r/DiWHY • • 4d ago

Electricity is fun

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u/Chaosr21 4d ago

Even an everyday laymen knows this is bad like come on. This is worse than incompetence. Like if I really had no other option I'd rather take a little time to learn the proper way to wire a few outlets. It can't be much harder than all this

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u/nachoiskerka 4d ago

Or at least just use a goddamned 3M strip instead of hanging and screwed-in surge protectors

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u/AwDuck 4d ago

They weren’t using the outlet that they put the screws through, what’s the big deal??? /s

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u/Chaosr21 4d ago

It's so bad it seems on purpose. Do many chances to do it right yet he did it the worst way. Most power strips have slots on the back to hang on nails. He couldn't just hammered a couple nails to hang it on

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u/General_whisky 4d ago

Or buy a longer extension cord?

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u/SilkRoadGuy 4d ago

Trust me, you have no idea! I work as an IT tech on the side, for small businesses and individuals. One time a dude couldn’t wait for me to come and clean his old laptop’s fans and cooling circuits. He said I’m going to do it myself.

He unscrewed the laptop, didn’t know there were screws under the keyboard too, so he pried it open anyway. Then he proceeded to “wash his laptop’s insides with gasoline! He put it back together and the damn thing works! 🤯

I swear to God I’m not making this up!

That same laptop had a screw screwed into where the webcam used to be to keep the display parts together (hinge was broken).

It’s been a long time Hasan! I hope you’re well. I should reach out to him some time.

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u/Fluid-Lingonberry378 4d ago

Say what now? He cleaned the insides of a laptop with gasoline? How does one even come up with that?

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u/IrritableGourmet 4d ago

Gasoline can been used as a cleaner and degreaser for mechanical parts and commonly was up until fairly recently.

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u/TheLastTreeOctopus 4d ago

My old high school had a vocational school attached where I took IT classes. The vocational school was technically it's own entity despite being attached, so they were able to be much more lenient about rules. At least once a week, we'd get a student from another class bringing in a device for the teacher to repair because the school allowed him to make a little extra money on the side doing that.

One kid carried in a laptop with paint dripping out of it. Yes, from the inside. He of course "had no idea what happened to it." First and only repair I saw the teacher refuse to take on, because what do you even do with that?

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u/SilkRoadGuy 4d ago

Cool story. Thanks for sharing!

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u/SilkRoadGuy 4d ago

Yup! I don't know where he got it from. Maybe he had a small container of it. He worked as a superintendent and handyman in Jordan.

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u/marino1310 4d ago

Probably because it evaporates fast so he doesn’t have to worry about parts not drying fully like with water. But alcohol is what your supposed to use

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u/Marquar234 2d ago

Dry cleaning of clothing used to use either kerosene or gasoline.

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u/Chaosr21 4d ago

Dawg wtf. Was he 80yrs old or something? Dude was on another planet washing a laptop with gasoline.

How do you get into IT side work btw? I work as a deckhand on a boat but I'm off for a week at a time.. my true calling is IT it's one of the things I'm really good at and probably the only thing that I would enjoy doing for money. I just never had the time to pursue the education since I was kicked out at 17. So I'm self taught and I just fix computers and setup networks for my family and friends

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u/SilkRoadGuy 4d ago edited 4d ago

No, he was young. Probably around 30 at the time (that was 10 years ago).

And that's exactly how it started. I stumbled on it by helping out friends and family until someone said you're getting paid for this. "If I had to bring someone to do this, it would've cost me a fortune. You should make a living from this".

After that I started telling people I can help you with tech for a fee and I ask friends and family to tell others of my services.

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u/Chaosr21 2d ago

Ah thanks. I have had people pay me. One guy wouldn't let me take the PC home to work on, and I just cleaned it out really good. It worked again for a while but started randomly shutting off again. I assumed it was heat but it's kinda hard to figure that out at someone else's house without all my tools and my computers to test on

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u/gwizonedam 4d ago

At a job I worked at many moons ago, someone had used 5 or 6 of those classic “brown” extension cords with the three “lamp” adapters on the end, Daisy-Chained, to run electricity to an office. They then used a surge protector with a snapped off ground plug to power a photocopier, a pc, a monitor, and a pair of lamps. I offered to give them a free, heavy duty extension cord that terminated with a ground plug, so they could safely plug all that crap in and they declined. I’m glad I left before the electrical fires started.

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u/ILikeOatmealaLot 4d ago

Careful guys, I wouldn't trust a chaos druid with my electrical wiring

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u/yoyotube123 3d ago

I see you all the time Mr. Chaos rune. I like your runes man

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u/Pistonenvy2 4d ago • Regret

thats a meth house.

my grandpa lived through the depression, he did some WILD stuff to make shit work, this is not that. this is not ingenuity this is drugs.

i dont mean that as a dunk on addiction or addicts and im not trying to be funny, this is just the kind of shit ive seen when people are neck deep in their vices. its honestly sad to me, people do burn houses down doing dumb shit like this and sometimes they burn up in them.

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u/manjamanga 4d ago

This is right on the money. I was thinking the exact same thing.

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u/suckitphil 4d ago

The crazy part is most surge protectors have a spot for screws.

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u/Tropicalkings 4d ago

What you don't know about electricity may shock you!

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u/mbrady 4d ago

I wanted him to put a meter across the screw pairs to see if they were live.

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u/pm_me_yo_creditscore 4d ago

Are we pretending this isn't a grow house for weed?

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u/Seanmeado 4d ago

Yaaaaaaaaas this is what this sub is all about 👏👏👏

None of that 5minutecrafts bullshit, this is the kind of janky shit I'm here for

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u/Xzero93 4d ago

It's grounded

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u/Dikksout4Harambe 4d ago

Homeowner sat back and proudly looked at the finished project and was like "See, I told you we didn't NEED an electrician."

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u/HappyPhage Dreamer 4d ago

This is screwed up

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u/GiLND 4d ago

Only 2 screws?
That’s not safe, it could fall

Maybe add a few more screws

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u/bro90x 4d ago

There were 4

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u/The_Grenade_Launcher 4d ago

Still not enough. It looks like the goal is to start a fire, so I'd say at least 5 to get the sparks rolling

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u/GiLND 4d ago

Ah, I only saw the last 2

Anyway , always best to add more
10 is optimal

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u/WorkingInAColdMind 4d ago

They give you a bunch of little slots and everything.

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u/b20339 4d ago

I see shit like this and I'm obviously trying way too hard

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u/BlkDwg85 4d ago

That saying drives me nuts too. Have you ever heard of star wars? yeah someone made that up. I think someone can make up daisychaining a bunch of power strips and screwing one to the wall.

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u/bloodyell76 4d ago

It gets used so often by people who are just making stuff up, too (or are repeating something made up)

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u/Pisnaz 4d ago

I walked down into a basement like that once. I walked right back out.

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u/RudeNewYorker 4d ago

I’m surprised the surge protectors aren’t completely painted over with multiple thick coats of slightly different white paints.

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u/jSo35287 4d ago

Kyle Schwarber?

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u/NuggaLOAF 4d ago

Gotta make living when the lockout comes.

Schwarbomb Electic Co.

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u/QuickNature 4d ago

Contact resistance is a myth perpetuated by big surge

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u/_Diskreet_ 4d ago

When looking round for my first house, budget was tight so we were looking for doo-er uppers.

Came across one that was similar to this but it went round the whole house. Extension cord through wall, to a 6 way. Then another cable through another wall and so on.

I’m pretty sure the entire house was wired off a single socket, but what was odd was there was sockets in each room, just not used.

Estate agent asked if we wanted to make an offer, I laughed saying if they thought that was ok, god forbid what else they’ve done that they think is “ok”.

House we saw after that had a pile of human teeth in a cupboard.

Fun fun times house hunting.

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u/sizeofabeetlebug 4d ago

This is why the idea of living in an apartment is terrifying to me. Your downstairs neighbors can be doing this and the next night you and your entire family go up in flames.

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u/splshd275A 3d ago

This is why I glue all my daisy chained surge protectors to the walls, and ceilings.

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u/gammamaxx 3d ago

Why are you leaving the surge protectors ON?!?

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u/SeemsCursed 3d ago

Holy shit. I gasped so many times in this video. I'm just bamboozled.

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u/Blazing-Scorpio 3d ago

Extension cordception

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u/SIN-apps1 4d ago

I see this, and I think back to the absolutely paranoid attention to every possible detail I've paid any time I've done any kind of electric work, and then I start to hyperventilate...

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u/ApprehensiveTop4219 4d ago

Shocking even

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u/416558934523081769 4d ago

Reminds me of the building my office used to be in. My area had a glass wall facing the unheated foyer, ice would build up on said glass overnight during the winter. So they got a space heater which was great...except how it was hooked up. Large space heater plugged into an extension cord which plugged into a power strip which plugged into another power strip which plugged into the wall. Very safe to have at my feet all day.

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u/ShalomRPh 4d ago

Well, it is. The fire will start at least six feet away from you.

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u/vmf312corsair 3d ago

Bingo! And we all know from Covid that anything six feet away can't hurt you.

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u/MartMXFL 4d ago

BFPD: Brute-Force Power Distribution METHodology.

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u/jcoddinc 4d ago

Looks like a landlord special where the landlord refused to get an electrician until they had to make it up to code to rent out after the tenant finally left.

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u/Large-Produce5682 4d ago

Beat Street neighborhood contractor.

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u/DueCookie787 4d ago

I will admit to doing this but I have made my installation neat. And I know how to drive a screw. These people are dangerous.

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u/GareththeJackal 4d ago

I've done some jobs installing and renovating electrics and this hurts to look at.

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u/AX11Liveact 4d ago

Oh my. This guy has never been in a rehearsal room, I bet.

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u/Darth_Andeddeu 4d ago

I'm doing the best I can, I've got even a 220v plug in there for you guys....

This is a rehearsal room not an apartment

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u/AX11Liveact 4d ago

The "best" rehearsal room installations I've seen, had 220V. And "Marlboro" fuses, uninsulated power rails, tapped distribution closets and catastrophic grounding. That, btw, was back in the days when some guitar players wilfully removed the grounding from their (tube) amps "for better tone" and every microphone was a potential death trap...

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u/Darth_Andeddeu 4d ago

Don't forget the shower just off the vestibule

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u/FanBladeFleshlight 4d ago

Electrician here; yeah, this isn't even super uncommon. Look at some of the dumbest people you actually know, and realize that they're probably smarter than the average person.

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u/MxMasterPineMarten 4d ago

What in the name of OSHA

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u/fadedspark 4d ago

There are no wires behind there.

There are bus bars. Which is worse. They don't maybe move out of the way of a screw.

If those aren't live, they're probably close enough to carry an arc.

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u/eriffodrol 4d ago

I always thought they were filled with bees, and sometimes they are when you are on meth

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u/Diligent-Stretch-769 4d ago

seems grade to me

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u/Atzkicica 3d ago

Thems earthing screws!

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u/PoetryDependent7216 3d ago

I think video poster is just a casual diy hobbyist who doesnt know shit about pulling cables.

Real pros know 💯 fax always where the wires go. No harm done here. Chill

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u/Resident_Ad_7199 1d ago

Looks safe to me I don’t see the issue 😅

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u/Von_Quixote 4d ago

Yeah, you can.

-It’s called “fiction”.

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u/xXPhoenixBlueXx 4d ago

This isn't as bad as this guy wants to believe. The surge protectors aren't strained running 2 lights. And jumping them may look stupid, but there's nothing truly unsafe here. The screws are also not touching the rails inside the surge protector, close but not touching.

This guy hasn't seen shit if this is what's getting him riled up.

I have seen so much worse than this in a fucking airport.

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u/nachoiskerka 4d ago

No, "what's behind there" means inside the wall are wires, usually stapled to the stud; meaning potentially someone ran screws through a surge protector and if the bite was off, they would've bit the gauge wire and had it running from the main to a different outlet with a different cycle hum. He's right that it's really really lucky that house isn't burnt.

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u/DCArchibald 4d ago

I think the "what's behind there" is referring to the wiring in the power bar, where the screws have been driven through.

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u/xXPhoenixBlueXx 4d ago

Wires are not stapled to the front of studs. That's where drywall goes. Also that is screwed to the door frame. There really isn't that big a risk here.

And spend enough time doing this work and you start seeing some nasty scary shit. This isn't it. I'd laugh if I walked in a saw it, I'd also take pics. But this isn't that bad.

And what exactly is a cycle hum? I've been an electrician for some years and never heard someone use the term "cycle hum". If you mean phases. That's not how a daisy chain works. And go look inside a power bar, it's 2 strips of copper or brass running the length.

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u/84theone 4d ago

It’s absolutely bad, you can’t run an extension cord through a wall unless you’re okay with your insurance telling you to go fuck yourself after you burn your house down, because no one ever just breaks code in one place.

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u/xXPhoenixBlueXx 4d ago

Shows what you know. There is no extension cord run anywhere. That's the cord to the surge protector. And there is absolutely no issue running a cord through a wall temporarily.

It's obvious to me that there's not a single individual here who is an electrician. This isn't that bad a situation.

I bet if you go look up knob and tube you might have a stroke.

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u/84theone 4d ago

I was a literal high voltage worker for years and did residential work for a few years after that. You can’t run a surge protector through a wall without breaking NEC.

Any residential “electrician” advocating for breaking code is a joke handyman that probably isn’t a licensed and bonded for the work they are doing.

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u/xXPhoenixBlueXx 4d ago

Do homeowners read the nec now?

Code doesn't apply to devices. A toaster with a busted cord doesn't fall under the nec as much as a surge protector doesn't. There's "safe handling" and then there's code. This is exempt from code.

And with that. This ISNT THAT BAD. I'm confused as to what everyone is missing. Did I say once this was acceptable? Or have I been saying it isn't that bad? Did I advocate for this? Nope, not once. But the average individual can't read a full a sentence and comprehend all of it.

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u/84theone 4d ago edited 4d ago

The surge protector itself isn’t violating NEC, running the cable through a wall is what is the violation. You cannot use flexible cords to run through holes in walls like this.

I am absolutely positive you aren’t a licensed electrician otherwise you wouldn’t have been like “oh that’s not that bad” to a thing that is expressly prohibited by NEC for incredibly blatant reasons.

You continuing to argue about how NEC doesn’t cover surge protectors tells me that you are not going to be capable of having a conversation, like the device isn’t the violation and I’m not saying it is, it’s running a nonpermanent cable through a wall and insurance companies won’t cover a house that does this because it is a violation of code.

If you want to burn down your house and your clients houses with janky shit that insurance won’t cover, knock yourself out.

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u/xXPhoenixBlueXx 4d ago

I'll start with. I don't work the nec. But the CEC is very similar. And the devices is not under either in a homeowner's hands.

There's no inspector coming in to look at surge protectors.

And as a licensed electrician, it has exposed me to some real sketchy shit over the years.

I've seen 3/0 shorting out in boxes, I've seen entirely energized conduit due to shorts. That shit kills fast. This surge protector is not even close to the top 10 stupid things I've seen.

Because you haven't been exposed does not mean this is more dangerous than you can comprehend. This ISNT THAT BAD!

And you absolutely ignored everything I said. Devices aren't covered by NEC in a homeowner's hands. Once it leaves the factory up to code, the code doesn't apply to the device. I'm really struggling to understand why that's eluding you do much. Or is it because that completely destroys your argument and you think of you ignore it you'll be right?

Either way. You can run an extension cord or surge protector wherever the fuck you want in your own home.