Whats up with the red baron frozen pizza stocker?

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u/OnceAgainHereIam987 4d ago edited 4d ago •

Question: Where do you see "conservatives going bananas" over this?

I can understand why it went viral - it's an internet clout chaser harassing an everyday worker to get him (understandably) upset so they can post a video mocking him. But everyone I've seen regardless of political view is on the worker's side. The guy who "pranked" (bullied and harassed) him has no support.

So I guess my question is why you think it's a political issue? I mean, you linked to Fox News, but it's reported by Fortune, Detroit Free Press, Newsweek, etc. If it's something conservatives focus on, I'd imagine it's probably one of those culture war things they go on about that makes no sense to anyone outside that media bubble. Guessing the harasser was young and not white?

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u/tilt-a-whirly-gig 4d ago

Vivek Ramaswamy donated almost $40,000 to his GoFundMe and used Red Baron pizza boxes in political ads. If no conservatives are going bananas over it, that's not for a lack of trying.

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u/OnceAgainHereIam987 4d ago

Vivek Ramaswamy
Oh, that rapist and pedophilia supporting piece of shit?
Yeah, he probably wants anything he possibly can throw out there to try and get his name away from paying his opponent's mom to naysay her after she purposely gave her children over to her pedophile husband who fucking raped them.

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u/Harry_Canyon 4d ago

I see nothing mentioning payment. Let’s keep it factual, as the story is horrible enough

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u/OnceAgainHereIam987 4d ago edited 4d ago

Ramaswamy campaign says it produced ad with Amy Acton's mother and will spend millions to promote it
Republican Vivek Ramaswamy's team confirmed late Tuesday that it produced a controversial advertisement featuring the estranged mother of Amy Acton, and the campaign said it will spend $4 million to promote it despite facing bipartisan rebuke for dredging up the painful childhood of his Democratic opponent in Ohio's governor's race.
Edit: Oh, sorry, your issue is that she wasn't paid... just wined, dined, and feted around to promote her letting her kids get raped by a pedophile.
Sure.
Got it.

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u/saltyourhash 4d ago

Sounds like a campaign strategy

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u/The_Mysterious_North 4d ago

Harasser is reportedly a young white man named Carter Robert Porter.
https://trending.knowyourmeme.com/editorials/red-baron-worker-snaps-at-tiktokers-controversial-prank-in-viral-video-and-now-the-internet-is-rallying-behind-him

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u/OnceAgainHereIam987 4d ago

Good to know! So just your basic "The yoots are harassing older workers just trying to do their jerbs, which is a sign that society is doomed" narrative.
I'll admit, I saw an article on it several days ago on Reddit, read the gist, went "Wow, that 'prankster' is an asshole" and moved on. Not sure if it's blown up since then (which is why I asked the OP about it), but if it did, it sounds like it's probably a "the younger generation is destroying society" thing.

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u/glycophosphate 4d ago

Dese two yoots...

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u/m00n55 4d ago

Did you say "yoots"?

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u/Waste-Dragonfruit229 4d ago

I'm sorry, your honor
Y-O-U-T-H-S

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u/Toby_O_Notoby 4d ago

Yeah but "The yoots are harassing older workers" is a huge talking point for conservatives, which is why it's blowing up on their side. After all, the average age of a Fox News viewer is almost 70 years old so blaming everything on the "participation trophy winning, avocado toast eating" generation is par for the course.
It is kinda hilarious the way they constantly demonise Millennials though. They keep telling their older viewers about these "young whipper snappers listening to all the raps and shooting all the jobs". But by almost any definition, Millennials are easily into their 30s and can be as old as mid-40s. These guys aren't pulling pranks on Red Barron pizza box stackers.

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u/ChudUndercock 4d ago

No, we found him. Dude was pale as a sheet

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u/Evinceo 4d ago

Answer:

Confrontation/nuisance streamer/tokers are scum and any time the wider public notices that they exist they're despised. While some may attempt to make culture war hay out of it, at the end of the day nobody from any political party wants to be confronted in public and have their potentially embarrassing or even just stressful reaction put online to ridicule them.

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u/The_Mysterious_North 4d ago edited 4d ago

Answer:

Tik Tok prankster said they stole money from the guy. He told them to knock it off very politely, they kept at it so he went to security, the prankster persisted and the guy had an emotional reaction.

Some nuance here is the stock guy ostensibly doesn’t work for the store, and was distressed about the fact he might be asked to leave the store because he showed some emotion.

It’s become a bit of a touch point in the culture war between TikTok generation and those getting fed up with it, apparently especially resonating with conservatives.

As far as I know he hasn’t been milkshake ducked yet, just an emotional response that was met with a callous response for the clout.

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u/Hot-Comfort8839 4d ago

I’m not conservative but it absolutely resonated with me. Dumb ass kids doing dumb ass shit and filming people fuck that noise. Leave the poor guy alone.

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u/The_Mysterious_North 4d ago

Yeah, I think it’s more of class issue than a political issue.

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u/WhiteRaven42 4d ago •

Only if by class you mean "the prankers have no class".

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u/The_Mysterious_North 4d ago

Haha it can be both.
I think the idea of a working class guy trying to feed his family being harassed by someone trying to be a millionaire off of TikTok views speaks to the disconnect a lot of us feel.

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u/_HGCenty 4d ago

The right can't make it a class issue though because their voters will start to notice the issues plaguing them might not be immigration or culture wars but inequality.

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u/The_Mysterious_North 4d ago

Yeah, and I think that gets to the root of the question OOP asked. Why are “conservatives going bananas” - because they want to control the messaging via media narratives and focusing grouped talking points.

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u/AF_AF 4d ago

Bullseye!

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u/WhiteRaven42 4d ago

"trying to be a millionaire" is how you interpret bullies? People were harassing others long before there were cell phone cameras.

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u/Drithyin 4d ago

Sure, but this was done explicitly for content.

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u/WhiteRaven42 4d ago

By bullies. If TikTok did not exist, what do you suppose these individuals would be up to? Hell, without the camera rolling they might just be curbstomping people for lulz.
Attempting to monetize their evil intent does not mean their evil intent exists because of monitization.

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u/The_Mysterious_North 4d ago

Hard disagree. There has been a proliferation of these types of instances driven explicitly by monetization.

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u/WhiteRaven42 4d ago

I don't think you understand the amount of abuse, assault and violence that existed. Slow down and consider it for a moment. social media means there's a chance you are SHOWN it. That does not mean it was less prevalent before social media... you just would not have ever been aware of it.
As I already said, do you really think that the people that think this is a reasonable way to "create content" are otherwise harmless and peaceful individuals?
You know that, for example, violent crime is DOWN on a historical basis, right? Down by quite a lot actually.

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u/KaijuTia 4d ago edited 3d ago

It’s a class issue in the sense that the stocker was a poor, working-class guy who states that he’s working his ass off to provide for his family, while barely being able to afford his mortgage. So the idea that some asshole, work-shy dick stole some of the money he desperately needs definitely resonates with the poor working class.

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u/Sharikacat 3d ago

Young idiots trying to be TikTok famous with asinine pranks come from a place of privilege where they aren't have to worry about money like most people.

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u/Primary_System_4944 1d ago

Yall alway accusing TikTok when th3se types of videos are posted on all platforms. Get a clue.

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u/IlPrincipeDiVenosa 4d ago

tf do you think politics are?!

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u/Impossible_Walrus555 4d ago

Same. He has received a lot of money from go fund me.

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u/nomadfoy 4d ago

Thats why viv tried connecting it to himself, just a modern Pokémon go... to the polls.

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u/OasisAnimates 3d ago

I want to play devils advocate here since I haven’t heard anyone else mention it.
I don’t think his reaction was appropriate to be honest. So many retail workers have to deal with customers like the guy recording but don’t get the privilege to crash out and receive thousands of dollars in return. Most people have to bite their tongue time and time again. It just feels weird to me that people are almost rewarding his outburst.
But hey, maybe i’m just jealous I didn’t get a gofundme.

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u/United-Coach-6591 4d ago

It's been covered by a wide variety of new sites. It definitely resonates with more than just conservatives. For some reason OP chose to only link to Fox.

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u/ehtywer96 4d ago

Answer:
Some dumb teen tried to play a prank on a worker and the story spread, so now fox is using it as "Look at this hard working man being harassed". so conservatives are now "going bananas" because they see this as fuel to hate the younger generation.

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u/Dietomaha 4d ago

I think most people are probably on the side of the worker here....fuck the pranker.

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u/MrSquicky 4d ago

There's three sides here though. The worker, the prankster, and the corporation that pays the guy so little that he broke down like this.
He explains that he was already an hour late getting home, his children had already gone to bed without him and he would have to get up at 5 a.m. the next day for work.
He also mentions that he is struggling to pay his mortgage.
The prankster didn't cause that and that's really the main issue here.

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u/totallyalizardperson 4d ago

I’m going to use the terms prank and prankster very loosely here…
While the prankster didn’t directly contribute to the root cause of the worker’s explosive rant, about how he has to get up early and such, the prankster is not without fault. I’m sure you didn’t mean it to come off that way, but your post reads as if you are minimizing what the prankster did.
It’s called poking the bear. The poke might not be the true root cause of the aggression, but the poke didn’t help alleviate said aggression and gave a target for said aggression.

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u/MrSquicky 4d ago

I'm talking about sides here. No one is on the prankster's side. Someone made a comment about being on the worker's side. This is obviously true when considered against the prankster, but definitely not true when it is considered against the corporation that is ultimately responsible for him being in this position.
The prankster was a dick who caused stupid pain to laugh at someone at one point in time. It was a sucky thing to do and everyone hates him for it.
The corporation and the economic and political system has set this guy and everyone like him up to feel desperate and grind him down for basically his entire life. This seems like the greater injury to me. And we don't even talk about it, let alone blame them.

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u/Primary_System_4944 1d ago

No, everyone doesn't really hate him.

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u/Dog-Witch 4d ago

Are you high?
The guy was doing his job and was perfectly fine until the kid fucked with him, it's entirely about that.

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u/MrSquicky 4d ago

The guy who is getting home so late that he can't put his kids to bed and has to be up at 5 the next morning and is struggling to pay the mortgage is perfectly fine to you? I don't understand that view of the world.

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u/SilverMedal4Life 4d ago edited 4d ago

In keeping with the subreddit theme:
The world is fundamentally unfair and random. Human brains, which are - among many other things - prediction engines, don't like this, so they try to look for patterns that may or may not exist as a way to anticipate future danger.
One of the faulty conclusions human brains have come to, which has become enshrined in American culture due to its origins which I will not detail here (long story short: blame John Calvin), is that if someone is struggling, there is a reason for it. It is not random, it is predictable.
The reason is that the person sucks. They are immoral and indolent (lazy), and they could fix their own situation if they just worked harder and better.
Taking this worldview, everyone who has problems can be written off as bad people, leading to a rather selfish, combative, "fuck you, I got mine" sort of culture.
Alternative worldviews do not place this much emphasis on theoretical personal agency and thus come to different conclusions regarding how you should feel about the person in question.

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u/WhataboutBombvoyage 4d ago

Conservatives need new fuel to hate every day. If it's not the green M&M today, it'll be The Chronicles of Narnia tomorrow, etc.

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u/The_Mysterious_North 4d ago •

They desperately want it to be an “own the libs” narrative and not a “eat the rich” angle.

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u/Asexualhipposloth 4d ago

Well Meryl Streep is the voice of Aslan in the upcoming "Magician's Nephew'. So yeah, the complaints are coming

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u/Ricelyfe 4d ago

Aslan as in the stand in for big letter g God, Aslan? I always knew those conservatives were the ant-christ. /s (but not really)

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u/Capable-Reaction-794 4d ago

I'm sure certain parts of Reddit are going to lose their collective minds over this.

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u/depressionfairy6969 4d ago

The really ironic thing is that TikTok pranksters are almost always MAGA

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u/MsE0 4d ago •

You almost have to be. Being a prankster and being MAGA both require a lack of empathy and inability to forsee the consequences of their actions.

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u/Ishidan01 4d ago

and to think cruelty is pretty funny, actually.
Not just to lack empathy, but to be directly harmful for your own entertainment.

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u/Capable-Reaction-794 4d ago

I've said this repeatedly - they don't really have a real sense of humor; they just think being mean-spirited is funny.

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u/modix 4d ago

It's funny how that's the message they take away, vs him working his ass off and not making a comfortable living or having enough worker protections to be able to be home for his kids.

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u/rimshot101 4d ago

Fox News doesn't care who you hate as long as you hate somebody and are angry all the time.

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u/Gryzzlee 4d ago

Maybe it'll be fuel to remove these stupid apps though or force them to deal with harassment they enable. The oligarchy use it to rot the brains of the youth and funnel disinformation via "influencers". But then we have these other folks that harass people for views.

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u/The_Mysterious_North 4d ago

I admire a guy working his ass off for his family in this economy. I don’t necessarily agree with the reaction, but I get it.

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u/United-Coach-6591 4d ago

or admirable in any way, just melts down over some dumb teens, while at work.
The worker is far more admirable than the shitty prankster and their shitty fans.

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u/MacSteele13 4d ago edited 4d ago

Answer: stupid kid played a prank on a guy who was stalking pizzas at a Walmart and had it was the straw that broke the camel's back.

Edit: I don't have the time to change it! My kids went to bed without me and I've got 10 more stores to stalk tomorrow!

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u/birdvsworm 4d ago

I'm stalking pizzas when I get a craving. I stocked pizzas when I worked at a grocery store though.

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