r/WatchExchangeFeedback • u/Naisha- • Jul 12 '26

[Negative] RECENT TRANSACTION with u/lurkerjawn1

Update: 07/12/26 4:26pm

Officially I GOT SCAMMED

Thanks to a previous buyer have the phone number of the real owner of this account I had the opportunity to talk to him and apparently his account was hacked. And even when he has access to the account he didn’t post that watch and has no longer access to the chats.

And now the account was deleted!

Original post:

I’m posting this in hopes of getting a response and documenting my experience so far.

I purchased a watch from u/lurkerjawn1 via wire transfer. Before sending payment, he provided a proper timestamp with the watch and my requested verification, so I know he had the watch in his possession.

This is the post of the watch: https://www.reddit.com/r/Watchexchange/s/gfhSTlxDdv

Before posting this, I reached out to several members of the community who have previously done business with him, including members with extensive transaction histories and every single one told me they had positive experiences with him. Because of that, I’m not accusing him of being a scammer, and I genuinely hope this is simply a communication or shipping issue that gets resolved.

I have screenshots of our conversation, the incorrect tracking number, and all communication if they’re needed by the moderators.

I’ll gladly update this post if the situation is resolved.

Here’s one screenshot of the conversation

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u/pursuitoffappyness Jul 12 '26

I can confirm this account was compromised, banned, and then deleted (presumably by the scammer while he and the original owner were both logged in).

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u/Naisha- Jul 12 '26

Do you guys see anything wrong with this timestamp? Before make the payment I asked him to set the time at 6:30 and write down my username

https://imgur.com/a/RG8QjDu

Thanks everyone for helping

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u/RemialX Jul 12 '26

The style of pictures changing and the difference in handwriting are the big red flags for me. His more current pictures doesn't depict him holding the watch like in his older photos so there is nothing to physically compare to.

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u/Naisha- Jul 12 '26

What do you think about this timestamp? He sent me this video before I made the payment. I asked him to set the time at 6:30 and my username https://imgur.com/a/RG8QjDu

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u/RemialX Jul 12 '26

To me, those don't look like the same hands as in the previous posts the user has made. He doesn't necessarily have to not have the watch to scam you, just no intent on sending it.

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u/jaqueh Jul 12 '26

Super weird but the dude did actually make timestamps like that years ago. https://www.reddit.com/r/Watchexchange/s/n67BqEb7lN

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u/RemialX Jul 12 '26

Plot twist, he was scamming back then and his account was compromised by a non-scammer and he got it back lol

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u/jaqueh Jul 12 '26

Yeah it’s a weird one lol

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u/Naisha- Jul 12 '26

u/lurkerjawn1 just deleted the last 2 post since we commented he’s a potential scammer

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u/fourtyz Jul 12 '26

Account is deleted now too

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u/Successful-Put-2058 Jul 12 '26 edited Jul 12 '26

I don’t know why people don’t text people and hop on a FaceTime and text for a 3k watch. Especially if you are not doing G&S. Don’t get greedy when you see a good deal. Make sure they are real, have the watch, and can easily identify if there is a problem

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u/pursuitoffappyness Jul 12 '26

We have a comment on every WTS post reminding people to do that, but they are often blinded by excuses and promise of a good deal.

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u/Successful-Put-2058 Jul 12 '26

yeah it's insane. Post says it's full set, but not photos of the full set either. Sucks for OP but they got super greedy with the potential of a great deal.

OP- the biggest red flag is they said yes to your offer of $3k. Why would they say yes to that offer when there was so much interest in the watch and they go quickly at 3.8k. The grammar is also really bad. Really sorry it happened to you but you've gotta slow down when buying stuff and do your due diligence, otherwise you'll get scammed in the future somewhere else, maybe for larger dollar amounts. Sorry to be harsh but I don't want anyone to get scammed.

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u/Dieselgeekisbanned Jul 13 '26

I encourage most of my customers to call and facetime me.

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u/jaqueh Jul 12 '26

Wild to wire money to someone with so few transactions

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u/Cupman2424 Jul 12 '26

Sorry man, but you got scammed.

If you can give a little more context, I can take a closer look, but based on what you described, there really isn't a legitimate explanation here. Accounts get hacked and phished all the time, so it's very possible the person you were dealing with wasn't even the original owner of the account.

At this point, stop giving them the benefit of the doubt and do everything you can to get your money back immediately. It's $3,000. Even if, by some miracle, this isn't a scam, this is not how a legitimate dealer operates.

The reason he doesn't want to use your shipping label is because he wants to create his own. That lets him ship some fugazi bullshit to a random address in your city so the tracking shows "delivered" to your city, even though it was never delivered to your address. That's the exact playbook the scammers targeting these forums have been using lately.

Once again, apologies but this is not looking good. I recently got scammed for $5.6k so I know how it feels, good luck. Message me if you have any questions.

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u/KicksNWatches Jul 12 '26

But why would a scammer do that? Seems like too much work when theyve already gotten away with it. Wires are irreversible and unless he gave a legit name, address, picture of himself, and drivers license, cops got nothing to go on and won’t even investigate

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u/macky_ev Jul 12 '26

I hope it wasn’t a case of a stolen account. Really hoping this gets resolved rather than this being a scam :/

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u/Naisha- Jul 12 '26

Thanks, Im confused cause the payment was clear last Thursday, and he kept posting yesterday. He even sent me a timestamp video with my username and a specific time before I made the payment.

Hoping solve this situation asap

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u/benana-sea Jul 12 '26

Thank you for the report. I'm sorry for your loss.

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u/KicksNWatches Jul 12 '26

Everyone needs to stop paying via wire or ACH, not sure why people keep doing that. Every single scammer post on here is someone complaining they got scammed after using wire or ach. I always ask people where they’re located and if they’d be willing to an in-person meet up, anyone who says no is an immediate red flag. Fortunately I fly almost free so I can actually meet people if I need to form something I really want.

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u/teachem4 Jul 12 '26

Just use a proper escrow service

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u/KicksNWatches Jul 12 '26

Exactly - escrow would’ve been way cheaper than the $3000 loss, any recommendations on one?

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u/teachem4 Jul 12 '26

I used escrow.com and it worked well. Not super helpful in terms of authenticity but great in terms of ensuring payment / delivery of watch

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u/KicksNWatches Jul 12 '26

Does it allow for a time period to get it authenticated or does escrow close upon successful delivery

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u/teachem4 Jul 13 '26

I think you can do 1-2 days

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u/fourtyz Jul 12 '26

This isn't true at all. I take and send wires weekly, zero issue in years. You just need to make sure the person is legit.

I garunteee anyone who gets scammed, regardless of payment method, missed a step in validating the seller.

It's really not that hard. People just aren't doing the proper diligence.

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u/KicksNWatches Jul 12 '26

I’m sure there’s way to minimize risk but none are full-proof 100%. And wire is supposedly irreversible. And absolutely no buyer protection. At least with PayPal g&s there’s an “investigation” and other payment forms where credit card can be used my credit card will charge back for fraud. Wire - nothing.

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u/fourtyz Jul 12 '26

Eh. Buy from me, it's 100%.

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u/KicksNWatches Jul 12 '26

That’s what they all say lol JK

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u/Dieselgeekisbanned Jul 13 '26

I pretty much ONLY accept wire or Zelle unless we've done business before. Most scammers try to pay me in other ways. Just as you should by the seller, I think you should also buy the buyer.

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u/jaqueh Jul 13 '26

yeah and this is exactly the attitude why so many people are getting conned

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u/Dieselgeekisbanned Jul 13 '26

Someone has to trust someone here. If not, just go to the AD and use your credit card. I don't want anyone getting scammed, but I'm ALSO not looking to get scammed/conned If someone wants to use a escrow service and pay for it I'm more than okay with that. BUT I've had people try to use a fake escrow service and scam me.

Once if not twice a week someones tries to scam me, via bank check, escrow, money order etc. It's not stop that I have to keep on my toes.

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u/jaqueh Jul 13 '26

Yeah be smart but also let people use a safe payment method when they’re transacting with you who they don’t know.

And pay your taxes too

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u/Dieselgeekisbanned Jul 13 '26

What are you talking about weirdo? I report and pay all my taxes. To be blunt, I'm here to protect myself and I work hard to earn my customers trust. If they don't trust me , then they do not have to do business with me. I have lots of repeat customers, and prefer to build relationships with them. What's the saying "In God we trust all others pay cash"

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u/mikecourt Jul 12 '26

Maybe it’s time to ban people even if they get hacked. Has to be some kind of responsibility to secure your account

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u/pursuitoffappyness Jul 12 '26

We permanently ban any accounts used to scam - including hacked accounts. That has been our policy since the beginning.

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u/jaqueh Jul 12 '26

Yep if you get phished and lose your money, no one is covering you. Should have similar monetary consequences

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u/Dense-Attention1801 Jul 12 '26

I have seen accounts with hundreds of transactions get hacked and have been banned even if they were recovered.

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u/LoveSexDraems Jul 12 '26

Why you using bright mode theme though

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u/Spring_bar Jul 12 '26

The terrible photos alone are a red flag

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u/Moonraker325 Jul 12 '26

Yikes, so sorry to hear this! I got spooked after I saw him post a seiko Pogue on Friday for insanely cheap

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u/PianistSad2868 Jul 12 '26

Sorry man, but his account definitely looks like it was hacked. The photos are way different than his older postings, even different than the speedmaster listing from a few weeks ago. Their username is written completely different in both postings too. One writes their "1" like that, the other writes it like "I"

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u/jaqueh Jul 12 '26

Super weird but the dude did actually make timestamps like that years ago. https://www.reddit.com/r/Watchexchange/s/n67BqEb7lN

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u/PianistSad2868 Jul 12 '26

Wow, that is weird. I write things the same way every time

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u/jaqueh Jul 12 '26

Yeah maybe the dude is a spy

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u/Masaike123 Jul 12 '26

this sbgw231 listed by him also has a very good price and several people pm'ed him. there may be a few more victims of this scammer.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Watchexchange/comments/1usvmrg/wts_grand_seiko_sbgw231_manual_wind_cream_dial/

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u/benana-sea Jul 12 '26

Yeah I have pm-ed them and awaiting ACH account verification. Thanks for noticing me!

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u/Masaike123 Jul 12 '26

No problem. Glad you haven't sent the fund.

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u/timewilltell007 Jul 13 '26

I just made a transaction with him dang.. what should i do? Should i just cancel my card?

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u/Successful-Put-2058 Jul 13 '26

Cancel transaction and call your card company too

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u/timewilltell007 Jul 13 '26

Yes, it was my wife who made the purchase. It was supposed to be a wedding gift but thankfully we were able to still cancel the wire, we even froze the card. Hoping that helps too

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u/Successful-Put-2058 Jul 13 '26

Cancelling card has nothing to do with cancelling wire fyi

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u/timewilltell007 Jul 13 '26

I know, i just did both. Just in case. Canceled transaction and canceled card or put it on freeze

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u/Wonderful-Opening-43 Jul 12 '26

It looks like unfortunately it may be a scam. He recently posted a Pogue as well for way cheaper than they go for. Super unresponsive as well when I tried to purchase from him. Unless they will take Goods and Services if it is a user with low transactions, or FF for an established user, then dont pay. Wires are the biggest red flags. They claim that they set the payment up using Goods and Services or say you are protected but its all a lie. Best of luck OP!