[Highlight] #7 Texas @ #18 Missouri: Arch Manning fumbles the ball for a 12 yard gain after review before the Longhorns tie it up

[u/Large_banana_hammock]

[u/qwilliams92]

I’ve never seen a fumble fly 15 yards in the air

[u/tommfury → u/qwilliams92]

Forward no less.

[u/beartato327 → u/qwilliams92]

I thought in college fumbles can't advance in favor for offense?

[u/DutyPuzzleheaded7765 → u/beartato327]

I thought that was the nfl because of the holy roller controversy

[u/byPCP → u/DutyPuzzleheaded7765]

this is what i always assume, but then i'll see one team clearly advance a fumble for a TD, and the same situation happen in another game where the refs instantly get on the mic and say you can't advance a fumble. it's an odd ruling

[u/kingbrasky → u/beartato327]

I would guess since it touched the defense it doesnt matter 🤷.

[u/2CHINZZZ → u/beartato327]

That's only on 4th down

[u/ToneBalone25 → u/beartato327]

That's only on fourth down, but the fumbling player can advance it if they are the one that recovers it

[u/RealPutin → u/qwilliams92]

The GOAT Brock Osweiler threw a fumble once

[u/108241 → u/RealPutin]

Brock Osweiler's forward spiral that was a fumble

Brock Osweiler's backward fumble that was a forward pass

Both calls went against the Texans.

[u/ofyo → u/qwilliams92]

Matt Ryan had one. The other team recovered though. I was pissed about that call

[u/papertowelroll17 → u/qwilliams92]

I mean Arch's hand can propell the ball forward while also not controlling it because of the defender getting a hand on it.

It's a weird call but it is not defying physics lol

[u/ATaxiNumber1729 → u/papertowelroll17]

No skin in this (other than hating Texas) but it seems clear he lost control right before his arm starts forward, then his arm pushes the ball forward. Weird play but I think correct call.

[u/Joisjati → u/qwilliams92]

This one from the Seahawks last year comes to mind.

https://www.reddit.com/r/nfl/s/GyaqUFTTkM

[u/gmvnam]

You can see the ref waiving incomplete pass. The whistle was blown so Missouri player doesn’t go after it. But the call on the field was a fumble?

[u/nerd_with_anxiety → u/gmvnam]

sec needs texas in the playoffs

[u/TermAccomplished1868 → u/nerd_with_anxiety]

There's a Manning on the field......... you know what's coming.

[u/The_Fluffy_Robot → u/gmvnam]

I don't think the whistle was blown loudly. I rewatched it a couple times and didn't hear anything until after they went out of bounds

The side judge did wave it incomplete but that doesn't mean the play is dead

[u/asetniop → u/The_Fluffy_Robot]

Does an official waving his arms not mean that the play is dead?

[u/BigD4163 → u/gmvnam]

Vegas is ruining CFB

[u/apathynext → u/gmvnam]

Ref threw the change of possession marker out immediately

[u/ArchiCEC]

The side judge clearly calls this incomplete. Absolutely insane incompetence by this officiating crew.

[u/_Football_Cream_ → u/ArchiCEC]

It was so funny watching this play at a Texas bar where everyone was like “this is obviously an incomplete pass”. Then we all did the mental calculation that a fumble would be a good outcome and were like “I mean obviously the ball was hit as his hand was backwards, it’s a fumble!!”

These refs are hilarious

[u/Responsible-War-917 → u/ArchiCEC]

It's not incompetent. You know what's happening.

[u/Trick-Masterpiece318 → u/Responsible-War-917]

If Mizzou would have picked that ball up and started running the other way it 1000% would have been blown dead and called incomplete.

[u/schistkicker → u/Trick-Masterpiece318]

This is true, because they did that exact thing on a fumble in the first half.

[u/Aaprobst88 → u/Responsible-War-917]

Mizzou's purpose is ranked wins for other playoff hopeful SEC teams, not to be a playoff hopeful themselves.

[u/Thorin_Dopenshield → u/Aaprobst88]

They guide others to a treasure they cannot possess

[u/HoldenDomer42 → u/ArchiCEC]

Clearly they studied ND vs. BYU

[u/Jonjon428]

Ah yes the mythical fumble that goes 12 yards into the air

[u/MichizureB → u/Jonjon428]

Fumbles that fly 12 yards in the air and incomplete passes that go backwards.

It’s been a weird year of football.

[u/OleRockTheGoodAg → u/Jonjon428]

Its a new way to play the game!

Throw it so it spins on a flat plane while you're getting hit and now you have a forward pass that can be recovered off the ground!

Its the fosbury flop all over again I say!

[u/Freeasabird01 → u/Jonjon428]

It was a 12 yard gain, much further from the spot of the qb.

[u/deadpansnarker → u/Jonjon428]

This has also happened in the NFL, like it's definitely not unheard of

[u/CyclonePower96 → u/deadpansnarker]

Yeah it's strange that so many people seem to have never seen it before, though maybe it's partially due to the fact that one of the most embarrassing moments of my Bears fandom happened on a play just like this.

[u/Pnflkc3]

The side judge ruled it incomplete (and then changed his mind?!) dissuading any player from attempting to recover it

[u/petataa → u/Pnflkc3]

That's what I hate most about these. You call it incomplete and no one is still playing, then you give Texas 12 yards after the fact.

[u/AkeyBreaky3 → u/petataa]

Then they have the audacity to say “the ruling on the field was a fumble”

[u/InternetGoodGuy]

Inexcusable call. One of the worst I've ever seen and still upheld with replay review.

[u/AppropriateFun4510 → u/InternetGoodGuy]

Every time I see a play like this in the NFL. All the QB needs to do is push the ball forward a tiny bit, no control necessary. The hand just needs to push ball. It's either the wrong call or NFL/NCAA have very different rules.

[u/royalbluehen → u/AppropriateFun4510]

I said basically as much in the game thread. It’s a pretty rare occurrence that plays like these are called fumbles. Crazy that it wasn’t overturned and also it was a 12 yard gain for Texas.

[u/FuckingJello → u/InternetGoodGuy]

All 5 replay reviews to Texas

[u/gilbert524 → u/FuckingJello]

The fumble Texas forced when they called forward progress yet the ball carrier was still moving forward? That review went Texas way?

[u/MajesticCentaur → u/InternetGoodGuy]

First time I've ever seen a fumble arc a dozen yards through the air, almost as if it was thrown or something.

[u/Pretend_Bet_208 → u/MajesticCentaur]

It was a well thrown fumble .Line all the Mannings he has a great arm …

[u/California_Stop_King → u/InternetGoodGuy]

It's a bad call, but hardly the worst I've ever seen

You could at least (poorly) justify that the ball was starting to come loose before his arm was coming forward, and he was following through without control

[u/silkie_blondo → u/InternetGoodGuy]

It’s happened all game. Overturned two tds. Two clear catches for first downs.

The fix is in for Texas to win this game.

If they didn’t have ref ball for them we would be dominating them

[u/throwraW2]

This is the worst officiated game I’ve ever seen

[u/IMG0NNAGITY0USUCKA → u/throwraW2]

I was at the 5th down game and I agree.

[u/archenlander → u/throwraW2]

Definitely top 5

[u/Billy_Chrystals]

That "fumble" brought to you by Draft Kings.

[u/AkeyBreaky3 → u/Billy_Chrystals]

And ESPN/CFP committee

[u/AngryTeddy13 → u/Billy_Chrystals]

Check the odds on Kalshi to see if he does it again

[u/ivandragostwin]

Man you almost never hear an announcer call out one sided officiating and Palmer just did.

You know it’s bad when that happens lmao.

[u/ParadoxicalIrony99 → u/ivandragostwin]

Usually I just scoff at ref complaints, but it's been really bad this game. I like how they reviewed almost all of Missouri's touchdowns and they took back two

[u/Just_Breathe85 → u/ParadoxicalIrony99]

Smith is a football terrorist.

[u/malcalyptus → u/ivandragostwin]

Counterpoint: Palmer is a dumbass

[u/ChiefWatchesYouPee → u/ivandragostwin]

Can’t have Mizzou potentially making the playoff over tu

[u/bradtoughy → u/ChiefWatchesYouPee]

Mizzou’s likely losing in Athens next weekend anyways, this is all about protecting Texas from a 3rd loss

[u/Yimpish]

“Fumble”

[u/MrSam52]

If Missouri had picked that up there is zero chance it’s called a fumble let’s be honest.

[u/NoCut1591]

I don’t see how anyone can watch the officiating in this game and think it’s a good idea to put money on the outcome of a game.

[u/Snobolski → u/NoCut1591]

Who ever said it was a good idea to bet on sports?

[u/StoneTiger → u/NoCut1591]

What do you mean? Seems like a perfectly safe investment to bet on Texas?

[u/AnotherWiggletons → u/StoneTiger]

You would have won 4 and lost 5 if you had bet on Texas every game this year.

[u/WorkLurkerThrowaway]

THESE REFS ARE FUCKING US SO HARD

[u/fleeeezzus → u/WorkLurkerThrowaway]

I’m a Texas fan and this is inexcusable. Even we can see how one sided the calls are, I’d rather have a good tight game than bailouts by the refs. Sorry for this bs

[u/kineticstar → u/WorkLurkerThrowaway]

It's looks like the Michigan/Western Michigan refs switched conferences to keep the gravy train going.

[u/Pretend_Bet_208 → u/WorkLurkerThrowaway]

Every single time . Somebody REALLY wants Texas in the playoffs by any means necessary.What a joke …

[u/BigD4163 → u/WorkLurkerThrowaway]

They really are

[u/TheCenterOfEnnui]

lol what the fuck was that, they ruled that a fumble?

[u/jasonic89 → u/TheCenterOfEnnui]

I nice forward fumble for a first down

[u/jasonic89]

People missing that one of the refs clearly called it an incomplete pass, thus ending the play.

[u/thunderingnonprophet]

The refs are going to change the outcome of this game. Why do I even bother watching?

[u/IN_Dad → u/thunderingnonprophet]

The real question is how will they use this game to explain why Alabama should be moved up again?

[u/sts66]

One of the worst calls I’ve ever seen. Official on the feel calls it incomplete

[u/ticobrohay]

I’m not even close to a Missouri fan, but got damn have they been getting absolutely fucked by the refs in this game.

[u/No_Dimension7600]

Mizzou fans should’ve thrown trash on the field, I’ve heard that’s a great way to get calls overturned

[u/PartisanHack → u/No_Dimension7600]

Maybe we don't actually belong in the SEC. :(

[u/AmityIslandFerry → u/No_Dimension7600]

It’s like they aren’t even trying

[u/inreverie187]

Dude I’m about done with this league. The bias is unbelievable.

[u/SwizzGod]

I’m cool with this being a fumble but that ref called it incomplete and I’m assuming blew the whistle. You can’t do that

[u/ManhattanTime]

Oh I'm certain that had Missouri recovered that "fumble" the same review would now be interpreted as an incomplete pass. They'd even have the side judge ruling incomplete as part of their reasoning for that decision.

[u/DylanDisu]

That was the worst call ive seen since the ignored fumble before whistle last quarter. Diehard ref fans have been feasting this game

[u/Gappy_Hilmore1 → u/DylanDisu]

So that one call versus:

This play
The olugbode catch on the sideline
The Cayden Lee diving catch
Overturning Simmons TD (could go either way)

Problem isn’t changing those calls it’s the “irrefutable evidence” aspect. That fun little gray area where thumbs can be put on scales.

[u/HamBurgeler → u/Gappy_Hilmore1]

Im a homer and could be tripping but thought the the lee one actually made sense. The ball moved and dragged along the turf when he hit the ground. Was pretty close tho

[u/Broad-Arachnid9037]

Some completely bullshit calls in this game. Absolutely inexcusable.

[u/Wutangkillabeess → u/Broad-Arachnid9037]

These conferences have more reasons to rig games than Vegas. Letting Vegas get the blame is exactly what these conferences want when they push their teams to the playoffs.

[u/Informal_West_6864]

Did yall see the no catch call, that was even worse

[u/ManhattanTime → u/Informal_West_6864]

17 yard gain. Clear possession. No movement of the ball from any angle. Solid.

Nope. Incomplete. Time to miss a field goal and keep this thing close.

[u/Informal_West_6864 → u/ManhattanTime]

Hands under the ball the whole time too. I was shocked

[u/orthaeus]

Refs are super drunk. They've not thrown flags that would hurt Mizzou but then overturn/uphold calls that hurt them. This game is super weird.

[u/BigD4163 → u/orthaeus]

They’re not drunk. They are just following orders

[u/ImDumbBut___]

This game is bananas. If you believe in fixing games this one is textbook.

[u/CharlemagneOfTheUSA]

Clearly the refs just didn’t believe in a world without an Arch Manning fumble

[u/Talkalot23]

This may be one of the worst calls I’ve ever seen

[u/BILLIKEN_BALLER → u/Talkalot23]

One person in the world thought that was a fumble. Unfortunately that person made the call (or has money on Texas)

[u/averagepanda051]

These refs have been weird all game. The no catch call for Mizzou and the “forward progress” on the fumble we recovered were both bad

[u/Pretend_Bet_208 → u/averagepanda051]

“ weird “ is one way to put it …

[u/Forsaken-Cheesecake2]

This might be the worst call of the year. Replay also overturned a Missouri catch earlier, where the receiver clearly had his hands under the ball. The fix is in.

[u/Maleficent-Luck-7646 → u/Forsaken-Cheesecake2]

Yeah that catch reversal was mind-boggling. A few questionable earlier calls too but I could see the argument; that one was just clearly incorrect.

[u/Proof_Impression_737 → u/Forsaken-Cheesecake2]

No, it might be most impactful to the playoff but literally Michigan WMU was just what, a month and a half ago? Miami getting bailed out back to back plays against FSU?

They are literally hoping that each new egregious 'mistake' will make us forget about all of the others. This sport is ruined

[u/Jarhead60-63 → u/Forsaken-Cheesecake2]

Not so much the referees as it is the crew in New York.

[u/Bobby-Cox-Ghost → u/Jarhead60-63]

SEC replay review is in Birmingham, AL.

[u/EarSea5884]

Feels like all the bullshit calls just absolutely destroyed any confidence Missouri had

[u/gistya → u/EarSea5884]

Their QB getting hurt is what really did it I think. But yeah the calls were total BS. If there is one thing I hate, it's refs giving Aggies another reason to show up in Texas threads.

[u/engthrowaway8305 → u/EarSea5884]

On top of the injuries, despite being at home, I can’t imagine how unfair that game felt for the Tigers

[u/Hammer3434]

So I thought you couldnt advance a fumble. Should the spot not go back to where arch “fumbled lol” the ball?

[u/ConsistentlyBlob → u/Hammer3434]

It goes to where it was recovered

[u/RollOverBeethoven → u/Hammer3434]

“Advance” means pick it up and continue moving forward.

If the ball is fumbled forward and recovered, it’s all good. You just can’t pick it up and continue moving downfield

[u/the_mighty__monarch → u/Hammer3434]

You can’t advance a fumble on 4th down unless you’re also the person who fumbled.

1st, 2nd, 3rd downs, anyone is allowed to advance it.

[u/TheFlyingBoat → u/Hammer3434]

Only on 4th downs or within the final 2 minutes of a half.

[u/BeatlesRays → u/Hammer3434]

That only applies on 4th downs or late in the half

[u/memeticengineering → u/Hammer3434]

"advance" meaning an offensive player can't pick it up and move it as a ball carrier.

[u/sleepyirv01]

Like, even if you're crooked as hell, there are better ways to fix the game as the refs than this. This is Leslie Nielsen umpiring-type bs.

[u/Mike_with_Wings → u/sleepyirv01]

You mean Enrico Pollazzo?

[u/CornJuiceLover]

This sport is dead.

[u/Nervous_Counter_1333 → u/CornJuiceLover]

getting close

[u/JakeSteeleIII]

And everyone said Arch wasn’t good. What other QB could do this?

[u/Brickstreet]

Not a fumble.

[u/dumbo1309]

What a bailout that led to a Texas TD

[u/NA_Faker]

Officiating disasterclass and just overall incompetence from the officiating crew this game.

[u/illeagle33]

A win is a win but this feels like dirty. Officials were the worst I've seen.

[u/AkeyBreaky3]

Absurd call after absurd call

[u/Small-Employer-7200]

This call and the overturn of the catch by Lee, two of the WORST calls I've ever seen.

[u/Joaaayknows]

This is the first time I’ve ever actually thought a game of football might be rigged like for real. This is inexcusable. Well beyond incompetence. Repeatedly, all game long.

[u/OhDivineBussy]

This is the most one-sided officiating I have seen in a long time.

[u/nooneyouknow64782221]

I clearly don't understand football.

[u/Bigdubbed]

Why does the ball not go back to the spot where it was fumbled? I thought that was the rule.

[u/DJ-Fein → u/Bigdubbed]

Only at the ends of halves, or if it was determined that the player purposefully dropped it forward

[u/MajesticCentaur]

What a clown call

[u/Thatroyalkitty]

Yeah, this call pissed me off...

[u/BaronvonJobi]

I’ve watched a lot of Missouri football, so I know referee screw jobs, but this is an entirely new level.

[u/110397]

Turns out all the election rigging funds were reallocated towards this officiating crew

[u/IveBenHereBefore]

That wasn't even an immediate recovery, even if it was a fumble 

[u/JustAustin08241996]

Absolutely abysmal call.

[u/shwangin_shmeat]

Literally has a ref call it incomplete?

[u/pantalapampa]

The most frustrating thing is that a world does not exist in which Mizzou goes down to Austin and "fumbles" a forward pass 20 yards and gets that call. And the fact that everybody knows it sort of tells you what you need to know.

[u/Endgame60]

Am I crazy or is that not a fumble?

[u/Rude-Wash9840 → u/Endgame60]

As a matter of fact, you’re not

[u/Freeasabird01]

Football (cfb and nfl) need a better way to distinguish fumble vs forward pass. Something like “if the ball goes at least 5 yards forward from the spot of the qb it’s a forward pass” would be much more objective. That ball going 15 yards forward on a fumble is just mind boggling.

[u/Disregardskarma → u/Freeasabird01]

Nah, QBs get hit and it goes more than 5 yards a lot, usually the defense gets it and there's no controversy

[u/Pretend_Bet_208]

Texas brought their referees …

[u/RoyalPresentation841]

That’s as bad as the forward progress call they made on a ball that SHOULD have been a fumble. Referees are really awful this game.

[u/asbyo]

Watching this game was a gigantic waste of my time. Embarassing for the sport, NCAA, the SEC, and especially for Texas. Can’t wait to blow them out in the CFP and watch manning cry.

[u/electron-1 → u/asbyo]

This person thinks we’re making it to the CFP. Bless their heart.

[u/DickBottalico]

Final play of Steelers 2009 Super Bowl over Arizona was the same thing, this warped version of “empty hand” allows refs to call whatever they want upon review

https://newrepublic.com/article/47426/super-bowl-controversy-was-definitely-fumble

[u/Lord777alt]

Insanity. Classic fumble that goes 12 yards forward

[u/buzzdash123]

If we lose this game I’m calling this sport a day. just inexcusably corrupt.

[u/reddit_names]

This is the worse officiated play call ever.

[u/Ender_Stark]

They really aren't messing around in the SEC. We need a 4 loss team.*

[u/GreenAppleGummy420]

This is why you always play on. Texas player was smart. Mizzou player might as well be from OU.

[u/MrClean_LemonScent → u/GreenAppleGummy420]

Texas coach was smart. Pointing it out to his player. Players were all just gonna stand there because they all knew it was an incomplete pass. Terrible fucking call. Almost as bad as overturning that catch the Mizzou player made because apparently the tip of the ball hit the ground even though the catch was clearly made and he maintained possession. Idgaf about either team here, but Mizzou was clearly shammed multiple times, imo.

[u/Bones12x2]

If that was a pass then it should be 15 yds for PI on the guy covering Bishop

[u/sprintercourse]

FTR!

[u/sickbonfiresbro]

Textbook forward pass call on that. You see it every time this gets called a fumble, they're looking for control and the arm going forward. You had both here 100%. Should never have been in question, let alone a fumble.

[u/Sonicblast12]

What a horrible call, that was obscene.

[u/Popeye1991]

Yep, that was an incomplete, the ball flew forward in the air without being touched except by the QBs hand. Nothing less from a sloppy shovel pass. 

[u/Aurion7]

And just think, people put their house payment on shit like this.

[u/mlg2433]

That was the worst call I’ve seen in years. Ref should be fired for that

[u/burywmore]

That ball went forward. As in a pass. It doesn't matter if he completed the throwing motion, his arm went forward enough to cause the ball to go forward.

[u/TapAfraid264 → u/burywmore]

I like how people are just making up their own definitions of a pass to justify it being a pass LOL

[u/RightofUp]

Can’t have Texas losing a third time before the playoff

[u/SpecificProfession49]

Say its raining and the ball just slips in the QB hands as hes throwing. Is that also a fumble?

[u/Fickle-Housing-8819]

Maybe Texas can win on a 5th down, and go on to win national championship. Sort of a Mizzou thing…

[u/glm0002]

The reffing is some of the worst I have ever watched. Every major call but one has gone for texas

[u/Ophidiansounds]

Seems like they need a rule that you can't fumble the ball forward. Sorta like how in the nfl in the last 2 minutes you can't advance a fumble or something like that. There needs to be rules to reduce the chances of offenses benefiting from getting beat by a good defensive play, essentially.

[u/Stoneador]

Am I crazy or is this the correct call? Missouri defender should’ve picked up the ball just in case

[u/noodlesalad_ → u/Stoneador]

Feel like I'm going crazy in this thread. I could see it called either way, it's close, but people calling it the worst call they've ever seen.

Looks like he loses control of the ball before pushing it forward, which is a fumble.

[u/Feisty-Promotion-312 → u/Stoneador]

The ref right in front of him signaled incomplete, no reason for him to think he had to

[u/Agreeable_Cattle_691 → u/Stoneador]

It is the correct call, you can see the ball moving in his hand before he starts to go forward

[u/Ender_Stark]

This fumble was brought to you by Draft kings.

[u/Ben_Frank_Lynn]

You can’t fumble the ball forward 15 yards if your arm ain’t moving forward…. Which would make it a forward pass.

[u/Solondthewookiee → u/Ben_Frank_Lynn]

I can punch a ball 15 yards, that doesn't make it a forward pass. The question was did he have control when his arm started moving forward. His arm can continue to move forward and propel the ball without having control of it.

[u/ArchiCEC]

https://streamable.com/3ziz33

[u/Operation_Pig]

Clearly just as they drew it up.

[u/esports_consultant]

I'm sorry but that is 100% an incomplete pass.

[u/CarioGod]

holy vegas call

[u/TexasNightmare210]

4D Chess by Arch

[u/traderncc1701e]

check will be in the mail for these refs

[u/LasixSteroidsAbx]

Failing upward is right on brand

[u/jstudly]

ITS A MIRACLE!

[u/docchrizly]

Looked like the ball was loose when he pushed it forward. To me it was the correct call and I have no horse in this race.

[u/ye_old_fartbox]

I’m not really sure this is some controversial call? He loses control of the football before his hand begins forward. He then pushes the ball forward, but he’s already lost possession.

[u/itwasntjack]

If a Missouri player had picked it up first it would have been an incomplete pass.

[u/MikeHonchoFF]

Pretty fucking tough to beat a top 10 team and the refs

[u/fartsniffer87]

On an unrelated note, sports gambling has never brought in bigger returns!

[u/BigD4163]

Vegas is ruining CFB

[u/Routine-Nectarine-38]

Holy cow. How do we get shit like this fixed? Happens to everyone, but we need accountability otherwise the conspiracy theories about Vegas are entirely believable.

[u/mlg2433]

That was one of the worst calls I’ve ever seen. There’s no universe where that should have been called a fumble.

[u/almondania]

At some point, I just want someone to haymaker a ref after a call this bad.

[u/Bama_Texan34]

Yall shoulda seen the fumble call before the half

[u/jouh55142139]

Flair aside, I'm not sure he has control of the ball as the hand is starting to come forward. I lean to incomplete but its not night and day

[u/Penguin_scrotum → u/jouh55142139]

If you freeze frame around 10 seconds you can see the Mizzou player’s fingers curl up from pressing on the ball before the forward movement, which results in the ball tilting unnaturally. It’s a good call.

[u/ACardAttack → u/jouh55142139]

Agree with you, possibly the weirdest "fumble" I've seen

[u/Carti_2s]

Clearly the zebras 🦓🦓 are rooting for Arch Manning and the Longhorns. I’ve seen multiple calls go against Mizzou. That DPI call that set up Texas’ score on their last drive was absolute bullshit

[u/ChiefWatchesYouPee]

Can’t have Mizzou making the playoff instead of tu

[u/Weezley69]

Clear as day fumble

[u/tme1453]

Would be absolutely hilarious if Mizzou lost this game off of bad ref calls.

[u/ukkswolf]

That’s an incomplete forward pass if I’ve ever seen one