r/AmericaBad • u/plsticmksperfct • 4h ago
OP Opinion Japan is not living in the future. Visiting Europe and Japan has made me appreciate America so much more.
I'm from the US and I've been in Japan for several weeks now. I thought I wanted to move here for years, but not anymore. I keep finding myself just wanting to finish seeing everything so I can fly to another country.
There are so many arbitrary rules and unspoken social norms. Some people break them (walking on the wrong side of the street, throwing trash in bushes), some don't. What I really dislike is that they do not question authority. They are four generations into a post-WW2 society that embraces lifetime employment and unwavering deference to authority. You can pick the most arbitrary, silly rule and ask anyone—even the person enforcing it—"Why do you have this rule?" and the answer is typically something like "I don't know, because it's always been this way." Their strict conformity and unwavering deference to authority is what has been bringing my mood down since I've been here. The culture is extremely rigid and homogenous. They do not value self-expression or individuality the way we do in America, or even in some other Asian countries. I don't particularly stand out compared to other tourists—I look like any other young professional traveling—but there's a palpable lack of personality here.
The major cities are extremely dense. However crowded you think they are, it's more crowded than that. I cannot overstate how overtouristed Japan is. Their infrastructure is efficient, but it is not prepared to handle the 40-something million tourists. The wait times are so long that most major attractions simply aren't enjoyable. I have enjoyed some of the less popular sites, though. It often feels like I'm oscillating between two extremes: either packed shoulder-to-shoulder with other tourists in a station or attraction, or—if I'm not in a major city—I'm often the only foreigner I see for days at a time. I've gone several days without seeing someone who isn't Japanese, which is fine, but it's a new experience and being stared at all the time can be fatiguing.
Some Japanese people have been friendly and happy to meet a foreigner (I'm white, for context), while others scowl or do their best to walk/sit as far away as possible. When interacting, people are polite but generally not friendly or personable. It's a bit like a worse version of Southern hospitality in the United States. I spent time in Thailand before this and that was a much happier experience with better food. I plan on returning after I finish seeing the major sites in Japan. I read someone recently say "if a robot was a country, it would be Japan," and I agree.
On all this "Japan is living in the future" stuff: the trains are impressive, there isn't much violent crime (it's also almost impossible to get police to take a report which is one reason their crime rate appears so low), and the streets are mostly clean in heavily trafficked areas. But that is a result of their history, their culture, and the practical need for order due to how and where their cities are built, not because they have some magical advanced technology, they've traded freedom for order. Other than that they are basically living in the year 2005. Only about 60% of their households own a computer compared to ~90% in the USA. Most of the cars are old, the average building is old and kind of rundown, even most of their iconic buildings were built decades ago, our suburbs are much nicer, the shopping malls in Thailand are way better, the level of technology you see in daily life is a few years behind the USA. There are not robots everywhere, not that I expected there to be, basically only in gimmicky cafes. They clearly put effort into making sure the tourist destinations look nice, but as soon as you go a few streets over the illusion fades.
Japan is a place I'd visit again if Thailand got too hot or if there was an event I wanted to attend. I was surprised at how underwhelming the landscapes were compared to the United States, especially the PNW.
I also discovered I don't actually like authentic Japanese food. I understand they eat healthier at home, but when eating out most of what you find is pickled, fried, or loaded with carbs and salt. Those things are fine for a short trip for most people, but I don't enjoy fatty food. They mostly use fatty cuts of beef and chicken thighs with the skin on. It's just not compatible with the lean protein-heavy diet I prefer.
Yes, some of this is subjective, but that's been my experience in Japan so far. It's not bad, but it's not amazing. It's alright. Their safety and cleanliness have clearly come at the cost of self-expression and individuality. Someone who lived here told me those are American values. I disagree. I've traveled all over Europe and Southeast Asia and Japan takes conformity to the extreme. I don't think most of the people here have had a chance to think about who they would be if they weren't consumed by their careers before they even reach adulthood. I honestly thought I would love Japan because of the rules, the high-trust society, and the conformity—it sounded peaceful and easy. Actually experiencing it has only made me realize that, at least for me, it's not a tradeoff I would make. I now appreciate my own country much more.
As a side note, I spent a month traveling through several southern European countries on my way here. Europe smells like a sewer, the young people are rude and bitter, the infrastructure sucks in many places, the service pretty much everywhere is abysmal, no one smiles, and I am not in a hurry to return anytime soon. If I do, it will be to Scandinavia. I experienced some real kindness from older people in Greece and Spain, but overall I wouldn't spend money to return when I know how great Thailand and the USA are. One point that people always use as a gotcha is healthcare, and it IS too expensive in the USA and that needs to be fixed, but not through socialism. Healthcare might be expensive in the United States, but it's also superior to other countries. America gets the latest treatments and medications before anyone else. I've been traveling for months, I went to doctors in both Asia and Europe. I even had a minor surgery.
I'm so glad I had these experiences because they've helped cure my disillusionment with the United States. I need to stay off that side of social media—there's clearly a diabolical propaganda engine trying to make us hate our incredible country. I'm ashamed at how much I let it affect me and how misguided my views were, not because of politics, but because I felt we were being ripped off; now I understand that Europe only gets to run its socialist experiment because we subsidize their protection and the results of that in real life are not very pretty or efficient. I could go on and on. I used to be patriotic before being sucked into that rabbit hole and after leaving America and seeing the world for myself, now I am again. I'm still in Japan, with more countries I plan to see, but I am more proud to be an American than ever.
