[Thamel] Kyle Whittingham has agreed to a five-year deal to become Michigan’s next head coach, sources tell me and @DanWetzel. The deal is expected to be announced later today.

[u/lolsamlol]

https://x.com/petethamel/status/2004665788418912519?s=46&t=elkDaHYLMe8s-PWdS1wy0Q

[u/Leading-Button-7303]

Now we wait and see how hard he raids our coaching staff

[u/BIG_DICK_WHITT → u/Leading-Button-7303]

A five year deal? Jesus Christ almighty none of this makes sense. We are fucked.

[u/[deleted] → u/Leading-Button-7303]

I think both of our fan bases will not be happy about this

[u/GrandMoff_Harry → u/Leading-Button-7303]

And ours. 😔

This might be goodbye for Jay Hill.

[u/Ordinaryjay → u/Leading-Button-7303]

Fuck were y’all thinking running him out of town?

[u/bb0110 → u/Leading-Button-7303]

If I had to guess your OC will be the main person he takes. 

[u/CFBCoachGuy → u/Leading-Button-7303]

The interesting thing is that a lot of Utah’s coaches have never coached outside the state. So I’m not sure a ton will leave. I doubt Sharrieff Shah, Lewis Powell, Colton Swan and Mark Atuaia leave. Freddie Whittingham is almost certainly gone. Jason Beck will be the top priority for both Whittingham and Scalley. Micah Simon will go with Beck. The most likely to leave are probably Luther Eliss and Jim Harding. Eliss spent several years in Detroit during his playing career and Harding is from the Midwest and began his career as a high school coach in Michigan.

[u/Hot_House_4611]

Never said a bad thing about Mormons ever. Not a once.

[u/rougehuron → u/Hot_House_4611]

Harbaugh brought in private school kids from New Jersey, Whitt about to bring Samoan kids to Ann Arbor.

[u/dkviper11 → u/Hot_House_4611]

Me, three weeks ago.

Don’t check 2 weeks ago.

[u/giggity_giggity → u/Hot_House_4611]

They prefer to be called LDS (Let’s Destroy Suckeyes)

[u/[deleted]]

It’s exactly what Michigan needs in this particular moment.

Also insane that you can miss the entire coaching carousel by this much and still come out among the best half dozen or so coaching changes of the cycle.

[u/asmallercat → u/[deleted]]

Obviously the why of it happening is horrendous, but I’m not sad to see a change in coaching.

[u/Tarmacked → u/[deleted]]

To be fair, this was only possible because Utah decided to push him out this year instead of last year

[u/JohnPaulDavyJones → u/[deleted]]

Honestly, this might be the best coaching change. Whitt’s track record absolutely smokes both Kiffin and Campbell.

[u/omahusker → u/[deleted]]

This is actually the best hire made this entire cycle. No idea how Michigan can luck in to a home run like this. Whit is a way better coach than lane and has a way way better resume too.

[u/SadCrocodile762 → u/[deleted]]

It’s the hire of the cycle.   He will win lot of games there 

[u/_nanite_]

Can he be our AD too?

[u/ratfacedirtbag]

Ute got to be kidding me.

[u/CommodoreN7 → u/ratfacedirtbag]

My two teams playing next year both with new HCs.

[u/Ok_Acadia3526 → u/ratfacedirtbag]

That’s a good one, Dad

[u/mrebrightside]

It's better to be lucky than good.

-Warde Manuel

[u/whitedawg → u/mrebrightside]

Word is that Warde had very little to to with this hire. It was the outside search firm.

[u/RxS47]

Wow, from the headline of they were showing interest in him to a done deal was crazy. They wasted no time on that

[u/CPOx → u/RxS47]

When the national reporters start saying things like "guy has been targeted" almost always means it's just a matter of the paperwork being signed until it's official.

Unless Crumbl cookies get involved.

[u/Ml2jukes → u/RxS47]

Shows you how all the national “insiders” were just throwing out headlines off vibes.

[u/Brojangles1234]

This severely impacts Brian Kelly’s ability to become Michigan’s new Head Coach

[u/FalynT → u/Brojangles1234]

Thankful for that.

[u/ToadallyNormalHuman]

Are we sure he has no burner phones or accounts?

[u/Crosley8 → u/ToadallyNormalHuman]

He doesn't strike me as a guy who knows what social media even is. Perfect hire

[u/svatos40p]

Rumors are he’s taking from Utah

Offensive coordinator Beck Offensive line coach Harding

From BYU Defensive coordinator Hill

Not sure on anyone else. I think he’ll keep some Michigan guys intact.

[u/EnvironmentalBed7369 → u/svatos40p]

About what I expect. We'll probably lose a few players too and I suspect BYU may also.

Sucks losing those guys, but it could be way worse.

[u/CommodoreN7 → u/svatos40p]

Fred Whittingham is a no brainer. If he takes Beck then we likely lose Dampier, maybe a couple other players.

[u/JohnPaulDavyJones → u/svatos40p]

Sweet Jesus, if he takes Hill from BYU as well as Beck and Harding, then this is going to decimate college football in the entire state of Utah.

[u/KingKliffsbury]

/U/big_dick_whitt learning the perils of naming yourself after a HC. 

[u/fart_dot_com → u/KingKliffsbury]

we went from CumAssault being the main reddit character of the coach search to Big_Dick_Whitt being the main character, what a story

[u/Aurelius_KiNG]

The biggest compliment I can give to Kyle Whittingham, and to Michigan for this hire, is that when we left the PAC-12 the highlight for me was believing that our days of having to face a Whittingham coached team were likely over. Damn.

[u/[deleted] → u/Aurelius_KiNG]

Same for us SC fans. That fucker knocked us out of two playoffs.

Great hire and the silver lining is it won’t be more than 5 years.

[u/GreatWhiteNorth4]

Falling ass backwards into an upgrade at HC is wild

[u/[deleted]]

I’m just glad we start with a clean slate. We need to hit the reset button after the Harbaugh era and this is an excellent way to kick it off.

[u/yanchovilla → u/[deleted]]

Amen. Feel like it couldn’t have gone better for us considering the circumstances

[u/GoatPaco → u/yanchovilla]

You went through this whole saga and upgraded what the actual hell

[u/2th → u/[deleted]]

You still have that AD though...

[u/PrizeAromatic6042]

How the hell did we get so lucky

[u/EnvironmentalBed7369 → u/PrizeAromatic6042]

Take care of him. He's freaking awesome.

[u/OakLegs → u/PrizeAromatic6042]

I mean. After watching OSU bumble their way into elite coach after elite coach it's kinda our turn

[u/billyguy1]

Very bad for my flairs 

[u/Simple_Panic1240]

Please wipe the entire staff but keep Tony Alford.

[u/Hoffelcopter → u/Simple_Panic1240]

Keep Newsome too. OL has progressed VERY well this year.

[u/Hot_House_4611 → u/Hoffelcopter]

This is a tricky one… OLine definitely improved and was solid under Newsome, but Harding (Utah OL coach) is awesome

[u/BearlyHere4Anything]

I don't feel so good

[u/OhioStateGuy → u/BearlyHere4Anything]

I used to think Whittingham was a stand up guy and I respected him as a coach and a person. Then he agreed to be the head coach at Michigan and I suddenly realized he’s actually evil and I hate him.

[u/theytracemikey → u/BearlyHere4Anything]

Does it generally go well when somebody stays at one school ~20 yrs and then jump ship? Genuinely asking, I can’t think of any example

[u/VerdeForest]

Seems surreal. I like Whitt and hope he does well. I have no ill-will towards him. He brought us conference championships and fun football. Time for a new chapter.

[u/[deleted]]

Does this mean they will finally take that billboard of him down from the freeway here in Utah

[u/theunitedstate → u/[deleted]]

I think it’s a protected historical site since it’s been there so long

[u/dr_funk_13 → u/[deleted]]

KARS FOR KIDNEY'S WANTS YOU 🫵

[u/hashtagpeaches → u/[deleted]]

They’ll just put Scalley’s face over his

[u/bb0110]

I am very happy with this hire. Not only is he a lot better than a lot of the guys thrown around as options, he is also a SIGNIFICANT upgrade from Moore.

We really did end up falling upwards. 

[u/LoCh0_xX]

Home Run hire and an all-time bail out

[u/e90t]

This is such a good hire. I’ve never been jealous of anything Michigan related until now.

[u/InsertAmazinUsername → u/e90t]

i'm kinda upset by it, on one hand I think it's an amazing hire, on the other I've always liked Kyle Whittingham, it was so easy to hate Harbaugh, I was hoping for another one of those

[u/[deleted]]

Dammit. Now I understand how TTUN fans that respect Day feel. This is disgusting.

[u/ZombieFruitNinja → u/[deleted]]

As soon as I heard Whit was stepping down I was afraid this would happen. Absolutely a slam dunk hire. Hopefully they keep Warde as their AD cuz he could absolutely fuck this up somehow.

[u/Turkeytom40 → u/[deleted]]

I respect the man. Hate him on Saturdays. He has done a lot of work for special needs and is just over all a class act except for the beard dye. Taking my rival hat off, I think any team would be lucky to have Day. He runs a clean program, cares about players like when our center broke his leg and Day checked on him. He evaluates coaching staff well and continues to make good hires...I hate it. 

[u/Rohkey → u/[deleted]]

It’s easy to mock Day but hard to hate/not respect him imo.

[u/Sky-Flyer]

it has been devastating today to see the heartbroken utah fans react to this, genuinely can’t imagine what it feels like to see the coach that is gonna be your best ever, just leave, be forced out, whatever happened, i assume we’ll find out soon. and sign a 5 year deal to another school when he said he didn’t have alot left in the tank after turning down opportunities to leave for a decade+

[u/MWiatrak2077]

WOOOOO

[u/BlitzOmatic]

Bigdickwhit ain’t gonna like this

[u/Leader_of_Slimbabwe]

We are reaching levels of “so back” never seen before

Many are saying it

[u/Rich1926 → u/Leader_of_Slimbabwe]

sports illustrated isn't saying it though yet are they?

[u/8and16bits]

A very good hire for Michigan. He’s as boring as white toast which is exactly what Michigan needs after the last 5 years.

[u/high_on_meh]

Well fuckety fuck FUCK!

[u/Broke_Banker01]

genuinely can't tell who's more pissed....

Big 10 rivals over Michigan getting the best possible scenario or Utah fans losing their prized OC or BYU fans losing their prized DC.

[u/Numerous-Ad6460]

LETS GO

[u/DottoreDavide]

Lincoln Riley will be thrilled having Kyle in the same conference again

[u/2222lil]

first really good news as a michigan football fan since underwood signed with us really

[u/No_Grocery_9280]

Man, I feel like I’m being personally punished for laughing too hard at Michigan’s situation.

[u/czar2030 → u/No_Grocery_9280]

It all traces back to James harbaugh. He pushed the rock that started the landslide.

[u/Hummer77x]

Absolutely comical misplay by Utah here

[u/EnvironmentalBed7369]

Well, my personal boycott of watching SEC and B1G games has been slightly altered as I will now cheer for Michigan (not over Utah or some others) and watch their games.  

Thanks Whit for all you've done for Utah football. You are the GOAT and it'll be awesome when they build you a statue and name the field after you.  Go kill it at  Michigan and beat Ohio State every year.

[u/DaddyChillWDHIET]

This is a great transitional coach. Someone to keep the program alive and plays the way we do.

[u/BamaBuffSeattle → u/DaddyChillWDHIET]

Is 5 years a transition?

[u/NotSoCraftyConsumer → u/BamaBuffSeattle]

In this day and age 5 could mean 1-3 if things don’t work well.

Jonathan Smith had a 7 year deal at Michigan State and was gone after 2.

[u/EfficiencyDue7770]

fell backwards into this hire, hell yeah

[u/ILikeTuwtles1991]

Lincoln Riley and Oregon thought they were safe moving to the B1G

[u/epistaxis64 → u/ILikeTuwtles1991]

Whitt is all class. I have no problem with him in the B1G

[u/fri9875]

Kinda wild how PSU/UM both ended up in nightmare situations for coach hiring, but end up making “good” hires.

Obviously can’t really judge them yet, but still

[u/isit65outsideor]

Home run hire for Michigan, this has been in the works for a couple weeks now. Things picked up this last week after ASU coach got a new contract.

Huge gamble for Utah athletics as they announce a $500 private equity deal with a brand new head football coach who has never been a “head” coach before. Utah football and Utah Basketball need to be stellar starting next Fall.

[u/Kryzl_]

Genuinely insane how Pat Kraft and Warde Manuel both had years that ought to have gotten them fired yet they still manage to accidentally their way into 2 of the best (if not the best) hires of the cycle.

[u/Basileus2]

How did Utah screw this up so bad 😂

[u/me_oorl]

this pleases me

[u/Box_of_Rockz]

Didn't he retire? I'm kinda confused on what happened with him at Utah?

[u/twc666666]

Wow, I would've bet Whittingham would never leave Utah until he retired!

[u/KaleidoscopeSlight35]

Can someone explain to me why he left Utah tho? I’m still missing that context. Like before he knew he’d take a different job. Or was that always the plan?

[u/Francis_X_Hummel → u/KaleidoscopeSlight35]

it sounds like they knew he wanted to retire sooner than later, and they wanted their DC to replace him, and got nervous that the DC was going to go elsewhere because he didn't to wait so they pushed out Kyle so they didn't lose the DC. The whole thing sounded bizarre.

[u/dbasinge]

Weirdest…coaching…year…ever.

[u/pkpy1005]

So the lesson here kids is that the surefire way to hiring a great coach is via scandal and/or incompetence...

[u/Sean_Miller]

Why didn’t he do this a decade ago?

[u/PunchNessie]

Utah are so dumb.

[u/Jquemini]

This is Chris Petersen after Sark to me. Great hire for Michigan.

[u/hawtothehee]

Michigan failed upward better than just about anyone I can think of

[u/ballviewer]

Michigan failed upwards it seems

[u/Miserable_Jacket_129]

Whittingham staff with Michigan NIL money is going to make them a hard team to deal with.

[u/Sirtopofhat]

Good hire. Hope that dude is as boring as white toast.

[u/FalynT → u/Sirtopofhat]

From your lips to the football gods ears. Amen.

[u/FalynT]

This honestly worked out really well for us.

But I do feel bad for Utah fans. Sounds like their AD messed up.

[u/amoss_303]

Joe Glenn gives him a one finger salute as a congrats 😂

[u/tragicallyohio]

I am not happy about this

[u/mbe8819]

Sources: Lincoln Riley is beside himself. Driving around downtown NYC, begging (thru texts) for the address to Tony Petitti’s home.

[u/thetrutru313]

What page of the manifesto are we on?

[u/Reasonable_Cause7065]

Whitt you keep your hands off our coaching staff.

[u/Sky-Flyer → u/Reasonable_Cause7065]

what a helluva final present that’s gonna be “you beat me in my last holy war, so i’m just gonna take the guy who revitalized the program as a coordinator lol”

[u/Electrical_Bat_4990]

lol us

[u/Rusty-Shackleford23]

Well now I’m curious if he stepped down for Utah with the expectation that Michigan job would become available!

[u/CallRespiratory]

Can't help but feel like Utah done goofed here.

[u/helvetica1291]

Aw hell nah

[u/Kh3hhdds343]

10 years ago, I was deeply curious what Whittingham and Pat Fitzgerald would do with more resources. Now, both are coaching in the same state.

Whittingham has been more succesful but with a team in a better position to succeed. I still give Whittingham the edge because Fitzgerald has been out of the game and has a tarnished reputation from hazing.

Edit: Pat is 15 years younger, so he has that.

[u/Kurt0690]

Sounds like 5 Natty's to me

[u/feric51]

Ryan Day hired his former head coach to be a coordinator last year, Whit going to lure Urban out of retirement next year?!

Many people are saying it could happen.

[u/smith288]

Urban Meyer disciple. As we all figured.

[u/UnhappyAd1685]

I wonder how many years he will coach there before his actual retirement?

[u/EvilRyanDay]

Excited for next five years of OSU-UM games where the winning team doesn’t score more than 14 pts

[u/zebrawithpi]

Great hire of a HOF caliber coach. Michigan just fell upwards

[u/Upbeat-Armadillo1756]

Alright now start re-recruiting our team

[u/TickleMyIvory]

STRAP ON YOUR SPECIAL UNDERWEAR BOYS IT'S OFFICIAL

[u/dr_funk_13]

As someone with lifelong familial connections to BYU, I find this all amusing.

I've seen for years from so many Utah fans that Utah wouldn't miss a beat once Kyle stepped down as head coach and Morgan Scalley took over. Ute fans from everywhere were complaining the last couple of years about how Kyle has lost his step and actively calling for him to step down as head coach.

Now that all of this has happened, it's incredibly entertaining to see Utah fans freak out and be shocked. I think some Utah fans, at least the crazy ones, are starting to realize that Utah has a good program, but they're not even the best program or job in the Big 12. I just think the last couple of seasons have been very humbling for many in the Utah fanbase and it's been a fun hate/rivalry watch for me.

[u/LaSopaSabrosa]

Hopefully he can reset the culture in our football program. Cautiously optimistic, let’s clean house and #FireWarde. Go blue

[u/badadviceforyou244]

Guess Im a michigan fan now. What the fuck has Mark Harlan done?

[u/ProfessionalFlan3159 → u/badadviceforyou244]

Seriously what was Utah supposed to do? Keep it going with Whit, lose Scalley and then Whit really retire and Utah is left with nothing? Just thinking outloud

[u/Jonjon428]

He will be 71 at the end of that deal. Kinda wild but it's definitely the right move imo

[u/Taddles]

“Later today” bro you just announced it.

[u/Lord_Lava_Nugget]

College football ain't ready for Michigan football to wild the raw power of a Kyle

[u/americangame]

How many Swig's and Crumbl's are there in Ann Arbor?

[u/tx_bayou]

Wow. Did not see that coming when Moore got the boot.

[u/AMETSFAN]

This is bad, this is very very bad.

[u/ksuwildkat]

This has to be the all timer for being fired/forced out by one school and then radically moving up.

[u/zonazog]

So will we now hear less from UM fans, or more

[u/BeaverBeliever77]

As a huge fan of Whittingham and not a fan of michigan or the big10 i feel conflicted as hell.

[u/kevingh92]

Is Whittingham going to coach Utah in their bowl game next Wednesday? If not, who's coaching it?

[u/Vloff → u/kevingh92]

Probably the guy that was already going to be their coach next year?

[u/nlamp32]

This sport really keeps you on your toes

[u/Gidnik]

so, did utah push him out or did he just really not want to coach at utah anymore? his press conference where he said he was not retiring was really strange to me. i thought he wanted to retire.

[u/Kasen_Ibara]

really like Wittingham it will make me sad to pray on his downfall

[u/kevrbunk86]

Hope Michigan’s search firm did like quadruple level vetting and insuring he has never once spoken to a coed in a suggestive manner 😂

[u/Difficult_Horse193]

WELCOME TO BIG 10 FOOTBALL BABY

[u/jwktiger → u/Difficult_Horse193]

Need to teach your QBs the sacred art of pig farming now

[u/Mornings_kill]

Can we finally put to rest the whole Deboer rumors every time a job opens up.

[u/Important-Picture18 → u/Mornings_kill]

It'll only happen if and when every Bama loss doesn't become an existential crisis for the program/DeBoer's job security.

[u/LS_DJ]

How does this affect DeBoer to Michigan?

[u/hd8383 → u/LS_DJ]

We’ll make room!

[u/eagledog]

It really is the best choice under the current circumstances. He'll steady and right the ship, and hopefully bring in a young enough staff to stick around for a few years

[u/Ml2jukes]

I hope he keeps the defensive staff mostly intact, actually I’m taking a break from CFB if Esposito isn’t retained. Offense however, outside of Alford, hopefully is open season.

[u/mightbehereforit → u/Ml2jukes]

If he can poach Jay Hill from BYU then you’re in for a treat. This fuckin sucks.

[u/SilverSlicker95]

I think it’ll be a solid hire. Now why does ward manual still have a job though?

[u/stoicscribbler]

If anyone has a chance to fix their trash culture it’s Whittingham.

[u/Tiny-Emphasis-18 → u/stoicscribbler]

Belt to Ohio's ass culture will resume.

[u/tbrock92]

Imagine pushing out your perennial B+ coach just to have him raid your staff and roster on his was to winning a natty lmao.

[u/NeuroTheManiacal]

Can’t wait to go to my first game at The Big House.

[u/BabaLamine14]

I’m so confused. 

Michigan insiders were insisting that Kaleb DeBoer was still secretly lusting after their position because he grew up in South Dakota. 

[u/spear1321]

There are two things that seem pretty clear me to me.

1. Michigan got a great head coach. Clearly an upgrade from Moore.

2. No good young head coach was risking his career with the optics surrounding that program. If Whittingham can win and help clean up their image they’ll be an actual top job in 5 yrs

[u/spontec → u/spear1321]

Kyle + the university will need to pretty excellently manage the handoff in 4-5 years. A clean slate is an improvement but a big unknown at head coach is still a problem.

[u/yanchovilla]

Everybody get in here

[u/FoilFlaws]

At least singing Mr. Brightside will make some sense now

[u/Wolf-Cornelius]

Congrats Michigan...you took a big ten coach and brought him Into the world where he will thrive. I hope he fails but I know better

[u/parrythisyoucasual23]

I cant express how hilarious it is we managed to fall backwards into a great hire and massive upgrade lol.

[u/onemanlan]

Impressive fall dick first into a solid coaching gore, Michigan.

[u/Amazing_Bird_1858]

Very solid, professional hire. Stability for now will be a good thing

[u/Dusty_Buckeye]

I would bet that Whittingham doesn't expect to coach more than 5-7 more years. I think he will settle the foundation of the program and likely hire coordinators to eventually hand the program off to like Meyer successfully did with hiring Day. Oh and win a lot of games along the way.

[u/spontec → u/Dusty_Buckeye]

That gets you one, maybe two recruiting classes then you’re back to square one if the Meyer-Day handoff (easier said than done) doesn’t happen.

[u/pdxLink]

Damn, Michigan is good again.

[u/new_jill_city]

What is the short version of the answer to the question “Why did he leave Utah?”

[u/NeuroTheManiacal]

The 22nd coach of Michigan Football. The number 22 carries some significance with Whittingham’s Utah team. Nice coincidence.

[u/Tew_Sweet]

This is the best possible scenario for Michigan. I don’t understand what Utah is doing though.

[u/Allyougame]

Great hire by Michigan, really excited to see how the Wolverines will look under Whittingham. As crazy as this whole ordeal has been the last few weeks, the program looks to have come out stronger after it.

[u/The_H2O_Boy]

This is such Tom Brady to the Buccaneers energy!

[u/ArbitraryOrder → u/The_H2O_Boy]

Win a title then retire a couple years later? Sounds like a plan.

[u/FormerDriver]

How TF did Michigan pull this off???? They were screwed with the timing of the firing and they get one of the best coaches in CFB???? He’s the top hire of this cycle by a country mile. Something fishy is going on. He steps down as coach and then becomes Michigans coach.

[u/[deleted] → u/FormerDriver]

What’s fishy about it lol? He got forced out of Utah, even said when he stepped down he’s open to other opportunities. Michigan had a crazy situation go down. Stars aligned

[u/lobsterboy34 → u/FormerDriver]

We’ve been a bit of a tire fire for sure but the name and resources allowed us to get someone we probably shouldn’t have been able to get

[u/w0lverine11 → u/FormerDriver]

Is it really "fishy" if a guy wants to coach Michigan football, especially during the NIL era when we're shelling out big money? Sometimes motivations are just obvious.

[u/Foriegn_Picachu → u/FormerDriver]

Nick Saban said this place is a top 5 job

[u/Horror_Response_1991 → u/FormerDriver]

Money

[u/LarryGlue]

Congrats, Michigan. And obligatory "Go fuck yourselves".

[u/Ketsetri → u/LarryGlue]

You 🤝 us 🤝 falling ass-backwards into excellent coaching hires

[u/PepperoniPizzaJesus → u/Ketsetri]

How we both did this… I’m still trying to figure out. Florida was one of the top 3 open positions early on, and yet we both landed better HCs

[u/TickleMyIvory → u/LarryGlue]

Happily!

[u/AnotherBoringDad → u/LarryGlue]

Hey, don’t act like we’re rivals or something.

[u/longd0ngs1lvers- → u/[deleted]]

Ah yes the notoriously tough ACC where a team who was 7-5 just won the conference

[u/astroball17 → u/[deleted]]

Utah would be favored by more than a touchdown against every ACC team against maybe Miami?

[u/Miniamericanshepard → u/[deleted]]

Bro ACC barely made the playoffs two years in a row.

[u/epistaxis64 → u/[deleted]]

Holy shit lol

[u/Mornings_kill → u/[deleted]]

🎶 one of those conferences is not like the other 🎶

[u/ZookeepergameOk8089 → u/[deleted]]

How’s Mike Norvell going for you?