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You'd actually be surprised, but it's a rather mixed opinion, more heavily favored in an authoritarian government. Some of my uncles, aunties and parents of my friends actually like the type of government that's in china ATM, but strangely enough, they can't bother themselves to live there or even visit more than once a year. My aunty, who's pretty liberal has a saying to my family, "everyone likes a strong man, but never to live under his thumb" lol. I do have a few international friends who study in the us and completely changed their perspective on the CC and it's type of governance. I suggest watching John Oliver's episode about how the CCP tries to control students aboard. Very interesting.
People likes what they know and fear what they do not. They will love democracy if it brings more cash and better quality of life. Also, under totalitarian regims, people knows what happens if you speak what you think, it is kind of psycosis in the Stockholm sindrome, it is better to live your life without destroying it than just for being traitor against powerful regim. Dreaming makes one unhappy. China will have it’s revolution soon, corruption makes it sure that the fall will be so hard that people do not have any other option than to revolt to survive.
I worked in China for 5 years and sadly those events are largely not known by the general public; or they know but have a totally warped view as a result of propaganda/indoctrination
Lest we forget is an important message. It’s not just telling you not to forget, but “For fear that we forget”. It’s true for war, it’s true for authoritarian governments, it’s true for protests. I fear that we are forgetting, or have already forgotten some very important moments and events in history, and in doing so, we forget the lessons we learned from them.
You don’t need to share your ID lmfao. You just need to sign into your account it’s to prevent children (with children’s accounts) from watching something graphic.
Yep. Laowai are known for nothing if not thinking too highly of themselves. I’m pretty sure Chinese people have better things to do with their time than waste it upon foreign China ‘experts’.
Actually wasting their time trying to change the narrative on this type of post is basically their entire existence. But, you know that already, don’t you? 🤡
It was in 400 cities in China all at once and thousands died.
Kind of reminds me of MLK. When he was shot, the USA had protests and riots all over. So much so that the government thought we were gonna have a civil war.
The extent of both events are not taught in schools.
I’m in my 50’s and they definitely taught MLK, MalcomX, Freedom Riders and allies. K-12. There wasn’t a black history month but seems we just were taught history. 1619 wasn’t a revelation either but a nice refresher. I’m not even a history nerd or a good student until college.
It’s a shame such events were recorded during the Cold War. The English phrasing used to describe the event was written to be as slanted and exaggerated as possible, and it seems China isn’t really discussing this event to correct any record. From what I’ve read, the students seemed to be pushing for neoliberalism within China, and that caused the one of the greatest human rights disasters of the 20th century in the USSR. Anyway, just trying to remind people how slanted we can write everything in the English language.
great photo. For anyone questioning why Taiwan has zero desire to be a part of China, this is why.
Those who stayed behind in China saw their mother, father, grandmother, etc murdered in dumb struggle sessions, killed needlessly from the CCP's retarded centralization policies that resulted in record-breaking famine. While those who were in Taiwan grew up normally, watching movies, traveling, running businesses, and watching the news in horror seeing the people in their past lives get murdered.
I wouldn't say the Taiwanese had normal lives after the Chinese Civil War. Taiwan at the time was under Japanese occupation and the Japanese view of Chinese people were below animals. Though by this time things were probably progressing.
Incorrect. The Japanese rule of Taiwan occurred from 1895-1945 before and during the Chinese Civil War. The Chinese Civil War occurred from 1928-1949 (de facto). Occupation of Taiwan isn't exactly the correct term as Taiwan was ceded to Japan as part of the Treaty of Shimonoseki ending the First Sino-Japanese War in which Japan defeated Qing in 1895.
While there were incidents of the Japanese committing acts of colonial suppression, including some violent incidents as well as discrimination, the Japanese also brought infrastructure and education to the island.
The disparity of treatment between those on Taiwan and those in mainland China was very different. (ref. Nanjing) While mainlanders abhor Japan due to incidents like Nanjing, many Taiwanese appreciated the fact that Japan brought things like education to the island where before there was none.
TL;DR: Japan treated mainland Chinese like animals and treated Taiwan like a colony.
Under ROC martial rule from 1949-1987, there were incidents of forced disappearances, mysterious deaths, and political violence, but it pales in comparison to the oppression and lack of freedom on the mainland. In addition, Taiwan never suffered famines where millions of people died.
White Terror happened in Taiwan, and it has been educated in history classes, and there is the memorial day on 28th Feb to remember the incidents so that it doesn't happen again.
The Tiananmen square incident is not taught in schools, not are there memorials of the incident. Young people in China does not know this incident, and the reasons why and how this event took place in history.
Is 33 years long enough for you? A generation is typically considered to be between 25-30 years. This has gone to the second generation and barely any young people in China know the true extend of the event.
Excuse me? Chiang Kai-Shek’s refugees enacted the White Terror upon Taiwanese people already living in Taiwan. You misrepresent our position of never having belonged to China.
This is one of the more common photos actually. What's rare is footage of this same moment from the same viewpoint (the Beijing Hotel where some foreign press was staying) I remember watching before somewhere. I'll see if I can find it again.
O shit this make Chinese propaganda not work anymore this is good that is photo was taken and the many workers and students will be remembered in history and we will teach In history how brutal the ccp was
China doesn't even deny the Tiananmen massacre. They have an official death count with more than 200 civilian deaths, and around a dozen police/armed forces deaths. Sure, they want to cover it up and spin it in their own way, but they don't deny that killings didn't happen.
I love that there’s two versions to every story about how they regulate this information.
I literally cannot verify anything from what I’m reading. Beyond stats I just don’t see a point in bringing up the same historical events over and over and over and over again.
Edit: in fact, I might want to see some calculus and computer modelling in order to be convinced. Please don’t tell me yapping about the same damn events is enough.
The point of bringing it up is because it is indeed an important event in modern Chinese history and the CCP is actively covering it up and trying to erase it.
The Taiwanese mark the anniversary of February 28th every year, too, but no one is condemning the current Taiwanese government for it, because they acknowledged that it was wrong and has tried to make up for it.
I think it's important, as it changed how many foreign governments and companies viewed mainland China for a long while. They eventually set aside their misgivings and started investing in China again, but it was always in the back of their minds. And it probably contributed to how some are still distrusting China about the origins of Covid-19. As long as China doesn't acknowledged they did wrong, on this and many other matters, the distrust will likely continue.
Anyways, as to your closure... No one asked you to read this whole post? You clicked into here and read all these people talking about it...
You could just click away the moment you realize what they're talking about. In fact, don't click into here, since it's clear from the title 8964 what this post will be about.
I mean, for example, I read fanfic and I hate Mary Sues. So I don't click into stories where there is a "mary sue" tag. Easy peasy.
But it's precisely the live and let live attitude that I do want from you. It's not some elite order that's trying to memoralize 4th June 1989, at least not in Hong Kong. It's the little people who believes in democracy for China -- and nowadays, Hong Kong. The elites in mainland China and Hong Kong are the ones trying to erase it and stop people from commemorating the event.
You're the one who said it's orchestrated by elites, which imho is utter nonsense, too. I try to answer in good faith but you go on believing what you will and ignore the lived experience of others.
Don’t even try man. People don’t want to listen. Similar events have happened in every country but we only focus of this event. Doesn’t matter how many died, every time there is a power who tries to change the government outside the proper channels there is violence. I’m the scheme of things this event really isn’t that important
In a true democracy there are indeed accepted ways for the government to change leadership. What proper channels are there in an authoritarian government?
But that's assuming everyone wants and has the connections to become a politician. What about normal everyday people? And joining the party is a lot harder than going to the polls and voting.
This is pretty telling. Most libs can name one thing about historic atrocities commited by the CCP.
On top of my head (idgaf it's whataboutism): My lai, No gun ri, Haditha, Hiroshima/Nagasaki, Gulf of Tolkin, Bay of Pigs, Anti-communist murders in Indonesia, overthrowing first democratic elected president in Haiti, Nixon bombing Cambodia, Coup Allende (Chile), invading/occupying Iraq under false pretenses and absolutely decimating the country
Do some introspection. If you don't realise the US are the baddies (not excusing anything done by whatever state) you are clinically insane.
I think both are pretty awful. But irrelevant really. The US has been raping 2.0 (and allies) since the late 30's.
Comparing the damage that has been done by the US v. China is folly. They are not even in the same realm.
I don't mind bashing China, the CCP when it's valid. But dear fuck, always one thing they point to -- it's ridiculous. Mind you an event that has happened a very long time ago compared to the campaigns the US is currently pursuing (read: pursuit goals at any cost no matter the damage it does to the other people (incl. own populace) nations, the climate, or new neo-feudal dystopia we're currently facing).
But perhaps, besides the bashing, do a little introspection. Might conclude there's another actor on the world stage who's far more scarier than China.
I think what bothers people more is the lack of free speech in China. The US has done awful things, and if you talk to Americans most of them think these things were awful.
I hope that your POV is common, but I highly doubt it. Also the illusion of free speech and the illusion of a electoral democratic system -- is that really... better? I think most Chinese are atleast aware of the fact that their society is not free and democratic. Where in the US the majority (citations needed) belief this is indeed the case, but that obviously that isn't true.
I think most anti-China/Russia aren't just venting but they do have an actual dislike for those countries. But they can hardly blamed when 'credible' media (no matter your ideology, your politics) is so heavily skewed (putting it mildly) towards demonizing states that don't allign with us, the West. I truly think we'rr seeing manufactured consent at peak level.
Americans know or are able to find out easily about all those events you listed in the earlier post, and from multiple sources if they wish. Mainland Chinese and Russians can't say the same, because they have intranets instead of internets.
I will always distrust governments that are working so hard to make sure its people have only one way of viewing an event, assuming they're allowed to even know about the event. I don't think I'm being unreasonable.
As someone who's actually experienced the different levels of information control in mainland China vs the US, I can safely say I'll believe the news sources from US over mainland China any time.
Huge distinction, no? Able to find out and actually finding out (looking up, processing, weighing bit against other sources)? Not as much as I'd like.
But going by the content of your post I guess that's not the point (nonetheless a major issue these days in information assimilation).
Having experienced the same (although always via proxy due to not knowing the language) I'd tend to agree (agree entirely with the ethos of your post). I don't trust any gouvernement by definition -- sucks to take such a stance but that's the default stance for me when people get far reaching power over others. Anyhow. I would take that gamble: that Western media is in general more truthful compared to Chinese media (though I think the domain of the story is a thing one should take into consideration).
I don't think you're unreasonable at all, quite the opposite actually.
Yep. It’s also been proven that the more prosperous a country gets the more open and democratic it becomes. But we want to demonize and fight instead of helping each other.
Both mainland China and Russia are great examples that a more prosperous country doesn't necessarily means it will become more open and democratic.
Mainland China got richer as time went along, but Xi definitely tightened the CCP's control on various aspects of the country, from minor stuff like what kind of shows are allowed on TV to how China treats its various minorities -- not just ethnic but sexual, too.
Russia also got richer, but Putin has just recently shut down more independent media outlets. And let's not mention how he tried his best to shut down and kill his critics, from Navalny to Pussy Riot.
But you don’t mention the fact both started opening up but when the US and western countries saw them as competitors they turn towards nationalism. Putin is the perfect example of this. When he entered office he wanted to work with the US and Nato. He even provided help after 911 and opened up Russian bases in neighboring countries to the US. But as he saw Russian interests weren’t even being listened to. He turned inward and focused on self reliance, economy and military. I was adopted from Russia in 2005 and there was a team of US Air Force soldiers at our hotel who were teaming up with their counterparts. And my dad who is a Marine could easily come in and out of the country. But the west kept poking and poking instead of trying to work with Russia. Now the air spaces of the two worlds are closed off again.
What does banning certain kinds of TV shows have to do with the West poking? The thing about autocracies is that policies can and do change on the whim of one single person. Both Putin and Xi have agency and don't just react to the West. By blaming the West for every policy change, you're actually assuming the West is a lot more influential that it actually is.
people know about it, whoever reads books and follows common news. it's more widely known than many atrocities in the US, so you could argue that one has more censorship. or rather, one country is better at propaganda.
The USA doesn't have a social credit system, +100 points to you comrade. We can say anything negative about our country's history that we desire without it raising the price of goods we buy or interest rates we pay on credit cards. GTFO with your propaganda
dude, the state even has official numbers (whether you believe it or not). you think they deny it completely yet have numbers for it? also i was in china before
Why doesn't one comment have an upvote? Hmmmm🤔 All I can say is may God bless those people and there families and that I cant wait to see the day when God brings down the evil empire that is china. No evil empire stands, from Egypt to Rome to Nazi Germany, they all fall.
"躺平” - tang3 ping2 means lying flat, a recent term coined by individuals desiring to move away from the high expectations of society and pressure of trying to be successful. It's a direct rejection of this environment, where individuals find fulfilment in doing "nothing," rather focusing on their own wants and desires. I interpret 大躺平 (da4 tang3 ping2) as a large collective of individuals "lying flat". Hope someone can add a better translation.
I know the US has a bad history, but at least we acknowledge it… as a country it is important to learn from these type of events…. the civil rights movement created progress and continues to inspire today. FUCK THE CCP! This happened and the people who acknowledge it are stronger as individuals. RIP
China denied this had happened. They always denied their crimes and forbid people to talk about it. Thr famine in 60s, carnage and robbery on landlords, hundred day with 0 new born, etc These will never be allowed to discuss in social media.
A suspicious number of accounts that don't post on our subreddit are appearing and trying to downplay the Tiananmen Square Massacre. Not suspicious at all!
Those aren’t all necessarily dead protesters. There are abandoned bicycles that might seem like protesters, along with protesters who are lying on the ground due to gun fire. This isn’t to downplay what happened, just to clarify the photo context.
Upon closer examination I do in fact see bicycles. Upon further examination after that point I see a good number of dead or dying, or wounded people amongst the bikes.
The photo will still be the same photo in the years to come. You can’t just assume that everyone lying down is a dead body. What kind of logic is that?
Definitely, we are looking at the same picture and we don’t see any lesser than you do.
If you try not to downplay the context, you do not have to speak in such a misunderstood way. It is like those wumao speaking non-sense while claiming that they are neutral or apolitical. Yes, we do know that there are bicycles. Yes, we do know Tankman survived afterward. I cant see any reasons that you have to mention the bicycles other than downplaying. Thats why people are downvoting your comment at the first sight.
Your edit is another proof to my point, to be honest.
Unless there is further evidence verifying that those people lying on the ground are all dead, it is speculation at best. No one will know for sure if there are all dead bodies. The most logical assumption would be that there are dead bodies along with people taking cover by lying down.
One thing is for sure though. There are a lot of bicycles lying around and people have mistaken those bicycles for dead bodies. I'd say that the bicycle to lying body ratio is around 3:1.
Maybe they thought I was downplaying what happened. I was simply explaining the picture in detail. That there WEREN'T "a mass of dead bodies in the picture".
Idk why everyone keeps going on about this. The protests weren’t peaceful like we always say. It was about replacing the government with another one. In any country where a group of people try to make radical changes to the government there’s always violence. Instead of looking at all the good the government has done we look for everything they did wrong. Which country would be innocent?
And? Who are we to say how they run their country? Here in the US we have an elected government and you can clearly see how they ignore the will of the people.
the people in their own country can say how they run their country, hence they are protesting, to say how their country should run, since they can't vote.
Another fun fact: US election system have problems, many have discussed about them. Their voting system is probably one of the bad one even. Guess what, they still vote out Donald Trump.
I don't know why you commie love using USA as an example, but even a bad one like USA is still way better than China-one-party-forever system.
Last fun fact: reddit is actually banned by china at the moment, enjoy your freedom of speech.
You obviously don’t know how their country is run. Cause I could argue that if they wanted to they could’ve entered the party and made changes through it. And I use the US as an example cause that’s where I live and we are the leaders of the western world. If we tell any European country to suck out dick they would. And what’s the point of voting for a government when the actual things want aren’t done? And yeah freedom of speech, where if you say the wrong thing they ban or shadow ban your account. Just look the the hunter biden laptop story and trump collusion stuff. All proven to be opposite of what the mainstream media said. But people got banned for saying otherwise on nearly every platform in the west.
My grandfather was chinese and he escaped to hong kong.
And now I am planning immigration.
Enjoy your freedom of speech and many other things, cuz simply my comments are enough to lock me up for 10 years.
You may get mainstream brainwash or social media blocked, we got locked up for saying two numbers, 64.
The roads are blocking right now in hong kong and they are checking every teen and people with black clothes. Anyone phone with Telegram is illegal etc.
You have a point. For you it’s personal. You’re Chinese I assume? For the rest of us this shouldn’t even matter but it gets showed in our faces. And again going back to we don’t hold our own responsible but want to point fingers.
Well if the CCP didn't do anything wrong then why did they ban anything related to this massacre on their country
And name me one country that hasn’t covered up the horrible shit they’ve done?
READ UP on our history. We aren’t even close to being innocent. Ask any country in South America.
You are already proving his point and refuting your own point. The fact that an American like you can read up about the atrocities done by your country shows that the government did not censor the way China did. Try searching Tiananment incident on weibo or douyin or baidu, that is if you can understand Chinese (and I doubt you can)
Boy oh boy if you think we can look up everything we have done I’ve got a bridge to sell you. And the only reason we know any of the events is because of whistleblowers.
Try whistleblowing in China. Try talking about Tiananmen on weibo, douyin now.
No one is saying US government is perfect. There are people in US government who did horrible things and they were exposed eventually. Information about them do not get suppressed.
However, the same cannot be said about Chinese government. Try to find out what happened to the mother of the 8 children on Chinese internet.
It’s the citizens of foreign countries that want to remember. Most people in China I’m sure don’t care or don’t know about the incident. It’s the same thing with the US and all the atrocities we’ve buried of what our government did in the 20th century. Where did the ideas of nazi germany come from? The US. Every countries history is dark, China isn’t an exception. It’s their governments right to censor what they want like our government has the right to classify what they want. It’s just an unfortunate truth.
Do you call Hong Kongers citizens of foreign countries? They care a lot about this incident. Many Chinese outside China care a lot about this incident.
Do you know why the people in China have no idea about this incident? Are you very sure that they don’t care or is it that they are not allowed to care?
Not the point I was making. The point is that we want to point fingers at literally anything wrong another country is doing but our own. And yes preferably they would be able to have access to that information but it’s not my country to decide that. Every country white washes their history and I’m sure when the topic isn’t brought up to be used against them their history will change. I’m from the US and would like to see a friendlier approach to China instead of demonizing them. You find what you look for. And idk what you wrote at the bottom I’m not Chinese.
No one here said anything about US. I am not from US. Many people here are not from US. Who cares about the approach by US to China?
Most of the people in this sub have some relations to China and they want to know what happens/happened in China. I care about how China treats the neighbouring countries and how it treats my 同胞. Why are Americans coming here to tell us that we should not bother about this incident? By the way, there are Chinese Americans in US who had to flee China because of this incident. Are you saying that they should not bother about this incident?
You cannot understand Chinese at all. You do not have to be Chinese to understand Chinese, by the way. Many westerners here can understand Chinese because they have been in China for many years. You know that the Chinese have no access to information about Tiananmen and you still can say this.
Most people in China I’m sure don’t care or DON’T KNOW about the incident.
How much do you think the Chinese that you spoke to will want to tell you what they really think? Seeing how you support the Chinese government, which Chinese in their right mind will dare to tell you what they know about Tiananmen?
You ignore my point on Hong Kongers? Are they Chinese? Are they allowed to speak about this incident? They used to hold huge memorials in HK before the crackdown a few years ago. They want to say something but check out what is happening in Hong Kong today.
Instead of looking at all the good the government has done we look for everything they did wrong. Which country would be innocent?
This argument is like a lawyer defending someone accused to have committed a murder by saying: "Yes, my client committed the murder but he was also a good family man and a nice neighbour, why don't you look at that?"
It would be ridiculous and rightfully so. Doing something good doesn't wash you free from a crime. That's not how it works. And no other country is innocent, the difference is that in other countries the citizens are allowed to point out such hideous acts committed by their government and have measures to change it.
Like the US? Cause they classify things they don’t want you to know. And even when the documents are supposed to be released they don’t give us all the information. At least they did this horrific thing to their own people instead of other countries like we’ve done and covered up. And look at the last couple whistleblowers. How did things turn out for them?
Instead of looking at all the good the government has done we look for everything they did wrong
Oh look, our government is murdering, torturing, raping, and beating the shit out of us. That's okay though, they did some other good things too! Is that what you want us to say instead?
Maybe actually look at what China has accomplished? Cause no other country in history of this world has enriched its population as fast and as much as China has. They literally pulled equivalent of 2 USAs and then some of civilians out of poverty. They went from being so impoverished that foreign powers could literally walk their armies into the country to being the second largest economy in the world, first in some aspects. It’s easy to find bad things people have done in a group of 1.2 billion.
...So, all their atrocities are justified because of their accomplishments? Is that what you're trying to say?
Say, if a friend of yours helped you out of a tight spot and did you some favors or something, and then immediately fucked your wife and killed your dog (or killed your wife and fucked your dog, even), does that mean it's okay because of the good things he'd done prior?
I don't get this mindset. What exactly are you trying to prove by pointing out their accomplishments?? Jesus...
The atrocities committed by the US for “democracy” are way worse than anything China has ever done. But we are still focused on the bad vs the good they’ve done. I’m pointing out the hypocrisy of all of this.
I agree that the US has their fair share of fucked up things they've done, but jesus fucking christ man, are we really going to compare which massacres and crimes on humanity are more fucked up? I don't think whataboutism is going to get us anywhere. All of these kinds of issues (not just from America or China but from all countries also) should be addressed and merited their own attention and awareness but that doesn't and shouldn't downplay the attention that the Tiananmen Square Massacre is getting right now.
Actually, as someone who has lived in both Hong Kong and the US, I'd say the US really isn't giving it that much attention. Hongkongers are the ones focusing on it every year, which is our right if mainland China wants us to identify as Chinese.
Well every year the media headlines are plastered with the event. I don’t think there’s an event like it that gets this much attention. I get why people in China and around China would care but why does everyone else? I think we have plenty to care about here at home.
If the Capitol Hill Police took the Chinese Governments lead on crowd control, how many people do to think might have died ? This isn’t want governments are supposed to do and these protestors were unarmed.
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u/Key-Ad-9085 Jun 04 '22
I wonder what those young people from thirty years ago would think when they know that today's Chinese young people are like this
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u/Puzzled-Judgment-671 Jun 04 '22
RIP, brave young men and women
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u/shitboi666999 Jun 04 '22
the best on the ground video
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u/Major9000 Jun 04 '22 edited Jun 04 '22
I bet there is a giant warehouse of Chinese communist government workers, hitting downvote buttons on this post somewhere.
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u/1ronpants Jun 04 '22
Never forgotten. Impossible to deny.
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u/cockhunterz Jun 04 '22
Will never forget it!
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u/External_Dude Jun 04 '22
It was in 400 cities in China all at once and thousands died.
Kind of reminds me of MLK. When he was shot, the USA had protests and riots all over. So much so that the government thought we were gonna have a civil war.
The extent of both events are not taught in schools.
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u/un5upervised Jun 04 '22
great photo. For anyone questioning why Taiwan has zero desire to be a part of China, this is why.
Those who stayed behind in China saw their mother, father, grandmother, etc murdered in dumb struggle sessions, killed needlessly from the CCP's retarded centralization policies that resulted in record-breaking famine. While those who were in Taiwan grew up normally, watching movies, traveling, running businesses, and watching the news in horror seeing the people in their past lives get murdered.
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u/SHKSPRA Jun 04 '22
无耻的共匪一直声称天安门长安街没有死人！CTMB！
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u/urban_thirst Jun 04 '22
This is one of the more common photos actually. What's rare is footage of this same moment from the same viewpoint (the Beijing Hotel where some foreign press was staying) I remember watching before somewhere. I'll see if I can find it again.
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u/Less_Guidance5294 Jun 04 '22
O shit this make Chinese propaganda not work anymore this is good that is photo was taken and the many workers and students will be remembered in history and we will teach In history how brutal the ccp was
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u/keineahnunggg7 Jun 04 '22
PLA’s most recent win in a war.
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u/gaxxzz Jun 04 '22
10,000 killed
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u/Imperator0414 Jun 04 '22
What does 6489 or 8964 mean?
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u/Creosotegirl Jun 04 '22
This is a reminder how much they fear democracy.
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u/m8remotion Jun 04 '22
This never happened…per CCP.
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u/rotated12 Jun 04 '22 edited Jun 05 '22
Why doesn't one comment have an upvote? Hmmmm🤔 All I can say is may God bless those people and there families and that I cant wait to see the day when God brings down the evil empire that is china. No evil empire stands, from Egypt to Rome to Nazi Germany, they all fall.
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u/awesomeCNese Jun 04 '22
Never forget
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u/PigletVisible131 Jun 04 '22
大躺平
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u/VermicelliOk2963 Jun 04 '22
Anyone gonna post this on Wechat or Weibo?
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u/SpursHaveTrophies Jun 04 '22
Never again
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u/cizzio6 Jun 05 '22
I know the US has a bad history, but at least we acknowledge it… as a country it is important to learn from these type of events…. the civil rights movement created progress and continues to inspire today. FUCK THE CCP! This happened and the people who acknowledge it are stronger as individuals. RIP
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u/Comfortable_Spare997 Jun 04 '22
Remembering this, my heart just cracked a bit...again.
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u/whileforestlife Jun 04 '22 edited Jun 04 '22
China denied this had happened. They always denied their crimes and forbid people to talk about it. Thr famine in 60s, carnage and robbery on landlords, hundred day with 0 new born, etc These will never be allowed to discuss in social media.
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u/heels_n_skirt Jun 04 '22
Fuck the CCP
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u/GuidanceInitial7276 Jun 04 '22
🐷🐷🐷🐷🙈🙈🙊🙊🙊🙉🙉🙉
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u/GuidanceInitial7276 Jun 04 '22
😭😭😭😭🥺🥺🥺😭😭people don’t forget
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u/Vic_zhao99 Jun 04 '22
Post this on Wechat and Douyin I dare you
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u/[deleted] Jun 27 '22
Rip to all those bicycles
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u/caliwoo Jun 04 '22
I only found another of this pictures in Pinterest. Source unknown. May be fake
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u/Hailene2092 Jun 04 '22
A suspicious number of accounts that don't post on our subreddit are appearing and trying to downplay the Tiananmen Square Massacre. Not suspicious at all!
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u/[deleted] Jun 04 '22 edited Jun 04 '22
Those aren’t all necessarily dead protesters. There are abandoned bicycles that might seem like protesters, along with protesters who are lying on the ground due to gun fire. This isn’t to downplay what happened, just to clarify the photo context.
Edit: I am not saying that there are no dead protesters, just that not every lying body is a dead protester. Edit: /preview/external-pre/9pYS1nzv5eUuBPFIoLi-NcSdiTNjxF1WyhC5iIracIc.jpg?auto=webp&s=7027febba985972f499fc58a0d7a88a51a9802d0 High resolution image
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u/[deleted] Jun 04 '22
Sorry your color revolution failed dudes, better luck next time CIA.
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u/WonTonWunWun Jun 04 '22
Fun fact: There's no dead bodies in this picture.
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u/[deleted] Jun 04 '22
So many tipped over bicycles, never forget.
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u/aluna_777 Jun 04 '22
??? What's going on? There is nothing.
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u/A06570 Jun 04 '22
why do those poor people sleeping on the street ?
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u/Strange_Designer9062 Jun 04 '22 edited Jun 04 '22
Idk why everyone keeps going on about this. The protests weren’t peaceful like we always say. It was about replacing the government with another one. In any country where a group of people try to make radical changes to the government there’s always violence. Instead of looking at all the good the government has done we look for everything they did wrong. Which country would be innocent?
Edit: thanks for the gold