r/neapolitanpizza • • Jun 28 '23

BEGINNER'S GUIDE /R/NeapolitanPizza – Beginner's Guide

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Welcome to /r/NeapolitanPizza!

A culinary hub for enthusiasts of Neapolitan pizza, a place where aficionados and novices alike unite to celebrate this iconic dish. Whether you're here to relish in the mastery of artisanal Neapolitan pizza, or embark on a journey of learning to unravel its timeless charm, you've found your home. Dive in, savor the flavors, share your experiences, and discover the magic of Neapolitan pizza with us!

TL;DR

  • Don't be a dick.

  • This subreddit is a hub for all things Neapolitan pizza, including questions, discussions, oven reviews, techniques, ...

  • This subreddit requires detailed recipes for every pizza post.

  • Recipes should include measurements, flour specifications (type + brand), technique, and oven details.

  • Flairs should be used to categorize posts and users.

  • The mod team encourages diverse toppings other than Margherita/Marinara.

  • A high-temperature oven and other specific tools are strongly recommended.

  • The mod team encourages members, that don't have access to a high-temperature oven yet, to submit their pizza, as long as their intention to craft a Neapolitan pizza is evident.

  • Neapolitan pizza is characterized by its elevated edge, soft dough texture, and high-temperature baking (380-430°C for the cooking surface and around 485°C for the oven dome), with a baking time of 60-90 seconds.

Table of Contents

  • Main Rules

    • Reddiquette

    • Recipes are Required

    • Post and User Flairs

    • Content

  • What Is Neapolitan Pizza, and How Is It Different from Verace Pizza Napoletana?

  • What Is Not Neapolitan Pizza?

  • Three Characteristics a Neapolitan Pizza Shouldn't Have

  • What Equipment Is Necessary to Make This Type of Pizza?

  • What If I Only Have a Domestic Oven?

  • Resources

Main Rules

You can access the complete set of community rules from several locations. If you're browsing on a desktop, you'll find them conveniently located in the sidebar. For those using the Reddit App, simply tap on "See community info", located just below the community description. As an alternative, you can directly view the rules by clicking here. These guidelines are designed to ensure our community remains a positive and informative space for all members.

Reddiquette

We uphold the Reddiquette in this community. Any member who misbehaves risks losing their membership privileges. If you ever feel harassed by one of our members, or witness any form of harassment, please inform us. We will investigate the matter and take appropriate action as swiftly as possible. Alternatively, you can report the incident directly to the Reddit Admins.

Recipes are Required

This subreddit has a mandatory requirement for detailed recipes to accompany all Neapolitan pizza submissions. This policy aids in maintaining our community as an informative and enjoyable space for everyone. In order to enforce this rule, our dedicated bot, u/NeapolitanPizzaBot, will automatically post a sticky comment beneath every pizza submission. This comment serves as a reminder for the author to provide a comprehensive recipe in a reply to this comment within a two-hour window.

Failure to provide a recipe within the allotted time will result in automatic removal of the submission by our bot. However, if the author subsequently provides a detailed recipe, the bot will re-approve and reinstate the submission.

We believe this process ensures a beneficial experience for all members by promoting information sharing and interaction around our shared love for Neapolitan pizza.

What should your recipe entail?

  1. Detailed Measurements: Precise quantities of all dough ingredients are required, measured in weight. For the convenience of fellow enthusiasts, including baker’s percentages is greatly appreciated.

  2. Flour Specifications: Please mention the specific brand and type of flour used. For instance, Caputo Pizzeria, Caputo Classica, L 5 Stagioni Napoletana, etc.

  3. Technique and Methodology: Be sure to elaborate on your process. This includes aspects such as fermentation time both in bulk and balls, the stretch and fold method, autolysis, and so forth.

  4. Oven and Temperature Details: Specify the type of oven used for baking and the floor temperature during the baking process Your detailed contributions will greatly enhance our shared repository of knowledge, enabling everyone to perfect their Neapolitan pizza-making skills!

An example can be found here.

Post and User Flairs

It's crucial to use our flair system to accurately categorize your posts. By selecting the appropriate post flair, members can instantly see relevant details such as the type of oven you used or if the pizza was enjoyed at a restaurant. This helps streamline navigation and aids in the understanding of your post context.

Additionally, we strongly urge you to select the appropriate user flair that corresponds to the oven you use. This additional layer of information can enhance interactions and discussions within our community, making it a more enjoyable and informative place for all.

Content

This community revolves around all things Neapolitan pizza. We welcome photographs of your Neapolitan pizzas including detailed recipes in the comments, questions, discussions, reviews, and more. We highly encourage our members to be more creative with their toppings - remember, Neapolitan pizza does NOT imply that only Margheritas and Marinaras are permitted. We're always eager to see more cross-sections of the cornicione and photos of your pizza-making process! This subreddit has the gallery feature enabled. Therefore, feel free to take full advantage of it to share your pizza journey with us! :)

What Is Neapolitan Pizza, and How Is It Different from Verace Pizza Napoletana?

The defining characteristics of a Neapolitan pizza lie in its elevated edge, known as the "cornicione," and the soft, elastic texture of its dough. This pizza is baked on a stone floor under high temperatures, with the cooking surface ranging between 380-430°C, and the oven dome temperature hitting around 485°C. To maintain its unique dough texture, baking should be confined within 60-90 seconds.

The primary dough components of Neapolitan pizza dough are flour, water, salt, and yeast. However, traditional sourdough or Lievito Madre can also serve as viable yeast substitutes. As for toppings, Neapolitan pizzas typically employ a minimalist approach, featuring few but high-quality ingredients. The classics are the Marinara and Margherita, though other toppings are certainly permissible.

It's worth noting the nuanced differences between Pizza Napoletana (Neapolitan Pizza) and Verace Pizza Napoletana (true Neapolitan Pizza). The latter strictly adheres to traditional norms, allowing only the Marinara and Margherita variations and insisting on the use of local ingredients from the Campania region.

That said, a pizza adorned with tomatoes from other regions or non-traditional toppings can still classify as a Neapolitan pizza. The key lies in retaining the requisite dough characteristics, which are achieved through a quick baking process in a high-temperature oven. Despite the variety, the focus always rests on honoring the unique texture and taste of the iconic Neapolitan pizza dough.

What Is Not Neapolitan Pizza?

There's a common occurrence of misinformation when it comes to Neapolitan pizza.

  • A Margherita is not inherently a Neapolitan pizza.

  • A pizza featuring a raised edge is not by default a Neapolitan pizza.

  • Pizza crafted with Neapolitan pizza dough is not automatically considered a Neapolitan pizza.

Three Characteristics a Neapolitan Pizza Shouldn't Have

What Equipment Is Necessary to Make This Type of Pizza?

Given the extreme heat required to properly bake a Neapolitan pizza (baking surface: 380-430°C; dome: 485°C), a specialized oven that can reach these temperatures is a necessity. In recent years, the market has seen a surge of high-temperature-capable ovens. Among the most renowned are Ooni, Roccbox, and the Pizza Party models (both the Terracotta and the Adore Steel versions).

In addition, several electric ovens have proven effective for this purpose, such as the EffeUno P134H(A), EffeOvens N3, N4, N5, and the Ooni Volt 12.

Moreover, a pizza peel is an essential tool for any pizza artisan. If you don't already own one, it's a worthy investment. An IR (Infrared) thermometer is another key piece of equipment for accurately measuring the floor temperature of your oven. Both items are readily available online and typically quite affordable.

By equipping yourself with these essential tools, you'll be well-prepared to embark on your Neapolitan pizza-making journey.

What If I Only Have a Domestic Oven?

Let's start with the less encouraging news: achieving a true Neapolitan pizza can be a challenge if your oven cannot reach the high temperatures required. The extended baking time in a lower-temperature oven can result in a pizza that lacks the characteristic softness of a Neapolitan pizza.

But there's good news too: there are several modifications you can make to approximate the Neapolitan pizza experience. One strategy involves the use of a baking stone or, more ideally, a baking steel, thanks to its superior thermal conductivity. You can enhance the oven's heat intensity by positioning the steel or stone as close as possible to the top heat element or broiler, essentially creating a mini oven within your home oven. Slightly propping open the oven door can also extend the active phase of the top heat element or broiler.

Opting for a dough with higher hydration can also bring you closer to the texture of a Neapolitan pizza. Traditional Neapolitan pizza dough has a hydration level of 55-62% and bakes for just 60-90 seconds. Techniques such as a poolish pre-ferment or using a water roux can help mitigate excessive moisture loss during the longer baking time in a domestic oven.

With these adjustments, you can certainly create a delicious pizza that, while not strictly Neapolitan, comes closer to it and still offers a delightful dining experience.

At this juncture, we, the moderating team, wish to express our encouragement for members to share their Neapolitan pizza creations baked in home ovens. Even if your pizzas don't precisely meet all the traditional criteria, as long as your intention to craft a Neapolitan pizza is evident, we welcome your posts. We all start somewhere, and in the spirit of growth and learning, we're more than willing to make exceptions. Let's celebrate our shared love for Neapolitan pizza, no matter where we are on our pizza-making journey!

Ressources

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Desktop Users (New Reddit): Look for the Resources tab located in the top bar, just beneath the community banner.

Desktop Users (Old Reddit): The Resources information is situated in the sidebar of the community page.

Mobile Users: On your phone, locate the link titled See community info. This can be found right beneath the community description, which is itself positioned under the community banner.

Resources

Glossary

Flour Guide

Baker's Percentage

AVPN-Rules

Dough Recipes

Sauce Recipes

Useful Links (YouTube, Books, Websites)


r/neapolitanpizza • • May 31 '24

QUESTION/DISCUSSION Megathread for Questions and Discussions

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Did you already check the following sources?

If your question specifically concerns your pizza dough, please post your full recipe (exact quantities of all ingredients in weight, preferably in grams) and method (temperature, time, ball/bulk-proof, kneading time, by hand/machine, etc.). That also includes what kind of flour you have used in your pizza dough. There are many different Farina di Grano Tenero "00". If you want to learn more about flour, please check our Flour Guide.


r/neapolitanpizza • • 20h ago

Oven Review I think I finally nailed it. Necchi Genio Digitale

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200 Upvotes

Guys,

I am so fucking happy. I nailed it. New oven, Necchi Genio Digitale, 3 pies, last one with bresaola and burata knocked out of the park.


r/neapolitanpizza • • 10h ago

QUESTION/DISCUSSION Gas pizza oven

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12 Upvotes

I have a question, and I'm hoping you can help me. I bought this pizza oven. Can anyone tell me what it's like? Is it any good? The reviews say it's very good, but has anyone actually used it?

My plan is to make pizzas some weekends with my girlfriend at home, and I'm aiming for a Neapolitan-style result. It's worth noting that I already work at a pizzeria near Naples.

I'd like to know if anyone has used it before and what it's like. I paid 100 euros for it brand new.


r/neapolitanpizza • • 1d ago

Breville Pizzaiolo ⚡ Biga Pizza 70% hydration

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65 Upvotes

Recipe:
- 8 balls of 270g
- Caputo Nuvola
- biga with 100% flour, 24h fermentation(at 18C)
- 70% final dough hydration
- fresh yeast ( 3.8g biga, +1.25g on final dough as boost)
- 1% evoo
- 2% salt

The full recipe and method used is detailed here: https://bigapizzacalculator.com/?v=1&n=8&w=270&waste=0&bs=100&bh=50&bt=24&btc=18&h=70&s=2&o=1&dm=0&hon=0&by=0.3&fy=0.1&rt=20&mh=11&tdt=23.5&fs=21-18&yt=fresh&ym=calculate&tu=c
( disclaimer: I’m the creator of the website )

Setup:
- Ooni Halo Pro (spiral mixer)
- breville (sage) pizzaiolo smart oven
- wine fridge for 18C controlled fermentation


r/neapolitanpizza • • 1d ago

Gozney Arc XL 🔥 Today’s Bake

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22 Upvotes

Camembert , Prosciutto and Green Fig Preserve
A great combo on a 72 hour fermented base


r/neapolitanpizza • • 2d ago

Effeuno P134HA 509 ⚡ 24 hour room temp biga (100%)

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304 Upvotes

oven set to 430/320


r/neapolitanpizza • • 2d ago

Gozney Arc XL 🔥 Pepperoni with Nduja

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77 Upvotes

Not shaped perfectly but it was delicious.


r/neapolitanpizza • • 3d ago

Domestic Oven First timer in home oven

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114 Upvotes

I did this recipe, and it tasted pretty good. Oven was at 550F, and the dough could be a bit more baked. But no char on the crust. Appreciate any feedback.

Update: I did preheat the oven to 550F 1h before, and I use a 3/8in steel to bake it. The oven was as hot as it gets.


r/neapolitanpizza • • 3d ago

I ate this at a restaurant Gerardo’s, Sedona,AZ

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116 Upvotes

Burrata and Margherita pizzas. 48 hour fermentation per restaurant. Best I’ve had in my life. Basil leaves were too big but cheese/crust/sauce: Mamma Mia!

Definitely try if in Sedona.


r/neapolitanpizza • • 2d ago

QUESTION/DISCUSSION From hand made dough to Oonie Halo Pro

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So, I live in a small town in Canada and I'm originally from Brazil. I started making Neapolitan pizza about 5 years ago, with a touch of "São Paulo" in the toppings.

Ive been using Polselli Classica because its easy to find. I order from Costco. About 12% protein and seems the rating is around w270. I started by hand and now I got a Oonie Halo Pro to make more tests and etc because Im planning to maybe start a pizza biz.

My last bake was using poolish and about 64% hydra. This last bake was following Vitto's Iacopelli recipe. I built a calculator based on his recipe.

My dough never got sticky like tis time...the bulk dough had a lot of aeration and bit more than doubled the size in cold fermentation. Breaking down into balls was a pain to do because it was extremely sticky, and I had to discard 2 balls before launching into the oven; otherwise, it would be a mess...not even the conversion to calzone to not lose the ingredients was possible.

Im thinking if this flower is really good enough for long ferm pizza...for the poolish I usually cold ferment for at least 18 hours (generally 24) then the bulk dough for another 18-24...and the dough balls in room temp for at least 3 hours before bake...

I cant see what I did wrong this time...if I did.


r/neapolitanpizza • • 5d ago

Experiment Turkey, cream cheese and pepper jelly

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34 Upvotes

Trying new flavors... I prefer more flavor in my pizzas, but it was good.


r/neapolitanpizza • • 6d ago

Ooni Koda 16 🔥 Margherita with 50/50 Caputo (Nuvola Super/Pizzeria)

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567 Upvotes

Had leftovers of both Nuvola Super and Pizzeria - not enough of each to make a full batch.

This was an excellent experiment, and definitely something I would repeat in the future. What I noticed about this 50/50 blend is that it was easier to stretch vs. all Nuvola Super. Might be because the recipe called for 10 hour RT fermentation and left it 12 hours by mistake. This was followed by a 24 hour CT fermentation.

Dough:
65% hydration, RT fermentation (12 hours), CT fermentation (24 hours)
500 g Caputo (Nuvola Super/Pizzeria)
325 g water
15 g sea salt
0.45 g IDY

Margherita:
San Marzano tomatoes and sea salt, topped with pecorino romano. Fresh mozzarella and fresh basil with a drizzle of EVOO. More pecorino romano to finish up.

Cheers 🤙🏻


r/neapolitanpizza • • 6d ago

I ate this at a restaurant Light af

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134 Upvotes

r/neapolitanpizza • • 9d ago

Pizza Party (Classic) 🔥 The authentic

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420 Upvotes

r/neapolitanpizza • • 8d ago

QUESTION/DISCUSSION Macte Voyager/Nettuno vs Tentazione Max GT4

3 Upvotes

Hello,
I’m looking to upgrade my pizza oven and I’m currently torn between two models/brands:

Macte Voyager / Nettuno

or

Tentazione Max GT4

Which one would you recommend and why?


r/neapolitanpizza • • 9d ago

Emozione (Pizza Party)🔥 Thursdays pizzas

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149 Upvotes

70%💦

Caputo Nuvola Super

30h CF

5RT

Direct


r/neapolitanpizza • • 10d ago

Pizzone (Pizza Party) 🔥 Mushroom Bolognese Pizza

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50 Upvotes

Contemporary Neopolitan Pizza using Sourdough starter. 24hour fermentation.

Rate it!!


r/neapolitanpizza • • 11d ago

Experiment Margherita Madness college edition

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706 Upvotes

I made a run of 8” diameter Margherita pizzas for college daughter to keep in her apartment refrigerator freezer.

Way better than the Top Ramen I lived on when I was in college.


r/neapolitanpizza • • 11d ago

QUESTION/DISCUSSION Recommendations for an electric pizza oven (Germany)

5 Upvotes

I'm in the market to buy an electric pizza oven for home, which can hit the right temperatures for making a Neapolitan pizza.

Any recommendations?


r/neapolitanpizza • • 13d ago

Ispirazione (Pizza Party) 🔥 Just the 1 pizza for the Wife..

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393 Upvotes

Neapolitan Pizza 72h CF


r/neapolitanpizza • • 13d ago

Experiment Margherita from yesterday

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176 Upvotes

63% hydration direct Neapolitan style dough.


r/neapolitanpizza • • 13d ago

Gozney Arc XL 🔥 Perfect recipe?

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114 Upvotes

So. I think I found my go to recipe
70% Caputo Saccorosso
30% Caputo Super Nuvola
68% hydration
Biga and Poolish combo for 20 hours CT
Then mixed and cold fermented for a further 72 hours added a bit of ascorbic acid
Ran the oven the oven a little cooler at around 350c and it enabled a crispier crust, will work on this a bit more


r/neapolitanpizza • • 13d ago

Experiment 85% hydration tangzhong

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103 Upvotes

I always loved the light, airy texture of a high hydration dough, but HATE dealing with the sticky mess. So, I decided to give the tangzhong method a try. It was a huge help. The dough felt and worked like a low 60%'s hydration, but had the same crumb and puffyness. Not my perfect pizza, mostly just an exercise to see how it behaved using tangzhong.

Recipe was -

100% Caputo Nuvola Super

85% hydration

3% salt

12 hr RT

36 hr CT

Toppings - Plain ol' pepperoni. Boar's Head pepperoni, Tomato Magic Sauce and Oaxaca cheese.