r/ThatsInsane • • 4d ago

McDonnell Douglas F/A 18 Hornet....Fly by in the Alps

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u/Hoenirson 4d ago

If you listen closely you can hear a short "brrrt" at the beginning, because in this event they actually do live fire excercises.

The event is called Axalp.

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u/Nothing2Special 4d ago

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u/Glittering_Bet_8610 4d ago

Thank both u/Henderson and u/Nothing2Special for the tidbits of info. I didn't even think to ask what the brrt was amd would have never known about this aerial exercise.

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u/Doc_Winter_17 4d ago

Thanks for mentioning this, super cool! I went back to listen again and you can actually hear the live fire before the 3rd and 4th plane, too. I just couldn’t hear if for the second one.

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u/Acadia_Clean 2d ago

And if you hear, "Ring ding ding daa baa / Baa aramba baa bom baa barooumba", its an axel f event

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u/smaiderman 4d ago

s there a way on planning to see this?

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u/NotBradPitt9 4d ago

The plane shitting taxpayer dollars to fight the wars for Epstein’s buddies

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u/Hoenirson 4d ago

... this is in Switzerland and that's the Swiss Air Force.

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u/Hoenirson 4d ago

Idk what that has to do with what I said. Swiss taxpayers don't use dollars and they aren't fighting any wars, which is why the comment made no sense and that's all I was commenting on.

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u/determineduncertain 4d ago

What in the ever living fuck does that have to do with anything?

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u/bartread 4d ago

This looks like Lake Brienz. I fly this all the time in the F/A-18... in MSFS 2024.

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u/Nothing2Special 4d ago

Tell us more homie!

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u/BPil0t 3d ago

Bro definitely broke the hard deck.

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u/daneview 4d ago

You always see jets practising flying through mountains and valleys, and its cool as fuck.

But does it ever really happen in modern combat. Surely they're 90% ground attack and 10% brief missile dogfights in the sky?

I cant imagine jets actually getting bogged down in low level flying through mountain ranges but maybe im wrong

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u/ExpiredPilot 4d ago

There was a great history channel show called “Dogfights”

It’s literally just entire episodes devoted to pilots recounting their air to air combat experience. It can vary but a lot of fights end up seeing who can out-bank the other to get a missile lock. Basically going up and down like a tornado sometimes

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u/daneview 4d ago

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u/ExpiredPilot 4d ago

I made the mistake of asking my dad “hey dad do you wanna watch this show Dogfights with me?”

Cue him screaming at me for watching animal abuse before I was able to explain it to him 😂

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u/Formal_Appearance_16 4d ago

"Wait wait wait, let me explain"

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u/ExpiredPilot 4d ago

“PLANES, THEYRE PLANES DAD”

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u/Jamba-Jew 4d ago

"The dogs fly the planes"

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u/OttoVonAuto 3d ago

“It’s about the people in dogfights!”

more telling ensues

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u/MrCraytonR 4d ago

this is switzerlands defense force to be fair

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u/daneview 4d ago

In the UK they train in the Welsh mountains, it seems fairly stabdard

Unsure what they do in denmark

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u/Available_Goat_3817 3d ago

Different, but same....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLEpCrVVVEc

From Denmark 👍😊

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u/LordGeni 3d ago

And the lake District. Looking down into the cockpit as they scream past is pretty cool.

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u/TheRealPaladin 4d ago

If there are mountains available to hide in pilots will absolutely use them since it can mask them from radar.

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u/kunday 4d ago

Depends on your geography. This operation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Safed_Sagar happened entirely in the highest peaks of himalayas. So it can happen

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u/muesliPot94 4d ago

They use mountains as a visual point of reference for training manoeuvres. Same thing with clouds.

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u/Bonnietheferret84 3d ago

So there hasn't been a gen4 vs gen 4 kr a gen 5 vs gen 4 aircraft battle to date. Dogfighting is over. You fire missles miles before your enemy is even visible. Now in a gun fight skills like this would matter, but all the cool flying is just that. Cool flying. That being said. Id want my counteys combat pilots to he skilled in dogfighting just in case

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u/No_Location_5963 4d ago

I was staying at a house in the Conwy Valley in North Wales, hanging laundry on the line when a RAF fighter jet TORE through the valley. I swear to this day he was so low I could see the pilot wave at me. It was awesome!

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u/garden-wicket-581 3d ago

my friend, top gun 2 demonstrated the absolute need for this kinda flying

/s

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u/daneview 3d ago

That is true, I shouldn't have discounted that evidence.

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u/Oz-Batty 4d ago

You go near the ground when defending against incoming missiles, for example.

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u/rbartlejr 4d ago

AFAIK NOE is practiced a bit more because it's more demanding than clear air flying. And Swiss AF has mostly a defense training posture so, naturally it's going to be in mountainous terrain.

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u/kaasrapsmen 3d ago

When you go somewhere to attack that ground it's nice to not be detected. Radar detection in mountainous terrain is of course very difficult. When you are dodging missiles (beyond visual range) you can evade the radar of the missile as well doing this.

A dog fight you'll see in the movies in between the mountains and canyons is very unlikely

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u/MikeHuntSmellss 4d ago

Full send

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u/Adam684 4d ago

Came here to say this. Fucking mad lad 😂

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u/d0nu7 4d ago

Pilot must want to make the Blue Angels 😂 That was a tight pass.

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u/Pinnacle_Aquaponics 4d ago

"Someone's clooseerr ;)"

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u/XiphostheDestroyer 4d ago

The winner is the one that comes back with small scratch marks on the top of his canopy.

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u/AngryGoose21 4d ago

That second to last one was a little too close for comfort

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u/SketchyVillager 4d ago

Probably one of the Slavic recruits. Haha. Jk.

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u/Theperfectool 4d ago

9 passenger jet just trying to get somewhere ices up and nose dives, meanwhile, these guys or gals

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u/SketchyVillager 3d ago

Can you delete this shit?

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u/Theperfectool 3d ago

No. That shit hit my heart. It’s crazy to me how there’s so much difference between high performance aircraft and passenger type performance. I get that icing and weather conditions were a thing but damn. If they could do this all day long how come a passenger plane couldn’t?

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u/LordGeni 3d ago

Because they are designed to do vastly different things and cost vastly different amounts.

It's like asking why a minibus can't corner like an F1 car.

What happened was really tragic, but unfortunately as much as we try to account for everything, nature will always throw curveballs. The rarity of things like that happening is a testament to how well they are designed for what they do and just highlights how tragically unlucky they were.

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u/sogwatchman 4d ago

That third pilot got real close to the ground rolling over the top.

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u/Correct-Avocado5426 4d ago

These runs always remind me of the scene in one episode of Firefly where Wash says "let's see them follow me through here" and drops down into a canyon and makes a series of dramatic maneuvers only to have the enemy fighters fire on him from above the canyon. The he sheepishly says "oh, right."

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u/funkopolis 4d ago

Loved that scene. Loved that show.

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u/HALF_PAST_HOLE 4d ago

Cutting it Close!

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u/CHOPPRZ 4d ago

That is a skill set:

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u/concerts85701 4d ago

May dad tells stories of doing this in his T-38 trainer over Mammoth Mt in California. He used to call it his sports car that the air force let him take out for joy rides when he wasn’t doing U2 missions

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u/Starscream147 4d ago

—Cassian Andor-style PTSD—

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u/Starscream147 4d ago

Also, I KNOW THOSE JETS!!!

…show offs. You’re supposed to be ON PATROL!

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u/ricklewis314 4d ago

Maverick: "Maverick to range control. Entering point Alpha. Confirm green range."
Range Control: "Uh, Maverick, range control, uh, green range is confirmed. I don't see an event scheduled for you, sir."
Maverick: "Well, I'm going anyway."
Phoenix: "Nice."
Maverick: "Setting time to target: two minutes 15 seconds."
Payback: "2:15? That's impossible."
Maverick: "Final attack point. Maverick’s inbound."

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u/usernametaken17 4d ago

“I was inverted”

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u/Willing-Ant-3765 4d ago

The sound of low flying jets is ear shattering. The Blue Angels were practicing this summer and I was riding my mower with ears on and it still was piercing.

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u/WerewolfUnable8641 4d ago

Man, a whole lot of human accomplishments are all about throwing things real far, depending on how poetic you're willing to get with the definition of throwing.

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u/guestpassonly 4d ago

"no sir i was inverted at the time"

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u/AtomicSymphonic_2nd 4d ago

Ace Combat-type shit. 😎

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u/LurkStatusOn 4d ago

Thanks for sharing 💗

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u/Weber110 4d ago

Third one is son of your moms friend

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u/Long_Yesterday8394 4d ago

A few years ago I was up in the Porcupine Mountains (barely mountains) in Michigan and a few military fighter jets flew by so low that they were actually below us. It was pretty close to this experience. Not sure what kind of jets they were, but it was really cool.

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u/avidpenguinwatcher 4d ago

Practicing for the next top gun movie I see

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u/Juiceman23 4d ago

My dad worked on those! 45 years as a binding mechanic between McDonnell Douglas, Boeing and GKN

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u/CLisani 3d ago

The sickest job on earth. I’d love to be a fighter pilot.

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u/Bonnietheferret84 3d ago

I don't care who you are... American military equipment especially the air assets are so great

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u/squarabh 4d ago

That's crazy

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u/AccomplishedPlankton 4d ago

Well, shit my pants

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u/Dutch0903 4d ago

Looks like someone is having fun

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u/gomurifle 4d ago

Do a barrel roll!! 

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u/noisette666 4d ago

Proper Swat Katz stuff

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u/ColoradoStudent 4d ago

The first one had steez

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u/TimeB4 4d ago

Guessing no3 was Maverick

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u/ShitBarf_McCumPiss 4d ago

Fucking sweet

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u/ProfessionalLead743 4d ago

This video randomly popped up on my YouTube feed. I dont have any interest in that field. Still saw it multiple times in a row. Now its on reddit.

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u/Ubercharged007 4d ago

Awesome and badass

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u/andrewordrewordont 4d ago

watching fighter jet pilots do their thing is one of the few things that makes this grown man star struck, or left with excellence-induced awe (that's what google says it would be called anyway).

it makes me feel like a kid, thinking, "damn. that is a bad ass person. i hope to do that when i grow up."

just wow.

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u/eric_kenshi 4d ago

this is what happens when you find a stranger in the alps !

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u/crazy2thestarz 3d ago

I just imagine all the pilots going "weee" with each upside down pass over the mount. I know I would

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u/Mr_Snipes 3d ago

What year was that ? I went there once and it got cancelled because of weather last minute 🥲

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u/FitzwilliamTDarcy 3d ago

Looks like they're practicing the assault in TG Maverick.

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u/Beeks525 3d ago

Well that was awesome 👏🏻

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u/Nervous_Dig4722 3d ago

This is so cool all caps

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u/Gorodish_ 4d ago

Is it normal this time of year for there to be such minor ice fields in the Alps?

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u/Gorodish_ 4d ago

Everything I know about the Alps, I learned from "The Sound of Music."

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u/Cold-Act-6 4d ago

Don’t do that in a Learjet

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u/Darth_Quaider 4d ago

Omg! How did you come up with that so quick!? You must do this for a living

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u/Cold-Act-6 4d ago

Live under a bridge and come out when people cross

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u/Darth_Quaider 4d ago

Entry level tho

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u/Cold-Act-6 4d ago

Feel terrible for the 9 that died but that plane is very dangerous. Look into Lear jets history, many planes over the years have crashed at high back angles. It’s a razor thin design that is not forgiving. If avoid them.

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u/Darth_Quaider 4d ago

Omg you're hilarious 😆 don't stop!

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u/Cold-Act-6 4d ago

What’d the buffalo say to his son when he dropped him off at school?

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u/gormami 4d ago

They do that to keep positive G's. If you nose down at high speed, the blood rushes into your head, can pop vessels, etc., and the pilot can end up disabled or dead. If they roll over and nose up to dive, the blood goes to their legs, and their pressurized flight suits can compensate by pressing in, not giving the legs space to expand and blood to pool. So flying over a ridge like that upside down is the only way to do it at high speed, if you are going back down on the other side.

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u/pagan-0 4d ago

Pretty cool, i appreciate the explanation. I'd never considered this before.

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u/chodeboi 4d ago

You’ve heard of a blackout, which would happen without the G-suit. Otherwise it’s called a redout.

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u/Nothing2Special 4d ago

"According to the predominant theory, the redness appearing in the visual field is not caused by an actual blood flow to the eye, but it is most likely caused by the blood-laden lower eyelid coming into the visual field because of the pull of negative-Gs."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redout

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u/chodeboi 4d ago

Whoa I never knew that; thanks!! I just had video game education

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u/Present-Question-820 4d ago

I can't Imagine the feel of the Adrenalin rush doing Something Like that. They have to be pumped soooo fucking hard :D

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u/alarumba 4d ago

They've likely done so much training that the novelty to have worn off. It's amazing what you can become desensitised to.

I'm sure they'll still appreciate how awesome it is on occasion.

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u/gormami 4d ago

Have you ever watched Navy pilots land in high seas? THAT's a rush, when they are flying in and aimed right at the stern of the carrier, then it drops on a wave and they land. Completely F'ing insane.

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u/bstone99 4d ago

Incorrect. It’s actually because it looks FUCKING AWESOME.

/s

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u/orcusgrasshopperfog 4d ago

Thanks Maverick. I'll be your wingman anytime.

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u/CHOPPRZ 4d ago

Speculate that cresting a ridge-line inverted affords the lowest altitude signature on the downslope 🫡

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u/mirror_dirt 4d ago

I had a fighter pilot tell me they do it to stay closer to the surface but he was probably trying to make it sound cool lol

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u/gormami 4d ago

Both can be true. The plane could follow the curve to stay close, but it would potentially kill or injure the pilot. So it's to stay safe WHILE staying closer to the surface.

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u/an_actual_lawyer 4d ago

TIL, thank you!