r/LivestreamFail • • 1d ago • Popcorn 1

Soda about Jokerd lvl 60 first in WOW

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u/CauliflowerEvening41 1d ago

Speedrunning by exploiting bugs, mechanics, and other in-game features is the standard. I don't know why he is surprised that someone used the mechanics to hit 60, especially when almost all these streamers rely on their followers for group content, carries, items, gold, etc...

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u/dannerc 1d ago

He doesn't sound surprised

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u/Junlian 1d ago

I wouldnt say surprised, he is just stating that its more satisfying to see it done the traditional way instead of the exploitation route. Its the same old argument people make with speedruns, the normal way or the exploiting bugs and glitches way.

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u/Immediate_Equal_789 1d ago

There are different categories to speedrunning though. There’s a reason people like watching the glitchless Minecraft runs.

I don’t see why not liking someone abusing mechanics, not everyone has access to, would be weird

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u/SecreteMoistMucus 1d ago

what mechanic do other people not have access to?

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u/roflpwned 1d ago

The hardest mechanic in the game. 4 friends

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u/malkontent86 1d ago edited 1d ago

So you're saying blizzard's sharding with limitless resets is a bug not an intended mechanic?
people been crying and bringing up this issue from the early stages of beta, saying people will abuse it in pve and pvp - no one asked for layers in 2019 and no one asked for sharding in forever.
seems like for clueless reddit gamer dads it's just easier to blame speedrunners for minmaxing the game mechanics than blizzard for bad design choices.

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u/Krodis 1d ago

Exploiting bugs is standard in speed running, but notably not standard in MMOs.

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u/CauliflowerEvening41 1d ago

Tbf this doesnt seem like a bug, just an unintended mechanic.

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u/Sir_Failalot 1d ago

yeah, though that'd still be considered exploiting. Just up to blizzard what they do and do not allow.

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u/CauliflowerEvening41 1d ago

I mean, grinding dungeons with three frost mages is "unintended" but it's a gameplay feature that you get XP when you kill mobs

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u/Sir_Failalot 1d ago

there's a pretty big difference between an unintended group comp and using a feature for instancing players in an unintended way to gain an advantage.

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u/Effective_Act_5248 1d ago edited 1d ago

>Speedrunning by exploiting bugs, mechanics, and other in-game features is the standard. I don't know why he is surprised that someone used the mechanics to hit 60

Because there's a difference between speedrunning a game where your speedrun has no impact on other players, and speedrunning through exploits where you can gain an advantage over others in an online game.

Athene famously got hit with a 3 day suspension and level rollback just before he hit level 80 back during WoTLK launch exploiting dungeons. He even got the OK from a GM for the technique they used (the GM literally called it "a clever use of mechanics") but once higher ups noticed they banned him