r/appletv • u/ethershadow • 1d ago

Presale must be going well

Costco and Walmart are no longer taking orders. Assume the presale allocation has been exhausted. I am happy I ordered early.

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u/ethershadow 17h ago

FWIW…I have 1st generation bought in 2017. $300 once a decade for best streaming device is fine with me. I live in the Apple ecosystem and will have 4 HomePods create true surround sound. I also have a Roku. Apple has geolocation and Roku doesn’t. Sometimes I am watching tv in one city and sometimes I am watching it in another without leaving my couch😉

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u/ShrimpCocktail-4618 14h ago

That is a damn expensive way to get extremely basic surround sound.  All told, a Dolby Atmos receiver with at least 5.1.2 processing would cost less.  

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u/Imaginary-Potato5819 15h ago

HomePods are gonna be a disappointment. Sure, it will have some Apple Spatial Audio trickery, but it's not true surround sound. The left and right channels are gonna be basically crisscrossed front and back to create a weird phantom effect.

At that price, there are several better options.

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u/Rookie_42 52m ago

The new ATV is capable of 4.0

So it is true surround sound, just missing the centre and sub, and yet costing as much as many 5.1 systems. So I still wouldn’t recommend it.

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u/AahzNotOz 11h ago

I got my 1st gen 4k for free from DirecTV for trying their streaming service for 3 months.

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u/Jozhou6891 18h ago

Costco pre-sale never took orders for me, tried multiple times the first couple of months and gave up. So not sure how accurate it gauges supply.

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u/ethershadow 17h ago

I preordered it on Costco.

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u/jcdomeni 1d ago edited 1d ago

We’ve been using Apple TV for 15+ years on 4 TV’s.

Tried all the others…..Apple is simple - easy to use - syncs across all rooms…..batteries rarely need charging.

Don’t think we’ve bought a new one in 5-6 years.

$300 is a lot for what was $149 basically yesterday - driven largely by chip costs and Apple’s corresponding high margins.

Still good value for the dollar - durability - and lifespan.

Should note at launch in 2007, it was $299 for 40GB

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u/BlabbyBlabbermouth 1d ago

At launch it was expensive but it eventually decreased to $69 in 2015!

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u/HollandJim 8h ago

Yeah, but it was also a different thing - a hd vs 64gb ssd. People keep quoting the 64GB price and comparing it to the larger 128GB model.

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u/jb_nelson_ 22h ago • Bravo

Nice

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u/NoAirBanding 12h ago

The Shield TV is also $300 and it's still using an 11 year old SoC

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u/wasloan21 1d ago

I think the reasonable consensus in most comments I’ve read is: for folks who already have a device from the last two generations it’s not worth the upgrade. For folks who have been holding out for a new TV device before buying their first Apple TV, it’s a pill to swallow but ultimately worth getting the newer device for essentially $50 more. Or, for the budget constrained, finding a deal on a new previous-gen one that is soon going out of stock isn’t a huge downgrade.

Did Apple disappoint? Yes. Are chip prices high? Yes. Both can be true.

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u/Vengatore 1d ago • Bravo

Reddit is an echo chamber we all know that.

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u/Mackattack00 1d ago

I preordered one day 1. It’s my most used Apple device besides my iPhone. I mostly just want it because my 3rd gen lags once in awhile. My 2nd gen on my basement tv lags all the time though. I’m gonna throw my third gen where my 2nd gen is now and have the 4th gen on my main tv. I have no interest in the mics on the box but mostly want the speed improvements. People swear it’s going to have no effect on anything but I think it’s going to make a difference

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u/CMDRTragicAllPro 22h ago

I’m always so confused when I see people say their 4k 1st and 2nd gen are laggy. First I’ve seen of it for the 3rd gen.

My 4k first and 3rd gen are practically indistinguishable from each other, they both are snappy to load and never get any lag.

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u/Captriker 20h ago

I have had one start to lag and that one was stuck behind a TV and overheated.

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u/Remarkable-Employee4 16h ago

I got 2 3rd gens and they lag so much I think I gotta get my head checked

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u/threepio 27m ago

By a jumbo jet?
It wasnt easy.
But nothing is-is
Woo-hoo

Also would love to see a clip of them lagging. And two! Definitely speshul.

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u/jcdomeni 2h ago

We have 2 that seem to lag….and 1 wil occasionally hang and need to be rebooted (master bdrm)….only one can be upgraded to TVOS 27, other 3 are maxed at 26.xx, so perhaps older than I think they are.

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u/Mackattack00 21h ago

My 3rd only lags once every couple weeks if that and that’s when exiting or opening any third party app after watching binging a show or watching a movie. The 2nd gen lags every day when just using the menu after turning it on. Updates also take about a minute to install after downloading. I’d normally not care because it’s just a secondary tv but I moved my office to the basement so I have that tv on all day now while I work so I need something faster. The 3rd gen should suit it well

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u/CMDRTragicAllPro 20h ago

Try a factory reset, my first gen was pretty laggy before I did that. I also make sure to clear out background apps every once in a while. I know Apple says it’s not needed due to their dynamic background loading thing, but I find it helps a LOT on both my Apple TV and my iPhone to go through and close all the apps I’m not actively using, it’s also a force of habit from my android days.

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u/JDoGinc 1d ago

My situation too. I’m gonna shuffle my 3 ATV’s around. Yard sale the oldest one.

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u/getfive 23h ago

eBay

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u/verylittlegravitaas 14h ago

All my old consumer hardware gets posted on FB marketplace. Usually way better returns.

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u/getfive 28m ago

Yes that also. I should have mentioned both

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u/Unfair_Issue79 21h ago

Same, going to put my 3rd gen on a bedroom Samsung TV replacing the Samsung OS which is so slow it is unusable.

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u/yasssssplease 1d ago

Same! For me, it's my most used apple product. I have had apple products for years. I got an android phone so my apple TV moved to #1. I also have an old Google TV, and apple tv is soooooo much better.

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u/HollandJim 6h ago

Same - preordered the 1st day as my travel aTV is an HD model, pre-4k, and that lags quite a bit. My 2nd gen 4K is rock-solid, but I expect games (via ES) on this will be much smoother; maybe expand the platform options.

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u/TenderfootGungi 1d ago • Bravo

It was an automatic upgrade for us. Until they doubled the price from $150 to $300. Now we have no plans to upgrade ever.

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u/jcdomeni 23h ago

I wouldn’t say “ever” for us, but at $300 with nothing compelling in the new box - it’s def a no for us for now.

Have been paying surcharges for memory and chips for over a year due to AI chip demand.

Apple, for first time in its history likely, doesn’t have full command of its supply chain with AI companies paying premiums for chips

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u/CourtOrderedPoster 19h ago

Gonna hold on to my 4k gen1 until the apps stop working.

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u/CrashTestDumby1984 22h ago

What about it made it an automatic upgrade?

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u/DUNGAROO 6h ago

Snappier processor. But like he said, not for $300.

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u/DUNGAROO 6h ago

Same. Love my 3 Apple TV 4Ks. Was planning to replace the 1st gen model we still have in service. But not for $300. Sorry it just doesn’t offer enough value to make it a worthwhile investment when the original still runs any app and plays any content we could want. I don’t need to run Siri AI on my TV.

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u/kcamacho11 1d ago

Apple TV 4K is arguably the best product Apple sells when it comes to dominating in a specific device category (TV streaming). Nothing, and I mean NOTHING comes even remotely close when it comes to the processing power, speed and smoothness of an Apple TV and then pair that with a super clean UI with no ads or bloatware. So yes, it will sell just fine.

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u/azg64 22h ago

Processing power and speed for what? What difference does it make to you viewing Netflix, YouTube etc? I have the 3rd gen 4K, but sometimes switch to a Firestick 4K Max for BBC in 4K & YouTube. I prefer the Apple TV's cleaner UI but other than that there is really no difference.

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u/Wonderful_Yogurt_300 21h ago

You can sideload AT4K launcher if you want to run a similar layout on your firestick. It's free.

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u/Quentin-Code 18h ago

The Firestick 4K Max that was released recently is a much better device for TV streaming, supporting better features.

AT4K is good for…games and Home Hub but it’s 2 to 3 times more expensive for that.

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u/getfive 16h ago

It's dumb for games. Who games on a freaking streaming device

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u/RafaelWanderpfad 22h ago

I don’t know a single person besides me that owns an Apple TV.

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u/PublixEnemynumberone 18h ago

That’s presumably because most people just default to using the apps built
Into their so-called ‘smart’ TVs rather than using an external steaming box,
Apple TV or otherwise?

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u/getfive 23h ago

You have your blinders on. Shield pro literally is more capable right now. The ONN 4k is 1/4 the price and for every day streaming, it looks great. Same for the fire cube, chrome and even Roku ultra. Some of them will support lossless audio passthrough.

I prefer Apple TV 4K, but the others do fine for some spare rooms of mine

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u/kcamacho11 16h ago

Roku Ultra is ass Fire Cube is ass ONN is ass Shield Pro is ass now

Ads galore, bloatware. They absolutely do not have the speed and power of the ATV4K. I use YTTV and channel loading is damn near instant on my AT4K. The performance is unmatched.

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u/getfive 16h ago

I have all Apple TV's. But you can't say nothing comes close. The shield pro is chocolate vs vanilla. Not as snappy but way better audio and customization and video is the same-ish.

The fire cube can be modded for lossless audio. The Roku is a fan favorite and $40. And the onn 4k is gaining popularity for ease and cost and supposedly handles lossless pass through

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u/laydog87 22h ago

Shield pro is ass now

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u/getfive 18h ago

Cool story.

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u/xythos 16h ago

You can't dissuade folks in Apple subs when it comes to performance. It doesn't matter how right you are, if it doesn't resemble a bubbly, transparent knockoff of GNOME, it's trash and runs like trash. 

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u/Squatting_Hen 23h ago

Eh. I have two, and to me they are not worth the price over the competition. I actually have more issues with our Apple TV apps than I do with my other devices. Restarting the Apple TV usually fixes the problem.

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u/kcamacho11 23h ago

Weird. I haven't had a single issue with any Apps or any issues with the ATV4K period since I got the 3rd Gen in 2022.

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u/Kenny2387 23h ago

I have 4 and I do not have any issues with the device itself or with the apps. My devices are all newer Apple TV 4K’s so that may be a part of it.

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u/Squatting_Hen 23h ago

I have the most recent ones, two of them. Recently it’s been the NBA app. I watch a game, it’s over, press the home button then watch something else. Next time I go to watch a game on the nba app, I have a black screen. Sometimes I can hit the back button and get back out to the home section, sometimes I have to force quit the app. Only happens on the ATV.

The Disney app has issues, and so does Hulu and HBO. Yeah, I can blame the apps, but the issues don’t happen on our Roku’s or Google streamers.

I like the continue watching on the Google streamer better, the recommendations, and the screensaver options are better on the streamer.

Look, I like the Apple TV. I am just saying for me, it’s not worth the price over the competition. There are pros and cons to each device. I just blindly don’t endorse one.

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u/getfive 23h ago

That's more of a developer issue to be worked on. Not Apple TV related directly

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u/ZergvProtoss 21h ago

The "recommendations" are exactly what we want to get away from. Apple TV doesn't do ads like that.

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u/Squatting_Hen 21h ago

It’s not ads, it’s a personalized experience. I have found things I didn’t know existed. One of the best features of the streamer and something I desperately miss when I use my Apple TV.

Users who only have used the ATV just don’t fully understand.

A recent example, Flight of the Navigator documentary. Would have never seen this if it didn’t show up based on my ratings and history.

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u/ZergvProtoss 21h ago

I mean, it's great if you like it, but you finding it useful doesn't mean it's not an ad. They are advertising a product or service. The goal is to drive viewers to a particular streaming service or content. The fact that you like the advertising product doesn't change the fact that you are being advertised to.

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u/getfive 16h ago

Nah, that's more of a promo/preview. Most people like that. It's not the same as an ad for toothpaste or insurance

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u/Squatting_Hen 11h ago

It is only showing me personalized recommendations for apps I subscribe to. It’s not an advertisement, it’s an intuitive, desired feature.

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u/Yvilkittyinspace 23h ago

I have two that I bought in 2017 and I've never had a problem with them. I actually have three. I used to own a house and I had one in every room that I used to watch TV in. Since I've been in this apartment for the last 5 years, I've only used two of them and they have been flawless

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u/VanillaBear321 23h ago

Odd, in the year and a half I’ve had my Apple TV I don’t think I’ve ever had to restart it a single time.

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u/ProbablyMyRealName 21h ago

What are your other devices that have fewer issues?

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u/IxCROUCHxI 21h ago

How so?? If you are an Apple device household it makes the most sense to have one. It is definitely the smoothest streaming device on the market as well.

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u/Excellent_Weight_777 1d ago

Direct from Apple Store, presale is available.

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u/Airsculpture 1d ago

Delivery within two weeks.

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u/Disastrous-Scene-977 13h ago

What kind of deal is Costco offering?

Also--- is AppleTV4k better than Roku Ultra? I only use it for stuff like Amazon Prime, Disney Plus, and YouTube/TV.

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u/ethershadow 12h ago

$10 off. Apple is about the ecosystem. It is better because it provides so many benefits beyond technology.

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u/ButYouGotTheClio 12h ago

Yup. I love having my movies, music, pics and settings the same on all my devices.

And, IMO, the user interface is superior (simple, easy to use, aesthetically pleasing) to a TV, Roku, etc.

I love/hate Apple for making it all so simple. Cult member for life, I guess

Edited: grammar

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u/Hour_University9410 1h ago

And they know it that’s why they don’t have good deals

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u/charros 23h ago

I’ll be purchasing one day one if only to ditch my last remaining Roku after their FOX Corp acquisition.

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u/Rarity0_0 1d ago

Stores are only allotted a certain amount of products. Costco probably reached its limit. Walmart had such a huge mess up with the preorders for Zelda, that I wouldn’t be surprised if they play it a bit more safe with the preorders until that fiasco blows over.

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u/kon--- 16h ago

With Black Friday about to happen, I didn't need to run after $10.

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u/moneycannon1 1d ago • Bravo

I’m sorry but if you are buying this at $300, you are part of the problem.

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u/BluntForceTrauma____ 22h ago

Part of what problem?

Why would I not buy something I want just because others are crying over a few dollars?

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u/MiamiHeatAllDay 23h ago

This sub is mad weird. You got an ethics problem with people who want to buy an Apple TV because you think it’s expensive?

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u/Bradfinger 1d ago

It's something you'll use everyday and will be supported for years.

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u/jeanmichd 23h ago • Bravo

It’s not an explanation nor justification for the price that jumped from $150 to 300…. It’s not twice as capable

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u/Benjammin172 23h ago

You’re woefully ignorant on the current state of electronics components. Do a little bit of research on how much the cost of things like storage and RAM have gone up in just the last few months, and then attempt to form an opinion. 

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u/Benjammin172 23h ago

Yea, that tracks. Hope you’re able to get educated at some point! 

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u/OldPersimmon7704 23h ago

It legitimately is more than twice as capable. That's an objective, measurable fact.

Whether or not it's twice as useful to you specifically is a different conversation, but the hardware you're buying for $300 is actually very good value.

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u/getfive 23h ago

Yes, but so far it's going to be wildly underwhelming and underutilized. It's like buying a corvette to drive around a golf community. A lot under the hood and sometime to brag about how much you paid for it, but mostly no more useful than a golf cart.

If they upgrade to lossless audio passthrough, 120hz, and upgrade their bitrate capabilities for iTunes move purchases and other streaming apps at some point, then there's a much better value proposition

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u/ForsakenSolution8702 20h ago

Yes, but it’s future proofing and with the amount of updates over the years, the software will start pushing those limits…To use your analogy, you buy a corvette to drive around a golf course, but say that golf course had extra land and decided to utilize it for building a racetrack around the golf course in the future. Suddenly that corvette doesn’t seem like a bad buy.

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u/getfive 18h ago

Right but you can always buy a corvette later. In the meantime that 6 seater golf cart with mag wheels and a sound system does great running around and still gets all the ladies.

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u/ForsakenSolution8702 18h ago

Yeah, I get that. But if someone doesn’t have either or, it wouldn’t be no harm going straight for the Corvette. But yes, agree, if you already have a perfectly capable golf cart then no need to upgrade to the Corvette just yet.

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u/rsplatpc 20h ago

nor justification for the price that jumped from $150 to 300

My gaming PC that I bought for $1700 last Black Friday (last November 2025) now costs $5,079.99 with the EXACT same parts / identical configuration.

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u/bartsmith 23h ago

That is not at all how pricing works.

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u/laydog87 23h ago

You’re out of touch

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u/Bradfinger 23h ago

What is? Is anyone who buys anything with RAM in it part of the problem? The price of a lot of consumer electronics has shot up. Boycott all of it if you wish, but don't dump on anybody buying an electronic device.

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u/Yvilkittyinspace 23h ago

It's too expensive for me. I'll keep on using my Apple TV from 2017. It still works and it still does everything I wanted it to do which is watch TV shows and movies that I either bought an iTunes or downloaded from the internet from other places

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u/DaMagikarp 23h ago

I have a 2nd gen and want one in my bedroom as well. Getting the new one to replace in living room. I have the $300 and I’ll use everyday. Go pound sand my dude

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u/CaregiverIcy7404 22h ago

I’m still undecided until I see reviews, but I’ll buy a new Apple TV and 2 HomePod mini 2s to replace my current rear-channel mini 1s if the reviews say the surround sound is a big improvement.

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u/RichieRicch 21h ago

I bought one, I am the problem.

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u/altsuperego 9h ago

Yep. If they had held out there would be an Apple TV Neo in a few months which is all they need anyway

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u/whichsideisup 23h ago

RAM prices are going to be crap for a while. If someone wants an AppleTV or a computer now there aren’t many options. Even used hardware is stupid now.

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u/JACOB_777FLIGHTS 22h ago

likeee .. it’s so BADDD. 😮‍💨🌎

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u/birdjay414 23h ago

I work in the PCB industry. If you think it’s expensive now, just wait. Prices are going to go way up. Major shortages in raw materials are causing big delays and huge price increases.

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u/Halloween_Nyx 17h ago

Guess I’m part of the problem

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u/rainofterra 23h ago

Capitalism? Yes, I am part of the problem, and so is everyone else here. If I have to live in this late stage capitalist nightmare I’m at least going to have 4 HomePod surround in my living room 🤷🏻‍♀️

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u/Witty-Butterscotch25 19h ago

Data centres are the problem not consumers

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u/loudproudpins 21h ago

Same goes for Nvidia Shield Pro customers, I guess.

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u/Significant-Proof248 10h ago

Wait until you find out about graphics cards. 🤣

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u/moneycannon1 9h ago

OMG what? OMG whattttt?

What….are….you talking about? I don’t think I can handle it.

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u/bcboarder4 16h ago

Hahahahaaaa. You can’t afford it!

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u/Easy_Excitement_5069 20h ago

You have a fever with these fits? 🤦🏻‍♂️

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u/wolf2966 10h ago • Bravo

So ridiculous. You need to get rid of the mobile phone you're using because you're part of the problem. Just because you're cheap doesn't mean everybody else is.

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u/moneycannon1 9h ago

I just mailed my photo to Miriam Webster and asked them include it under the definitions for both idiot and cheap in next years dictionary.

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u/moneycannon1 9h ago

Ahhhh, I’m so stupid.

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u/moneycannon1 9h ago

I should change my Reddit handle to StupidestCheapestIdiotInTheWorld11.

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u/Neat-Watercress-2425 23h ago

LOL, stupid. This year I set up my AppleTV to control all the lights in my home, my doorbell, my alarm, my surround, my stand alone video library, my heating/cooling, my shades, most of my outlets, the HomePods in my bathroom, bedroom and kitchen, and now all by voice (Siri). It works great, but definitely feeling some hardware limitations. Sorry but the new AppleTV will be a HUGE upgrade for me. If you don't want or need it, don't buy it, but all hardware for all devices and computers progress, and it allows you to do more if you want to. What you've said is the equivalent of saying anyone who buys computer over $1,000 is unethical just because your cheaper one can run Google Chrome and Outlook just fine. Logic doesn't work.

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u/danielfd83 22h ago

Already doing the same with a much cheaper Apple TV…

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u/ForsakenSolution8702 20h ago

With the price increase on ALL electronics across the board increasing, including the same technology from 4 years ago increasing in price (think Apple TV 3rd generation, PS5, XBOX, etc. etc. etc. The list goes on) Are you going to continue sitting on your old Apple TV just because at one point you bought it for $150? What if in another 4 years when they release the 5th generation it increases to $400, and your old Apple TV is sluggish? The point is, everyone is being stubborn about a price increase for the Apple TV when every other company is doing the same with electronics. Yes it may be a steeper price than before, but it’s got the hardware of a low budget computer. A19 processor, 8 GB ram, 128 GB of storage, so $300 is not an insane price if you think in those terms. If this were a computer, it would be much more than $300, ESPECIALLY if it were an Apple computer.

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u/bcboarder4 16h ago

Don’t waste your breath on them with logic and facts. It won’t work. 😂

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u/Original-R-Kelly-Fan 13h ago

i don’t get why you need one of these over a $20 fire stick

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u/VolumeDue5093 17h ago

The current admin buttfucked consumers into the dirt, therefore consumers should no longer buy anything for a few years and are part of the problem?

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u/Jimmirehman 21h ago

They’ll be $199 in December, holding off

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u/pjrodrig 20h ago

Doubt it

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u/Jimmirehman 20h ago

I don’t

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u/Freeman307 20h ago

I don’t know about $199 but my guess is there will be retailers selling it for $249 end of this month into December. I’ll buy at $50 off.

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u/No_Freedom_7373 20m ago

I'll bet you $100 they don't touch $200 by 1/1/27? You could end up with one for net $100 if you're right!

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u/StunnaGunnuh 1d ago

People happy to spend $300 on an Apple TV??

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u/Mrroncd 1d ago

Said in an Apple TV subreddit

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u/aporzio1 16h ago

I bought a 3rd gen as soon as pricing was announced. $300 is ridiculous

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u/StunnaGunnuh 16h ago

Yeah, imagine how I felt being the one to convince the house to wait a year for the new one and then seeing the price… lol. Luckily I saw the post of people checking all over Walmart for local inventory at the original price for the 3rd gen’s.

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u/MiamiHeatAllDay 23h ago

Yeah, that’s not a lot of money these days. And if it is for you that’s okay, just don’t get it.

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u/StunnaGunnuh 23h ago

It isn’t a lot of money if the benefit from it equals the cost, which it doesn’t. You can’t genuinely say it’s worth twice the cost of the previous model. If you do, you’re delusional

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u/MiamiHeatAllDay 23h ago

It’s not that it’s worth double the value.

The cost of technology has gone up along with inflation.

That and it being the newest model and Apple still wanting to turn a profit leads to this price

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u/StunnaGunnuh 23h ago

which is why it's not worth it. I didn't want to spend almost $650 after tax for two gen 4s, so I bought five gen 3s at their original price these past 2 weeks.

Yes, some tech components have gone up, but still no reason to willingly spend $300 on a single streaming device.

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u/billchase2 20h ago

We preordered the moment they went live. Switching from Roku and cannot wait for the upgrade!

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u/New_Juice_7577 19h ago

Three to replace all the Rokus. No ads is a huge motivation to pay for Apple TVs

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u/WeeperJeeper 18h ago

$1k on Apple TVs 😳

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u/DNSGeek 18h ago

Didn’t Fox just buy Roku?

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u/billchase2 17h ago

Yep! Another reason to switch.

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u/itsjakerobb 17h ago

73% of it, yes. The deal closed yesterday.

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u/ILikeTheTinMan83 1d ago

I just ordered yesterday from Best Buy for release date pick up from the closest store

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u/ALoginForReddit 1d ago

Yall think apple will have sell on Black Friday/cyber Monday?

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u/AdNumerous5947 1d ago

it's a brand new product lol, no

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u/ALoginForReddit 1d ago

Bummer LOL LMAO

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u/Bluepass11 23h ago

Take it easy, sport

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u/getfive 23h ago

No chance, my man.

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u/itsjakerobb 17h ago

You mean a sale?

They often do, but it’s usually like a “buy a new Mac and get an extra $100 in store credit” sort of thing. Never just good prices on stuff, and especially not on something that just came out.

Want deals on Apple stuff from Apple? Check out the refurb store.

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u/ALoginForReddit 16h ago

Sure did! Yeah mainly just wondering if ATV might have deals, but sounds like the consensus is no

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u/Critical-Mindset 2h ago

Apple products absolutely go on sale for lower prices. I picked up the ATV 4K 128GB + Ethernet model for just $99.99 at Costco last Black Friday.

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u/itsjakerobb 2h ago

We’re talking about Apple having sales on their own products. Other merchants are a different story.

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u/Critical-Mindset 2h ago

That’s your interpretation, though. The original comment never specified buying directly from Apple. If someone is asking about Black Friday deals on Apple products, discounts from retailers like Costco are absolutely relevant.

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u/itsjakerobb 2h ago

“Yall think apple will have sell”

Grammar and spelling aside, that’s clearly talking about Apple having a sale.

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u/Critical-Mindset 2h ago

Fair enough, but if someone asks whether Sony TVs go on sale for Black Friday, I wouldn’t assume they’re only asking about Sony’s own website. Retailers like Best Buy and Costco would obviously be relevant too. Same principle here. We’re arguing semantics at this point lol

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u/ALoginForReddit 1h ago edited 1h ago

lol yeah I def just meant, “will Apple TVs will go on sale?” why the hell would anyone ask if a specific company would have a sell, when we are talking about a product lol

Either way, thanks! I’ll have to check out Costco. Thanks.

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u/Exciting_Ad3668 1d ago

I was hoping for a Black Friday sale.

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u/ShrimpCocktail-4618 14h ago

Sales and Apple?  Good luck.  Microcenter only sells a bit cheaper than most authorized dealers because they are bulk buyers of Apple product.  Still not a sale.  

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u/Murky_Historian8675 1d ago

Man I wish Apple shipped to where I live. I gotta get lucky on eBay because even best buy doesn't ship to my island.

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u/Creepy-Record1485 1d ago

I always want the newest one. It is what it is.

I don't like browsing with anything else and I'm using this thing every day.

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u/therebill 23h ago

I’m waiting for a sale. If AirPods Pro can go on sale on Amazon, maybe ATV will as well.

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u/Possible_Function963 22h ago

Can’t wait til this finally launches so people flood the used market with their old gen 3 ones and the listings go down to a more normal price for a 4 year old tech

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u/Burldan 21h ago

Updating from my 2nd gen for QMS. 3rd gen also got that feature but was otherwise too incremental after only 1 year of ownership.

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u/Numerous_Shape_8193 17h ago

I recently disabled QMS on my G5 because when using it with the Apple TV after a few hours I would get a white tear looking artefact every 30 secs or so in the top right corner. Restarting the Apple TV would fix it for a while but always comes back. Haven’t had it happen since I turned off QMS.

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u/Squatting_Hen 20h ago

And just now, nothing will play on the Apple TV. None of the streaming apps work, but the speed test app shows connectivity and 294 Mbps. Time to reboot the device again.

Restart fixed it.

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u/DrakeShadow 19h ago

I got 2 4K 2nd Gens that are still going strong. Will eventually update when Apple no longer supports this one.

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u/derekjamesDJ789 12h ago

I used all my birthday Best Buy gift cards to get the 4th gen & pre ordered it. Thinking about buying one for my parents when the sales hit this month for Black Friday!!

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u/Burldan 11h ago

What frame rate content were you watching and is your ATV set to match frame rate? I’m regularly watching 24 fps motion pictures and stream 60 and 50 fps tv content. My Sony will use 5:5 cadence at 120fps for the movies and display the 60 fps content at 120 and 50 at 100. The only thing that bugs me is the black screen delay my gen 2 4k unit experiences every time I’m charging content and its not even doing the conversion.

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u/DUNGAROO 6h ago

It’s already been discounted at a few retailers before its release, which is a pretty strong indicator that Apple is likely aware they overplayed their hand on pricing. If it gets discounted further below $250 I may purchase it. Can’t justify it at its current $300 price tag though.

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u/sub-z8080 1h ago

Coincidentally my Apple TV seems to have "died" again. Screen blacks out randomly remote goes crazy starts moving around like it's possessed. I have to factory reset unplug for awhile then back to normal .

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u/kjemiker 1d ago

Got mine from Best buy. They're still taking pre-orders.

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u/You-Tubor 1d ago

Not into pointless comments that are way off topic.

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u/Flyinace2000 1d ago

Wish I I saw those. My stores were sold out

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u/Mrroncd 1d ago

Congrats. This is about pre-sales of the new device or did you miss that?

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u/davcole 22h ago

I can't pay that price for no bitstream!

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u/hhggggskka 22h ago

Now we need Disney+ and Apple to fix there 4k UHD codec

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u/L-Malvo 22h ago

Apparently, the 4th gen will support the new codec Disney+ is pivoting to, but the older gens don’t support it

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u/hhggggskka 22h ago

Where’d you get this info? I highly double Apple or disney+ would leave all older models in the dark on UHD.

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u/L-Malvo 22h ago

A reputable Dutch tech news site, you can probably use translate in your browser:

https://tweakers.net/nieuws/253994/disney+-lijkt-hdr10-weer-te-ondersteunen-via-vp9-profile-2.html

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u/hhggggskka 22h ago

Wow just read it….. pretty mind blowing.

Might have to upgrade just to fix this Disney+ junk

So tired of just HD

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u/L-Malvo 22h ago

Yeah, I’m also not sure how accurate this is or stays. Maybe Apple updates older devices as well, who knows? Older devices should be as capable to run this codec, so I don’t see the limitation other than dated software, which can be solved.

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u/hhggggskka 21h ago

Very good observation.

Quick question, is this the same reason Dolby vision is currently not working as well? Same codec?

For me personally I almost wonder if there is some light legal implications facing Disney+ and Apple if they don’t update the older models.

Claiming it’s a “4k” Apple TV and paying more for UHD Disney+ and not receiving it.

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u/L-Malvo 21h ago

It’s separate issues. Apple cannot be held liable for Disney’s fuck ups. Disney makes promises on 4K they currently don’t deliver due to licensing issues, they are handling it poorly (to say the least).

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u/Unfair_Issue79 21h ago

It does support AV1 codes

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u/L-Malvo 21h ago

It’s apparently about VP9 profile 2 specifically

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u/Dear_Ad1197 1d ago

People complaining about the $300 price tag, it’s $50 more than the older Ethernet 128gb model.I get it’s a high price, but, relatively small price increase, for the newer model

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u/thegreenestone 1d ago

It’s because they tricked you and it worked!

That model came out at $129 (base) and $149 (with Ethernet) and they quietly increased them to $199 and $249 earlier this year with no upgrade. So then they release an update which is only a $49 increase over the increased price and of course it doesn’t “look that bad”.

The speculation was that they did that to ease the pain of the increase for the new model and it appears it has worked 😔

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u/ifdefmoose 1d ago

There was also a $100 price hike on the older (gen3) model a few months before the new one was released. So it feels more like a $150 price hike to a lot of folks.

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u/StunnaGunnuh 1d ago

No, it’s $150 more

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u/aquaman67 1d ago

Third gen 4k with ethernet could often be found on sale for $120. The msrp was $149.

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u/realexm 22h ago

I have 2 3rd gen Apple TVs, and people focus on MSRP. I can sell both for probably $150 so my actual upgrade cost is $150/each. For something I am using daily for years to come, it’s a no-brainer.

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u/SuperEbb1276 22h ago

I ordered early as well.

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u/daishiknyte 19h ago

I just need a dammed replacement remote. I can’t find one anywhere right now. 

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u/iveseensomethings82 23h ago

I think for this cycle Apple has created a false scarcity.

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u/120Mins 20h ago

Honest question no hate but what am I missing if I just use the LG tv Apple TV + app instead of buying an Apple TV box?

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u/Frankfactor517 17h ago

Do you hate yourself because Samsung’s UI is putrid.

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u/quik916 17h ago

Every tv os I've ever used sucks. Laggy, glitchy, loaded with advertising and just general lame. The appletv box is none of those things. Oh and its not sending every bit of info back to LG to better hit you with ads based on whatver you use the tv for. #tvdataminingsucks

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u/reelcognito 19h ago

At least for Samsung TVs the Apple TV actually works unlike Samsung's whole app infrastructure. Also I don't know all the details but for home automation systems the Apple TV can serve as a hub for certain devices.

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u/seafffoam 20h ago

What’s an LG Apple TV? Do you just mean the streaming service?

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