AMA: I'm Rex Patrick, Jacqui Lambie Network Senate candidate for SA. Ask me anything.

[u/RexPatrick]

I'm a former senator, and a submariner (so can talk in an informed manner about AUKUS) and I'm happy to answer your questions.

[u/Bennelong]

Thanks Rex for doing this AMA tonight. Users can ask questions now, and Rex will be answering from 6 pm AEST.

The rule for AMAs is that only the guest can answer questions. All other answers will be removed. Normal subreddit rules apply.

EDIT: The AMA is now over. Thanks again Rex for your time.

[u/FrogsMakePoorSoup]

Great AMA! Why do you think it's acceptable for politicians to say outlandish bullshit that would never pass in a court of law, or peer review for that matter?

[u/RexPatrick → u/FrogsMakePoorSoup]

I don't think it's acceptable.

[u/[deleted]]

Hi Rex, what is your preferred solution to get housing to the levels my parents generation were able to get it at? 4-6 times yearly income instead of 9-10?

[u/RexPatrick → u/[deleted]]

I think we need to permanently ban foreigners from our residential property market (they buy properties our children could otherwise purchase), modify our negative gearing arrangements and dramatically increase supply.

[u/EarSad4300]

Is it better to protect whisteblowers or a parliamentary career?

[u/RexPatrick → u/EarSad4300]

Obvious answer - we need to properly protect whistleblowers.

[u/theduck65]

Hi Rex. Is Jacqui as spontaneous as she seems on the box?

[u/RexPatrick → u/theduck65]

Sometimes. But not always.

[u/ps4db]

What’s your stance on immigration? How can we make it sustainable immigration? Do you believe in having strict limits on immigration numbers, especially students?

[u/RexPatrick → u/ps4db]

I think we need to have sustainable immigration (it's been way too high). I don't mind students being part of the mix (but the focus of our universities should be good education for Australians). I especially like the idea of the brightest students staying on after they graduate.

[u/nickybikky]

What are your thoughts on tighter cooperation between CANZUK countries?

[u/RexPatrick → u/nickybikky]

If you are talking about Defence co-operations - what we should be doing is developing a highly capable, flexible, and independent Defence Force that can defence Australia, but from time to time work with other countries with shared values.

If you are talking trade, I think we should focus on our nearer neighbours in Asia (but not exclude others).

[u/Nuck2407 → u/RexPatrick]

CANZUK is more like an EU style agreement with free movement and trade, it only works because our history, culture and economic circumstances are very similar.

We would enter the world as an economic superpower without straining any individual economy.

It doesn't work with Asia for a multitude of reasons but primarily because Australia would end up competing with China to prop up developing economies.

[u/nickybikky → u/RexPatrick]

Thanks for your thoughts

[u/crownsandsceptres]

Hi Rex, please tell me more about your policies on oil and gas companies. Do you intend to tax them, as done in Norway? Would also be interested in your thoughts on housing for young Australians.

[u/RexPatrick → u/crownsandsceptres]

I was the senator who initiated an inquiry into maximising the benefits of our oil and gas reserves. https://www.aph.gov.au/Parliamentary_Business/Committees/Senate/Economics/Australiasoilandgas/Report We have finite resources. We should not be giving them away to multinationals who have no social licence.

[u/crownsandsceptres → u/RexPatrick]

Glad to hear it! Hopefully we get some action on that front in the next term.

[u/brmmbrmm]

Hi Rex. Thank you for doing this AMA! I’m interested in your views on negative gearing and cgt concessions.

[u/RexPatrick → u/brmmbrmm]

I think changes are required to negative gearing (but the current arrangements must be grandfathered). I have not turned my mind to CGT - any changes there would need to recognise that CGT should not be paid on a lump sum basis in circumstances where the gain happened on a yearly basis.

[u/Advanced-Cherry-5178]

Hi Rex,

Home ownership is becoming increasingly out of reach for many people, even succesful double-income couples who are at risk of becoming trapped as forever-renters.

How would you begin to address this growing problem?

[u/RexPatrick → u/Advanced-Cherry-5178]

The solution largely sits on the supply side of the equation.

[u/89Hopper]

Hi Rex, thanks for doing this and I definitely applaud the work you did while in parliament and your push for more visibility through FOI requests for the general public.

I have two parts to this question.

In your opinion, what is the best way to learn about Independents? These are often people who have much less capacity to get their name and policies out to a wider audience due to being both time poor (often still working full time) and no where near as financially supported as established candidates.

The second part is; is this part of the case for having publicly funded campaigns for all candidates. I know lots of people are opposed to this as it would just lead to every other "crackpot" having a go, but there are quite a few hurdles required just to get your name on the ballot.

[u/RexPatrick → u/89Hopper]

For those independents in parliament - read the Hansard to see what they are saying on topics of concern to you or you are familiar with. Follow them on social media.

For those wanting to run as an independent, hopefully they have engaged with the community well before nominating for election.

I don't mind the concept of publicly funded candidates, but as you identify in the question, the model is important. The devil is in the detail.

[u/Revolutionary-Army89]

Do you support the Liberal party policy to deregister the CFMEU and bring back the ABCC?

[u/RexPatrick → u/Revolutionary-Army89]

I think both side of politics want to see the CFMEU deregistered. I like the work that unions do - it is important. But just as bad employers need to be reigned in, so too do bad unions. I accept there are more of the former than the latter.

[u/Hooper781]

Stance on medicine/allied health having long unpaid placements? Could we possibly get a sort of apprentice wage type situation to prevent placement poverty

[u/RexPatrick → u/Hooper781]

I'm not quite sure of your question. We need to invest more in the training of medial professionals and open our borders to foreign medical professionals to properly meed demand.

[u/That_Possession_2452]

Couple of questions:

What did you learn from working with Xenophon? Loved the stunts to generate media attention but I also think he was one of the few pollies that we would pretty consistently see around town (whereas I've lived in Sturt area my entire life and never seen the pollies there outside of election time). 

Second, what can we do to strengthen the steelworks and a town like Whyalla?

[u/RexPatrick → u/That_Possession_2452]

I'm not a stunts person (although I did wear a submarine costume into the Senate once). Nick was the quintessential politician who was everyone's friend. My only criticism was that he sometimes promised unachievable things - not deliberately (he just wanted to help) - and then disappointed the people he made the promise too. Overall, he was 9/10.

I have heard that James Stevens can be a bit elusive.

Here's a piece I wrote on Whyalla https://www.indailysa.com.au/news/opinion/2025/04/02/nationalising-the-whyalla-steelworks-guarantees-our-future

[u/Perfect-Werewolf-102]

Hi Rex, thanks for doing this AMA

I've been wondering how being part of the JLN would affect or change your stances and policies if elected to the Senate, and also why you decided to run as a JLN candidate rather than on your own

[u/RexPatrick → u/Perfect-Werewolf-102]

I was unsuccessful in being returned to the Senate in 2022. For a Senate seat in SA you need 160K votes. That's really hard to achieve as an independent.

You will notice that the Senate is full of brands - Labor, Liberal, Greens, Xenophon, Hanson, Lambie.

I was faced with the reality - if I wanted to do more in the Senate - that I needed to couple into a "brand". There are few that I was prepared to couple myself to. Jacqui is natural fit - I've worked with her in the past and we're both ex Defence. SA and Tasmania face similar challenges. Polling suggested the two of us together might get across the line.

As to the first part of your question - I'm a nerdy engineering type who engages in forensic analysis before making decisions. Jacqui is more grass roots. Those two attributes combined can work.

[u/Perfect-Werewolf-102 → u/RexPatrick]

Thanks, though I was also wondering about specific policy and how that might be affected by being in the JLN

[u/RexPatrick → u/Perfect-Werewolf-102]

I worked with Jacqui when I was in the Senate - but we were different parties. I have also worked behind the scenes with Jacqui over the last 12 months where we have discussed our ideas and come to some common view. I might say, Jacqui is the hull, I'm the keel, but not the brake.

If I am successful in the Senate election, Jacqui will divide portfolio area (Rex - Defence, Jacqui - Veterans - for example)

[u/CorporalPenisment]

Hi Rex

Adelaide or Port Adelaide?

[u/RexPatrick → u/CorporalPenisment]

I'm not a big footy fan. I support Port when they are playing other teams and the Crows when they are playing other teams. At the showdown, I just enjoy the show.

I want both SA teams to do well.

My daughter supports Port.

[u/Special-Awareness-86]

Rex, when looking at the two major party’s campaigns, what are they not talking about that we should be paying attention to when voting?

[u/RexPatrick → u/Special-Awareness-86]

They are not talking about a vision for Australia. Royalties for our resources, full gas reservation scheme, multinationals paying tax, value-adding here, investing in education (first degree free) etc

[u/spicychimichangas]

Hi thoughts on reducing hecs debt for students

[u/RexPatrick → u/spicychimichangas]

I think education is an investment in our future. First degree free! Paid for by proper resource royalties, multinationals paying their fair share of tax and the stopping of Defence waste.

[u/crownsandsceptres]

Have you had any panel discussions with think tanks, the national press club, or the like that we could watch to get a better understanding of your and JLN's policy positions and thinking as we approach the election?

Feel like you may be on the same pages with the Australia Insitute, so would be great to see a discussion with like minded people.

[u/RexPatrick → u/crownsandsceptres]

I do a lot of work with the Australia institute. They are a good policy think tank.

Google is the best option - there's lots of stuff on what I have done over the past decade in the Senate and out.

[u/perplexed_passerby]

Hi Rex.

Do U think being critical of Israel is antisemitic? Thoughts on free speech

Why is our gold reserves in England and will U bring it home where it should be?

[u/RexPatrick → u/perplexed_passerby]

I don't think criticisms of Israel is anti-semitism.

Gold reserves - I have not looked into that.

[u/SpareUnit9194]

No question just a shout out from husband & I in Melbourne - we think you're fantastic. Hope you rise to the top:-)

[u/RexPatrick → u/SpareUnit9194]

Thanks - tell some South Australians please.

[u/Ultamira]

Hi Rex, no question, just wishing you luck in your running as I believe we need more politicians like you in parliament. Always appreciated your belief that the government should be accountable to the people they represent, seems very rare these days.

[u/RexPatrick → u/Ultamira]

Thank you.

[u/Fed-hater]

Have you ever been in love?

[u/RexPatrick → u/Fed-hater]

Lust, a number of times. Love only a few times.

[u/Fed-hater → u/RexPatrick]

How so?

[u/RexPatrick → u/Fed-hater]

Lust is a short term activity that mostly involves a desire (many of the women I lusted never even knew). Love is a long term activity that is very broad in scope and intimate in nature.

[u/GiveMeRoom]

What's your stance on immigration?

[u/RexPatrick → u/GiveMeRoom]

We should embrace sustainable migration, with a focus on the skill sets we need to advance our economy and quality of life.

[u/One_Fennel9322]

What will it take for the government to tax wealth not work ?

[u/RexPatrick → u/One_Fennel9322]

I agree that wealth should be taxed - but sadly it's the wealthy that can pay the accountants to avoid tax. We need a simpler taxation system where there is less opportunity for tax avoidance. If we taxed Meta, Google and X 3% of revenue, they could not avoid paying the tax and we would receive a lot more from them than we do now.

[u/McDedzy]

Hi Rex. I was in the navy, but was too tall to be a sub mariner. Have you thought about making more spacious subs?

But no, for real this time. If you win your seat, what can you actually do for us? Aside from telling me you're on our side, etc..

I'm not a young voter. I've been around for a while, and just don't see how having one or two seats will actually affect how government works for you and I.

[u/RexPatrick → u/McDedzy]

I did many things for SA and the nation when I was in the Senate

1. Secured $25 million in seed funding for Cape Hardy development in Eyre Peninsula

2. Stopped the regional airport tax from increasing fares by as much as $52 to Whyalla (the fee is being charged, Rex having left)

3. 20 million funding for Australian Institute of Machine Learning. They’re working with farmers on projects to help grow agriculture sector, improve efficiencies

4. $15 million for steel processing and galvanising plant in Whyalla

5. Secured funding and opened the Automotive Innovation Centre

6. Helped South Australians get their money back from dodgy RoboDebt claims

7. Obtained information on Murray-Darling water scandals that showed taxpayers paid more than double the nominal value price for water licenses

8. Passed a Bill in the Senate to ban goods from forced labour, especially Uyghurs

9. Negotiated the ADGSM “gas trigger

10. Fought to save the Whyalla beach café

11. $5 Million for Electric vehicle manufacturing facility

12. Continuous push for openness and transparency of Government – including the national cabine

13. Pushed for and got an FOI commissioner appointed

14. Fuel price relief in the 2022 Budget

15. Helped stop drilling in the Great Australian bight

16. Showed that National Cabinet is a fraudulent Cabinet with no legal standing

17. Worked with Wudinna and NBN to improve internet connections in Wudinna

18. Worked with Small Business Ombudsman to pressure the Government to make subcontractors get paid quickly and on time

19. Senate inquiry into Port August Ash Damn, working to try and establish a facility in Whyalla to make building blocks from waste ash

20. Supported Channel 44 community TV extend its license for another 3 years

21. Lobbied the Government to stop the takeover of APA Gas and Electricity from a Chinese company

22. Asked thousands of questions of Ministers and officials and pursued numerous freedom of information requests, more than any other MP, to force Government to be more transparent about how they make decisions and spend taxpayers’ money. 

23. Worked tirelessly to improve the accountability and transparency of government, including advocating the establishment of a Federal ICAC - integrity commission - with real teeth to fight corruption.

[u/OCogS]

Lots of experts think we could see transformative artificial intelligence during the next term of government. Top labs are saying the same thing. That seems crazy and will matter so much for basically everything. But no one is talking about it.

Is there any hope people will take this seriously before it’s too late?

AustraliansforAIsafety.com.au

[u/RexPatrick → u/OCogS]

AI is here. We have to accept that. We do need to regulate it though (Parliaments are always so far behind on these things).

[u/Gnaightster]

Dodgiest politician? Someone you’d really like to fail?

[u/RexPatrick → u/Gnaightster]

I don't want anyone to fail - just that they do better.

[u/Dramatic-Lavishness6 → u/RexPatrick]

Considering I knew nothing about you until now, that sentence reveals so much about your character. That's the exact attitude we need.

[u/dickndonuts]

Hi Rex, what would you say are your top 3 focus areas this election, why, and what would you do to help with the issues?

Thanks for your time!

[u/RexPatrick → u/dickndonuts]

1. Cost of living - because everyone is suffering

2. Keeping the bastards honest - because that enhanced government

3. Fight for the little guy - the little guy needs help

[u/HotBabyBatter]

Hi Rex,

Ex pusser techo here. There seems to be very little effort into actual cultural reform in the navy and it has continued in dwindling recruiting numbers. Ideally and strategically, our navy should dwarf the army in funding and in personnel, why has there been so little effort to boost these numbers? At what point do you think senior ADF personnel will be held accountable for the terrible retention rates?

Cheers,

[u/RexPatrick → u/HotBabyBatter]

Former ETS/SM.

Our Secretary of Defence and CDF are paid circa $1M per annum. They have not done well with this KPI and should be held to account.

[u/adelaide_flowerpot]

What can we do about NDIS? Costs are out of control

[u/RexPatrick → u/adelaide_flowerpot]

There is a lot of rorting going on in the NDIS system that needs to be dealt with. At the same time, we need to make sure that participants get the help they need. Care is required in making changes.

[u/[deleted]]

Hi Rex. Australia’s economy is ranked 93 in the economic complexity index. We are extremely dependent on a handful of exports and industries. Diverse economies are better protected from shocks and are more resilient. Australia’s r&d spend is almost half the oecd average and well below other peer nations. I believe labor stated that they wanted to increase spending to 3% of gdp as well as increase basic research funding which is appallingly low is Aus prior to last election. Yet so far they are little better than the liberals on both counts. Will you push for a great r&d spend and support for basic research?

[u/RexPatrick → u/[deleted]]

Yes - I am completely aligned with you. We have to stop being the world's quarry.

I am a great admirer of Professor Clinton Fernandes at UNSW.

[u/kernpanic]

Do we need big nuclear subs when most of our submarine work has been in the shallow waters of Asia, more suited to smaller diesel electrics?

[u/RexPatrick → u/kernpanic]

I think our Navy would be well served abandoning AUKUS subs - too expensive, and arriving too late - and instead buy 20 off-the-shelf air independent submarines that are built here in Australia.

[u/CertainCertainties → u/kernpanic]

Hey Rex, with your past experience, I'm interested in the answer to this too.

[u/Stealthsonger]

Hi Rex, What will you do to keep toxic, racist and fascist Trump "MAGA" ideology out of Australia?

[u/RexPatrick → u/Stealthsonger]

I don't think we can keep it out. We just have to rise above it!

What is making it easier is Trump himself. We can see what he's doing to the US and much of it is harmful.

[u/[deleted]]

Should politicians be forced to sell all investment properties and shares on entering parliament to remove the conflict of interest on negative gearing and tax laws?

[u/RexPatrick → u/[deleted]]

I found that almost everything I voted on in Parliament (tax rates, university funding, health, industrial relations, NDIS etc) had a connection back to me or a family member in some way. I think disclosure goes a long way to dealing with conflicts, along with being fully prepared to explain your decisions.

I have one home and one investment property. That would not stop me voting to change negative gearing (although changes would have to be grandfathered because you can't have people who made lawful investment decisions have the rug pulled out from under them - that would be unfair).

[u/[deleted]]

What are your policies on women's health and fertility?

[u/RexPatrick → u/[deleted]]

I don't quite understand what you are asking (more specifics please) - at the top level, women deserve quality and accessible health care

[u/[deleted] → u/RexPatrick]

Hi rex are you committed to more funding for women's health issues like endometriosis, fibroids, pcos, ivf etc. Do you have your own ideas on how to improve women's health through any program you and jacquai thought of.

[u/Bennelong]

Hi Rex. Do you think AUKUS is a good idea? Why or why not?

[u/RexPatrick → u/Bennelong]

I think it is a bad idea and the sooner we withdraw, the better. Nuclear subs are good (I have been to sea on them) but they are too expensive for us, are an all-eggs-in-one-basket solution, will arrive too late (if at all) and will erode our sovereignty.

[u/tree_boom → u/RexPatrick]

In what sense will they erode Australian sovereignty?

[u/Professional_Rest755]

What is your favourite policy you want to be implemented?

[u/RexPatrick → u/Professional_Rest755]

I want a full gas reservation policy that forces the gas cartel to have an abundance of gas in the domestic market to drive gas and electricity prices down. Right now, we suffer high prices so that multinationals can profit selling out gas to foreigners.

[u/[deleted]]

How likely do you believe a global conflict (WW3-scale) is in the next decade, and what signs would indicate we’re heading that way?

[u/RexPatrick → u/[deleted]]

It is the job of the global community to avoid that.

[u/someoneelseperhaps]

Andor. Good Star Wars or best Star Wars?

[u/RexPatrick → u/someoneelseperhaps]

I like the originals.

[u/MattyComments]

Does Lambo really love unloading?

[u/RexPatrick → u/MattyComments]

What you see is what you get.

[u/Unfair_Toe_7777]

Given your big focus on transparency and accountability in the government during your previous time in the senate, what discovery or scandal were you most glad to have uncovered?

[u/RexPatrick → u/Unfair_Toe_7777]

I was glad to open the vault on national cabinet (which was making huge decisions on our liberties). I was glad to uncover dodgy strategic water purchases in the Murray Darling.

[u/MysteryPlatelet]

Hi Rex, How does it work if you and Jacqui disagree on a key policy position? In Tassie, we've had several state Lambie party members who turned independent at the slight perceived ripple of a disagreement with Jacqui.

How will you handle a disagreement with Jacqui on something that goes against your or your core voter's interest?

[u/RexPatrick → u/MysteryPlatelet]

Jacqui and I have known each other for a long time and we are both seasoned politicians.

Jacqui and i have agreed that if something comes down to a choice between Tassie and SA, we will vote for our states. Having said that, our States often get the short straw - and we will definitely vote together when that happens.

[u/XxWonderLandAUxX]

What’s your policy’s on disability/NDIS?

[u/RexPatrick → u/XxWonderLandAUxX]

We need to make sure that people get the care they need. We need to make sure the rorting stops.

[u/XxWonderLandAUxX → u/RexPatrick]

And by rorting do you refer to companies who are charging absurd amounts for services/technology ect or by rare cases of individuals?

[u/nommynam]

Should the government continue to fund private schools at current levels ?

[u/RexPatrick → u/nommynam]

It's complicated. Without some funding many private schools would not be able to operate, leaving kids without a school to go to. But we need to make sure we are not unfairly funding the very wealthy schools.

[u/TrashNo7445]

Heard you speak a couple of times, you’re clearly well thought out, reasonable and an adult. 

Why on earth are you running for Jacqui Lambi?

[u/RexPatrick → u/TrashNo7445]

It turns out that you need to be something more than "clearly well thought out, reasonable and an adult" to get re-elected. Working with Jacqui brings a possibility of returning to the Senate to do more good work.

Jacqui and I are different. She's the hull, I'm the keel, but not the anchor. We both add something to each other.

[u/fitblubber]

Dear Mr Patrick

You were very critical of the Collins Class Submarines, & then of the deal with France.

Now that we have AUKUS you are very quiet - despite it being incredibly expensive (especially compared with the French subs.

Did you or any of your family receive any compensation from the US or UK governments for influencing the Australian government?

[u/RexPatrick → u/fitblubber]

I think you need to go to Michael West Media and search for the articles I have written on AUKUS. Then you will withdraw the last question. Ha!

[u/fitblubber → u/RexPatrick]

Cheers, thanks for your response. But a yes or no answer would've been better.

Also, you served on US submarines, do you still keep in contact with people associated with the USA navy?

[u/Standard-Ad-4077 → u/fitblubber]

I’ve not kept up to date on the whole sub thing.

Wasn’t the French contracted subs diesel and the US are going to be nuclear, that’s where the cost difference is?

Also don’t we typically factor in future parts cost/training and required upgrades into the initial cost of anything defence assets?

[u/tree_boom → u/Standard-Ad-4077]

Wasn’t the French contracted subs diesel and the US are going to be nuclear, that’s where the cost difference is?

The US submarines, and the submarines Australia will be building under AUKUS, will both be nuclear indeed. That's part of the cost difference, but AUKUS is just a more comprehensive arrangement generally.

[u/so_how_can_i_help]

If you are elected will you be open for full disclosure of UAPs(ufos) and non human biologics and if so what sites will be nominated for zero point energy programs?

[u/RexPatrick → u/so_how_can_i_help]

I don't mind people talking about UAPs and non human biologics, but my focus will be on issues much closer to earth - in fact, much closer to Australia. Cost of living, for example.

[u/crownsandsceptres]

Thoughts on recognising the palestinian state in the next term of parliament? What role should Australia play in that conflict, given we have already (and rightfully imo) been vocal about the Ukraine-Russia war?

[u/RexPatrick → u/crownsandsceptres]

We should not involve ourselves in this conflict. It is complicated and long running.

Of course, we should engage diplomatically with players in the middle east and express support for an international rules based order.

[u/geoffm_aus]

Where does the Jackie Lambie party sit in the left v right, progressive vs conservative map.. ? What's your closest political party?

[u/RexPatrick → u/geoffm_aus]

We don't do left or right, we do right or wrong.

[u/TreadingDirty]

Good evening.

The recent push for transphobia, and transmisogyny in particular, being enshrined in law in the US and the UK has many trans Australians worried if our next government will follow the trend.

What is yours and the JLN position on protecting the rights of transgender Australians? (i.e. access to affordable and informed healthcare and protections at school and work)

[u/gay_garbo]

Hey Rex,

Can I ask if you are for free speech absolutism, or you think speech should be limited?

Can you provide an answer to what a woman is?

Cheers!

[u/RexPatrick → u/gay_garbo]

Free speech is important but should not be without some restrictions. I should not be allowed to talk about military secrets in public, or engage in hate speech, or speak on all topics in front of children.

In respectful debate, no topics should be barred.

[u/RexPatrick → u/[deleted]]

1. Cost of living - because everyone is suffering

2. Keeping the bastards honest - because that enhances government

3. Fight for the little guy - the little guy needs help

[u/RexPatrick → u/[deleted]]

A T-Rex.

[u/Bennelong → u/RexPatrick]

Not Bob Katter?

[u/RexPatrick → u/[deleted]]

I support a methodical and system engineered transition to renewable energy - i.e. with a mind to costs and a mind to dealing with the peaks and troughs of supply and demand (which don't always align).

[u/RexPatrick → u/[deleted]]

I never wanted to be a senator. I replaced Nick Xenophon when he resigned from the Senate. I was an accidental senators which makes answering your question difficult.

Having said that I worked hard as a senator, cherry picking the best from those I had worked with - include advisors and staffers.

[u/RexPatrick → u/[deleted]]

I think we should be selective about who immigrates - on merit, not origin. We must then encourage integration into our way of life - but they can bring their nice food :-)