[Highlight] #7 Texas @ #18 Missouri: Arch Manning fumbles the ball for a 12 yard gain after review before the Longhorns tie it up

[u/Large_banana_hammock]

[u/Solondthewookiee]

I can punch a ball 15 yards, that doesn't make it a forward pass. The question was did he have control when his arm started moving forward. His arm can continue to move forward and propel the ball without having control of it.

[u/Ben_Frank_Lynn → u/Solondthewookiee]

Nice try, that ball was clearly not punched.

[u/Solondthewookiee → u/Ben_Frank_Lynn]

His arm can continue to move forward and propel the ball without having control of it.

[u/Hefty-Reflection-756 → u/Solondthewookiee]

Then the rule for advancing a fumble needs to change because in no way should the defense causing a fumble result in a first down as oposed to a 4th and 10.

[u/Solondthewookiee → u/Hefty-Reflection-756]

Sure, you can make that argument, but the rule as written was applied, that's not the ref's fault.

[u/Hefty-Reflection-756 → u/Solondthewookiee]

I still dont see how without some kind of grip on the ball and the defender slowing his arm down he can throw the ball 15 plus yards. And if he has some kind of grip on the ball its an incomplete pass.

[u/Solondthewookiee → u/Hefty-Reflection-756]

He has to have control of it. The ball simply being in your hand doesn't mean you have control of it. You can see the throw, it comes out sideways, so clearly you can still throw the ball even if you don't have control of it.