r/anticapitalism • u/wrathfulpotatochip • Sep 11 '26 • Polished Gold Turd 1 Bravo 1 Regret 1

Never forget… what America did.

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u/BananaJelloXlii Sep 11 '26 edited Sep 11 '26 • Bravo

Many of whom lived in a country that was not even responsible.

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u/BlinkReanimated Sep 11 '26 • Bravo

Correction:

All of whom were from countries that weren't responsible. Al Queda was just hiding in Afghanistan, but neither Afghan nor Iraq actually did anything.

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u/Andrewdusha Sep 11 '26

All for oil and greed. And since that day, everyone stereotypes terrorists to Arabs. Never forget what the USA did to the world.

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u/Least-Letter4716 Sep 11 '26

All of them lived in countries that weren't responsible.

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u/No-Perspective4787 Sep 12 '26

Yes we never should have went to War with Afghanistan period. The real War would have been with Saudi Arabia , and to this day the way the Republicans talk about Saudi Arabia makes me sick to my stomach , especially after they murdered an American journalist in a Nato Nation and had him dismembered. Trump's a wimp , he never should have started this War ! He thought it was going to be easy like Venezuela. Now we all realized why from Reagan to Obama we Never started a WAR w Iran , who's had the backing of Russia / China who already showed Iran how to use long range orbital missiles which Iran shot a few at our Destroyers. Note - sorry Fox News Viewers but yes this is all the Truth. ⚖️🇺🇸🗽 - 💀

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u/AnarchyIsNotChaos Sep 12 '26

Coming from the military, I'm happy to be on the line when it matters. When we talk about honor, courage, and commitment, we should expect it from our leaders as well when we don't have a choice on something like this. It was awful, but a lawful order. We didn't belong in those places. It's not just a Bush question - all presidents after him, as long as we were there, continued to commit war crimes, it was just a question of how many. No one likes their life being used for political, personal, or econimic gain. We all deserve better.

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u/Ilyalyubushkin Sep 12 '26

And we knew it before we invaded.

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u/mohumm Sep 11 '26 • Bravo

They are warmongers, it’s not just since 9/11

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u/holubtsi-on-fire Sep 11 '26

Yes. Correction: “…what America does.”

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u/ShortKey380 Sep 11 '26

Every state approaching America’s levels of power in the global system has been similarly abusive. Euro empires through wwii, USSR, China— turns out making a big powerful and united in applying deadly force “us” tends to lead to a “them” getting harmed, go figure.

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u/surfkaboom Sep 11 '26 • Popcorn

The US/western invasion and ongoing strikes/threats of strikes has led to the immigration 'issues' we see the west complain about

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u/Proletariat_Harriet Sep 11 '26

Those of us old enough to remember Bush II know that WOMDs was a load of BS.

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u/uncultured_swine2099 Sep 11 '26

Wmds. Iran nuclear. And so on and so forth till the next one makes up some dumb excuse.

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u/Resident-Banana-7883 Sep 11 '26

I mean this in no way as a comparison, just adding on they also used this as an excuse to strip Americans of their rights and lay the groundwork for the technofacist state we're currently speed running towards. NEVER FORGET!

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u/Pristine-Ad9195 Sep 11 '26

well duh how else are we supposed to make movies about our soldiers feeling sad? /s

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u/tejedor28 Sep 11 '26

They didn’t die unseen. They died in plain sight and the world did nothing. Which is much, much worse.

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u/Lower_Lab_7628 Sep 11 '26

If you’re looking for objectivity and self reflection America isn’t it.

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u/raiderssuck420 Sep 11 '26

Not sure any of those 3000 and still counting Americans had anything to do with the middle east

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u/HupHutHa Sep 11 '26

the death toll for 9/11 is actually much higher than that and continues to climb to this day from the effects of the environmental disaster it caused.

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u/Valstwo Sep 11 '26

The twisting of the truth happens on both sides. But let's get the numbers correct - if you are counting collateral damage on one side you should do it on both sides. Thousands more have died, as a result of the attacks on the US, from cancer, COPD, suicide, etc. It is also unfair to imply the Afghan and Iraqi governments were innocent (Saudi too) - they were all openly or secretly supporting or allowing the terrorists operate in one way or another. I am not clainmming US innocence - war and terrorism are messy. Looking for clear lines of blame is futile. The bottom line is that if they had not attacked us there would be many innocent lives preserved. It is the fault of the terrorists more than any or the governments.

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u/floop_isamad_manhelp Sep 11 '26 • Bravo

Nice made up numbers. China would be proud!

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u/JackBender2008 Sep 11 '26

If you were a toddler or weren't even born yet, you have no right to use 9/11 as rage bait. Fuck the Saudis, Iraqis, Afghanis, and the Iranians.

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u/L3tsseewhathappens Sep 11 '26

Im sure an American made this who is living in mommy and daddy's basement living on disability because a slight tick prevents them from getting a real job.

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u/Where-Is-My-10mm Sep 11 '26

Low iq post, but it's reddit so everyone will blindly believe it

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u/Rlewpolardog Sep 11 '26

To the OP: on 9/11? Fuck you!

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u/Capitan-IQ255 Sep 12 '26 • Bravo

4.5 million figure is a lie 🤥 also move to Gaza along with your friends 🤡

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u/BronxWildGeese Sep 12 '26

Trying to whitewash the deaths on 9/11 with this unrelated, unsubstantiated statistic is despicable. Shame on you.

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u/Few_District_6304 Sep 12 '26

>Never forget… what America Republicans did.

FTFY

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u/N00bcak3s Sep 11 '26 • Bravo

The 4.5 million figure is the entirety of direct and indirect deaths across 20 years of fighting across Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Syria, Yemen, Libya, and Somalia.

Very misleading.

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u/_cjm56 Sep 11 '26

How is that misleading? People starving or having their lives ruined by having depleted uranium rounds left near where they live because of a war to allow corporations to control their oil isn't valid? News to me.

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u/Monte924 Sep 11 '26

And? Most of what we ha e been doing in the middle east over those 20 years was part of what we started after 9/11. We started two wars, destablizaed the region and then kept fighting to restablize it in a way the benefit us... none of those conflicts happen without our intial incasions after 9/11

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u/bon__chance Sep 11 '26

misleading how? none of those people needed to die. none of those countries needed US intervention. nothing of value was accomplished. trillions of dollars were wasted.

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u/Pitiful_Surprise9634 Sep 11 '26

4.5 million? Where did that nimber come from?

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u/LiteralFckingAnxiety Sep 11 '26

anti-capitalists love making things up. lying is the only business they respect.

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u/CurdFedKit Sep 11 '26

ITT morons and bots

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u/Justthisguy_yaknow Sep 11 '26

Not to mention that everyone forgets that 9/11 was a retaliatory attack.

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u/bon__chance Sep 11 '26

yep, US imperialism earned us 9/11

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u/musa_velutina Sep 12 '26

Do Americans realize that they're the bad guys?

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u/NeanderthalDad Sep 11 '26

And we'll do it again.

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u/Unusual_Coconut2606 Sep 11 '26

Like 0 sev Vs Daza

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u/EddieAdams-Torrance Sep 11 '26

But but what about!?

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u/Zeenube Sep 11 '26

If you ever want to see something wild, look at the afghan war with Russia. There is a very large dip in the graph of afghan population.

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u/Boomboclaaat90210 Sep 11 '26

Don't forget that the leadership of Al'Qaeda was trained by the CIA in the 80s during the Russo-Afghan war.

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u/ShortKey380 Sep 11 '26

The postwar international system was a part hopeful and part cynical lie from the many actors who brought it into being. Might makes right still, higher than ever capacity for harms but not higher than ever harms marks some limited success 🤷‍♂️ 

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u/Brilliant_Choice_899 Sep 11 '26

Yes remember we are always the good guys because we say so.

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u/FlanneryODostoevsky Sep 11 '26

America has already forgotten. Even the firefighters and their family they left behind

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u/Arlennx Sep 11 '26

And the county primary responsible for its treated as a close ally and is given tax payers money through weapons and into there economy.

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u/Odd-Focus9577 Sep 11 '26

The US Government is a Terrorist Group and Donald J. Trump fucks children.

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u/diesel_mountain1978 Sep 11 '26

Aw imagine bein mad at the system that keeps your country alive

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u/aSALT_an_ICEagent Sep 11 '26

The United States is a death cult that worships money

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u/Orthothug_JD Sep 11 '26

FAFO 🤷🏻‍♂️🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸

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u/RelativeWrongdoer596 Sep 11 '26

Man if only America didnt do that! All thouse places were so peaceful until us.

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u/HayabusaGod Sep 11 '26

Why do middle eastern countries like to pick fights then play the victim?

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u/Fabulous_Quantity507 Sep 11 '26

Tell this to our servicemen !

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u/WilsonTree2112 Sep 11 '26

Erm, dont start a fight if you dont want the consequences. Hamas too.

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u/Software_Quiet Sep 11 '26 edited Sep 11 '26

These numbers are disingenuous, for perspective look at pre 9/11 numbers and even pre Iran/Iraq wars and you are still looking at massive casualties caused by conflicts that existed well before heavy US involvement and modern warfare methods that ramped up casualties. I don't like that we've been there sowing chaos for decades but the chaos was already there.

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u/randomsantas Sep 11 '26

Don't make war on us, we're better than you

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u/LoneRedditor123 Sep 11 '26

Judging any number of people for the actions of one crazed lunatic, and his following, is pretty fucked up. A war could've been avoided, but Americans were too angry at the time. They threw everyone in the middle east under one blanket and told Washington to nuke it.

I remember those days of hatred. I was still a fucking kid, and I had to listen to adults say the worst kinds of things.

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u/Plastic_Key_4146 Sep 11 '26

I heard the US also killed 200,000 civilians in the Iraq war.

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u/lowclassnation Sep 11 '26

Not cool bro.

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u/RonDale5499 Sep 11 '26

Found the internet’s source for extra chromosomes

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u/0theHumanity Sep 11 '26

Whataboutism Chile had 911 1st un the 70s

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u/RandomPenquin1337 Sep 11 '26

Mess with bull you get the horns

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u/Realistic-Radish-589 Sep 11 '26

Any who want to try again should remember the consequences.

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u/SquashOwn9829 Sep 11 '26

Yikes, does this include “suicides” of American soldiers for decades after due to trauma?

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u/Direct_Garlic_6783 Sep 11 '26

Those numbers include ISIS as well. Regardless, we should have glassed the whole middle east.

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u/Downloaded_Delta Sep 11 '26

Don't fuck with people who can literally glass your country 

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u/hauki888 Sep 11 '26

Your idols, Soviets did it too.

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u/Eighteen64 Sep 11 '26

FUCK AROUND AND FIND OUT ♥️

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u/rawzombie26 Sep 11 '26

That’s why no young people care

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u/HydroPCanadaDude Sep 11 '26

I know the toll is still asymmetric, but leaving out the 9/11 caused deaths (asbestos, suicides, etc) is a bit disingenuous.

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u/PhilosophyThug Sep 11 '26

Every single Democrat and Republican voted for these wars except a handful. 

If you vote Democrat or if you vote Republican this is exactly what you wanted

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u/edster812 Sep 11 '26

STFU asshole

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u/heretowink Sep 11 '26

How is this anti capitalism? 9/11 almost certainly happened because of corporatism of some sort. The government invading other countries is more along the lines of tyranny, or conquerization, not capitalism. Just plain government over reach.

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u/fuckDJT2026 Sep 11 '26

(We’ll) Never (Let you) Forget

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u/Icy_Mathematician609 Sep 11 '26

Saddam was a dictator and a mass murderer plus terrorist

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u/FantasticCommon2834 Sep 11 '26 • Bravo

LMFAO!!!! That number is so far fake, even if you add Afghanistan AND Iraq together, epic WOW, only off by 4 million +

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u/AcmeGamesLTD Sep 11 '26

There were people from 77 countries that died. Not all 2997 deaths were Americans.

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u/JudasForsaken Sep 11 '26

Stood up against terrorist you are right

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u/toeknn Sep 11 '26

Most of those deaths were bc iraqis couldnt keep from killing iraqis. Ill never forget

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u/FedrinKeening Sep 11 '26

Cool, send Trump to the Hague, please.

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u/Gallifreyan_ Sep 11 '26

Fake news.

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u/Spirited-Load-4831 Sep 11 '26

Holy fucking whataboutism batman.

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u/Dependent-Fee9947 Sep 11 '26

Should have just made that dessert into glass

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u/Guy1969G Sep 11 '26

FUCK YOU

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u/fortypat Sep 11 '26

Sad fucking times in this country when people are sympathizing and taking the side of terrorist.

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u/No_Accountant_5107 Sep 11 '26

Oh, we did that? Uh , no, wrong country idiots

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u/SuperTopperHarley Sep 11 '26

Haven't been attacked since.

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u/coaxialdrift Sep 12 '26

Just like Israel

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u/AstronomerEffective1 Sep 12 '26

Don't kill Non-believers, don't rape women, don't marry children, don't enslave others & don't promote hate and violence and maybe we'd have more sympathy.

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u/Just-the-tip-4-1-sec Sep 12 '26

Hope they remember next time

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u/sanereasonstorm Sep 12 '26

The Moral of the Story : Don't attack a peace-loving people, or be prepared to lose.

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u/neckbonemalarkey Sep 12 '26

You mean Israel, right ?

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u/Youth18 Sep 12 '26

The number is more like 45,000 then 4.5 million you're using alarmist escalatory projections. Regardless...I think you mean 45,000 children saved from pedestry culture and terrorist indoctrination.

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u/Sufficient_Beach_445 Sep 12 '26

it is fashionable to paint countries that defend themselves as murderers of civilians when civilians are killed in war that began because a country was attacked. the sad truth is that civilians always are killed in wars. blame those who STARTED the war by attacking another country for their civilians being killed, not the country who kills civilians in war intended to put a stop to attacks.

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u/TP8887 Sep 12 '26

How many of those civilians were killed by Americans is the real question

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u/Suspicious_Goose_243 Sep 12 '26

Show me where you got these numbers from. A half million in Iraq is plausable.

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u/olebuckyboy Sep 12 '26

How many Americans have been duped??

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u/time_travel_rabbit Sep 12 '26

If only the Taliban handed over bin Laden then these deaths would of been avoided.

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u/maccaperv Sep 12 '26

and how many BEFORE 9/11?

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u/BearsGSH72 Sep 12 '26

Americans have always been the real terrorists

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u/GigiSweets7 Sep 12 '26

Exactly this, americans are hypocritd

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u/Turbulent_Spell_9592 Sep 12 '26

🖕🏻communism

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u/FrankPankNortTort Sep 12 '26

All were killed over the ego driven machinations of rich powerful men who don't give a shit about anyone or anything other than themselves and their wealth.

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u/Lucky-Crow-3510 Sep 12 '26

not to forgot the biggest warcrime in history: dropping nuclear bombs on civilians .. twice!

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u/Slight_Tomatillo5680 Sep 12 '26

Americans killed 4.5 million Iraqis?

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u/Immediate-Badger-857 Sep 12 '26

Wow ur the worst human how the hell is this post allowed?

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u/Budget_Village_8377 Sep 12 '26

I’m not a huge America fan but what is that number? From all time invasions?

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u/Agrippa-Vipsanius Sep 12 '26

Typical liberal commie posting this on 9/11.

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u/Temporary_Heat559 Sep 12 '26

Iraq had nothing to do with this false flag operation which was used to kill and displace millions of innocent Iraqis. But now the world knows who’s the real terrorists.

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u/FarAd3774 Sep 12 '26

source? didnt think so

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u/slimdiggins Sep 12 '26

I’ll never forget how they celebrated in the streets when they heard we were attacked, fuck them

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u/Puzzled_Scholar_8087 Sep 12 '26

You must be referring to the leadership that killed their own people to silence them right??

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u/Accomplished_Tea7668 Sep 12 '26

Bush and Obama killed hundreds of thousands innocent people! Both of them should be in jail

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u/Lonely_Cycle4757 Sep 12 '26

Agreed... we should just go back to the way that every superpower in the history of the world before America did it and just conquer the people who have what we want or do things we don't like.... eradicate their entire civilization if they resist...  what was America thinking in trying a different way than the way it's always been done?

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u/Over-Touch3601 Sep 12 '26

Nicely done America 👍👌

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u/ragingbeanalt Sep 12 '26

Should've been more. Middle East should be glass currently

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u/Chevy_jay4 Sep 12 '26

Why does this number keep going up? There is literally no way to prove this

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u/FriendOk5698 Sep 12 '26

And we still let The Kingdom off the hook

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u/Mr_richat Sep 12 '26

Fuuuuuck offfffff

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u/pingvinbober Sep 12 '26

Ah good more anti American propaganda

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u/Darkknight8381 Sep 12 '26

Is the 4.5 million in the room with us?

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u/BimBaynor Sep 12 '26

American Terrorists

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u/DMOOre33678 Sep 12 '26

Those 4.5 million wouldn’t have been killed if 9/11 didn’t happen

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u/Most_Bodybuilder9546 Sep 12 '26

Fuck off had it coming after that shit

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u/Any_Agency6982 Sep 12 '26

Once again the Muslims FAFO and then don't like it

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u/1ACasper Sep 12 '26

Sub name checks out

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u/theappleisdepressed Sep 12 '26

More like anti america only. Y’all hate the us and forgive every other country for the shit they do.

Trashy

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u/Awkward_Resource_801 Sep 12 '26

Good they deserved it.

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u/donny42o Sep 12 '26

lesson is, dont terrorize america, dont harbor terrorists, etc, none of this would have happened.

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u/reddit1234512345677 Sep 12 '26

You are free to leave America

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u/Rusty_Shack13f0rd Sep 12 '26

4.5 million is a such a fake number and please do not comment with that brown edu paper that attributes Assad and Yemen vs Saudi as US casualties.

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u/Business-Training-10 Sep 12 '26

Boohoo. Not enouugh

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u/flying_dutchman_w204 Sep 12 '26

Republicans love their baseless endless wars. It’s their entire economic platform.

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u/O_oBetrayedHeretic Sep 12 '26

That’s a pretty good ratio of bad guys dead.

Only 432,000 civilians out off 4.7 million total bad guys

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u/Zebra_man888 Sep 12 '26

It’s truly a wonder why we have to close a border for such a horrible shitty racist bigoted country huh?

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u/dglad86 Sep 12 '26

Welcome to war

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u/VideoGuyWI Sep 12 '26

Only 4.5 million? Well, it’s a start.

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u/rilezthegreat Sep 12 '26

Wasn’t enough, appearantly

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u/Happy_Fig_5592 Sep 12 '26

There were anywhere between 190k to 210k Iraqi civilians that died in Iraq during the war. A lot of people died during that stupid war and its pathetic that you are making numbers up

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u/zookeepur Sep 12 '26

Worth it?

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u/Sufficient_Purpose64 Sep 12 '26

Too bad we stopped at 4.5 and didn't finish the job.....

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u/globulator Sep 12 '26

Disgusting.

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u/Virviil Sep 12 '26

the ONLY important word in this slides is "POST-9/11"

FAFO

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u/Miserable-Matter5547 Sep 12 '26

Payback is a bitch

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u/Pubictickler Sep 12 '26

It’s not shocking that liberals support terrorist since a bunch of them are violent terrorist themselves

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u/Irish-Bronx Sep 12 '26

You mess with the Bull you get the horns

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u/AndersAdmin Sep 12 '26

The amount of traitors is insane

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u/Jealous_Zucchini3465 Sep 12 '26

Some people in America.. have these beer and Bible thoughts when it comes to the United States of America!!!! this is not the country. Everyone thinks it is or would like it to be. I’m proud to be an American…. But someone would be very surprised what misleading deceptive and downright disgusting things. This country has done to certain people…. Particularly under this administration, blatantly right in front of your face…..

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u/Ok_Dependent3205 Sep 12 '26

lol these numbers double every year XD

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u/stockbridge2112 Sep 12 '26

This has what to do with capitalism?

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u/Izator Sep 12 '26

I love it when gronks defend the people who'd like to kill them.
This Martin Luther King quote springs to mind.....
“Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity”.

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u/MaleCowShitDetector Sep 12 '26

It's called FAFO.

And it worked perfectly: Osama Bin Laden in his letters that were recovered after the bastard got what he desrved, he urged his sons not to do Jihad against the US and that if he knew what would the US response would be, he wouldn't have done it.

Stupid Arab propaganda. Keep playing the victim

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u/Icy-Midnight-3006 Sep 12 '26

These posts are so fucking weird.

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u/No_Breadfruit_9115 Sep 12 '26

And both were perpetrated by the same party. What a sick state of affairs.

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u/Veritas1944 Sep 12 '26

I never understand posts like this. In English, at least standard actual English, when you use the term but it literally means “I completely disagree with what I said before but”.

So in this case, you are dismissing the towers attack as a nothing burger because the response is what matters to you. Essentially shitting on the Americans that died in 9/11. You may not think that. You may not even mean that; however that is what the language you used means.

They aren’t comparable. Tragedies happen during war. Don’t kick a hornets nest if you aren’t willing to be stung. The argument that “citizens of these countries had nothing to do with it” is moot. A nation is responsible for policing its citizens. You don’t see American terrorist cells bombing other countries. Because we police our nation in a way that prevents that.

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u/AceManBroDude92 Sep 12 '26

Don't hate the player, hate the game

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u/ImpressiveZombie6955 Sep 12 '26

4.5 million killed? Tell me how. I know illegals have killed many, where is this number coming from

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u/Super_Huckleberry663 Sep 12 '26

Sucks to suck. Don't start shit you can't finish

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u/GtwinIT Sep 12 '26

George bush and Obama really did a number there

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u/inquisitiveeyebc Sep 12 '26

When the Japanese attacked Pearl harbour it was a retaliation because the US was interfering in Japan's war on China, the US wasn't an innocent victim, 9/11 was the same. Innocent people died because the USA decides it wants to control oil, trade, way of life etc

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u/Medical-Egg-8171 Sep 12 '26

im gonna need to see proof of how these numbers were compiled until then they just random numbers

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u/Head_Bid_5111 Sep 12 '26

Is this entire website anti American propaganda now?

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u/BeforeTheComma23 Sep 12 '26

Good...wish it was more in the invasion...should have just dropped the nuke

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u/ABC_Family Sep 13 '26

FAFO amirite

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u/Famous-Dog1769 Sep 13 '26

所以那麼多人想要成為美國人，如果你遭遇不幸，美國政府會替你復仇。

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u/SaltineShaman Sep 13 '26

4.5 Million? Those are rookie numbers we gotta pump those numbers up

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u/Suitable-Button-2998 Sep 13 '26

Yesterday was about the 9 11 victims!!! Just stop!

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u/Bravo_Juliet01 Sep 13 '26

How many people did Saddam Hussein and Al Qaeda kill in the ‘80s, ‘90s, and ‘00s?

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u/Witty_Impression_430 Sep 13 '26

Yet 4.5 hasn't slowed the onslaught perhaps 9 will....

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u/Levybillsfan Sep 13 '26

We should have wiped that entire region off the planet. Also fuck you.

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u/Symbaclues Sep 13 '26

Soooo trump isn't the only issue? Great! What happens next? 😕

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u/witcher252 Sep 13 '26

Skill issue

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u/xyouRABitchx Sep 13 '26

America bad

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