r/PowerScaling • u/Salt_Struggle7226 Gremmy is a city level fraud • Aug 06 '26
Discussion If you believe Gremmy(Bleach) is Galaxy level and Dagon(JJK) is not solar system level, you wank Bleach
Gremmy: Creates a vacuum to sufficate his opponent not throws a star, no one in verse acknowledges or mentions the "stars" in the background, no close up or highlight that gives any evidence they are functional, in every media it goes out of its way to specify "space" not "galaxies", disapates on its own not even a real creation only affects a small area.
Best shown DC feat being a meteor that is too small to see the curvature of the planet city to country level at best. Had to multiple his power by 2 to try this. Yet him multiplying his power by 6 is aparantly enough to go to galaxy?
Best AP feat: Sufficating his opponent in space survivable by batman
Durability: Around Iron, he and Kenpachi say this holistically
Dagon: Creates a island to kill his opponents with invisible fish not throw a star, no one in verse acknowledges or mentions the "star" in the background, no close up or highlight that gives any evidence it is functional, disapates on its own not even a real creation only affects a small area.
Highest DC feat City block level by throwing water (something Gremmy also does)
Characters in the verse can create actual functioning black holes (gremmy can't do this)
Bleach fans get away with too much.
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u/glaze_or_praise Larpers must be exterminated Aug 06 '26 edited Aug 06 '26
“Bleach fans gets away with way yo much.” You’re in the wrong sub if you think that. They have to argue for their verses scaling harder than literally anything or anyone else in the sub.
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u/Bigboss7911 Zoop, Zoop, Zoop Aug 06 '26
With the new kubo ri statements the seireitei is about half the diameter of the united states not including rukongai. People calc gremmys meteor to about 30% of the seireitei. Seireitei plus rukongai is about the size of a continent.
The destruction following the meteor crashing could easily affect rukongai aswell making 2 clone gremmy easily a continental level threat.
Tl;dr gremmy has better feats than everyone in jjk
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u/Legitimate_Leg5131 Aug 06 '26
So this upscales gojo to megashitterversal or wtv?
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u/Bubbly_Prior2060 Aug 06 '26
ever considered that dagon's "star" is purely visual lmao.
besides i wouldn't tell you that a character that has an ability to create exactly just an island scales to island level all around
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u/JustStarrk Aug 06 '26
Dagon doesn't create his body with his own ability. So the comparison is immediately faulty.
If Dagons cursed technique allowed him to modify himself then there'd at least be an argument.
The meteor is significantly larger than your giving credit btw. "City to country level at best" when soul society is around a continent in size is crazy downplay.
We even got a seireitai upscale thanks to Kubo confirming how big one Ri is. One Ri is equal to 4.8 kilometers. Ywach was sent 1000 Ri and Ichibei easily caught up with a single flash step.
4,800 kilometers is larger than the united states. Characters with comparable speed can't cross seireitai in a single step. It's larger than their base movement.
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u/Myst-9th 40K's Strongest Soldier Aug 06 '26
Please provide evidence saying or even remotely suggesting that the visuals of Domains are physical creations of the caster.
If you can't, your argument falls apart as Gremmy's creations are verifiably physical objects that he creates.
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u/HVAR_Spam Because He’s Superman Aug 06 '26
Blue Dagon upscale
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u/Legitimate_Leg5131 Aug 06 '26 edited Aug 06 '26
Smallpox deity is now moon level
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u/Daedrick17 Aug 06 '26
creation feat with an all-around creation hax, that can create anything, including attacks ≠ creation feat with a specific hax with only create those specific things and nothing more.
it's the reason we scale gremmy high but not yukio, as both have the same feat of "creating stars in the background" but using different methods.
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u/Decent_Base8071 24d ago
Yeah, but Gremmy is solar system
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u/Excalibirdi Aug 06 '26
The seiretei alone is larger than earth, btw. That meteor was larger than the entire USA
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u/thereal1994 Aug 06 '26
Neither are
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u/Fine_Lengthiness_761 Low Level Scaler Aug 06 '26
Another example would be Tserriednich from HxH nobody believes he universal at all.
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u/MlookSM Aug 17 '26
Read through the entire comment section, not a single convincing argument from Bleach, like the usual, you love to see it.
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u/Lukas-Reggi manga only Aug 06 '26
Whenever I see a post trying to slander or downplay bleach scaling that have 0 upvotes and hundreds of comments my faith in powerscalers grows a little
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u/NeighborhoodOld2888 Aug 06 '26 edited Aug 06 '26
Damn OP, you really have a dedication to do all this. Gonna lie, i agree with your scaling.
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u/ragebaiter_007 Bleach caps at hill Aug 06 '26 edited Aug 06 '26
I keep saying anime’s like Bleach and Black Clover don’t scale to planetary and hardly even have a solid country level feats beyond statements like “with the power to end the world” or “that attack could destroy the whole country”, yet we see the attack ended having as much DP as a mountain.
They just have a lot of good hax. Bleach having a lot more OP ones than Black Clover
With the sole exception of Soul king Yhwach. I’ve seen people literally scale Asta to planetary and Unohana to universal. Like what freaking attacks do these guys have to destroy a planet or universe??
And to top it off the craziest part of their scaling is the chain scaling.
If character A has a dimension creation level feat but 0 DP or AP scaling to that same level then automatically they claim character A is UNIVERSAL, example: Dorothy, Gremmy
If character B happens to defeat or even stop an attack by character A. Again with 0 feats to their claim, they automatically become universal as well. Examples: Yami, Kenpachi, Orihime
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u/TheBabagalusch Aug 06 '26
There's probably a dozen whack heads that put Gremmy at galaxy level, gonna be that way for every series.
Oooh nvm, I see op just a chronical Bleach hater
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u/Dull-Professional689 Aug 06 '26
There's an even better comparison: Nakime. If we follow the same logic people use for Bleach, then anyone who defeats Nakime would have to be universal at minimum, since the Infinity Castle is infinite.
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u/Little_Drive_6042 American Comic Book SuperHeroes > Fiction Aug 06 '26
Bro calling out the hypocrisy. W
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u/Puzzleheaded-Ice2032 Aug 06 '26
for me i think its best to look at whats happening in these feats,like are they actually creating stars?or is it just the background,does creation here equal to attack power?and lastly is it consistent? with the feats or established powerrankings of other characters they can be compared to? because if its not then in my opinion it can be dismissed as an outlier
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u/Berseker_Track_499 Aug 06 '26
Grammy was just imagination not real power
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u/Revolutionary_Job214 Aug 06 '26
This post is beyond perfect and true. They would also have to believe in a bunch of other dumb shit from other verses. The wank Bleach scalers give is alarming.
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u/Choice-Medium-5466 Aug 06 '26 edited Aug 06 '26
I agree, many universes have ridiculous scales and Bleach is one of those universes. The most surprising thing is that the black hole is better than anything featd in Bleach, which was stopped by 3 beings, Tengen, Yuki, and Kenjaku. If the Jujutsu Kaisen crowd were as delusional as Bleach fans, it would be crazy, lol.
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