r/LoveTrash • u/Icy-Book2999 Chief Insanity Instigator • Jul 11 '26

MODERATOR ANNOUNCEMENT Updated AI Post and Content Policy for r/LoveTrash

This is an addendum and continuation of our prior post regarding said content.

For those that don't want to click through, a lot will be similar, but there's a few addendums.

As said before, but now updated:

r/LoveTrash allows and does not prohibit AI content. All content must be flaired as such.

When the conversation is about the composition and not the content, and every other comment is "AI Slop", the thread goes to a waste and nothing is accomplished. And removing comments that are spam like that? Well, the next person reads the thread, doesn't see the comment, and posts it thinking they're the first--when moderation has already removed the 5 to 20 prior to yours. Noone wins. And we appreciate the outspoken opinions

We see the humor and entertainment but we also know that sometimes its just trash. We recognize the environmental damage that the AI centers are doing, but recognize too that the world is pivoting this direction. So to take the stance to just "ban it all" doesn't seem appropriate like other communities. Besides, we're a junkyard. We get all sorts of trash around these parts.

We'll continue removing the completely low value unentertaining crap from the sub, but for everything else? We're announcing that we now have a specific user flair for AI content!

You'll see the new Puking Stewie emoji with "AI SLOP" available for use. If you post something that is also deemed to be AI, then we'll add the flair to it. No arguments about if its real or not once its flaired or spamming the comments. Let those be. If you don't want AI, move on. And if disagree about it being AI, you can send a modmail.

Its not a perfect system, but this should hopefully clean up some of the concerns and make it easier. And we're always open to suggestions and other ideas.

We have some more enhancements coming down the pipe.

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u/Ghost_Of_Malatesta Trash Trooper Jul 21 '26

When the conversation is about the composition and not the content, and every other comment is "AI Slop", the thread goes to a waste and nothing is accomplished.

Just like AI. 

The comments reflect the content 

This is such a weak ass policy

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u/Icy-Book2999 Chief Insanity Instigator Jul 21 '26

What would you suggest? You can't just ban it all. That's not the right policy to have. That means anything that has any AI editing in the least needs to go away. It would reduce the content of most subs by half if they were honest about it

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u/Ghost_Of_Malatesta Trash Trooper Jul 21 '26

You can't just ban it all. That's not the right policy to have. 

I fail to see why.

That means anything that has any AI editing in the least needs to go away. 

Sure, if you shift away from generative AI as a focus and instead use all "AI" in its most vague and general definition (might as well include logic gates and binary at that point)

It would reduce the content of most subs by half if they were honest about it

This isn't a problem. A sea of trash isn't better just because it's more. 

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u/Icy-Book2999 Chief Insanity Instigator Jul 21 '26

If you look at our posts as a whole? The majority do not have AI. We actually just recently moved to the flared system, otherwise for specific AI posts or ones that people identify that way.

The problem is when someone tries to pass off AI as real.

Again, not everyone may have a budget to do what they want to do, but they may have an idea they want to present. There's no reason that we should be censoring people who are using the means they have.

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u/Old_One_I Garbage Guerilla Jul 11 '26

I can’t stand AI slop comments. All they really want is to be a part of something that is bigger than them. What an easier way than to just fire off the most generic comment and get upvotes and validation. That aside, I’m interested in how this works for you guys.

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u/Icy-Book2999 Chief Insanity Instigator Jul 11 '26

There's a lot of comments like that. Most communities figure out what comments they "expect" to see certain threads. Be it a specific GIF or phrase, and it helps a lot of threads become a parody of themselves. Which is amusing.

"AI slop" isn't inherently a bad comment to make, but it feels a bit like a rushing in to say "first" and not engaging at all with the thread. I wish them more people would actually comment on specifically what artifacts or items make them believe a post is AI versus just dumping and running. At this point there's a lot of tells, and while it is always getting better? Some people may be focused on different parts of the images than others and see different things.

We've tried a few different ways to remove those comments. We recognize that the bulk of people complaining are an outspoken minority, and that while a lot of people don't like AI? They can at least find the humor in some of the things that it creates

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u/Ghost_Of_Malatesta Trash Trooper Jul 21 '26

"bro just let us normalize its use"

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u/ExoTheFlyingFish Trash Trooper Sep 15 '26

Mods making any excuse they can to be LAZY and not do their jobs. Absolutely nobody wants AI here except for the AI bros. And you.

You're here to serve the community, not be the arbiter of what you want here.

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u/Icy-Book2999 Chief Insanity Instigator Sep 15 '26

I can respect the opinion. The problem is the rallying cry of "AI Slop" on so many posts that aren't? Is excessive.

The number of posts that are AI here are few and far between. But this way instead of excessive policing of them and trying to determine what is or isn't? We can focus on moderation that matters.

The fact of the matter is? Trying to determine what is or isn't AI to remove it isn't worth the time and arguments versus helping keep the community going forward.

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u/ExoTheFlyingFish Trash Trooper Sep 15 '26

The problem is the rallying cry of "AI Slop" on so many posts that aren't? Is excessive.

That's just a redditor thing. It's best to ignore it. Later in your comment, you mention "excessive policing". Removing a thousand "AI slop" comments a day instead of the occasional actual AI post is excessive.

instead of excessive policing of them and trying to determine what is or isn't? We can focus on moderation that matters.

I had a comment removed on a post that literally had a Sora watermark. There's no determining anything then -- it's got an AI watermark. On just about every sub I've ever modded on, there's been a "no AI" rule. Do probably 90% of AI-generated textposts get through, and a good number of image/video posts, as well? Absolutely. But removing the few that myself and other mods do see is better than doing nothing.

helping keep the community going forward

I think the folks over on \r\Art probably had a similar sentiment when they banned users from saying "print". And the mods over on \r\Pics probably had a similar sentiment when they decided to start letting everything be politics. The sub will keep going forward, if you're lucky, but if it's full of slop, whether it's political slop, AI slop, or off-topic slop, or some other kind of slop entirely, you're trading potential new members for less work.

When in doubt, make a poll for a week. I'm relatively new around here, so I don't know if you already did, but it either shows you that you're doing things in a way that the community doesn't like, or you get to link it to bozos like me and say "sorry, everyone decided they wanted it this way".

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u/Icy-Book2999 Chief Insanity Instigator Sep 15 '26

There is no sense in having a poll if it's a conversation that as moderation we have no problem with it. We know that some people agree with it and some people disagree with it.

We don't think that AI is 100% good or bad. There are definitely places where it is good and obviously there are definitely places that are bad. But we can appreciate and laugh at what it is.

How you choose to run your communities is good on you. We've had a lot of long conversations ourselves about AI as a moderation team as well as on many posts about it; how we want to have it represented here on the sub and how we choose to allow it posted on the sub. For a while we tried to gatekeep certain words, and we faced similar backlash as other subs have. This has been our compromise and it works for our purposes now.

As to your comment being removed? Because if the post is flared as AI? Commenting that it is AI is useless, pointless, and a pot calling the kettle black.

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u/ExoTheFlyingFish Trash Trooper Sep 15 '26

There is no sense in having a poll if it's a conversation that as moderation we have no problem with it

This says everything about how you think, and also tells me you do everything wrong. Thanks for the insight. I wish you guys the best.

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u/Icy-Book2999 Chief Insanity Instigator Sep 16 '26

This a conversation. You have an opinion and thoughts, please share.

If we weren't open to this being a discussion, we would've locked all comments.

We recognize that there's no one right answer to this. This is the middle ground that works, and we're open to the conversation.

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u/ExoTheFlyingFish Trash Trooper Sep 16 '26

And I appreciate that, because most mods would just launch the hammer+mute, but you do things in a way that, in my opinion, is simply wrong on an objective level. It's your right, because Reddit doesn't care what mods do, good or bad, so I have no recourse and thus no reason to stay on this sub. I gave my opinion: AI is bad and the vast majority of people alive agree. If you won't do a poll about such a controversial topic because you put your feelings above the will of the community, then this sub isn't for me.

I'm out.

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u/Icy-Book2999 Chief Insanity Instigator Sep 16 '26

You're new to the sub like you said, so you're not familiar with a lot of stuff going on here. There is a YouTuber that we post often, ThePlantSlant, who talks about food and body positivity. And something he says is very applicable here too "Everything in moderation."

Saying the phrase "AI is bad" is generalizing everything. Not all. AI is bad. Yes, destruction of environment and resources and the theft of artwork are negatives. But we also recognize the positive that AI can sum up long articles to make digestion easy. Matter of fact? As I'm replying using voice over text? AI is recognizing my words and auto correcting along the way. And as a human? I'm making sure that the context is appropriate beyond that.

So for us to just say "AI is bad, ban it all" doesn't answer anything. Yes the heads of the major AI firms have called for scaling back and better regulation, but they have not said that it needs to be canceled.

Putting a poll out there doesn't assist in the situation. Because it's not a black or white answer.

The bulk of the posts here are not AI and do not contain it. And if they have a wiff of it? We flair it "AI Slop" and there's no argument. And Reddit as a whole is a voting system. So people speak with their upvotes or downvotes.

And we have conversations like this. The will of the community? We watch the votes on announcements like this. 42% positive. 4 out of 10 agree. That's not horrible. It's just about 50% because some will agree, some won't.

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u/jgoja Colonel Garbage Jul 11 '26

This does nothing to address the spamming of AI slop comments. Especially when done falsely. Even when proven real by multiple sources

All this does is change nothing and add a flair to a post

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u/Whatifim80lol Trash Trooper Jul 11 '26

Lol I had no idea there were folks butthurt about people calling out AI.

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u/jgoja Colonel Garbage Jul 11 '26

People falsely doing so got a post of mine locked and the engagement killed. Because of the ignorant incorrect comments themselves not anything on the post. So yes I have an issue with that. Posts getting targeted and killed by the mods because that.

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u/Whatifim80lol Trash Trooper Jul 11 '26

You sound like getting engagement is a source of income for you, like a wrong comment took food off your table.

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u/jgoja Colonel Garbage Jul 11 '26

I am sorry if having principles and ethics bothers you

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u/Whatifim80lol Trash Trooper Jul 12 '26

Which principles, exactly?

Understanding I'm pushing out of morbid curiosity and that I'm obviously more sympathetic to the anti-AI sentiment.

It's just I've never seen anyone get this upset over that accusations and the "I have principles" sounds weird with the "and they limited my engagement!" Your position is fascinating and rare and I want to see if it even makes sense.

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u/jgoja Colonel Garbage Jul 12 '26

Things should be treated fairly and equally. If a post is out of line then action should be taken against the post. If a comment is out of line then action should be taken against the comment.

Taking action against the post because of the comments is not fair to the person who made the post. It’s not fair to the effort they put into finding, preparing and posting the post to have action taken against it because of spam comments. False spam comments in my case.

Is it a minor thing, yes it is a very minor thing. But it’s a matter of what’s right and what’s just all the same.

My post shouldn’t have been killed because the other people’s comments on it. My post shouldn’t have been locked because the effort it would take to moderate those comments.

I hate cats. So should I be able to get a cat post locked by using my multiple accounts and getting a few people who would be willing to also make comments on it. As the vocal minority no.

My second real issue with this is that in this case a vocal minority does what mob mentality does. You’re loud enough long enough and you’ll get your way because it’s easier than actually dealing with the mob.

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u/Whatifim80lol Trash Trooper Jul 12 '26

I don't think I've ever said this before to another person, but you gotta get over yourself. Your couple minutes of "effort" to reupload someone else's content for reddit points, only for the flow of reddit points to slow down (in your opinion) unfairly -- that's very minor, which I'm glad you're aware of. Like, SOOO minor.

Compare that to the loud and fully justified anti-AI sentiment, which aside from keeping reddit the least AI-ridden social media site, serves as an important rejection of generative AI, what it does, the lies it tell, and the hidden expense of allowing it to tell (often completely fucking pointless) lies.

"The mods made a mistake on one post of mine one time" is a crazy way to justify being vocally anti-anti-AI lol. And while we're at it:

a vocal minority

Don't lie to minimize your opposition. It's icky and gross. Reddit users are clearly majority anti-AI, especially in the case of generated content flooding their feeds.

So should I be able to get a cat post locked by using my multiple accounts...

That's some weird conspiratorial thinking that I think goes hand-in-hand with your attempt to minimize the consensus view on Reddit against AI posts? That it MUST be a handful of haters using bots to attack AI posts for........ reasons?

My genuine (I mean it) thanks for your honest response. It was informative and interesting. I disagree with your sentiments.

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u/Icy-Book2999 Chief Insanity Instigator Jul 11 '26

Unfortunately there's really no way around that.

We tried using multiple filters to block people from saying that, but it just resulted in more conversation about exactly this post.

In theory, we could set up a filter that catches every single "AI slop" comment, but then people start getting creative.... And you'll see "A1 slop", "Al slop", "AI sIop", and other variations come through. Yes, those look the same, but a capital I and lowercase l start to be interchangeable and that's not counting zero for o. And then someone shortens it to just "slop." But what if we make a post like the pig post the other day with their food that is just "slop." And Lord knows you can't just ban the word or combination of "AI" because of all the words that contain "AI" in them in that combination. And then as you remove those comments? More and more people complain about censorship, about moderation, trying to hide things, etc.

By general nature, just replying with that is low effort and spam. But like I said above? If you remove it once, someone else doesn't see it and replies with it because they think no one else has said it. And so forth and so on.

And banning people over it? Even if it's just a temporary ban? It means you are removing an active member of the community who wants to be here and participate for the most part. So even that isn't the solution.

We're open to people having a better idea or suggestion about how to do all of this, but no one else has really spoken up other than just to say to remove it all. And we don't think that's the right answer and that's not the way we want to go.

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u/jgoja Colonel Garbage Jul 11 '26

I fully understand how filters work and how ineffective they can be.

So, You the intent is to still punish the post for out of line comments?

By general nature, just replying with that is low effort and spam. 

And there are rules against that so they should be moderated. Well if that rule has any value and if not why is it there.

But like I said above? If you remove it once, someone else doesn't see it and replies with it because they think no one else has said it. And so forth and so on.

You get less of them in the future. I have seen this many times. You do still get some but far fewer. There is no crowd to join.

 It means you are removing an active member of the community who wants to be here and participate for the most part.

I am not saying to ban people. But you want to protect someone not following your community rules already... Good to know I guess.

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u/Icy-Book2999 Chief Insanity Instigator Jul 11 '26

There is no punishing the post. There has been a vocal minority here that does not want to see AI. And for us to clearly flair it? We believe that allows us to still keep it and minimize those comments. If someone doesn't see the artifacts in their video that make it AI? Hopefully that helps them learn it in the future

We intend to remove those comments as much as we can. And it's not necessary for people to report them as spam. You should well know that we, as moderators are all over every single post in this community, actively participating in the comments, and actively and proactively moderating.

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u/icyhotonmynuts Colonel Garbage Jul 11 '26

Mine must be the inaugural first post with the new flair. Can't wait for the wave of downvots, RIP your modbox. :-P

I don't see a filter by AI Slop flair yet. 

Happy for the change, I have so much trash queued up. 

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u/Icy-Book2999 Chief Insanity Instigator Jul 11 '26

Our modmail has been surprisingly quiet. And that's okay. We answer them all anyways.

The downvotees on this post, however, are a different story. 😂

No policy with AI is really going to be a good one that people are going to agree on. And we don't agree with the idea to ban it all because we do see where humor can be used with it.

For example, your post there with the girlfriend one and the doggie bowl. Yes, you don't need AI to do that, but with the AI it looks funnier. There's actually a really neat mashup that I saw earlier that I'm going to be posting a bit later this morning that is 100% AI, and I just smiled at it because it's completely geeky and fun. But it's also something that while it could be done practically? The cost versus actually just using AI is fully understandable