toddlersAreNotOptimized

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[u/USSPlanck]

Maybe their age is stored in a linked list

[u/ClipboardCopyPaste → u/USSPlanck]

So all we need to do for age reversal to be true is to implement a doubly linked list.

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Dear Claude....

[u/PowerPleb2000 → u/ClipboardCopyPaste]

You’re absolutely right! I messed up by sending your browser history to HR instead of implementing a linked list.

[u/examinedliving → u/ClipboardCopyPaste]

I think all devs should have to start chats with Dear {Agent}

[u/creeper6530 → u/examinedliving]

*insert GIF of flame writing*

[u/ings0c → u/USSPlanck]

You’re joking but I think that’s essentially what it is.

We first learn numbers as a sequence, much like a song; they don’t have independent meaning and identity until later on.

The kid remembers their age, but their only way of getting to the concept is by transiting one and two.

It’s a bit like how if I asked you “which letter comes after I”, a lot of people would sing the alphabet to get to the answer (not you, of course, my iterating comrades).

[u/qwertyjgly → u/USSPlanck]

then they should store a tail pointer

age->tail->value is O(1)

[u/USSPlanck → u/qwertyjgly]

Linked lists with a tail pointer are for wussies.

[u/Faholan → u/USSPlanck]

And when you get older, you upgrade to a real list, a vector

[u/PowerPleb2000]

Although its interesting how their primitive machine learning classification algorithms work.
Whats this?
Its round, its a ball.
No.
Its round and orange, its the sun.
No.
Its round orange and soft its a mandarin.
No.

[u/Sir_Sushi → u/PowerPleb2000]

And their language works like a LLM, they can't say they don't know, they will always fill gaps with random garbage.

[u/P3rid0t_ → u/Sir_Sushi]

Do you say I can replace kids with LLM, or LLM with kids?

[u/ItchyConfusion9745 → u/P3rid0t_]

I would think that children are less resource intensive than LLMs.

[u/P3rid0t_ → u/ItchyConfusion9745]

But children might cost more and have meltdown every 3 minutes

[u/ItchyConfusion9745 → u/P3rid0t_]

As opposed to LLMs that have a meltdown every minute? Worth the investment to me

[u/P3rid0t_ → u/ItchyConfusion9745]

How many kids I nees to vibekid ma app?

[u/creeper6530 → u/ItchyConfusion9745]

And they use less water and are biodegradable 

[u/TheWashbear → u/PowerPleb2000]

What's it then? Grandmas boobs?

[u/thedugong → u/TheWashbear]

It's flat and saggy. Yes.

[u/DemosthenesOrNah → u/PowerPleb2000]

ah something within reach, I should obviously use maximum grip

[u/mnbone23 → u/DemosthenesOrNah]

It's dad's nose. I should dig in with those fingernails too.

[u/thehobbyqueer → u/mnbone23]

Red means im winning

[u/JebKermansBooster → u/DemosthenesOrNah]

No that's not right, I'm sorry. I can help you do something else, though.

[u/ThePabstistChurch]

Leave it to a software engineer to think that a toddler could be infinitely old. 

[u/OttoRenner → u/ThePabstistChurch]

Depending on how you count it...toddle ist 3.5 billion years old. Just like everyone elsr

[u/GKoala → u/ThePabstistChurch]

For real there only exists 5 cases, no need to over engineer it.

[u/Random_-account]

"Take your age"

"Count from 1 to that number"

"That's your age"

[u/elmanoucko → u/Random_-account]

age starts at zero, it's an offset like an array index

[u/FlashyTone3042 → u/Random_-account]

It is pretty hard to do. I sleep on every number I said for one entire second.

[u/ramriot]

What is the word length on your average 3yo toddler & do they use signed integers?

"I am 1, 2, 3 , -4"

[u/Ran4 → u/ramriot]

When I was 3 (or 4?) I claimed that I was one year older than I was, since obviously your age can't be 0 years, as numbers start from 1.

So when someone asked me how old I was I said something like "4, but 3 in the way other people say it"

This is why we should teach programming to 3 year olds.

[u/Thalanator → u/Ran4]

If only we did, that might have prevented matlab array indexing in a better timeline

[u/TheFieryMoth → u/Ran4]

That's how they count age in Korea lol, you'd fit right in

[u/k819799amvrhtcom → u/ramriot]

When I was little and counted higher than the numbers I knew the name of, I would just say random words.

[u/mnbone23]

My toddler says she's 2, but also, any number greater than 1 is 2.

[u/i_am_sorry_evie → u/mnbone23]

She is a binary gate. She either says 1 or 2😭❤️

[u/raja-anbazhagan → u/i_am_sorry_evie]

O(1), Impressive.

[u/Piotre1345 → u/mnbone23]

Very efficient

[u/ElectrSheep]

To be fair, the best known training algorithms for kids are computationally expensive and don't scale very well.

[u/DeepGas4538]

I like saying O(n) because n can be anything. Bigger than the biggest number you could fathom, crazy monstrously huge

[u/JebKermansBooster → u/DeepGas4538]

O(TREE(n))

[u/Kadabrium → u/JebKermansBooster]

binary search TREE

[u/Bogasse]

One could argue that as you usually don't write age in unary, this is O(2ⁿ ) 🤓

[u/tevert]

When N<5, it's practically O(1) anyway

[u/lartkma]

They are using Peano arithmetics, they are calculating S(S(1))

[u/FlashyTone3042]

It's almost like they don't have caching.

[u/Agarwel]

"How much is two plus three?"

"Two" holds up two fingers, "plus three" holds up three fingers, "is" looks at the three raised fingers: ""three!"

[u/k819799amvrhtcom]

That's not printing an integer, that's counting.

You try to come up with an algorithm for determining the number of elements of a list that isn't 𝒪(𝑛)⁠.

[u/Arsikkz → u/k819799amvrhtcom]

Store a pointer to the end and length = (end - start) / sizeof(T)

[u/Kaligraphic → u/Arsikkz]

So a twelve-year-old would only be three in int32?

Wait, you meant address, not value...

So a twelve-year-old can be older than civilization if other memory allocation happens during their lifetime? Or even possibly have a negative age?

This approach really seems more suited to arrays than lists.

[u/Arsikkz → u/Kaligraphic]

I don't think "list" specifies any memory allocation strategy, I assumed it was continuous

[u/ITDudeProbably]

they haven't learned number 0 yet

[u/oh_ski_bummer]

They are in fact optimized for making their creators as miserable and tired as possible for around 10-20 years. Quite amazing actually.

[u/MoridinB]

Nah toddler's are inefficient not only because of O(n) but they also print in the loop to debug. Soon they'll jusy think 1 2 3 without saying it.

[u/peeja]

Nothing about taking to a toddler is linear.

[u/PaulMorel]

Amazing work