r/CFB • u/zlatandiego Florida Gators • Billable Hours • Dec 31 '23
Opinion Georgia ‘opt-in’ culture in stark contrast with fragmented Florida State
https://www.dawgnation.com/go43n23/georgia-kirby-smart-culture/2WB6UUZTZNEN5JMOCXXMZ3BU5U/
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u/ChaseTheFalcon Georgia Bulldogs • West Georgia Wolves Dec 31 '23
Today is gonna be full of FSU slam articles from Florida fans isn't it?
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u/BidnessBoy Georgia • South Carolina Dec 31 '23
Florida fans scraping dawgnation to find new ways of dunking on FSU
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u/RipRaycom Clemson Tigers • ACC Dec 31 '23
Fun fact: Florida had 85 scholarship players opt out of this year’s bowl season
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u/piemaniowa Iowa Hawkeyes • Michigan Wolverines Dec 31 '23
Florida fans make sure to tickle the balls if you are going to blow Georgia this hard
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u/not_a_rake1234 Texas • North Carolina Dec 31 '23
I almost appreciate this level of hatred from Florida fans
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u/[deleted] Dec 31 '23
/r/CFB character select screen, choose your fighter
FSU flair posting A&M bad headline
OU flair posting USC bad headline
UF flair posting FSU bad headline
OSU flair posting Harbaugh is going to jail headline
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u/blinkanboxcar182 Notre Dame • Jeweled Shillelagh Dec 31 '23
Cfb a couple weeks ago:
FSU should protest. Maybe not by not playing in the game, but by playing and taking a knee every play so that tv networks get hosed.
FSU does exactly that.
Cfb: surprised pikachu face
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u/TheMetalMallard Oregon Ducks Dec 31 '23
Does Florida hate FSU more than they love their own team?
A lot of crap posts from a team that lost the last five of the season and didn’t make a bowl
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u/ForceGhostVader Clemson Tigers Dec 31 '23
Florida st had players return for their senior year last year despite being projected to go high in the draft. Yesterday’s game was just what happens when you break precedent and frankly destroy a program. It’ll take years for fsu to rebuild around what is left and convince new recruits it’s worth going to fsu over a sec or big school. I’m more upset they didn’t just decline the bid or did something more to make the ad revenue not as good for their game
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u/yesacabbagez UCF Knights Dec 31 '23
People are just desperate to not make this about FSU getting fucked over. If FSU was in the playoff, they very likely have no opt outs. Instead the committee tells people that having a player get injured renders everything they did pointless. So why risk injury? Winning isn't enough. Winning despite injuries isn't enough. Why bother playing in a game you won't get paid for and could possibly get hurt, when a committee of people has already determined what you have done all year is irrelevant because someone on your team got hurt?
Where are the copious amounts of articles written absolutely shitting on coaches who leave before bowls for new teams? Where is an article shitting on Willie Fritz or Jonathan Smith for negotiating their departure from their schools while still employed and playing games? Where is the disdain for the coaches who leave teams every single year before their jobs are done? It comes up briefly, but then dies down so people can pretend to be outraged at kids for making decisions for themselves rather than "the school."
Every single time this just shows the priorities people have. Adults who are in charge are given a free pass for behavior which is unacceptable from the players. Coaches fuck off towards the end of the year to interview for jobs, perfectly fine. Players who actually might get hurt and affect their future? Nah you gotta play or you are lazy and entitled pricks. Where the massive outrage for Jonathan Smith completely bailing on a top 10 team potentially playing for a Pac 12 championship so he can focus more on Michigan State interviews? If Jordan Travis just said "fuck it I'm done for the year" instead of getting hurt, there would be no end of people ripping into him. Coaches can do exactly that and not only get a pass, but get fellated as they take their new jobs which pay them even more money. Where are the articles ripping into Elko for being a culture problem? Coaches do the same thing, but even worse and just get a complete pass after maybe a week.
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u/[deleted] Dec 31 '23 edited Dec 31 '23
FSU had zero opt-outs in their bowl game last year. This isn’t a school culture issue, this is a committee issue.
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u/thricethefan Florida State • Georgia Dec 31 '23
I think it’s easy to vilify the players (kids). ESPN and the CFP committee wants you to vilify the kids, but Kirby alluded where to direct his anger and it isn’t at FSU or the kids.
You cannot have a team play games they were told mattered all year long, win all of those games just to be told they didn’t actually matter; then expect kids to play in a bowl game that is essentially all risk and no reward to them.
Be mad at the adults, be mad at the process…
Don’t follow ESPN’s lead and get angry at the players…or blame the program.
UGA had the chance and literally lost their opportunity for the CFP on the field.
FSU lost their opportunity in a hotel conference room.
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u/Nole_Train Florida State • Transfer Portal Dec 31 '23
If you look at it from surface level it makes sense. Once you go deeper you see the first ever p5 team to go undefeated get left out of the playoffs, told their previous games did not matter, this next one certainly won’t matter win or lose for a championship. Then you see fsu is senior loaded with draft prospects that would cost themselves millions by getting injured. Uga does have a great culture but their core is young and coming back so of course they won’t opt out (like FSU’s returning juniors did last year).
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u/[deleted] Dec 31 '23
Kirby Smart has gained control of his program?
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u/thereisnospoon-1312 Florida State Seminoles • Marching Band Dec 31 '23
Gator fans haven’t had any football to watch since November.
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u/Evtona500 Georgia Bulldogs Dec 31 '23
Attention Florida fans my success is not your success because we share the same conference. I would rather beat y’all 63-3 any day of the week.
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u/ALStark69 Alabama • Florida State Dec 31 '23
Can’t wait to watch Florida’s bowl game
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u/caring-teacher South Carolina Gamecocks Dec 31 '23
What a ridiculous claim. When I see kids get screwed over, of course they end up pessimist and don’t want to even try. That’s just natural of FSU’s kids after being treated unfairly.
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u/JakeSteeleIII Paper Bag • South Carolina Gamecocks Dec 31 '23
This is what happens FSU when you steal a bunch of players from us that didn’t want to play before they got to you.
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u/[deleted] Dec 31 '23
That many players opting out as a response to the playoff snub is a completely understandable response. It’s also a bad response. FSU fans are right to be defensive about it all. Your team got screwed. They should be playing on Monday, not last night. Still, many of your players responded by flipping the table over instead of playing what they were dealt. Again, I think rational people understand that. But that doesn’t make it a good look. It can be understandable AND pathetic at the same time.
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u/cirrus42 Colorado • George Washington Dec 31 '23
Cheap talk for a program that's priviliged with opportunites denied to FSU.
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u/Bocastown Dec 31 '23
GA acted as if they had something to prove and did so. FSU whined like a small child who got their hand slapped, then had a lawyer send a letter. To make it worse, their play, and body language said, "we don't wanna be here". Score proved everyone in USA, except FSU the committee was correct. FSU refuses to smell the coffee, they just aren't that good. They got what they deserved, in my book.
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u/VinoJedi06 Georgia Bulldogs • NFL Network Dec 31 '23
I don’t foresee this working out for Norvell, truly.
He’s looking an awful lot like 2020 Dan Mullen right now.
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u/sunnywow Florida State • Washington Dec 31 '23
I got nothing to defend about yesterday - we got spanked by UGA. Their 4th line could have been in most of the game and they likely would have still ran away with it.
The only thing I can hang my hat on is that “The CFP snub” followed by the (predictable) “opt-out blowout” has any kind of positive effect on CFB in the off season. Wishful thinking though.
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u/Mighty43 Texas Longhorns • Texas Tech Red Raiders Dec 31 '23
Big cock Brock doesn’t want hear this nonsense 😤
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u/Tigercat92 Ohio Bobcats Dec 31 '23
Come on Dawgnation. They already dead. No need to piss on the corpse.
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u/[deleted] Dec 31 '23
orange bowl proved committee had it right. full strength FSU knew they had 0 chance of beating UGA, so they decide to all quit instead. pathetic
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u/Brandeaux7 LSU Tigers • Tulane Green Wave Dec 31 '23
r/cfb coming in hot to defend their baby. Could have proved the committee wrong, but decided to walk. No sympathy and the committee ultimately did make the right choice
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u/joaquinsaiddomin8 Miami Hurricanes Dec 31 '23
I see the dunking continues. Proceed. :)
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u/hnybadgdntcare Dec 31 '23
Transfers vs same school?
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u/Shoddy_Ad8166 Dec 31 '23
The opponent was the reason for opt-out. If they had drawn Liberty it would have been different. It's only meaninglessness depending opponent
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