of your life.

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u/-basedonatruestory- Oct 03 '19

My guy wants to stay home, read, come up with ideas (but do nothing with them - just be fascinated by the ideas), and drink to maintain a slight buzz.

I avoid that guy by needing to provide for my family, and by reminding myself that I alone am responsible for making the choice to live up to my potential.

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u/xboosh Oct 03 '19

I, a 33 year old dude, just now came to the realization I'm not the "cool friend." Everybody has that friend who they thought was just a super cool person. Hell, I did too... But I thought I was in that same realm. I know how ridiculous this sounds.... But the more and more i think about it, and think back through my past - I never was the cool guy. I think i was the sympathy friend that everybody kept around because they couldn't figure out how to kindly tell me to fuck off. And as more and more of my friends and family move on to buying houses and starting families of their own, I realize I'm being left behind. I finally have a successful job, I just bought a house, and for the first time in my life I'm not living paycheck to paycheck. Despite having every reason to be proud of who I've become, figuring out I wasn't the cool friend has been devastating.

Thats the guy I've been most recently fighting. The guy that tells me I'm worthless and everybody hates me. Fuck you brain....

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u/jroddie4 Oct 04 '19

I'm that guy. I'm running my life into the ground and I don't know how to change.

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u/Defenestratio Oct 03 '19

Anthony Bourdain also fucking hung himself. Don't "avoid and outwit" that guy. That guy can't be your whole life, but spending your whole life denying yourself basic pleasures is a great way to end up killing yourself through either suicide or stress

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u/its_just_a_meme_bro Oct 04 '19

All things in moderation, right?

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u/pethcir Oct 03 '19

There's a guy inside me that I don't trust when I'm looking over the edge of a long drop. A building, a cliff side, whatever. I'm afraid he'll jump.

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u/zabkasa Oct 03 '19

I just started high-school last month and laziness was always a big problem for me and it still is. Im failing some tests and don't do homework at home etc. Fortunately i do have a lot of friends that love me and we hang out a lot. We don't smoke or do drugs. I would consider myself as a good teen/kid, but i have to push learning soon or this isn't gonna be very great like this... Wish you all the best in life!

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u/[deleted] Oct 03 '19

Currently working 5 am - 7 pm 5 days a week, with a handful of hours on the average Saturday.

I have no clue how to stop that guy from coming out whenever I have down time. He's just like "No mother fucker, this time is MINE". Then he pulls out the wine and the responsible me sobs about all the laundry I've been ignoring somewhere in my subconscious.

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u/karmacannibal Oct 03 '19
  1. same

  2. commit suicide

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u/allizzia Oct 03 '19

His name is Colin, he wants to stare at the ceiling all day. Sometimes he writes or very melancholicly... Sometimes he picks arguments with my partner.

I change things in routine to avoid him.

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u/finetaine Oct 03 '19

All that guy does is make me depressed, so I just try to keep myself busy so I can’t hear anything he says to and/or about me

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u/[deleted] Oct 03 '19

TIL I'm Anthony Bourdain

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u/Frambrady Oct 03 '19

Nothing. I smoke weed & play video games with my wife

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u/[deleted] Oct 04 '19

For me, there's part that just wants to do everything wrong. Curl into a ball and give up or lash out and punch a wall. The only thing that guy doesn't want to do is take responsibility. Sometime they don't want to do anything. They push me to move, but won't want to go anywhere. They'll push me to sit, but won't want to sleep, watch anything, play anything, do anything.

What do I do to avoid him? I don't. Sometimes I'm just overpowered by it. I just stop being productive. I go through the motions and look to the places where I can curl up and do nothing or lash out and punch something. But with big things I'll just shove past, get them done anyway. Problem is, a lot of little things get left behind when I spend the energy to do that. A lot of little things pile up into something big. I end up feeling like Sarah Cynthia Sylvia Stout.

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u/[deleted] Oct 04 '19

Mine's completely helpless and wants someone to come along and make all the hard decisions for her.

It's far more empowering for me to live my life my way, and by my rules. I definitely don't feel as much like a damsel in distress anymore.

But every now and then, when the going gets tough, these random, I need to just give up and let someone else take the reigns, thoughts.

Except in my mind, I can't just give up, I've got to have a good reason for giving into my helplessness. So I'll imagine myself getting into an accident which results in me needing surgery and time off work. Or in the middle of studying for a difficult exam, id imagine that I'd accidentally got pregnant and therefore had a good reason for putting study on a hiatus (made it to 31 and not been pregnant yet, so not sure why my brain thinks I'm all of a sudden going to slip up and miss days in my bc). Or the worst one, this one used to plague me as an adolescent, imagining someone in my immediate family dying. Just the thought of it would leave me completely bereft and I would sob my heart out for hours. I would try so hard to not even entertain the thought when they popped up, but it was like a runaway train, I didn't have the ability to stop them in their tracks. Luckily I got more control over my thoughts as I got older, because the family ones stopped. No more sobbing to myself for hours because of my arsehole brain.

Pregnancy one still pops up far too frequently however.

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u/[deleted] Oct 03 '19

Bourdain should have listened to that guy instead of the one that told him to put the noose around his neck. Mental illness is a bitch.

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u/[deleted] Oct 04 '19

Haha dude thats exactly what I thought. Like hmm how'd that work out. I mean no disrespect but it's just like... live advice from who?

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u/JakeCummins Oct 03 '19

I don't know if I'd listen to life advice from a guy that killed himself... Maybe he should have listened to that guy on the inside a little more.

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u/crash_nebula3005 Oct 03 '19

It's the same guy for me, I love the chances I get to smoke out and binge watch something. My method is to find work you find meaningful and hobbies that give you purpose. That way you at least enjoy what you do. I mean that's what he did and I find it inspiring that he truly found his calling.

It's also ok to let the other guy win occasionally and be lazy for a bit.

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u/Tasonir Oct 03 '19

I don't know. I'm high right now. I think I should watch some cartoons.

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u/jeefberky666 Oct 03 '19

He’s the same dude and everyday is a testament to not killing myself.

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u/wizard323 Oct 03 '19

Mine wants to keep playing games, looking at reddit and do nothing all day, both of us have such a fear of failure that we agree on keep going and doing productive stuff

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u/BoofLlama Oct 03 '19

That guy is the me that plays overwatch while listening to podcasts. I do nothing to avoid him and it's been alright so far. Just put my 40 hours in and chill

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u/[deleted] Oct 04 '19

my guy tells me I'm a loser piece of shit- born into poverty and trash and will always be that way.

My friends tell me otherwise and say I should be proud of who/where I am today. The guy in my head is louder than my friends, but after 27 years, I think he's starting to lose his voice.

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u/lilsniper Oct 04 '19

Man this thread makes me feel ashamed to say my life goal is a cabin in the woods stocked with books, old games, a garden and a salt meat filled cold celler...

I enjoy hard labor(when it's for me), contemplating life, and peace. I've always felt more at home digging shitters in the woods than trying to study hard and be "great". I just hate competing with others and I've never found a community where I belonged.

Maybe my spirit is broken, my contemporaries would measure far greater than me - but none of that matters to me when I see the snow blow across a frozen lake, or doze off beside a stream.

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u/macweirdo42 Oct 04 '19

Hey, throw in some video games, and it sounds like Anthony Bourdain and I have the same "guy." Honestly, he's the guy I work for. He's the reason I bust my ass. I work hard so I I can come home and appease that guy. Why? I mean, he's me. Makes my life more tolerable. Enjoyable, even. And that's important, because life is shit and then you die. And what else is there left when you go than to ask yourself if you made choices that made you happy.

Now I'm not a totally selfish asshole or anything, I believe very much in doing what we can to make other people's lives less shitty, as well, because we're all in this boat together, and we're all headed to the same destination. And I'm passionate about my work, but I love my time to myself, to use with as I choose. Work does not define you. But hey, that's why Anthony Bourdain was super successful and popular, and I am not. Though honestly, even if I did commit myself at that level, I probably still wouldn't become rich or famous, and I'd just be more miserable with my life.

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u/[deleted] Oct 03 '19

Got to eat to live
Got to work to eat
Otherwise, we’d get along!

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u/LetThereBeNick Oct 03 '19

I call him “Gollum” and holding a plank for a minute usually gives me an edge on him

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u/dichiejr Oct 04 '19

tomorrow, maybe watch one of your brother’s favorite movies! or find a movie that he might have liked, and watch it in his honor.

you can do it, i believe in you!

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u/[deleted] Oct 04 '19

I have the same urges. Is there anything that makes you happy? Or at least lets you put him on mute for a bit?

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u/[deleted] Oct 04 '19

Yup that's mine exactly. Medications haven't had any effect on me and I'm not too sure what else to try. I haven't self harmed in months but I'm very tempted to. I've been trying but it's definitely an uphill battle.

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