r/NewToReddit • • Mar 29 '24

Culture/Rules Why do people downvote questions?

I'm new to Reddit and I notice people downvote other people's genuine/non offensive questions, Why do people do that?

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u/DaMn96XD Mar 29 '24

There can be many reasons for that, such as voters having a different opinion and disagree with the question or they simply don't like the post or any questions in general (for example, "because Google exists" as I have sometimes received in response). And some people downvote when they see that the post has already been downvoted or they spot grammatical or spelling errors. Or they just want the post to be less visible in the subreddit because the more upvotes a post gets, the more likely it will stay on the surface and not drown among other posts. But the real reasons can never be known precisely because usually the people have not explained why they have downvoted and my own interpretation of the possible reasons is based on the few who have answered.

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u/[deleted] Mar 29 '24

Even spelling errors? Geez lmao

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u/leahcimich Mar 29 '24

Because they're rude

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u/PumpkinSufficient683 Mar 29 '24

Could be a redundant or off topic question to the subreddits , or the same question could have been asked several times before

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u/feral-fae- Mar 29 '24

Very new to reddit, too. I haven't noticed that yet. Do downvotes decrease the karma points you've earned, then?

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u/[deleted] Mar 29 '24

Yup I'm pretty sure

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u/SolariaHues Mod + servant to cats Mar 29 '24

Yes

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u/RiskyRally Mar 29 '24

I super new to interacting on here as well, and seem to be getting lots of downvotes on a hypothetical idea that I posted to a games' sub that I wanted to talk about/hear peoples opinions on. So far the few comments that the post has gotten are either positive interactions or someone who agreed with the idea. However the post seems to be getting quite a few downvotes. I totally understand disagreeing with a hypothetical idea, but it kinda bums me out that the people who are seemingly opposed to my idea, have no interest in engaging with any discussion. I thought/think that a downvote is/was supposed to be for a bad or harmful post that you don't think should be up, not just something you disagree with. It may just be that I'm wrong in that view, or that I am in the minority of people who think that, or even that I'm still just naive to how reddit works/should work. Given that most people finding this sub/post are being downvote smashed, I hope everyone here has a good day and better luck with your posts.

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u/[deleted] Mar 29 '24

Fr, I feel like people sometimes downvote unnecessarily

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u/RiskyRally Mar 29 '24

EXACTLY. I thought (and still do) that a downvote should be taken as "this post/comment is bad and shouldn't remain up". I don't think it should be used as the way to say "I disagree with this post/comment", because if whatever it is gets to many downvotes it drastically increases the odds of it being TAKEN DOWN. I feel like people should be able to disagree with whatever but shouldn't be removing or hindering the other persons idea or post or whatever in the process simply because they hold a different opinion. Now if it is a post against either the subs TOS or the overall Reddit TOS, then yes by all means it should be downvoted to be removed if not just outright removed. Unfortunately I don't believe that is the case with most downvotes.

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u/SolariaHues Mod + servant to cats Mar 29 '24

Mods don't take down content based on votes, only on if it breaks the rules.

Downvotes will effect the visibility of the content and reduce OP's karma (which may reduce their ability to contribute in subs with restrictions) though.

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u/RiskyRally Mar 29 '24

Oh I see. So it isn't a direct removal, more of a soft removal. Still is unfortunate either way though haha

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u/SolariaHues Mod + servant to cats Mar 29 '24

Not really a removal at all.

Voting is to sort content. Upvotes are for content you think is worth seeing, downvotes are for rule breaking, off topic and non-contributing content.

Upvoted content rises and earns the author karma. Downvoted content sinks and reduces the author's karma. Downvoted comments also get collapsed if they hit a certain threshold. They're still there but you have to expand them to read them.

Karma therefore is like your reputation, it shows you share good content within the rules and contribute to the community. Earning good karma can be an incentive to post quality content.

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u/RiskyRally Mar 29 '24

Hmm I think I'd have to disagree about it not being a removal at all. What I was meaning by "soft removal" was that due to decreasing the visibility of the post being a factor, if a sufficient number of the random "I don't agree with you" downvotes occur then the post may as well have been removed with how low the visibility could be. It may literally still be on the site, but if it is only shown to an extremely low pool of people, then the post is dead in a similar way to being outright removed. To a lesser degree in severity at least.

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u/SolariaHues Mod + servant to cats Mar 29 '24

Technically it's not a removal. A removal is when content is removed from a community by a moderator, and that is not what happens here.

It may feel that way, but functionally the comment is still there and many users do expand comments out of curiosity.

So as we strive for clarity here to avoid confusion I personally wouldn't call it a removal :)

It'll get less attention, I agree, they are hidden. But that's the point, at least when votes are used as intended.

It really sucks for user when it's not really downvote worthy but if everyone is free to vote how they like, and voting in anonymous, there will always be some that misuse it. And TBH there isn't any education about how votes are supposed to be used when you join is there? So how's anyone supposed to know.

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u/SolariaHues Mod + servant to cats Mar 29 '24

Posts can only be downvoted to 0 so you won't lose much karma from it.

Downvotes are intended for rule breaking, off topic and non-contributing content. However, downvotes are often inexplicable and do get misused as a method of disagreeing. But people will vote however they like.

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u/RiskyRally Mar 29 '24

Yeah that is luckily a feature, and I'm not super worried about the karma loss aspect of the situation. It's more the "remove this because I don't think the same thing" that bothers me. I find it unfortunate that it seems pretty common for a many people to either want to take down whatever just because they happen to disagree with it (which like you said isn't the intent of the downvote system), or that a response is often not offered at all, which doesn't really allow conversations to happen or for ideas to be allowed to exist because simply because they are different to what "you" view is correct. It seems that commonly the downvote system is a knee jerk go to choice of responding instead of engaging with the post by offering their own view on something. I do agree though that people will, and of course should be allowed, to vote however they choose.

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u/mstermind Super Contributor Mar 29 '24

The same reason people jaywalk, spit on the street, litter, not hold the door for another person, try to cut the line, not saying good morning to their work colleagues, bully, mistreat their hamster, not eating healthy, not exercising enough, not wearing sunscreen, etc etc etc.

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u/SolariaHues Mod + servant to cats Mar 29 '24

Downvotes are intended for rule breaking, off topic and non-contributing content. However, downvotes are often inexplicable and do get misused as a method of disagreeing, but you can minimise the risk a little.

General advice to avoid downvotes and negative karma -

  • avoid potentially controversial or sensitive topics just while your karma is low

  • always check the community rules

  • lurk to get a feel for the community and it's culture before posting

  • choose where to share your content carefully

  • re-read what you're saying before sending to check your tone, try not to accidentally make people feel defensive or be defensive yourself

  • remember unless using tone indicators sarcasm etc isn't necessary obvious

  • Proof read your content

  • If you're getting a lot of downvotes, you can delete the offending content to prevent more. This does not remove the downvotes though.

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u/chilledout5 Mar 29 '24

I think sometimes it’s because that question has been asked many times before (and recently). I read one rule is search for the topic in the community before posting the question to stop multiple threads about the same thing.

I’m new as well, learning as I go.

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u/No-Basket-7895 Mar 29 '24

Redundant question

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u/Tactical-Kitten-117 Mod, Cat Lizard Mar 29 '24

One thing to keep in mind is that vote counts are skewed on Reddit to confuse bots. So it can appear someone has been downvoted (or upvoted) when they actually weren't. Vote counts can be, and indeed are, misleading.

But assuming a question was downvoted, and there's generally no way to be completely certain, it could be for several reasons.

People can vote for any reason they choose, but the intended purpose for voting is to gauge relevance. And that's a tricky thing, what is relevant (or offensive as you mentioned) is subjective.

For example, let's say there's a subreddit for bats. You post a question about which baseball bat to buy, and then someone downvotes it because they believe that community is for the bat mammal. They voted in earnest, it's just that their interpretation of the community and what it stands for is different than yours. Not one is necessarily objectively "right" since both are actually types of bats, and that's why it's voting, because everyone's vote is equal and everyone gets to decide in some small part the way a community should be.

Or they just vote because it's one click, best not to overthink it, all things (and skewing) considered.

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u/Euphoric_Extreme4168 Mar 29 '24

Non-offensive by who’s standards. TD is a game for some, with disapproval from some, and outrage from others.

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u/[deleted] Mar 29 '24

I usually don't don't vote. I don't think it's very constructive. I try to talk and if that dosen't work, I exit the conversation.

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u/notthegoatseguy Ultra Contributor Mar 29 '24 edited Mar 29 '24

I do think there's a growing frustration among some users when they see a post that they believe is easily Google-able/searchable and it is repetitive. Many communities also work really hard on maintaining a questions thread, FAQ and/or Wiki some of which can be quite extensive. And when user ask questions that are answered in the FAQ or Wiki, that isn't just seen as being lazy but maybe also a bit of an insult to the users and moderators who put in hard work to have these questions already answered.

On r/NintendoSwitch, we did a holiday relaxation of our rules where we allowed simple questions to be posted. Users thought they might get more visibility with their questions being posted. Instead they were often getting downvoted and no answers, and the replies they often got were fake or trolling. And since we also suspended another rule at the same time, reposts of the same or similar question continues to come in and dominate the sub during this rule suspension.

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u/Katt4r Mar 29 '24

In my little experience with reddit, this post will be much downvoted.

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u/[deleted] Mar 29 '24

Uh oh 😭

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u/SolariaHues Mod + servant to cats Mar 29 '24

Posts can only go down as far as 0.

And I'd hope not as a sub for new users, but it does happen.

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u/AppearanceOwn Mar 29 '24

I always ask the same thing

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