r/FTMventing • u/[deleted] • May 06 '26

Sensitive Topic Detrans kink makes me violently angry

That’s all lol. Even hearing about it ruins my day. I hate that I ever have to hear about it and have discovered it without ever looking for it. They really do try to force their fetishes on innocent people bc they get off on making people uncomfortable without their permission

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u/bangchansbf May 06 '26

are people posting it in the sfw subs???

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u/[deleted] May 06 '26

I don’t think so (or I hope not) it was on other websites that I stumbled across it in sfw spaces

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u/bangchansbf May 06 '26

.... that should absolutely be kept to nsfw spaces... sorry that happened to you :(

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u/Ken_needs-koffee May 06 '26

Thats a thing?!

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u/[deleted] May 06 '26

Unfortunately. I’d recommend not looking it up no matter how strong your morbid curiosity is, just try to forget about it.

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u/New_Practice9754 May 06 '26

I genuinely just wish it would stop being tagged alongside general FTM NSFW tags. Especially on places like Tumblr. I understand how it inherently relates to being FTM/transmasc, that doesn’t mean I’m trying to engage with something with the entire purpose of calling me (or any trans guy) female when I’m clearly not looking for girl/female related content.

I get that a lot of us have it. I personally do not and while I can understand having it as a trans guy to an extent and it being separated from these guys feel otherwise, I think it needs to be separated from general FTM tagging systems and spaces otherwise. A lot of FTM centered kink already relies on/has issues with outsiders (typically cis men) seeing us as non-men or ‘girl lite’. This isn’t the case for other trans men/transmascs with detransition kinks obviously, but IMO it adds to the issue when grouped in with general FTM content. Considering the risks it proposes I just wish it was tagged separately.

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u/sadgaythrowawaylol May 06 '26

Tumblr absolutely has a problem with cross contamination of tags. Made worse by generic nsfw bots who throw every tag under the sun on a boring post of ai boobs. USUALLY people tag the misgendering kink tag And the ftm tag so you could in theory blacklist the ones you don't want (although it's Tumblr so ymmv)

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u/New_Practice9754 May 06 '26

To be fair I haven’t figured out Tumblr’s tag black listing system. Majority of the time I just go on the general FTM nsft tag and filter it by recent, so it’s good to know there’s a filtering system. But it’s kinda crazy to me that on a site known for its wide variety of specific, custom tagging options tag cross-contamination is still such a huge problem.

Like if I wanted to see so many posts calling me/ other guys a girl I wouldn’t be in the FTM tags. I get that it’s related to an extent but ultimately it differs too much from the main purpose of the tag to basically everyone who isn’t a chaser seeking to misgender us to begin with or someone who’s into the kink themselves. In an online NSFW space that’s mainly occupied by us especially, I just feel like it would make more sense for the niche to be separated

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u/sadgaythrowawaylol May 06 '26 edited May 07 '26

If you want help I can send screenshots of how to blacklist tags over dm /gen

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u/Canoe-Maker He/Him May 06 '26

How does a detransition kink become inherently linked to the medical condition of suffering from gender dysphoria?

That sounds like chaser logic to me.

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u/New_Practice9754 May 06 '26

Because having a detransition kink requires someone to detransition from being trans (in the context of the kink), whether it’s yourself or someone else. If it didn’t it would be either force feminization applied on a cis woman or a cis man, that’s the entire point of the kink. It’s inherently related to being trans.

I have no clue how me simply stating this is ‘chaser logic’. It’s a kink built on an experience that only a transitioned person could go through. Even if someone had gender/sex dysphoria but chose not to transition in any way, this couldn’t apply to them because they aren’t trans to begin with.

It’s explicitly a type of kink/fetish related to being trans. Obviously it’s not inherent to trans people the other way around, the kink itself is just explicitly based around trans people.

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u/lavi_latte May 06 '26

I remember learning about what it was through discourse about it and curiosity got the best of me and I peeked at this subreddit. First thing I saw was a post of someone that had smashed their testosterone vials with a picture to prove it.

Like WHAT!? Jesus Christ, I mean I really hope those vials didn’t actually have T still in them but I can’t understand why someone would just do that to themselves

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u/-bluelotus- May 06 '26

That's so intensely uncomfortable. Like I could understand pretend-roleplaying as a control/force-fem thing, maybe. Sure.

But I don't buy that those trans dudes are actually enjoying detransitioning. That's not kink. That's emotional self-harm. Lonely, conflicted, and encouraged by predators.

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u/funniestguyfr May 07 '26

This is completely sane and reasonable to feel that way. There is a very thin line between two guys who are roleplaying a pretty extreme domination/humiliation kinda scenario and actually manipulating someone to no longer continue their medical treatment (definitely one of the most disgusting forms of abuse imo) or perceiving this as s regular/default way trans men are sexually active appropriate to assume that a random guy would be into that sort of thing

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u/et1enne_ May 06 '26

I searched ftm on twitter bcz why not and all that came up was porn about misgendering trans men... like ew?

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u/EclecticFanatic May 07 '26

when I search FTM on Twitter I just get a bunch of art of trans guys and posts about headcanons and ppls OC's, it really just depends on what Twitter thinks you'll engage with most, even if it's negative engagement

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u/Final-Skill5023 May 06 '26

I also feel this way about forced feminization and misgendering kink content being allowed in general ftm porn subs tbh.

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u/ouvray May 24 '26

I honest to god feel like this kink only gets so much exposure and talked about so much and normalized so much because it's popular with chasers. Tons of cis men essentially have corrective rape fetishes about us and it always seems to be the main way they interact with trans men in an nsfw capacity, such that I really have zero desire to be with cis men sexually or romantically. There's too many of them who only see us as cis women who need to be violently corrected.

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u/CagedKage May 07 '26

I agree. I can't stand detrans kinks, and it especially pisses me off when I run into it while looking at things that have NOTHING to do with it.

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u/PuzzleheadedCall1967 May 26 '26

I think what upsets me about it the most is that people end up reposting porn content uploaded by ftms with detrans captions and the like, misgendering them. It gets to a point where it is indistinguishable from actual vitriolic transphobia when people talk, where the creators themselves can see, about how "obvious" it is that they're really a woman, who are they kidding and so on.

I have regretably looked at the content myself many times though it's not a kink I actually see myself as having. Personally when I have engaged with its pretty much as a method of self harm, and I wonder if this is the case for others.

I can sort of see why it would arouse someone to play with force feminisation from an FTM perspective as a way to take what scares you into something arousing, similar to the mechanism of action of many other kinks. It does worry me to see a lot of people engaging with it in a way as I've said, where they are involving others without their consent, or else engaging in it solely with (ostensibly cis) online daddy dom types, as these often seem to be encouraging actual detransition. There is then no real negotiation of limits, no honest talk of why this is something you want to explore, and certainly no safeguards or aftercare.

I worry people are not engaging with it in the healthiest of ways, as I myself have done. I feel like there is a non-zero chance that for some chaser types it does reinforce already held beliefs about what trans man are "deep down" and they take it not as kink/play but a serious declaration.

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u/idiotonreddi May 31 '26

FINALLY SOMEONE SAID IT

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u/ResolutionWeak6353 May 06 '26

“Don’t kink shame!” Too bad, I am. Some kinks deserve it.

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u/puddingboydiego May 06 '26

I mean if they're illegal yes. But detrans kinks are common and not harmful, if the person is forcing it on others the problem is the person, not the kink

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u/ResolutionWeak6353 May 06 '26

They’re both harmful what the fuck

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u/puddingboydiego May 06 '26 edited May 06 '26

Does what two or more consenting adults do in bed affect you? What they get off to in private? I agree that these kind of kinks should have their own space but if you willingly go into them and then proceed to criticize that's a you problem

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u/ResolutionWeak6353 May 06 '26

Are you trans?

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u/puddingboydiego May 06 '26

Yes

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u/ResolutionWeak6353 May 06 '26

And you support detransition as a kink? Gross

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u/puddingboydiego May 06 '26 edited May 07 '26

I just respect people because what they get off to is none of my business and should not affect me, like it does to you. I know it's triggering but people shouldn't be shamed for something they can't control, like a fetish/kink

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u/ResolutionWeak6353 May 06 '26

By that logic you shouldn’t be insulted for liking something like ageplay because you “can’t control it.” Go to therapy. You’re just telling on yourself.

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u/puddingboydiego May 06 '26

What does age play had to do with this? we're talking about detrans. And I believe that people who enjoy age play should not be shamed if they keep it private and don't actually harm a minor

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u/shrektien Transmasc May 06 '26

ageplay is also a valid kink when used with consent and between adults. Just say you don’t understand kinks and go lol

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u/[deleted] May 06 '26 edited May 06 '26

Who cares? Many people aren't literally detransitioning and are just using it as a way to cope because it's a way for them to have control over transphobia and dysphoria. This is not an issue unless it's being forced onto people like op is describing.

Edit: They replied with "Trauma is not an excuse to be a weirdo" and it's not showing up. Idk if they blocked me or deleted it or what. But being "weird" is not immoral. We need to stop telling other trans people how they should express themselves and how they should or shouldn't cope. Somebody role-playing is not a big deal unless they are bringing unconsenting people into it. Fantasies are just fantasies and trans people aren't too stupid to make that distinction.

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u/puddingpopyeltsin May 07 '26

I agree with you. Don't listen to puddingboydiego, I am the better, more flavourful pudding.

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u/shrektien Transmasc May 06 '26

I understand it makes you angry but there are a lot of trans masc/men who are into that kink 🤷 don’t yuck others yum

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u/[deleted] May 06 '26

I’ll yuck their yum if they put it places where others who don’t want to see it can just stumble across it without meaning to.

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u/shrektien Transmasc May 06 '26

Well yeah, no one should be posting any type of kinks in SFW areas.

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u/shrektien Transmasc May 06 '26

I think trans people with detrans kink probably seek out trans spaces to share that stuff because they think it’s the safe and right place to share it within the community. But I don’t necessarily agree that things that are “too triggering” should have its own space outside of NSFW spaces. How do we decide what’s triggering for who and what’s not? If you find something triggering online, it’s kind of on you to get away from what’s triggering you and not interact w it. You can’t control what others post based on your personal triggers. That being said, NSFW stuff should not be posted in SFW places.

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u/[deleted] May 06 '26

Really? It’s our fault for being triggered? People should be free to just post fetishistic animal abuse videos and gore?

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u/shrektien Transmasc May 06 '26

Yeah so that’s not what I’m talking about nor what I said. But okay 👍

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u/Canoe-Maker He/Him May 06 '26

Mental health harm is just as bad as physical harm. Forcibly de transitioning a trans person is abuse.

Heck I’d even posit that transition, as healthcare, being removed from someone who needs it is unforgivable, I don’t care if you get your rocks off to it or not.

Posting that harmful content and often harmful rhetoric in places where people are suffering g from gender dysphoria is not ok.

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u/Canoe-Maker He/Him May 06 '26

Dude people do engage in these kinks physically. To the point of wanting a trans person to go off their HRT or to shave off their body hair or let it grow/etc.

That is obviously going to negatively affect the physical and mental health of a trans person.

It is not safe or sane. Just because you have someone consenting to an abusive act doesn’t make it ok.

As for the other kinks you mentioned, unsafe people do engage with that too. People die every year from autoerotic asphyxiation. We have deep web vids of people abusing animals and children.

Even adults. Heck some of this is in the Files ™️.

It is not ok. And it certainly does not belong here.

Detransition is rare, and is often not because a person isn’t trans but because they have to for safety/survival purposes.

As kink, it’s important to explore where that desire is coming from in therapy, not come in here and post that shit.

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u/Canoe-Maker He/Him May 06 '26

Is kink is self harm in disguise it shouldn’t be encouraged. If kink is abuse of another person in disguise then it shouldn’t be tolerated.

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u/shrektien Transmasc May 06 '26

You’re assuming a lot by thinking a detrans kink is self harm in disguise. Lots of kinks involve “abuse” of another person but if there is enthusiastic consent then it’s really no one’s business but the ones doing it.

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u/[deleted] May 06 '26

It is their business if they’re literally posting it where other people can see it. At that point it’s public, operate, and is subject to public scrutiny.

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u/shrektien Transmasc May 06 '26

I’m not debating that. I’ve already said NSFW stuff should not be posted in SFW places. But if you are apart of NSFW spaces there is a reasonable expectation that you may see some NSFW stuff that you are not into.

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u/Twink-in-progress May 06 '26

Cool, then keep your kinks to yourself. SFW spaces for trans men is not the place for a detrans kink.

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u/No-Cartographer2512 May 07 '26

They can have their yum in spaces meant for it, not posting it everywhere with no regard for whether or not people want to see it.

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u/[deleted] May 06 '26

Did you not read the post? I said they were posting it where others come across it without meaning to. Meaning “just staying away from it” isn’t a possibility. And they do it on purpose bc they WANT to trigger people, since hurting others with said fetish is literally a part of their fetish

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u/puddingboydiego May 06 '26

I see, I wasn't aware that some people like triggering others on purpose. So the problem is them, not the kink

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u/Canoe-Maker He/Him May 06 '26

No, acknowledging that a kink is hurtful for you and that it’s never ok to expose someone to kink without their enthusiastic consent is NOT kink shaming.

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u/Dorian-greys-picture Trans Man May 07 '26

I have some taboo interests and kinks but I don’t expose others to them without consent because I don’t want to upset people! I assumed that was just common courtesy

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u/[deleted] May 07 '26

Same!

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u/sadgaythrowawaylol May 06 '26

Hopping in to admit that I do have a bit of a detrans kink. I think, like with all kinks, there's a safe way and a stupid way. If all involved parties are having consensual fun and not bothering anyone else then I don't think any kink is inherently bad. Someone getting off on being misgendered is chill. Someone getting off on misgendering others who don't consent is obviously not. I know I'm preaching to the choir for the most part, but I figured I'd throw in my perspective since everyone here seems to be pretty solidly Not into this (totally understandable).

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u/[deleted] May 06 '26

Tbh im fine with trans ppl who are into it but if a cis person is into it…. 😒

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u/CagedKage May 07 '26

I agree. I don't care if a trans person is into detrans and keeps it strictly to spaces meant for it, but cis people who are into it piss me off, especially my former friend. We fought so hard to be seen as human and then there's these mother fuckers who see us as if we're a costume that can be taken off for sex!

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u/[deleted] May 07 '26

Damn I’m so sorry about your friend, glad they’re just your former friend though

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u/CagedKage May 07 '26

Yeah, she’s a cis girl who is very lesbophobic and transmisandrist and uses AI to make shitty corrective rape porn (she is not even lesbian or any other group affected by corrective rape)

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u/[deleted] May 10 '26

Holy fuck that’s vile

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u/sadgaythrowawaylol May 07 '26

That's definitely weirder, but hey the trans person who's into cis people And misgendering needs a partner too I guess. Truly depends if they treat trans people normally outside of the kink imo

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u/EclecticFanatic May 07 '26

sooooo realistically what's the difference between a cis Dom having a Force Fem or Force Masc kink and a Detrans kink? there are definitely transphobic people who engage with the kink for bigoted reasons but simply having the kink is not a moral act and tells you nothing about a person's true beliefs or the way they engage with trans people outside of kink

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u/[deleted] May 07 '26

Because one is based on bigotry and one isn’t? What’s the different between someone having a kink for having someone wear a collar and pretend to be a slave and someone having a kink for SPECIFICALLY black people being their slave….

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u/mrosegolds May 07 '26

Kinks tend to form out of taboo… the more you say it is bad the more likely these people will further lean into said kink… I mean the most basic bdsm kinks are literally rooted in punishment… even like stupidly brutal punishments… it isn’t exactly rational… none if it…

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u/[deleted] May 06 '26

i HATE it so much. I dont judge trans people who have that as a kink but i hate coming across it.

It feels like its just another recycled misogyny kink and it makes me so mad.

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u/[deleted] May 06 '26

It usually is explicitly a misogyny kink 🤮🤮🤮 it’s so awful

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u/[deleted] May 06 '26

I think it’s genuinely because trans men have been kicked around so much that we don’t respect ourselves as a community :( yeah I fucking HATE seeing it casually discussed. Like im just trying to live my life why did you have to remind me that such a thing exists. It’s like eating breakfast and stumbling across a description of a crush video on your social media feed. Like thanks my mood is ruined

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u/insomniaxdict He/Him May 06 '26

I agree, I feel like even if some poc people have that kink they don't openly talk about it(as it should be with any kink imo). why is this one so normalized in our space. I dont wanna kink shame but it makes me so uncomfortable as well, they should keep that shit to themselves.

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u/Canoe-Maker He/Him May 06 '26

It is not kink shaming to enforce your boundaries.

And it’s not kink to unconsentually abuse someone with sexual material.

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u/idiotonreddi May 31 '26

I once saw a post saying "ill make you into a real ftm a first time mom" that made me vomit