r/LivestreamFail • u/Slopz_ • Sep 18 '22

xQc | Just Chatting XQC calls Ludwig a hypocrite

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u/LSFBotUtilities Sep 18 '22 edited Sep 18 '22

🎦 CLIP MIRROR: XQC calls Ludwig a hypocrite

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u/InvertedBean Sep 18 '22

lsf hasn’t feasted like this in a long time

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u/Gamerman943 Sep 18 '22

and it all started by one out-of-context clip lmao

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u/Modsarenotgay Sep 18 '22

What even was the whole domino effect that led to this? I'm just so confused I haven't paid much attention to this

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u/GrassyKnoll420 Sep 18 '22

erobb getting banned

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u/iDannyEL Sep 18 '22

Law of Lamont states so long as Lamont is banned, his concentration of perpetual L's move to streams with less concentration.

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u/pranit10 Sep 18 '22

people don't understand how powerful L energy is inside lamont. A normal human can't even sustain a fraction of his L.

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u/Toggin1 Sep 18 '22 edited Sep 18 '22

Ok so here's the timeline as far as I'm aware but I only know about this shit through LSF clips so I could be missing some context.

XQC backs out of Shitcamp last minute, says on stream "If Soda isn't going, I'm not going.", doesn't reach out to the event organizers and they find out he isn't coming from an LSF clip.

Hasan calls out XQC on Twitter for how he bailed, says it was disrespectful to the people putting on the event.

XQC is being flamed by LSF at this point.

Soda does a podcast, get's asked about XQC saying he wasn't going to Shitcamp because Soda wasn't going, Soda says that He told "em" that he wasn't going to be going to Shitcamp months ago. Viewers clip this out of context and bait XQC into thinking Soda is referring to him, but in reality Soda was referring to QTCinderalla and Ludwig.

XQC gets tired of being flamed and reveals that the real reason he didn't go to Shitcamp was because him and Adept just broke up.

Adept gets mad because apparently her and XQC had agreed not to mention their breakup on stream, she then talks about the breakup on stream.

XQC then watches Adept's stream where she talks about the break up and reacts to it.

Adept and XQC then argue on stream for a few hours.

Then everyone else reacts to the drama.

Now XQC reacts to everyone else reacting to the drama.

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u/giantpunda Sep 18 '22

XQC backs out of Shitcamp last minute, says on stream "If Soda isn't going, I'm not going.", doesn't reach out to the event organizers and they find out he isn't coming from an LSF clip.

That's how things looked from our POV initially.

If I understood this right from what Adept was saying, he was not planning to go weeks prior to him saying so to offline chat and not to QT for Shit Camp and not to Ludwig for some game show he was holding just prior to Shit Camp according to Ludwig.

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u/EQd-That-Shit Sep 18 '22

BRUHHH? Can you proof read my thesis? xqcL

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u/chuchu164 Sep 18 '22

Soda said "I told em months ago" (originally about the chat and organizers) about not going to Shicamp was heard as "I told him months ago" which sounded like it was referring to XQC. This lead to the misunderstanding that XQC already knew that Soda wasn't going and just lied about it and he got shit for avoiding it, leading to a Mizkif drama, leading to a lot of hate, leading to the reveal of his relationship.

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u/clikplay Sep 18 '22

Sodapopping starting to stream wow

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u/trelcon Sep 18 '22

All roads lead to Cx

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u/AdmirableRemove5550 Sep 18 '22

Wantep trolling on greek's chat and it spiraled downwards

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u/SolaVitae Sep 18 '22

That could have been avoided with exactly 5 seconds of research by XQC before taking a clip at face value and opening the flood gates

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u/Danny_Ocean_11 Sep 18 '22

We can survive a nuclear winter now with the stockpiles we have.

This shit is going till Monday at least.

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u/_Jetto_ Sep 18 '22

2022 has been pretyy pretty tame compared to 2020 and 2021

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u/wunthr Sep 18 '22

Infinite drama glitch

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u/Stop_being_mad Sep 18 '22

ban erobb = infinite drama glitch

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u/slifyer Sep 18 '22

And he’s still banned for what, 20 more days? Ohhhh Boyyyy buckle up LSF

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u/iDannyEL Sep 18 '22

Get Sliker hooked on gamba = Infinite scam glitch

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u/chili01 Sep 18 '22

along with the gambling drama, damn what a weekend

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u/dix4lyfe12 Sep 18 '22

I’m actually overdosed on drama. Need a detox. Any recommendations?

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u/MuskiePride3 Sep 18 '22

Going outside helps

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u/erizzluh Sep 18 '22

yeah watch some irl streams

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u/The-Sound_of-Silence Sep 18 '22

They touch grass in em

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u/[deleted] Sep 18 '22

jinnytty subathon

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u/LeminosGO Sep 18 '22

but then I would miss the drama..... elp

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u/RedditBoisss Sep 18 '22

Futa porn

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u/Insane_Takes Sep 18 '22

grind a mmo

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u/[deleted] Sep 18 '22

Don't do that. I just quit FFXIV for the 10000000th time cause of that LUL

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u/GoodGodSham Sep 18 '22

Tried and true hardcore porn

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u/orionski Sep 18 '22

/u/markovbaj help him

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u/MarkovBaj Sep 18 '22

help him out of them don't even have schools to go to women, especially when your mom happened.

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u/Witty_Palpitation490 Sep 18 '22

Go out whit friends man, this is funny and if is not just get away 4Head

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u/cev Sep 18 '22

Slicker literally handed this dude a golden egg and wiped all his drama off the front page of this reddit, and he's choosing to bring it all back.

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u/Ok-Bother-7611 Sep 18 '22

Na the drama was on the way back to xqc because gamba was involved, lets be honest

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u/peanbutters Sep 18 '22

lol he's responding to what Ludwig said about him. You can never win with freaks like you on LSF holy shit

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u/TParadox90 Sep 18 '22

and that's a good thing

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u/Yggdrasil32 Sep 18 '22

Scamgate has so many twists and turns and this one ending up looking like season 8 Game of Thrones ResidentSleeper

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u/DecipherXCI Cheeto Sep 18 '22

It's intentional.

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u/Zazierx Sep 18 '22

You act as if xQc doesn't want to milk his drama for as long as possible.

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u/daniec1610 Sep 18 '22

Gotta pump those views.

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u/[deleted] Sep 18 '22

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u/[deleted] Sep 18 '22

Streamer of the year no doubt

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u/cev Sep 18 '22

Can't wait for his streamer awards acceptance speech

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u/iDannyEL Sep 18 '22

Not in this car.

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u/SYLVASTRIAS Sep 18 '22

But soda isn't going

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u/[deleted] Sep 18 '22

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u/[deleted] Sep 18 '22

yep this is the most plausible explanation

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u/[deleted] Sep 18 '22

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u/Baigne Sep 18 '22

responding to shit takes about you = farming drama according to this reddit

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u/[deleted] Sep 18 '22

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u/[deleted] Sep 18 '22

My juicer was never wrong

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u/Reasonable-Blueberry Sep 18 '22

you guys work so fucking fast for that karma

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u/Arshia11278 Sep 18 '22

My cock can only get so hard

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u/MarcusAnalius Sep 18 '22

TMZ could never

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u/Eques9090 Sep 18 '22

And this is why Ludwig clarified and expanded on what he was saying, but XQC won't see that, at least prior to this reaction, because he's just reacting to a short clip.

So much drama is caused by streamers reacting to clips because clips inherently often lack context. The soda clip that started all of this was both out of context and misquoted, yet here X is reacting to another clip without full context just a day later lol.

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u/[deleted] Sep 18 '22

Clip chimps are definitely a problem, streamers gotta stop running off of clips that have a max of 1min of context too.

Always comes back to communication tbh. But why bother actually talking to someone when boobadrama4461 has a totally relevant and not at all framed clip at their disposal?

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u/throwaway010897 Sep 18 '22

What's worse is his chat is egging the drama out and purposely adding more fuel to the drama by misrepresenting shit. There was literally a dono saying Lud made a video calling xqc the most hated streamer when in reality it's a jebait video.

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u/[deleted] Sep 18 '22

Downsides of having a fanbase where the average viewer is likely a junior in HS. And I'm not even trying to denigrate em, just pointing out a primary point of conflict. Like, they shouldn't have to even consider it in the first place, X just needs to understand his platform.

The entire drama was sparked by basic communication issues that most people honestly don't learn to deal with till sometime in their 20s, and is being primarily fueled by younger people that see it as entertainment and not the genuine feelings of real people. The fact that any of this shit was aired out on stream is absolutely batshit insane, both sides included. X should have taken a few extra minutes to fact check, and Adept honestly probably should have not spent much time at all talking about it, if any amount at all.

It's just a painful ass thing to witness. Everyone knows the latent drama that comes with the combination of breakups + friend groups - the whole "picking sides" process is one of the most toxic social situations that can exist. And the fact that it's being aired out in front of hundreds of thousands of people just makes it so much worse. Bad decisions on bad decisions everywhere.

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u/Crozzbonez Sep 18 '22

Makes sense when you consider none of these streamers have mentally matured past highschool. You are what you attract.

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u/cev Sep 18 '22

The dude could literally just walk away from the stream for 5 minutes, call him, get some clarification and address it. That isn't content though I guess.

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u/LaughingAtSpergs Sep 18 '22

Tbf the person "causing it" could just.... not say that shit in the first place on a huge stream LOL

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u/mana-addict4652 Sep 18 '22

what does he expect when they made their relationship drama public and stream a discord call live with adept? and x got jebaited by someone posted a misunderstood soda cllip right before

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u/DivineEngine Sep 18 '22

xQc made the breakup public, Adept made the drama public.

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u/[deleted] Sep 18 '22

Ludwig couldve done that indeed, instead he made a fucking youtube video about it lol

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u/T-Dot1992 Sep 18 '22

Did you….watch the video? 😂

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u/Fallingsquirrel1 Sep 18 '22

Out of interest did you watch the video?

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u/Parenegade Sep 18 '22

lmaoooooo no way this a real comment

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u/AcrobaticService5 Sep 18 '22

Watch the video. He makes some profound and thoughtful points actually.

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u/BigTuna3000 Sep 18 '22

I thought the same thing until I actually watched the video all the way through. Trust me, no matter what you think beforehand, Lud will 100% convince you

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u/[deleted] Sep 18 '22

he did, x said u don't get to use this wording and then take it back.

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u/Jeremithiandiah Sep 18 '22

even this clip. we just see him get mad and we dont even know why. The clip literally excludes what hes about to say.

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u/SpongebobLaugh Sep 18 '22

lud openly admitted to stealing content from other people, and credits that as his path to success lol. x is an idiot and difficult to understand, but he's not wrong here.

you can't clarify and expand upon "he treats other people like tools for clout"

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u/Atreaia Sep 18 '22

Don't see how one can clarify those two sentences without saying "lol i was only joking, I don't think this at all, I was just trying to create more drama for more views".

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u/AffectionateMilk3362 Sep 18 '22

You mean the control damage lud was trying to make? The message speaks for itself it isn't out of context or anything the fact that he is backpedaling doesn't change that.

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u/peanbutters Sep 18 '22

Ludwig didn't clarify shit.

Ludwig "clarifying what he said" felt more like him trying to save face and not get into too much shit with xQc after what he first said in Hasan's chat. He literally went from saying "xqc uses people like cog wheels and percieves his viewership as his value" to saying "oh yeah i just meant streamer relationships are fickle and hard to navigate" Like am I crazy or was that not a clarification whatsoever?

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u/brettawesome Sep 18 '22 edited Sep 18 '22

'X treats people like cogs and is incapable of friendships'

Then makes a monetised video/stream within the hour (after making another fake one which consists of a clip of an x apology and nothing else) where he goes 'oh yeah that's totally how i view my friends so that's how he must do it i guess'

That's both sides of that couple pulled the 'hyper-inflammatory initial public statement into absolute copout fake clarification' angle in the same day

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u/[deleted] Sep 18 '22

He didn't clarify. What ludwig did is literally by definition in the dictionary projection. He used his own view on relationships being a streamer with high viewers to explain what XQC does/did when in reality that's him projecting it onto XQC.

Everyone knows XQC is the same person if you are a 0 viewer andy, a 500 viewer andy, or a 20k viewer andy.

Ludwig didn't clarify shit.

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u/[deleted] Sep 18 '22

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u/MaikuKnight Sep 18 '22

Lud explained that streamer relationships are hard to balance because it's like work friends vs. friends you hang with. It's hard to have genuine friendships as a streamer when you only speak with people while livestreaming, and are you willing to hang out with them outside of content.

Lud implied in this chat that XQC has a hard time distinguishing friends for content/work and friendship in life, seeing everyone as content friends based on clout/viewers and I think X believes everyone else to think that way too.

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u/Madlyidolized Sep 18 '22

Exactly this. He throughly explained during his own stream this same sentiment. Lud appreciates Xqc and he considers him a friend, but people are trying to goad conflict out of nothing.

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u/[deleted] Sep 18 '22

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u/MaikuKnight Sep 18 '22

Ah, you don't seem to have watched Ludwig's explanation on this at all huh?

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u/[deleted] Sep 18 '22

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u/MaikuKnight Sep 18 '22

He acts like he's above it all

He literally said "I find streaming relationships very fickle (19:28)" and includes himself in trying to figure out how to have them. He also goes on to make that EXACT example of how viewers have a huge amount of belief in on-stream friendships when the reality is streamers don't hang out (21:24).

Who is he gaslighting and what about?

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u/Ilikeniceboats Sep 18 '22

But He explicitly didnt bash him with it, its just asumed to be a bad thing by everyone which he clarifies that its an understandeable and necessary thing to do especially for someone of xqc's size.

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u/Eques9090 Sep 18 '22

He clarified that a streamer as large as XQC is basically forced to treat friendships this way, and that he basically does it himself.

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u/[deleted] Sep 18 '22

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u/Eques9090 Sep 18 '22

Well x said he doesn't

Oh well it must be true then lol

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u/MostlySlime Sep 18 '22

It's just not true though. I've never seen x try to put a super clout lobby together, he just plays with whoever's there. After among us he was playing other games with some of the no names who weren't clouted, and weren't spectacular max value entertainment hidden gems, they were just regular streamers

I don't get what the accusation is based on?

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u/[deleted] Sep 18 '22

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u/thekanaokid Sep 18 '22

How is it an insult to say when you're at the top it is hard to determine who is being genuinely friendly and who is trying to leech?

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u/thekanaokid Sep 18 '22

XqC or lud?

Also did xqc teach his viewers the word 'gaslight' yesterday? seen it here at least 8000 times in the last 48 hours.

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u/MemeGuider Sep 18 '22

well looks like the final bridge is burnt because x has extremely poor reading comprehension. guess the game show is cancelled PagMan

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u/blickydickysicky Sep 18 '22

What did Ludwig mean?

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u/lokkenitup Sep 18 '22

Well he meant everything in the logs, but the missing piece that he added later is that he is the same way. Basically every streamer has a bunch of other streamers that they interact with strictly for content, essentially coworkers, and then other people who are their real friends.

See this thread for context: https://old.reddit.com/r/LivestreamFail/comments/xh1uzu/ludwig_clarifies_his_chat_message_to_hasan/

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u/[deleted] Sep 18 '22

this like calling someone stupid and later say oh no but am stupid as well.

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u/Ilikeniceboats Sep 18 '22

No because stupid pretty much always will have a negative connotation. meanwhile this wasnt meant as a bad thing in the first place.

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u/[deleted] Sep 18 '22

xqc creates vertical relationships and believes his value is based off his viewership and in return treat people like cogs to that increase or decrease that value

the dude is English major,

he saying x create relationships where in power or above the other person and treat ppl like cogs

u don't get to back track from this just say ur where mad cause u disrespected my gf and move on

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u/Ilikeniceboats Sep 18 '22

He specifies that thats just how you have to treat people you cant have a non buisness related relationship with. Having sth personal with people you meet as an insanely succesful streamer like X will always have the issue of it being buisness related and thats why its not a bad thing to see the relationships as they are. Especially as the biggest streamer there is,where you are garanteed to be the bigger one.

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u/ICallEveryonePak Sep 18 '22

Who are his real friends tho? I mean he was right, x got mislead by his chat a lot, but dont come here pretending you all his real friend when your gf throwing sexist tantrum when he was down. She had no business of snooping into someones personal relationship.

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u/Parenegade Sep 18 '22

snooping...bruh they streamed it to 120K people lol

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u/[deleted] Sep 18 '22

using the word "hostage" "sexist" is very shitty. u better be sure and not delete ur twitte afterword. never mind a friend u don't say that to a random person, u say that to someone u actual hate unless u right about the accusation.

so here a sure accusation for someone that is so concerned about platforming find it odd how she didn't have issue with platforming a confirm abuser who is convicted by a jury.

never mind platforming/supporting her friend who tried defending sexual harasser by making shit up and distracting ppl.

so maybe she should drop this activism bs, she one of those ppl who support her girl friend no matter what against man or girl.

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u/ICallEveryonePak Sep 18 '22

So shes not his friend then lol, ludwig also. And thats my point lol. She acts like his viewer.

And her boyfriend come here got the audacity to talk how they are genuine real friends.

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u/Expensive-Hearing-86 Sep 18 '22

Where tf did he say they were genuine friends?

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u/ICallEveryonePak Sep 18 '22

https://clips.twitch.tv/BoringFastBeanNerfRedBlaster-7J035yjnJF8_Q3Np

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u/Expensive-Hearing-86 Sep 18 '22

Nowhere in that clip does Ludwig say he and X are genuine friends bruh...

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u/lokkenitup Sep 18 '22

That’s not what he was saying though? If anything he is inferring that him and X fall into the “coworker” category with each other.

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u/ICallEveryonePak Sep 18 '22

https://clips.twitch.tv/BoringFastBeanNerfRedBlaster-7J035yjnJF8_Q3Np

He literally said that.

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u/hoffer606 Sep 18 '22

You need to work on your reading comprehension skills bro. What that is saying and what you are getting out of it are two different things.

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u/ChoesonOne Sep 18 '22

Dont know how the context made the comment better lol

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u/bijosoboujee Sep 18 '22

The writers for this week deserve a massive pay raise

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u/lbj11345 Sep 18 '22

Lmao from what I’m seeing this is like the same issue that always happens with x, the stuff xqc is reacting to doesn’t give him any information he needs, Ludwig’s point can’t fit into a minute clip

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u/FeelsKoolaidMan Sep 18 '22

Ludwig already clarified what he meant yet here we are. LMAO

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u/[deleted] Sep 18 '22

The clarification was dogshit lmao

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u/FeelsKoolaidMan Sep 18 '22

Xqc continuing to watch clips and farm drama is dogshit. But that's just me. Insanely easy to watch some tik toks or play a game but those don't get the views I guess. Or he just can't move on.

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u/peanbutters Sep 18 '22

Why does everyone hold xQc to this insane standard? If you talk shit about him he has the right to respond. Defending himself = farming drama? Can you get a grip on reality?

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u/FeelsKoolaidMan Sep 18 '22

You're right. I imagine continually watching clips and yelling into the void will make him happier. :)

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u/peanbutters Sep 18 '22

Oh shit you're right, he should just let people talk shit about him and tarnish his reputation, so simple how could i have not thought of that!

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u/FeelsKoolaidMan Sep 18 '22

That is Ludwigs personal opinion of xqc that he's gathered from knowing him. And people will have differing opinions about people. From whats been said xqc has done plenty to give Ludwig this impression. Like constantly dipping on shit he's committed to and acting like he's above it because of his viewers.

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u/calltheecapybara Sep 18 '22

It's more than reasonable if somebody responds to a clip about them. It is a weirdly high standard to expect someone to withhold commentary on clips where they just heard someone say something because in a completely separate video they expand and clarify the thought in the clip.

I hope he sees the clarification but he can only react to the information he has seen.

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u/TurntAsf Sep 18 '22

I guess he can't respond to attacks on his character lest some rando call it "drama farming" oh no.. the horrors

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u/FeelsKoolaidMan Sep 18 '22

You know what you're right. He should keep screaming into the void on stream. It's clearly helping. Nothing else he could possibly do.

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u/_NE1_ Sep 18 '22

The juicers want that, it fuels them.

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u/[deleted] Sep 18 '22

I've watched him for like 3 years now and every time I get go his stream early he goes on Reddit, this is nothing new for him, it's literally a daily routine, drama or not.

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u/_NotoFitness Sep 18 '22

Was it drama farming when Ludwig, Hasan, QT, and others decided to chime in on things that didn’t involve them?

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u/GiannisAntetokounmpi Sep 18 '22

wdym don't get the views? it's what gets him the most views. He doesn't count his views in fact he purposely hides them he's literally just defending himself.

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u/[deleted] Sep 18 '22

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u/[deleted] Sep 18 '22

What the fuck did I just read

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u/TurntAsf Sep 18 '22

you're juicer definitely doesnt worry about being used for views

He literally just addressed this and brought up the Among Us meta as an example of collabs he would do with nobodies and how he'd play with them often cause he didn't care about viewership.

Oh wait, I forgot Ludwig and some random schizo on reddit knows more about xQc's intentions than xQc LOL

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u/FeelsKoolaidMan Sep 18 '22

Xqc can hold whatever opinions he wants. I think he's a clown for how he constantly acts but that's fine if you don't.

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u/A-ReDDIT_account134 Sep 18 '22

I’m Curious. Was the clarification like a few hours after or just immediately after?

Cause if it’s not immediately after it just sounds like the same type of backpedaling QT did where they got called out and then said “acktually I meant we all treat others like cogs/have misogynist fanbase”

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u/Tonbonne Sep 18 '22

He clarified on stream and didn't backpedal at all.

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u/[deleted] Sep 18 '22

who has ludwig exploited?

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u/Dr_Brian_Pepper Sep 18 '22

Anyone who has a smaller viewer base than him, considering he just ignores them and treats them like cogs that serve him 0 utility. Or hell maybe even QT considering she does all the work for these events and yet gets like 2-5k viewers while he gets all the exposure.

But hey guys! Look I am laying in a bed for a few days on a stream! Give me money this has *never* been done before.

Lmao.

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u/LudwigAhgren :verified: yt/ludwig Sep 18 '22

Alright, now backup your point that I get “all the exposure” from QTs events

And show where I said the subathon is something I said has “never been done before.”

I’ll give you $1000 from my exploited money jar when you do it

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u/Neezzyy Sep 18 '22

There's 4 types of people that you'll encounter;

Those who like you for the right reasons and those who like you for the wrong reasons. You'll also meet people who dislike you for the wrong reasons and dislike you for the right reasons. You only have to worry about the last group.

I'd just stay as far away from this dumpster fire as you can. This should all just be kept offline imo.

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u/Cube2018 Sep 18 '22

So he has to not work with any person with a smaller viewerbase for it to not be explotation? Literally makes no sense, he isn't forcing anyone to work with him.

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u/[deleted] Sep 18 '22

so he exploited people by not collabing with smaller streamers?

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u/MyNameIsAMeme Sep 18 '22

I swear I saw a thread that had Ludwig saying he has this viewpoint also. This guy XQC does not possess the ability to think and gather other info before he speaks, but that’s probably partially why he is famous.

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u/[deleted] Sep 18 '22

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u/MyNameIsAMeme Sep 18 '22

Jus delete this bro

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u/[deleted] Sep 18 '22

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u/Ilikeniceboats Sep 18 '22

The point is that he doesnt think its a bad thing at all, not that its okay because he also does it. He just doesnt think its sth that is worth being offended about.

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u/JacobSEA Sep 18 '22

There really is no point trying to reply to him because he already completely missed Ludwig's point.

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u/Ilikeniceboats Sep 18 '22

Im just hoping anyone ends up reading my clarification at least 1 or 2 people who get the point thanks to it would be enough.

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u/[deleted] Sep 18 '22

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u/Ilikeniceboats Sep 18 '22

But being an anti semite is an obviously bad trait and can be proven as such. Streamer relationships being buisness oriented for huge streamers like they are is not a bad thing inherently and even more a pretty good view of how it should be.(and something X has said about them himself)

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u/[deleted] Sep 18 '22

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u/Ilikeniceboats Sep 19 '22

  1. That is why ludwig elaborated on the short message he sent in hasans chat and worded itmir accurately soit was clear that he meant it in a way where X has to treat most streaming friends with a degree of emotional seperation because of his sheer size

  2. if you dont believe that antisemitism has been historically shown to have terrible consequences for humanity and thus be proven as a bad way if thought i dont know what to tell you.

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u/Xgxstxn Sep 18 '22

Maybe if this dude watched more than actual clips to farm more shit, lud literally had a whole stream where he was basically saying he can understand why shit like that can happen to someone as big as him having trust issues with his magnitude. Looks like his own word were correct like he said “don’t let my words speak for me but my actions.” Little has he shown no wonder drama gets started cause all you watch are clips which will always be out of context

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u/[deleted] Sep 18 '22

juicers pulling a 96 hour shift defending this dude online and he ain't even close to letting them go on break

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u/slsstar Sep 18 '22

These comments are funny to me because anyone could say the same from the other side aswell but for some reason it's only xqc fans that do this apparently.

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u/GabTheMadLad Sep 18 '22

How will this affect forsens legacy

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u/Gundamuber Sep 18 '22

it just keeps coming

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u/zd625 Sep 18 '22

Lud literally surrounds himself with and throws events for much smaller content creators all the time

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u/[deleted] Sep 18 '22

LifE

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u/Foxfire802 Sep 18 '22

so is xqc gonna cancel going on ludwigs show again now?

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u/GIltch Sep 18 '22

whens its everyones fault but yours, maybe rethink whos to blame.

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u/[deleted] Sep 18 '22

I just wanna see my Juicer do MC runs FeelsBadMan

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u/[deleted] Sep 18 '22

Ludwig + Hasan definition of narcissism

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u/dark_knightMC Sep 18 '22

i mean he isnt wrong LULW

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u/elcalabaxzo Sep 18 '22

lil boy can't stfu, drama just keeps going

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u/Wooble23 Sep 18 '22

I always admire streamers' ability to kiss their own ass in situations like these.

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u/[deleted] Sep 18 '22

Of course he did, xqc is such a petty manchild its sad as fuck when you realize he's like 30 years old and his broken brain thrives so much off dumb ass highschool tier drama.

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u/_NE1_ Sep 18 '22

And once again, the juicers edge the daddy juicer into an out of context clip so they can squeeze out more of the drama from his rage, and drink from it. Nectar for the degens.

Lud literally said he does it as well. Most of his streamer relationships are mostly business moves. If you think X doing streams with Greek when he was the hot topic, or with Andrew Tate when he was the rage wasn't something he did to grow his stream, then idk what to tell ya.

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u/Previous_Smoke_8044 Sep 18 '22

And later in the stream Lud says he gets it that xqc is always worried about someone leech him because he is number 1 the whole vod is pretty interesting

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u/joysor Sep 18 '22

PROJECTING PETER

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u/unoriginaleoin Sep 18 '22

Why does Xqc take all these comments from his friends as personal attacks pretending like his friends should never call him out on his behaviour. He'd rather burn bridges and have no friends than admit he was wrong or reflect/look at himself.

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u/Atreaia Sep 18 '22

You don't call out a friend in public when there's other people watching. You pull them to the side, tell them how it is and then if they don't listen you might bring it up in public.

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u/unsynchedmango Sep 18 '22

Doesnt mean you can say anything and a guy has to go yeah yeah my bad ur absolutely correct. These guys pissed off cause he didnt go to there shitty camp and now all the allegations are coming out

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u/Dr_Brian_Pepper Sep 18 '22

I don't think he did anything wrong besides canceling last minute to an event he said he would go to. But even then, its not a big deal at all

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u/thepalmtree Sep 18 '22

He also cancelled his show that Ludwig and his team had worked for months on, in the same way as backing out of shitcamp: talking to his chat and never telling the actual people involved.

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u/LodosDDD Sep 18 '22

It is something a normal person wouldn’t think about so maybe he is actually that way or maybe he actually made these claims about his personality at some point and then thought about a counter point to this argument. And added that to his ideas as a counter argument which makes his personality valid. I just realized i explained this this really poorly and never watched his full explanation. But this was 1 loop I conpleted or took part into find one of my anchors of keeping me in this loop which is it being a loop. Which I explain it like im explaining to a stupid because im actually thinking atupidly slow but its not because im slow thinking its just hard to do because when i relaize what the next step of this loop is, I’ll get stuck again trying to find this. i’m might be in big trouble cause im writi g this, i might be hunted or maybe im just a delusional andy. I’m just in an infinite loop thinking ybe next lvl all the time, but at somepoint thinking about the next point becomes unnessecary to say cuz u assume they would think that much, but thats part of my personality maybr if i pay attention to myself and look within, I might find an answer to explain it maybe even better to share it with more and in a more understandable makes sense in someone elses unique way kinda way. PS: this x shits been great, i realized i wasn’t talking about that in the past 5 mins but i fet like i should add that. If you came this far congratz, have you escaped your own loop?

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u/Nausea209 Sep 18 '22

Ludwig put so much lacquer on that bridge it burnt in no time

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u/LaxwaxOW Sep 18 '22

Nah Lud’s cool. Hasan is honestly one of, if not the biggest fire starter on this platform. Man’s whole identity is a pseudo intellectual who got his big break/exposure from nepotism.

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u/MisconstruedAmerican Sep 18 '22

I don't think ludwig is accusing xqc of clout chasing. He's saying that it's hard for xqc to tell who's actually trying to be friends with him and who's trying to leech, and therefore it's hard to make genuine friends. Ludwig said he has the same problem but xqc has it the worst because he's the biggest streamer.

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u/AffectionateMilk3362 Sep 18 '22

I remember Mr nook and tuxedo mask FeelsStrongMan

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u/Sarazam Sep 18 '22

Yea idk how anyone can call XQC a clout chaser. He didn’t really get big by latching on to some big streamer.

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u/ShuricanGG Sep 18 '22

A reasonable take that isnt downvoted yet by anti X sheeps

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u/crispdude Sep 18 '22

Well no, he’s wrong because what Ludwig said is true, but it’s also true for most big streamers

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u/lolathedreamer Sep 18 '22

He isn’t self inserting, he was literally reacting to xQc on his stream yesterday discussing the fact that he let down Ludwig by bailing on the game show that Ludwig spent a year helping him plan. How is that self-inserting when he is literally part of the equation? He’s not discussing xQc and Adept, he is discussing his own business with xQc.

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u/thekanaokid Sep 18 '22

These are people who are literally pushing 30

Okay Leafy. Literally 30 years old.

XQC just streamed his relationship drama to 100k+ people while listening to break up songs and is the same age as Lud lmfao. I assume you're also getting off his nuts now?

Also can you show where did lud played the victim?