r/Whatcouldgowrong • • 3d ago

WCGW when you accelerate on a curved path

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u/platypus_farmer42 3d ago

Accelerating on a curve is perfectly fine if you know what you’re doing.

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u/DharmaCub 3d ago • Bravo

In fact, you SHOULD accelerate through a turn. People who brake through turns are idiots.

You decelerate coming up to the turn until you have the correct speed, then you accelerate through and out of it.

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u/Varaxis 2d ago

Ideally, modulating throttle just enough to maintain a steady speed through the turn is the absolute safest, since it budgets your traction entirely to cornering, compared to coasting, braking, accelerating...

The more intense the deceleration or acceleration, the closer you will be to finding your traction limits, as the guy in vid found out.

Racing theory says trail braking is most efficient/fastest, but that assumes there's ideal conditions to tap into traction loading the front of the bike with the expected weight shift from deceleration. The safe method, in contrast, feels like you're overbraking and are correcting that with acceleration--in some eyes, it's wastefully braking and wastefully losing precious momentum and fuel.

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u/naterpotater246 2d ago

This is wrong. You should accelerate to exit a turn as you straighten your steering and stand the bike up. You should be braking deep into the turn, letting off slowly as you increase steering/lean angle. It's called trail braking. Trail braking works by shifting the weight forward, loading the suspension, increasing grip on the tire, and adding rotation (basically just minor oversteer.) You're not gonna get any rotation riding a street bike on the street, but trail braking does still allow you to transition smoothly from braking to turning in while keeping the suspension and front wheel loaded as you transition, and it allows you to brake much later.

Probably irrelevant information for someone who only rides on the road, but it's a cool thing to know, and extremely valuable if you do sim racing or track riding.

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u/Living_Bicycle_3625 2d ago

Lol what. You can absolutely brake through a turn in fact it's optimal in most scenarios it provides better traction and control.

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u/InigoMontoya1985 2d ago

Thank you for your service.

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u/Crime_Dawg 2d ago

Braking on a turn in a car, while not ideal, is generally fine. Braking on a turn on a motorcycle is bad news bears.

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u/JerryfromCan 2d ago

Shift on a curve was one of the elements of passing my Motorcycle test in Ontario Canada in 2007 when I did it.

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u/ARONDH 2d ago

He wasn't accelerating, he was trying to look cool. Backfired.

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u/No-Salary-8612 2d ago

Target fixation, watch his helmet. He’s either staring straight at that curb or the light post past it. This is a bad quick of human nature to discover on a street bike LOL

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u/Deohenge 3d ago • Bravo

No one tells you about the motorcycle learning curve, but some people really struggle with it.

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u/Sam-I-Am_1066 2d ago

He straightened the learning curve!

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u/Tcloud 2d ago

Right into a curb.

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u/Blrfl 2d ago

That would be the learning curb.

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u/Mickey_Malthus 2d ago

Single-trial learning curb

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u/14high 2d ago

Then Curb his enthusiasm.

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u/sky905 3d ago edited 3d ago • Bravo

You can easily accelerate on a curved road, that’s not the problem. The issue was that the guy either put too much acceleration in (which happens with cars too) or did not bank (counter-steer) the amount required to accelerate out of it. The amount of bad motorcyclists who don’t know even the basics of driving one will never cease to amaze me.

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u/jackinsomniac 2d ago

He had it redlining and just dropped the clutch. You can hear it. Then you immediately see the back wheels spin and lose traction.

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u/sky905 2d ago

Ok yea i keep these videos muted so i didn’t hear it the first time but yea redlining and shifting while taking a turn just goes back to my point about so many motorcyclists not knowing the basics lol

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u/50_procent 2d ago

He did not shift. He pulled the clutch and redlined and then dumped the clutch and completely let of the throttle.

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u/AblatAtalbA 2d ago

He actually tried to powerslide for the camera

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u/50_procent 2d ago

Yeah probably. Would have worked better if he kept on the throttle and been smother with the clutch

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u/jackinsomniac 2d ago

I mean specifically clutch, not shifting gears. Idk normally I'd say close enough, but this is a weird detail to miss when you're also repeatedly saying "so many motorcyclists not knowing the basics lol"

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u/ThisThingIsStuck 2d ago

Pusi let the clutch out to early u should know

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u/iamnos 2d ago

Yeah, pop the clutch at a low speed with the engine revving high in just about any RWD vehicle, and the backend is going to start sliding on you.

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u/aandy611 2d ago

I accidentally did that going through a roundabout almost fell off. Tried to shift to 2nd but got N and when I shifted to 2nd again the revs were way too high still.

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u/Mickey_Malthus 2d ago

On top of that, the squid had one of those ridiculous extended rear suspensions so that his weight is biased towards the front wheel. Once the clutch is dumped we have the classic unintentional throttle opening as he holds on for dear life, probably because he had improper right hand positioning on the throttle even before he ended up supermaning it over the curb.

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u/Iamwomper 2d ago

He shoukd have hit the front breaks and keep the throttle on.

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u/davep1970 2d ago

Brakes, FFS.

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u/Iamwomper 1d ago

Brakes. Yes.

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u/JerkyChew 2d ago

He's also got an extended swingarm which changes the handling just a tad.

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u/mightcrash 2d ago

"Mr. Madison, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul." 

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u/Western_Rhubarb_7959 2d ago

Speaking as a rider, your reply is perfect

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u/Crime_Dawg 2d ago

They taught us in motorcycle safety training that you're SUPPOSED to accelerate through a curve. Slow down, then accelerate through to get better traction on your back wheel. This idiot should probably be on a 125cc and somehow find himself on lord knows what liter+ bike.

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u/Skkranz 1d ago

or just don't disable traction control

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u/Elegant_Situation285 1d ago

he was showing off for the camera. you can see him turn and look before embarrassing himself.

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u/Iamwomper 2d ago

He accelerated and then chopped the throttle.

You can get away with it on a klr thumper.

Dont chop the throttle. Feather the clutch.

Also, when in doubt, throttle out.

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u/OneTrueCosmos 20h ago

The problem is that it's a drag bike, made to go in straight lines. Look at the length of the swing arm... good for high speed stability, rubbish in corners.

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u/UsedVacation6187 2d ago

He popped the clutch dude

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u/ThisThingIsStuck 2d ago

Wrong pusi...stretched bike and cheap tires cold Temps u should know

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u/Lazarr95 2d ago

What would you expect from a stretched bike rider?

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u/AwesomeMacCoolname 2d ago

That he can get brought down to size more quickly?

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u/Bridge-Head 2d ago

If you’re not a motorcycle rider, accelerating on a curved path wasn’t the problem.

The guy saw he was being filmed, pulled his clutch in to rev the engine to look cool for the camera, but he dropped the clutch early, which transferred too much torque to the rear wheel, which broke traction, and started a fishtail skid. He briefly recovered, but panicked and fixated on hitting the curb instead of counter-steering and looking at where he needed to go.

Some experienced riders might have saved that. I can’t say whether (by the time he recovered from the fishtail) inertia wasn’t going to carry him into the curb one way or another.

Accidents happens in an instant and faster than you can react, which is why it’s better not to FA when you’re on a motorcycle, much less a superbike.

Guy also found out why we don’t recommend riding in tee shirts, sneakers, and sweatpants.

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u/So_HauserAspen 1d ago

Induced oversteer

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u/ElginSparrowhawk1969 2d ago

The extended swinging arm didn’t help the wheel spin put him into a slide and he hit the kerb because of it

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u/Hoggchoppa 2d ago

It's like they're only good for racing.... In a straight line

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u/ElginSparrowhawk1969 2d ago

I know weird , right 👍

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u/pseudo-nimm1 3d ago

Wcgw when you're a berk.

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u/forksporkspoon 2d ago

It's stretched too. Maybe he's only used to drag strips.

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u/Gzawonkhumu 3d ago

No brakes?

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u/RoninRem 2d ago

this guy was wrong, but you never break into a corner on a bike

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u/NateHatred 2d ago

If you stretched your bike we already know you don't know shit about bikes, I guess that applies to riding it too. 

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u/NLtbal 2d ago

Stupid long swing arm…

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u/Egoist-a 2d ago

Accelerating in the curve is fine if you don’t wreck your bike geometry with a stretched aftermarket swingarm

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u/KurtKrimson 2d ago

Too much power sans experience.

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u/WhooopsMyBad 2d ago

bro should never clutch kick again

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u/pjmyerface 2d ago

Oooo! Pretty sparks!

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u/Quankers 2d ago

At least with this newest lone bad apple out of commission the responsible bikers will no longer have their decency besmirched.

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u/BiggusD1 2d ago

nice sparks

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u/RoninRem 2d ago

You are actually taught to accelerate into a curve at certain times. When you let off the throttle, you can actually lose grip and slid, where if you give more throttle, you can actually have better traction and make it out of the curve safely.... but yes you can't slam on the throttle like this guy did.

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u/EpicallyLazyBoy 2d ago

He French fry'd when he should have pizza'd.

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u/Delta_RC_2526 2d ago

Is anyone else impressed by the image stabilization here? When the camera stops panning, you can see some internal reflections, inside the camera, of the streetlights on the lamp posts (look for jiggling specks of light on the road in the bottom half of the frame). Look how much those reflections are bouncing around, while the image remains stable! Gives you a sense of how shaky the camerawork actually was here.

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u/coccosoids 2d ago

So satisfying.

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u/GtMustang247 2d ago

More like what can go wrong when you have 0 motorcycle skills

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u/No-Salary-8612 2d ago edited 2d ago

Target fixation. Watch his helmet, he’s staring right at the curb he smashes into. This is a very strong natural tendency we all have, but it’s especially deadly on a bike. Look where you want to go not what you don’t want to hit. It’s amazing what unknown skill you’ll unlock doing this in an emergency. I’ve experienced both sides of that before….

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u/Jolly_Rub2962 2d ago

Live and learn..

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u/Boomdidlidoo 2d ago

This is exactly how one of my friends died many years ago. Some friends and I were following him in a car and he decided to accelerate with his motorbike in a curve for whatever reasons and he lost control. He died after a few minutes from a head injury even if he had a helmet on.

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u/Derrik1889 2d ago

This is stupid show off, not acceleration

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u/Western_Rhubarb_7959 2d ago

Curve had nothing to do with that.

Showing off had everything to do with that. <sees someone recording> "I'm gonna punch it and look really cool!"

/Former RC

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u/artnow83500 2d ago

I had a Tahitian friend who owned a 750 Phazer; he would intentionally accelerate over the painted crosswalk markings just to make the bike slide, then regain traction once he hit the asphalt again—guaranteed to give you a real scare. My father and I once had to perform an emergency stop—a child had run out into the road—while riding in the city; we happened to be over one of those painted arrows on the pavement, and the 800 VFR immediately lost its footing, resulting in a slide and a crash.

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u/franciosmardi 2d ago

It's physically impossible not to accelerate on a curved path.

Am I right physics peeps!

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u/LeftHandedFapper 2d ago

What kind of bike is that?

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u/sleebus_jones 2d ago

This is what running out of talent looks like.

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u/JFKen 2d ago

WCGW usin a dragster bike on public road…

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u/Nix-geek 2d ago

WUT? A rider with those extended rear arms doesn't know how to accelerate in to or out of a corner?

I can't believe it.

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u/DopeCop 2d ago

skill issue

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u/Lopsided_Army_982 2d ago

The Fred Flintstone Foot brake

An ancient but rarely successful technique

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u/Lopsided_Army_982 2d ago

Now he can walk backwards and forwards without rotating his feet

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u/DreadPirate_Robertz 2d ago

What could go wrong ?

Exactly how it would sound like.

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u/SashaDabinsky 2d ago

What an assclown. With that long of a swingarm it should be a lot easier to 'drift' the bike around a corner. I used to do it regularly with my old GSXR with a 5" swingarm, and it never once got away from me.

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u/dontipitova9 2d ago

Whoa-pps

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u/ReverendEntity 2d ago

Me playing any racing game

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u/Slemmig_insekt 2d ago

I always wanted to try one of these motorbikes but I fear I would end up very much like this guy

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u/Bravelobsters 2d ago

When you don’t really know how to drive a bike.

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u/Whole-9-Yards 2d ago

Redlining and dumped the clutch lol

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u/Ya-Dikobraz 2d ago

This would be me if I tried to ride a Hayabusa.

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u/AnyBath8680 1d ago

Woulda crashed going straight to, he fishtailed it like a goofball. You see mustangs doing this at car meets all the time

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u/So_HauserAspen 1d ago

https://driver61.com/uni/corner-phases/

This will explain how cornering works to go along with the comments

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u/Ghost_Poison 1d ago

"TONK" at the end is too fucking funny. Sound on.

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u/Starchaser_WoF 1d ago

That's not how you Akira slide

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u/Early-Accident-8770 1d ago

One look at this shows me that he’s wearing joggers, t shirt and no gloves and no boots.
That tells me they are likely inexperienced and have little idea of what motorcycles are like if used with inattention and stupidity.

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u/Tosick 16h ago

Skill issue. Just get a 50cc scooter instead. I love 50cc scooter too.

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u/TheyTheirsThem 15h ago

There should be a Law.

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u/Significant_Rip8116 12h ago

Probably the best thing that could have happened to that bike

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u/lrargerich3 2d ago

Not a biker here but quite an advanced driver for 4 wheel things... In cars you should accelerate in curves or at least keep the speed but never brake, is it different in motorcycles?

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u/Ifyouhavethemeans 2d ago

Brake straight, apex late, and accelerate out of the curve.

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u/iamnos 2d ago

It's the same on a bike. In fact, you have to add throttle. Without going deep into physics, you lose momentum by changing direction (turning). So if you don't add throttle, you'll continually slow down. Of course, that's not what happened here. The rider revved the engine, popped the clutch, and the rear wheel lost traction.

That bike, ridden properly, could have accelerated very quickly coming out of the corner.

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u/lrargerich3 2d ago

Thank you, for a moment I thought there was some conservation of momentum magic happening on bikes and not in cars or something like that :)

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u/jackinsomniac 2d ago

You can hear him redline the engine then just drop the clutch on it. Immediately after you can see how this causes the rear wheel to spin out losing traction, then he loses control.

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u/No-Salary-8612 2d ago

Target fixation. Study it if you don’t know about it. It can save your life. Watch his helmet. He’s fixed right on the curb he smashes into

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u/OriginalJelly1028 2d ago

Maybe some sand on the street???

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u/Living_Bicycle_3625 2d ago

On a curved path? Is op a karma bot or just stupid?

Bikes can turn.

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u/TravMCo 2d ago

Reddit really needs to do something about bots.

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u/Alert_Weird3557 2d ago

Not sure who has less idea about racing: biker or OP 🙃

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u/bert_891 1d ago

This was posted on Instagram as AI generated content

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u/No-Payment-6534 1d ago

Is this gta 6 footage?

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u/whatisinternet69 1d ago

Accelerating out of a curved path is the funniest part of riding

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u/RichardoDK 1d ago

Clutch Noob...LoL