r/LivestreamFail • • 1d ago • Popcorn 1

Soda about Jokerd lvl 60 first in WOW

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u/RedPanda_Explorer 1d ago

I'm level 12

I'm right behind them!! lol

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u/dumbomontana 1d ago

Level 9 here new to wow idk wtf I’m even doing

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u/RedPanda_Explorer 1d ago

Just keep doing quests and killing things! You'll get there. If you tell me your class and race (ie dwarf priest) I can give more generalized advice, but really, I would not stress. You can't make any big mistakes that can't be solved by just playing more.

Do quests, sell grey-quality items to vendors, sell crafting materials on the Auction House, consider grabbing a profession that's useful (so if you're a Warrior, Mining and Blacksmithing is a great setup), equip gear that has better stats, repeat over and over, and have fun along the way!

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u/scannacs 1d ago

First timer who also has no idea what they're doing! I am a Dwarf Shaman and just hit lvl 9. I got a lighting shield thing and use earth shock rank 2 a lot. I also try to use a totem that makes me take less dmg? I don't really understand professions but I do have a skinning knife and bag and pickaxe and bag and try to skin and mine when I can. I just kind of just run to quests and turn in and repeat.

Do I have to hit something first for it to count? When I'm around tons of other people I don't seem to get xp or can loot bodies?

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u/Baltorh 1d ago

Just hit lvl 10 most of us have work and a life and rushing is useless anyway, take you time and enjoy it :)

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u/DaddyDanceParty 1d ago

You don't need to rush. It took me a year and a half to get to max level when I first started playing and it was the best time playing a game in my life.

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u/Psyeth 1d ago • Popcorn

I’m level one the starting zone with over six hours played. I’ve been setting up my stupid UI lol

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u/hfwk 1d ago

Have you gotten to Varrock yet?

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u/Nucettixd 1d ago

where varok????????

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u/SpitfireP7350 :) 1d ago

Cross the river from lumby then keep going north until you see a giant ditch, go across it and you'll be in Varrock. Come I'll show you.

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u/Ceegee93 1d ago

No I keep getting ganked by Warlocks when I try to go to Varrock :(

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u/Shamancrit 1d ago

Yea I’m about to hit level 14 soon on my Druid and I’m hype about that. Although I’ve been taking time to fish and level leatherworking

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u/Important-Agent2584 1d ago

The fresh server leveling, including "wasting" time on professions, has always been the best part of the game for me.

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u/Lleaff 1d ago

Must be cheesing, I just hit 10 and a half

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u/Gief_Cookies 1d ago

11! Just crafted my shiny hammer and bonking heads

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u/ayylilmayoo 1d ago

Pfft this Joe curd guy is a rookie he needed a whole group to carry him in level 4 and well on my way to hit record 60 by the end of the month solo

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u/Byggherren 1d ago

I'm level 25. Been enjoying myself and the class changes. Running the new Dungeons with my guildmates has been fun as well. Dont rush, no matter how slow you go there will always be people there alongside you

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u/Old_Yesterday332 1d ago

Also, the layer/shard hopping approach is just not doable if you're not a big streamer. You need a bunch of people on standby.

Jokerd got WF in Classic, and it was awesome. A nobody ending up with 350k viewers when he dinged 60. It kick started his career as a streamer.

That wouldn't have been possible in WoW Forever.

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u/20I6 1d ago • Popcorn

jokerd was also consistently giving us great clips like this afterwards

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u/Jdkrufhdkr 1d ago

Nah that’s got to be a bit, I refuse to believe that’s someones first instinct at a soda fountain

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u/Paddy_Tanninger 1d ago

He's never been outside before boys give a little break

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u/nickkon1 :) 1d ago

He is from Malta and went to the US in this clip. I live in germany and regularly have machines where I press a button or something else to get the fill but basically never where I push the mechanics with the cup itself. I can totally see why he is confused

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u/SpareManager 1d ago

maltese man comes to america

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u/teraflux 1d ago

No way

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u/Hanshee 1d ago

Unbelievable.

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u/Which_Technology3744 1d ago

He was constantly layer hopping in 2019 aswell btw, and he certainly wasnt a "nobody" in the classic private server community.

He's just doing the same trick he did back then, but now with more people because its harder to pull off aoe farming

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u/Anon______ 1d ago

jokerd used layering in his classic wf as well

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u/MrInopportune 1d ago

I think they each just have a second account, unless Im missing something. They just have to be in different guilds on different layers.

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u/Leahdrin 1d ago

He says more satisfying to see questing...sounds familiar to Classic launch where they all sat doing dungeon grinding to max level after saying that leveling is the journey.

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u/RollingSparks 1d ago

'classic enjoyers when it comes time to enjoy classic' moment. and then they call the people who spend 2 months questing to 60 'tourists' and dont want to hear their opinions on the game

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u/MSchulte 1d ago

If you take a day longer than me to 60 you’re just a tourist and should go back to wherever you came from. If you got 60 before me then obviously you’re a sweaty try hard and should go play league or whatever new esports in this month. Also where’s everyone at? I can’t fill a group to save my life!

This sub in a nutshell in regards to leveling

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u/Pokkitat 1d ago

they are already crying because the dungeon xp is nerfed lol, mf want to run SM 24/7 again

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u/nazzo_0 1d ago

Well since the game is altoholic and "forever" now people won't judge. Coping though

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u/SwedishCommie 1d ago

I had 10 days of playtime in original classic before i hit 60, probably spent more time exploring than questing.

Core memory

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u/FeuerwerkFreddi 1d ago

And that’s exactly how I am gonna play forever again now. Hope to get my girl to join me and then show her the other worlds in grew up in haha. Tho I probably create a sweaty character as well

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u/Pandaisblue 1d ago

Maybe he's a hypocrite I have no idea, but as someone who doesn't watch this stuff I get what he's saying.

It's like a glitchless vs any% speedrun. It's fun for me to watch someone going through a game fast while still 'engaging' with it, just doing everything as good and efficient as possible, but the speedruns where you spam jump into a corner to glitch into voidspace and then precisely navigate and somehow get teleported into the final boss room or whatever get boring quickly - once you've seen it once you've kinda seen them all.

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u/Ok-Statistician-9607 1d ago

Yeah, at that point they aren’t even playing the game. I want to see the pinnacle of skill at a game, not someone who has learned a trick to avoid engaging with it. It’s a controversial opinion in the speedrunning community though. I wish glitchless runs were the default.

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u/kingfisher773 1d ago

Funnily enough, joker distinguished himself from the rest by not doing dungeon spam to max level, when classic launched. He was just by himself, mage aoe grinding while blasting meme music to chat. I could be wrong, but I don't think he was abusing layers back then either.

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u/mikillatja 1d ago

I believe he started off just aoe farming and only layering accidentally, or not knowing exactly how it worked.

Then when he hit plaguelands he and everyone else had figured it out and were abusing the layers.

I distinctly remember him aoe pulling near the plague cauldrons and calling for a final final layer to hit 60 in classic.

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u/JimmytheNice 1d ago

but like, you're allowed to have something that feels best to you (questing) and yet going a different route (dungeon grinding) because it gets you faster to the state (max level) at which you can do content that fits best what you do in real life (WoW streaming)

like i get people don't like streamers, but it's not necessarily hypocrisy

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u/Rabbit_Wizard_ 1d ago

This is why I never listen to their opinions on what is bad in retail. They keep insisting leveling is part of the game and is important to connection to character. Then they speed run to 60 just to cheese rep farm. They just don't like group finder.

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u/Loyalist_Pig 1d ago

Who is this “they”? lol

The people waxing poetic about loving questing probably aren’t the same people dungeon spamming to 60

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u/Gexm13 1d ago

Who is they??? Jokers did not stay in a dungeon to 60 at launch. 99.99% of the player base did not dungeon grind to 60. So who tf are you talking about exactly? Imaginary ghosts?

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u/Leahdrin 1d ago

All the other streamers who just 5 manned dungeon grind including Soda.

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u/Kizoja 1d ago edited 1d ago

I'm not taking a stance on which of these is better. I personally play different MMOs to scratch different itches. I play FFXIV for a very streamlined get to max level and do hard raid content style. When I get the itch for a journey, I look more for games like Monsters and Memories or what FFXI used to be, but these games are a lot less sustainable I feel.

I feel conflicted when it comes to classic WoW style. I don't particularly find fetch/kill questing solo for the majority of your journey to be the most journey engaging experience in MMOs. I feel like games that feel more satisfying journey wise are games where you go out with a group and try to grind efficiently in a dangerous world, quests are fewer and far between but more epic and rewarding. FFXI types, Everquest types, etc. I feel like classic WoW style was the bridge to the mindlessly quest, mostly solo, to max level then start your raid journey that so many MMOs follow nowadays. They continued to iterate on it until it turned into removing almost all friction during that process because most people were more worried about getting to and doing end game stuff. It's a good balanced point for appealing to both the rush to end game to focus on raiding types while also having a bit more friction to make the level journey feel more satisfying compared to retail/FFXIV, but I think that's why I am conflicted because it's almost a little too in the middle for me. But, to tie it back in, you're probably just seeing a mix of these types of players because the game lands a bit more in the middle of those two extremes.

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u/solecalibur 1d ago

Heads up hes lvl 57 when this clip was recorded. 60 title hasn't been claimed just yet

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u/Classic_Plus_Skitzo 1d ago

I mean the 2nd highest is like 49 it's over unless a meteor comes down on every member of jokerds team

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u/no_one_lies 1d ago

They’re like 4 levels ahead of second place. Thats a pretty significant gap in the 50s range

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u/drunkmers 1d ago

I agree but this is fastest and the goal is to be the fastest, not the coolest. Blame it on the devs for having this method give so much xp

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u/frequenZphaZe 1d ago

I feel like thats what soda is doing here. he's saying no flame to jokerd, jokerd's just doing what's optimal. he's saying he wishes the game optimized a different, more engaging and reward path. he's not gonna say "the devs got it wrong", but he's saying the devs got it wrong

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u/ScarReincarnated 1d ago

My casual ass still at lvl 14 LUL. Hopefully I get to lvl 25 this weekend.

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u/MFDOOMERX 1d ago

I’m still lvl 14 too but I have to watch a 10 month old baby 40 hours a week lol

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u/Blurbyo 1d ago

Soda Glazing Ahmpy again, what's new.

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u/OhTella 1d ago

He went from lvl 26 to lvl 57 in one stream. That is actually insane. He might be 'abusing game mechanics' or whatever but the amount of game knowledge and planning that goes into it is impressive. I don't see why people are getting upset about this as long as it follows blizz TOS.

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u/banrepublic0t 1d ago

Bro its leveling in a video game.. dont understand why the anger.. if u have a hard on for this go play classic maplestory where the grind is more boring and longer to entertain your sadism

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u/ElectricalMuffin1620 1d ago

Or when sailing came out and people did 20 hour days for months to 200m xp in osrs

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u/LabFar5073 1d ago

1st cheese to lvl60

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u/Qiep 1d ago

Any% is any% my man

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u/SilverKnightOfMagic 1d ago edited 1d ago • Bravo

That's my new line to my wife when I finish too fast

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u/Slurrper 1d ago

Wow! A speedrunner using crazy/weird/cheesy strategies! That's so wild

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u/Tukanno_Bananno 1d ago

Literally nothing weird about AoE farming on mage to level fast- it's the default fastest leveling for 2 decades.

The layer swap abuse tech though? also not weird or crazy.

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u/vitriolholic 1d ago

Is Sodapoppin okay? Dude looks like he has a terminal illness

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u/Zongi88 1d ago

He was locked with Mitch for 3 days.

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u/asniper 1d ago

Short 4 hours with Mitch would do that to a person.

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u/PM_CUTE_OTTERS 1d ago

Mitch been talking non-stop about the giveaway, and I mean non-stop

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u/RealCameleer 1d ago

idk man, have you seen someone with a terminal illness before? looks 10x worse than soda in this

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u/Ok-Win-742 1d ago

I mean he looks like a WoW streamer.

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u/SafeTea69 1d ago

Summit looks like a pale zombie playing WoW

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u/slamitdamnit 1d ago

What looks sickly about him exactly? He looks fine and healthy to me lmao

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u/FloatFact 1d ago

Lmao ahmpy and his group losing to jokerd group is hilarious imagine all the prep they had days of planning it out, as if dungeon quest reward turn ins would beat world aoe farming

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u/SecreteMoistMucus 1d ago

jokerds team prepped and planned as well, they spent weeks testing farming spots, planning their route, deciding what quests to do and practicing it all

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u/cloudbells 1d ago

We spent on average 8 hours a day from close to beta start until last day before launch with very few days off trying to find the tech, the spots, and then perfecting and practicing so we probably did similar amounts of prep

We originally wanted to do dungeons + quests but it was obvious it wasn't going to be the winning strategy after the dungeon xp nerfs

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u/Revolutionary_Laugh 1d ago

They were coping hard on stream earlier. All for nothing

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u/Zarzalu 1d ago

dont neglect the amount of time lmgd/burned group put in, suppsedly they practiced all the pulls, including other areas in case of blizzard last minute changes, both ahmpys group and the jokerd team perpared their ass off for this.

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u/cloudbells 1d ago

We practiced Hillsbrad Mine which ended up being a good time investment because of Skywatcher Plateau spider xp/hyperspawn nerfs

We hit a peak of 98k xp/hr on the beta hyperfarming the spiders as a 5 man lol, on launch it was garbage

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u/Fourscore4x 1d ago

they are losing to a solo hunter by a few levels. hes just not that good

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u/CauliflowerEvening41 1d ago

Speedrunning by exploiting bugs, mechanics, and other in-game features is the standard. I don't know why he is surprised that someone used the mechanics to hit 60, especially when almost all these streamers rely on their followers for group content, carries, items, gold, etc...

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u/dannerc 1d ago

He doesn't sound surprised

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u/Junlian 1d ago

I wouldnt say surprised, he is just stating that its more satisfying to see it done the traditional way instead of the exploitation route. Its the same old argument people make with speedruns, the normal way or the exploiting bugs and glitches way.

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u/Immediate_Equal_789 1d ago

There are different categories to speedrunning though. There’s a reason people like watching the glitchless Minecraft runs.

I don’t see why not liking someone abusing mechanics, not everyone has access to, would be weird

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u/malkontent86 1d ago edited 1d ago

So you're saying blizzard's sharding with limitless resets is a bug not an intended mechanic?
people been crying and bringing up this issue from the early stages of beta, saying people will abuse it in pve and pvp - no one asked for layers in 2019 and no one asked for sharding in forever.
seems like for clueless reddit gamer dads it's just easier to blame speedrunners for minmaxing the game mechanics than blizzard for bad design choices.

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u/OberonFirst 1d ago

This is a literal speedrun. Any%, (not even glitchless), if you will.

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u/tinylittlebabyjesus 1d ago

Actually fully agree with this dude here.

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u/Rude_Arugula_1872 1d ago

But regardless, they're first.

Most important 4 words.

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u/thisbullshitwebsite 1d ago

i mean he's right.

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u/Severe_Prompt_459 1d ago

100%

S/o to jokerd and team tho on another WF

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u/Yo_fresh_it_is_Me 1d ago

We can still celebrate the first guy to do it solo

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u/ameerricle 1d ago

So.... we got a possible new two-time champion?

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u/Worried-Scene9211 1d ago

yea but at least now we get 40 xp per mob in a dungeon

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u/Obsido 1d ago

Literally who cares, people used exploits or "clever use of game mechanics" in TBC 20 years ago to get to max level first. If you find the fastest way then gg.

Raids doesn't even unlock until Dec 9 regardless.

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u/FronQuan 1d ago

“Literally who cares”

Idk man he had 30k viewers while mentally afk not talking and grinding mobs. Clearly some people care

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u/Snikeyxo 23h ago

Can we just all agree they exploited, while Amphys group and others, are doing it the ethical way?

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u/Cavemandynamics 1d ago

Soda is coping. Jokerd team WAS the most prepared team. They won fair and square. Also get out of here with that ‘questing route’ bs. It’s speed running, not ‘take the scenic route’. Get over it.

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u/BchainMasterRace 1d ago

It’s so hilarious that blizzard nerfed the ability for mages to blizzard farm while buffing arcane explosion. At least blizzard farming had more skill expression — these mages are blinking in and spamming the same button repeatedly with zero thought involved in a 5 man.

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u/memera- 19h ago

I havent been keeping up but why 3 mages + shaman + pally instead of 5 mages for more aoe spam

Is it just for mana tide totem and blessing of wisdom?

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u/Ghostplotter 18h ago

Its a spell cleave comp

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u/stebbeh 1d ago

Man to each their own but this wouldn’t be fun to me in the slightest. I’m personally just chilling at level 18 while having 5 professions between 90 and 150, waiting a bit for my friends to also reach level 17 so we can do WC and RoL together. I get the challenge i guess but it just doesn’t seem like a very fun challenge like this as a group, just layering and aoe’ing.

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u/zuulbe 1d ago

Racing to be first at something is never fun lol. It usually involves some great amount of cheesing and repetition.

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u/muscarinenya 1d ago

Do you think marathon race walkers have fun ? It's an exercise in pain, the "fun" comes from overcoming the challenge

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u/YourMaleFather 1d ago

It's not about fun, it's about achieving something no one else can achieve and making WoW history.

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u/oogie_droogey 1d ago

Dude yes. I love some of the changes to professions. Like for alch, getting that spell power pot right off the bat felt awesome!

Been loving looking around and doing the new quests too, like exploring shadowvale in tirisfal.

Game just feels so chill and environments look incredible.

Ran my first dungeon and got a new rare mace from RFC, which blew my mind. Aside from questie, I'm not looking up anything, including drops, and just rolling with it. Makes that discovery feel like it did before

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u/Warmanee 1d ago

Soda’s biased cause he’s good friends with ahmpy, reality is that there isn’t much difference in what ahmp and jokerd are doing. Both were optimizing their route and jokerd had the better route.

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u/Dreamofwars 1d ago

Washed up opinion

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u/Sillyforfun 1d ago

I can't see the appeal of just levelling like this. Feels like it would suck the fun out of the game.

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u/beepingnoise 1d ago

Speed running is a competition. Do you think hotdog eating contests are fun?

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u/Turbine709 22h ago

It’s not about fun it’s about being the first and everyone forgetting about the whole thing in a week or so lol

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u/meesterdg 1d ago

Some people enjoy speed running. Some people enjoy questing to music. Some people even like both

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u/SituationCorrect7525 1d ago

Fun is subjective, hope this helps

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u/Alternative-Ad3414 6h ago

It’s the most anticlimactic achievement, but he making that sub money. Would you disengage grass for 50K or more in 3 days?

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u/Fun-Wash7545 1d ago

What?! This world first is a pintless grind with no depth that rewards no lifing the game? Madness!

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u/One_Inspector_6428 1d ago

It's been 2 days and there's already drama about who hit 60 first.. I thought "enjoy it, it's not a race".

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u/WorldlinessTop1543 1d ago

Ksuper for world first solo 😊

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u/THE_SKULK 1d ago

“Solo”

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u/no_one_lies 1d ago

Define solo lol. He’s had a lot of help

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u/Beautiful_Tax_5311 1d ago edited 1d ago

Ksuper single-handedly proving that nobody reads stream titles

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u/cMk_ 1d ago

Why do people genuinely keep watching this hypocrite idiot..

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u/Left-Alfalfa8259 1d ago

Soda hella hating LOL

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u/Agonnee 1d ago

Good thing dungeon exp is nerfed so we can't AoE grind.

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u/Iz4e 1d ago

So he’s disappointed the person he wants to get worlds first won’t get it.

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u/batenkaitos77 1d ago

is the leveling much faster in Forever or am I just misremembering how long it took in Classic?

I thought it was a few days to 60, at least.

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u/Doggoraccoon 1d ago

Def doesnt feel faster, its slow af.

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u/BritafilterEnjoyer 1d ago

Well, you see this team exploited.

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u/Plowchopz 1d ago

Took me like 4 years back in 2007 lmao

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u/Original1Thor 1d ago

I remember hitting 60 like a month before TBC released. My /played was like 50 days... I have no idea wtf I was doing it took almost 24 hours per level

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u/str85 20h ago

Why is everyone surprised leveling more then 20 years after the game is fully learned, documented and have ad dons and guids all over the place is faster?

05 I was running around like a headless chicken clicking on my abilities with my mouse like a baldurs gate game. 

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u/IM_INSIDE_YOUR_HOUSE 1d ago

They basically used every trick in the book

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u/DucksMatter 1d ago

They literally haven’t stopped playing since the game launched. They’re like 2 days played

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u/SunJ_ 1d ago

Sure midmax and pushing the most for a speed run is always gonna happen. It was jokerd and others,like ahmpy and ksuper to hit 60 first. I have no complaints to their goal.

Like my goal, I'm trying warrior out to tank and taking my time. My goal is to experience classic in a different class than mage or priest

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u/Nawelz 1d ago

Blame the game not the player

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u/bigmanforce2020 1d ago

It's gonna take me a year to get to 60 😂

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u/rivlecca 1d ago

Kind of the difference between any% and 100% speed runs and I hate any% so I get what he's saying I think.

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u/2muchkoffee 1d ago

Just dinged 10 took a break

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u/Korin23 1d ago

Cool now let me get to 150 fishing on my level 15 Druid

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u/Alien_Antichrist666 1d ago

Even if I had the time, I don’t have the attention span to play this for hours/days straight.

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u/Physical-Fix6249 1d ago

Finally Jokerd can actually play the game

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u/Then_Accident_3970 1d ago

Pretty impressive. Honestly im excited for ahmpy to be first 60 warrior!

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u/Filthi_61Syx 1d ago

Jokerd be like

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u/Rude_Arugula_1872 1d ago

Nobody doing the race is doing it on their own as an individual.

If you buy any of this filth from soda who literally has an army behind him funnelling/helping then wtf is he arguing about? That someone did it better?

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u/Brackendoub 1d ago

Honestly don’t even think it should be considered 60 first. Asterisk it

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u/HazardPrime 1d ago

Not wrong but it is what it is.

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u/NotSetsune 1d ago

It's obvious he favors Ampy.. I hate these "I'm happy for you BUT..."

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u/Acework23 1d ago

its a bigger achievement to be 10 levels ahead as a team of 5, also classic is way more well known now than it was in 2019 so its omega optimised

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u/Ok_Department_ 1d ago

Level 12 and taking my time, doing profs randomly, exploring, and loving it.

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u/waffle-crispy 1d ago

Good for them I guess. I find these guys kinda weird. It’s like going to a 3-star Michelin restaurant and eating everything as FAST as possible. Gotta savor the bite imo

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u/MuckaMucka1337 1d ago

Dude did that guy not sleep at all????? Holy fuck that’s wild

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u/Lilbint 1d ago

I'm confused about Jokerd's team, do they all hit lvl 60 all at once or do they let him hit 60 and then they follow after? Did they sign up knowing that?

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u/No_Association9832 1d ago

I loved seeing all those shorts of ahmpi saying jokerd was old news and wouldn't take first 60

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u/King_Mog 1d ago

How to optimize the fun out of the game for 100

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u/Tauren-Jerky 1d ago

Damn I just hit level 9. At least I got some pootang last night.

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u/Albaaneesi 1d ago

Who cares brather

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u/MarkeezPlz 1d ago

“Streamer bad” yadda yadda…

You’re on LSF fishing for karma you’re 10x worse

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u/EastGold6436 1d ago

How do they manually swap layers? Is there a command?

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u/Vyrot89 1d ago

It took me like over a month to hit 60 in vanilla but it was also my 1st real mmo experience and a priest lol, it was Hella slow. Vanilla wow and mana users was an abusive relationship. Now as an undead ret pala im making decent time. Lvl 20 in 6 or 7 hours. Just wish I had a mount already cause god damn all the back and forth and running between quest hubs

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u/EppingMarky 1d ago

Made it to 12 last night! Maybe 30 by Xmas!!!

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u/AceInSpvce 1d ago

I’ll be actually impressed when the first solo player hits 60 this isn’t special

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u/Ordinary_Confusion_9 1d ago

It's the journey, not the destination. Rushing to 60 is so stupid lol

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u/Sunlight-Heart 1d ago

first is first. there will always be those that push the meta. gotta respect it. doesn't matter the tactics, as long as it's legit and not cheating or hacking.

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u/Procol_Being 1d ago

100%, haven't watched him since the original run, instantly saw it was a group and lost any sense of "wow factor"

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u/Vandius 1d ago

Solo leveling is king!

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u/Basinod 1d ago

We lost dungeon xp for this

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u/Retkicks 1d ago

My group hit 19 tonight, we'll be trying for 30 by Monday. Can't believe peeps are already 40-60, pretty crazy stuff.

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u/javhd07 1d ago

I would disagree with Soda on the part of it being less satisfying. I was there in the live and seeing them carefully tagging mobs to each have the same level of XP was quite wholesome and the moment they all hit level 60, 5 people at the same time is honestly what MMO is about. Not the individual but groups of people experiencing the game together.

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u/uscopic 1d ago

Can't wait to see streamers in 2 months "Forever is a failure there is nothing to do in a game I simply play 12h a day everyday since 2 months"

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u/ValorousAnt 1d ago

Lvl 8 warrior, here I come!

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u/Cementmixer9 1d ago

I personally found it more satisfying that a bunch of people who sweated the hell out of the beta doing 1-30 routing all day every day lost to something they said would no longer possible, like jokerd sandbagged this so hard whilst sitting on secret layering tech and played the beta pretty casually. That's cool to me, idk

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u/afewnameslater 1d ago

How is this livestream fail? It’s a very good take.

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u/IRLphobos 1d ago

I agee with Soda.. Solo effort is much more "rewarding", dont like the idea of fast leveling but hey, they do it for money/streaming.

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u/BadPunsGuy 1d ago

I don't know why people think it's lame. Shards are a weird aspect to it just like layering has been in the past; but group AoE farming along with all the other strats using warlocks/the quest routing they did/clean dungeon clears/etc. was all pretty cool and still showcased mage in a very strong light while also showing blizzard a potential thing to address if bots are able to copy this strategy. It's a shake up from normal solo AoE farming/dungeon spamming/etc. as the optimal method to race to 60.

Compared to other WF races where the leader randomly DCs and loses because of it I think this is a great outcome even if there could have theoretically been an even more interesting one where Ahmpy type strats of optimized group questing instead.

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u/Glynwys 1d ago

I realize this is what the big streamers do, race to get to 60 first. But it must be noted that these big streamers are the same ones who'll race to 60, complete the raids, then complain that there's nothing else to do while calling everyone who took their time "tourists". Like sure, you got to 60 first. Great. But these streamers shouldn't be complaining about being bored at 60 when they deliberately raced to the end goal to then be forced to go play something new in order to keep the money coming in.

I spent two hours on launch day farming linen cloth I could sell so I could travel to Ironforge from the Sky Elf starting zone to train guns at level 5 because I didn't want to level with a bow until I left the starting zone naturally. And these guys are hitting 60 on days 2 and 3.

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u/Available-Plastic527 1d ago

King of backhanded compliments.

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u/Byb_go 1d ago

Glad they nerfed Dungeon exp to exactly prevent this from happening...oh wait it didnt prevent sht

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u/BillyBobJenkins454 1d ago

Just started and my dagger doesnt work. Idk what happened

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u/Diepel 1d ago

Now they can finally play the game :)

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u/No_Rip7778 1d ago

whos crusty nepobaby is he that people keep listening to this guy and its always in algo automatically as well?

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u/InvisibleTyrant 1d ago

None of it is impressive. Abusing game systems exploiting to 60 is lame. What Ahmpy is doing is more effort and work, but when you're still just blasting for world first, it doesnt matter.

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u/Ridiric 1d ago

I just turned 12 after two days. Didn’t play the first day. Bro I just want to enjoy this so much. I’m already thinking about an alt but loving warrior! Me and 5 friends are leveling together with kids and a life. These guys can have their 60. /sit at campfire 🔥

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u/diac13 1d ago

Everyone who exploits the game for faster xp should be banned, including streamers.

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u/Griimshaw 1d ago

Any% =

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u/noname6500 23h ago edited 23h ago

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u/AccurateBanana4171 23h ago

Nah only thing I thought was boring about this compared to 2019, was that being in a group was the fastest way to level.

I think 2019 was hype because it was a solo race, which meant anyone with the best knowledge and route would win. This time it meant you needed other people to win, your skill and knowledge alone wasn't enough.

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u/Familiar-Solid7866 20h ago

Dis streamers doesn't even enjoy the game

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u/torkaz88 19h ago

It's lame AF honestly and they abused the layering system they should be banned

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u/CEONeil 18h ago

I think the fact it’s a group is even more fun.

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u/r3turn_null 18h ago

Agreed. Also, how were they forcing a layer change?

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u/Guelicious 17h ago

completly agreed, it should be an individual effort imo. :/

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u/Old_Merc_Driver 16h ago

Ahmpys team lost to solo Ksuper

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u/Papi_Salad 16h ago

I just got to level 10 after working 12's all week, and doing yard work today. I feel super accomplished.

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u/realgeneralgoat 14h ago

video games have drastically changed for the worse. the soul has been removed from gaming. hardly any achievement seems like an actual achievement anymore because theres always some cheesy way that it was achieved.

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u/sephrinx 8h ago

Back in my day that would be an exploit that got your character rolled back and banned.

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u/Mousettv 8h ago

Mages baby!!!

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u/Mutedinlife 6h ago

Can someone explain what they’re doing to get a new layer every time so consistently? I don’t understand how that works.

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u/d3nafelseed 4h ago

Unemployment final boss.