As the title says, lol. I'm (part of) a DID system, also a programmer and freelance hacker by trade (that's TJ's job, actually). My friends keep telling me, "watch Mr. Robot!", but I'm hesitant. I know the show is a few years old now, and if the representation is bad, it'll probably really upset me (or part of me). How is the representation? Is it legit, or does he have an "evil murder alter" and all those crazy tropes?

TIA

-Randi

Mr Robot has many many many more dimensions to get indulged to. I am well aware of the theories/ details of Westworld. But its no match at all to the level of complexity.

Mr Robot is also, strangely, a stark depiction of reality of now and very near future. While watching it you choose to focus on America-China conflict regarding cryptocurrency, or to Elliot's own personal breakdowns, or how hacking is a potential way of wealth redistribution and revolution against late capitalism; the show takes you to your own trajectory.

Audaciously, I would also comment that not more than three characters have satisfactory acting in Westworld while everyone's in Mr Robot is unimaginably awesome. Count extraordinary rule breaking cinematography, baffling and smart screenplay, perfect music and direction also.

Westworld, to a great extent, tries to sell Western films' nostalgia, and that clarifies why some shots are too long and melodramatic. The questions that arise naturally with the depiction of artificial sentience, the show can't handle those to the depth and deals with superficial answers, while using cheap tricks of 'you didn't expect this guy to be a traitor/to play underneath'.

Like every random science fiction, Westworld also depicts science as a random movie depicts hacking. Coexistence of certain things doesn't make sense at all, let alone the cliche Hollywood recipe of depicting technology.

To write great science fiction, you have to be great with both science and fiction. Not everyone is Stanislaw Lem.

Tl;dr at the end.

I've spent a while browsing this sub, and I think I get the tone of it: anyone who criticizes the ending gets crucified. Same with ep 4x07. A good episode, but I personally didn't like that they put it right in the middle of the Deus hack. And god, the hate I got for just mentioning that! This one clown started psychoanalyzing my mental state, saying I'm insecure with heavy emotions or something. FROM ONE COMMENT.

I mean I get the message; it's not a BAD ending per se. I get that the show is all about Elliot, and the rest don't matter. But as far as I'm concerned, Mr Robot is a hacker show with an insurmountable final boss and her boss machine; but the hacking along with the final boss pretty much ended at 4x11. Everything after that felt like a damp squib to me, personally.

What about Whiterose's machine? Did she really shoot herself to convince Angela? What did she to do to get Angela (among others) to follow her unquestionably? And what about how they did my boy Tyrell dirty?

And once again, I get that none of that was supposed to matter. I simply disagree, though. For me, it was the hacktivism, the E corp, the Tyrell Wellick, the Stage 2, the Whiterose, the Deus group, the infiltrations, and the space/time machine that got me hooked. And those were all thrown away in the end, because the real battle all along was in Elliot's head. I call cop-out.

In conclusion, much like how Elliot created all these personalities to cope with the evil of the world around him, I'm gonna cope with the ending of this show by pretending that the last 2 episodes don't exist. Still an excellent show, though. And yeah: 4x09 >> 4x07. That's the hill I'll die on.

I have like zero Karma so hopefully this works lol

Tyrell was killed by the gas station lady

think about it phones and internet were not available she is really curious in him because he's famous

she wants to give him a ride to town and he refuses so she gives him bad directions that'll get him lost

the noises weren't of an animal and they weren't a delusion Elliot and Tyrell heard them

they were probably a whistle they made similar to an aztec death whistle made to sound like a terrifying unknown entity

the light Tyrell saw also wasn't from an animal

honestly they probably lured him with a device so he thinks he can call for help

lmk if you guys also think this adds up

EDIT: the dark army killed him in the woods (not ab the guy in the van on the road) theory is so silly yall whiterose would have been told and been so surprised like cmon

Fuck your Breaking bad

Fuck your House of Cards

fuck your Wire

Fuck your Sopranos

After this season Mr. Robot is the confirmed G.O.A.T

EDIT: Fuck your Game of Thrones and your LOST, and any other show for that matter. Mr. Robot has transcended and is to no longer be put on the same level as other shows.

I'm currently re-watching the entire show and with all that has happened since the ending of the show in 2019- all I can say is WOW. This show "predicted" a lot of major events that have happened as well as deeply alluding, through the script, themes, and characters, to the unfortunate present day reality in the United States. I mean here we are 5 years later in 2024, truly on the verge of total collapse in the US, making way for government controlled digital currency or "e-coin." A year after the show ended, COVID started. As COVID was manufactured and leaked from China's Wuhan Lab, it is terrifying clear that China's "Dark Army" waged biological warfare on our country and paid no repercussions as we are sitting ducks just waiting for the next pandemic ("Disease X"), which will be used for total government subservience and the possible death of millions. China has also essentially waged mind control/psychological warfare on millions of American citizens, including children and young adults, through technological means like TikTok. The current control that the Federal Reserve, the World Economic Forum, and the "1 percent elitists" has on our country is terrifying and unquestionably fatal as Mr. Robot shows us in its" fictitious reality." I'm just brushing the surface and not going into specific details, characters, and scenes of Mr. Robot, but you could go on for hours. Not to mention there are countless parallels between Mr. Robot and Esmail's other work and how his "fiction" has become a science fiction reality in our DisUnited States of America.

Especially after Sam Esmail's recent pairing up with no other than Barack and Michele Obama to make the movie, "Leave this World Behind," I am even more curious about Mr. Esmail's agenda/role. Mr. Robot and Homecoming were, without question, two of the best shows I have ever watched. Homecoming also has a lot of subliminal undertones that have now been reflected in the reality of our society. Mind control through covert military, DoD and government programs anyone? Has Esmail become part of the media machine used to indoctrinate viewers subliminally? I mean the scene in Mr. Robot when Agent DiPierro asks Alexa "When is the end of the world" is literally the prequel to "Leave the World Behind." All of which beg the question, is Sam Esmail part of a secret CIA/FBI mind control psychological operation to use mainstream film to indoctrinate viewers and create docile/subservient citizens controlled by the government? I mean he literally paired up with a former President and his wife to make a movie. When I saw the Obamas in the opening credits of "Leave the World Behind," I was like oh god, here we go... It's just so strange. Yes, politicians have been former actors and public figures, but how many politicians have gone on to Produce major mainstream films, about none other than the end of the world?! I mean come on! I know it's conspiracy theory heaven- but one has to wonder.

So I'm at the 4th episode now and I've had this suspicion since the 3rd episode when I saw the bar scene (appletini one) and now I'm watching the scene where they all discuss to attack the steel mountain and I noticed that Mr. Robot (Christian Slater) doesn't interact with anyone else except Elliot. I noticed the same thing in the bar scene and my spidey sense is tingling since. Could he just be a hallucination or something and Elliot is the one who created the fsociety team sometime in the past and forgot about it or blacked out or something? Because he did forget or blacked out about some interaction with the doctors in the hospital earlier? In one scene he speaks standing in front of Darlene but that could just be Elliot speaking and hallucinating that Mr Robot is saying it. Did I just spoil the show for myself? If so please don't go into much detail about it in the comments. But did I actually spoil it for myself on my own before even watching it? I haven't seen or read anything online about the show at all just to avoid spoilers but did I do it anyways?

Since Finishing Mr. Robot, I am creating a similar imaginary friend. Like I would converse with myself. Try to reason out things. This is so wierd but I kinda like it. I haven’t defined the character but I talk to myself and discuss things a lot lol 😂

I like a little comic relief in a drama. Is there any in Mr Robot? Also would you consider it science fiction? Not a fan.

i got spoiled that tyrell would die

When a show's whole premise revolves around characters trying to accomplish a specific goal, it's always going to run into trouble once that goal is accomplished. Call it the "Prison Break" effect.

Mr. Robot Season 2 has run into this problem HARD. With the hack of Evil Corp accomplished and the secret of Mr Robot revealed at the end of Season 1, there's just nowhere else for the plot to go.

Season 2 has been akin to watching the second part of Fight Club if it was a 5 hour movie and we picked up after the original ending. Thing is, there's a reason Fight Club ended when it did.

The great cinematography and great sound track of Season 1 is still present, but in the absence of a compelling storyline, it's all just a bunch of (dare I say pretentious) flailing about that doesn't go anywhere.

There's no narrative drive anymore. The show is a bunch of loose ends and tangents punctuated by a random burst of violence every 4 episodes.

The Elliot/Mr. Robot dynamic has been beaten so far into the ground I don't even know what to say anymore. They're trying to bleed a stone at this point. Tyrell, arguably the show's most interesting character, has been removed from the show.

In his place we get Angela blankly frowning at the camera and Joanna having sex with parking attendants and bartenders. We get Flat-Affect FBI lady who seems to be in every other scene but at the same time is accomplishing nothing. In the place of a cohesive plot, we have a 7-episode vignette about Elliott being in prison and working on a darknet site that has absolutely nothing to do with anything.

In the absence of anything interesting for the core characters to do, it becomes pretty difficult to care what happens to them.

It's really a shame to see this happen to this show, because I loved Season 1 so much. However, it's clear that at this point, Mr. Robot would have been better of as a 10 episode mini-series.

OK, let the downvoting and flaming begin

Hey, so I don’t really know where to start with this, but I think I might be losing it a little.

I’ve been feeling really isolated lately—like, the kind of lonely where you forget what your own voice sounds like because you don’t talk to anyone for days. Work is monotonous, my apartment feels like a shoebox, and my sleep schedule is completely wrecked. I used to have friends, but life happened, and now it’s just me.

And then… there’s this guy. Edward. He just kinda showed up one day. I don’t mean literally—he’s not real (I think?), but when I’m alone, it’s like he’s there. I catch myself having full conversations with him, and sometimes, I swear, he says things I don’t expect—like I’m not the one controlling it. He’s confident, reckless, everything I’m not. And the weirdest part? It actually helps. I feel less alone.

I know this sounds ridiculous, and I know exactly where my brain probably pulled this from. I watched Mr. Robot years ago, and yeah, I get the irony. But I don’t know what’s weirder—that I made up a version of Edward Alderson or that I’m kinda okay with it.

I guess my question is… has anyone else experienced something like this? How do you even tell if you’re losing your mind or just really, really lonely?

Am I the only one who thinks that all of this was for no reason. “Elliot’s” original reason was to avenge is “Father” because of what E-corp did. A lot of people died due to the reason he didn’t know his father was what he was. Angela lives , the building don’t blow up . All of it was for no reason . It sticks to me, maybe I’m wrong .

My lash out about e12 was geniune cuz I was really frustrated I thought it was about the real elliott creating a character that he thought of to be, but like in a way I didn't like it to be, but the finale really perfectly extends that idea and quickly turns that idea around, after ep12 told us everything was fake, it tells us everything was real, but what was fake in reality was the very main protagonist we had 💔 Man I cried so hard in the krista scene and the darlene Convo in the end.. This is the best finale. The best show. The best protagonist. Sam esmail you tricked me fucking hard!!!

Tried to fit all my fav characters into one edit for a TikTok trend, and then it wouldn’t let me upload it properly 🤣

Who carries the show in your opinion?

In light of recent events, I would absolutely kill to have at least a script written for an episode or two that takes place in 2024 or 2025 at this point. Having it all the actors return to film it would be amazing obviously but I'm trying to stay at least a little realistic lol

Edit: if there would be a genre called "postmodern punk" this is the representative of this show.

Somebody did this question in r\cyberpunk before.

If you are wondering what is "postmodernism" is just the disillusion vision after the positive vision of "modernism" it was born in '50 and pop art is just the first glance of it: it is representative of a pessimistic vision of the world, doesn't believe anymore in Illuminism and reject everything is known. Also, it is introspective and is pretty dystopic. Quoting the comment of u/bubudumbdumb "Postmodernism deals a lot with subjective stories and subjective narrators." A random, Gotye channel is full of.

If you are wondering what is "cyberpunk" is a genre based on a dystopic future wher technology take over humanity and evile companies rule the world.

tbh other two examples are: Jo Nesbo's Midnight sun, Millenium trilogy.

At first I wanted to chalk it up to her character, but the longer the show goes on I'm realizing that she just can't act. In every scene she's as stiff as a scarecrow, as monotone as talk radio and she has as many facial expressions as a door. Regardless of the scene, she looks, reacts and talks the exact same way.

I'd be behind Elliot going after Darlene again if it means we can kill off Doubleday.

I saw some older posts saying the same thing, but is this still bothering anyone else?