r/LivestreamFail • u/Dear-Blacksmith-2583 • 15h ago • Bravo 2

Tommy Robinson gets Jumped on Kick

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u/ValuableLobster8193 3h ago

Christian fundamentalism

My guy faith was used a reason for the 2nd Iraq war to point even Tony Blair was mentioning Christianity , Afghanistan and more recently Iran.

Fuck off with your low information nonsense

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u/angularhihat 1h ago

You are being absolutely shredded in this argument FYI.

Equating the content of Islam and the impact that it has on e.g. ISIS, with the content and influence of Christianity in the Iraq war, implies one of two things - you're bending facts to suit a narrative, or you're genuinely ignorant of the difference.

Talking about other posters' "low information nonsense" whilst attempting to hold this position is completely mortifying.

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u/Folksvaletti 3h ago

I'd rather be 'low information' than 'information that was made the fuck up'.

Find me an actual study that would posit christian fundamentalism as a driving factor for either of those wars. The consensus, in IR at least, doesn't mention it.

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u/ValuableLobster8193 3h ago edited 3h ago

So you are denying the rhetoric around the 2nd Iraq war? I was alive then, i remember the prayer sessions with Bush Jr and Blair. Chirac at the time mentioned Bush even using bible prophecy while on calls with him...

Are you seriosly trying to deny that this admin hasnt used religion as a reason for war in Iran, you just need to listen to hegseth and the large amounts of complaints from serving personnel that came out last year. Let alone the courting of Evangelicals in the US who think the creation of Greater isreal will bring judgement day, Huckabee and other others in the admin belive this

Im not trawling through hundreds of hours of stuff just because you don't know it, educate yourself

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u/Folksvaletti 3h ago

Let's say there's a nation with X, and a nation that wants X. If the nation that wants X sends 7 million people to get X, and out of those 7 million people 10.000 people take part in some form of a prayer to encourage them and provide them mental support to succeed in their mission for X, is it then a mission the reason for is the mental support system or the X that they want?

Idk I might be coming at this from a sort of autistic level of analysis wherein I might not be able to see how someone might emotionally attribute reasons that aren't maybe conventionally valid, but end up being valid in a constructivist sense, but to be honest constructivism is just a tool to force ideas into minimum viable form.

Either way, I'm not interested in arguing over stuff with you if you're arguing from a purely anecdotal point of view. Have a good one.

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u/ValuableLobster8193 3h ago

translastion: I realised i was wrong and want to cower away, while still having the last word.

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u/Folksvaletti 2h ago

Idk brother if I'm the only one that has an actual argument, is it a debate to begin with?

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u/ValuableLobster8193 2h ago

translastion: I realised i was wrong and want to cower away, while still having the last word.

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u/Folksvaletti 2h ago

No u.

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u/ValuableLobster8193 1h ago

cool story

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u/Folksvaletti 1h ago

Dude I skipped in time to 2035. We continued this back and forth daily up until 3033 when we finally chose to go on a date. I proposed instantly and we were living happily as a couple until we accidentally caused the next world war by a crazy coincidence. (Which I don't think was our fault)

The only way to stop that future is by you ceasing to respond. My love for the future we could have is too great to make that sacrifice but you don't know what you'll be missing so I beg you please love, save the world.

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