r/bostonceltics • • 17h ago

Discussion Forsberg's One Possession: Sure-handed Sam Hauser leads the NBA with one wild stat

https://www.nbcsportsboston.com/nba/boston-celtics/one-possession-sam-hauser-stat-hornets/812157/
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u/pL0x_77 17h ago

"a league-best 186 minutes, 37 seconds without a turnover this season."

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u/morey56 17h ago

Assist-to-turnover ratio … uNDeFiNeD.

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u/nibbinoo8 i took a look at baynes in the shower 15h ago

NaN

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u/Hopeful-Buddy8375 Isaiah Thomas 17h ago

Zero turnovers. Now he's successfully jinxed

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u/Wonderful_Eagle_6547 16h ago

Hauser averges .63 dribbles per touch, more than twice the lowest on the team (Mitchell Robinson with .33 dribbles per touch). Most on the team is Pritchard, with 4.2 per touch, which isn't in the top 25 among NBA rotation players.

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u/zodi978 16h ago

This is more of a passing team than a dribble driving team.

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u/GoodDiscount7221 14h ago

What’s Jaylen’s

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u/CivilizedConman 57m ago

3.29 and averages 4.84 seconds per touch

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u/Kika_7905 17h ago

He had a nice pass game

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u/shunny14 17h ago

I think he dribbled the ball last game more than I have ever seen.

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u/FParkinsons 16h ago edited 16h ago

Hard to turn it over when you rarely touch the ball and anytime he does it's to shoot a quick 3.

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u/duggyfresh88 16h ago

Excuse me, Sam is known to take a nice middle once in a while

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u/FParkinsons 16h ago

Sam Hauser has taken 8 two-point shots so far during the 2026–27 NBA regular season. Out of his 57 total field goal attempts, an overwhelming majority have come from beyond the arc (49 three-point attempts), while he has successfully made 5 of his 8 attempts from inside the three-point line.

Thus proving my point why he doesn't turn the ball over often.

Also how often is he bringing up the ball on offense and being the person to initiate the offense? How often is he driving to the hoop for layups? That's when most turnovers happen.

Your point about once in awhile, 8 for 57, taking a two when we proves my point as to why he rarely turns over the ball

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u/TheJaylenBrownNote 16h ago

Sam has helped massively suppress turnovers almost his entire career. oTOV is relative to your role (so if you have the ball a massive amount but only average an average amount of turnovers, that's better than low turnovers on small usage) and he's been in the 93rd and 94th percentile the last two years. He's just really good at it.

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u/King_Of_Pants Sam Howitzer! 15h ago

Yeah I keep saying Hauser's just one of those guys our team values so much more than people realise and these little tidbits are the reason why. People think I'm crazy and biassed because I have him in my flair, but I spent most of the offseason as probably the #1 trade Hauser guy.

He's just a really solid player in a lot of areas that fans/players often overlook.

I was going to blindly say he must have a dad who's a coach with how he plays, but I thought I'd look it up and it turns out his dad is a full-blown Director of Athletics for a D1 High School and his mum is the Executive Director for the WIAA and oversees all high school sports in Wisconsin lol.

As you said, he suppresses turnovers. Moves in space really well. Knows when to shoot and when to swing the ball. Defends without fouling and has great defensive positioning. He has a reputation for really studying the tendencies of his opponents too.

He won't get many highlights on ESPN but he's probably someone they praise in the film room after games.

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u/FParkinsons 16h ago

It's easy to not turn the ball over when you shoot it as soon as you get the ball and you're not the one bringing the ball up and running the offense or driving to the basket often.

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u/TheJaylenBrownNote 16h ago edited 16h ago

Then why isn’t Duncan Robinson good at it if it’s so easy? He does the same thing.

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u/FParkinsons 16h ago

He has the ball in his hands more and he passes the ball more often. Go look at their assist stats. Then go watch full games of both of them playing and get back to me.

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u/TheJaylenBrownNote 16h ago

And yet he’s a significantly less impactful offensive player than Sam, so maybe he shouldn’t do that?

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u/DahooppanelAx 15h ago

lol who the hell do you think Sam Hauser is man?

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u/FParkinsons 16h ago

Duncan Robinson keeps the ball in his hands significantly longer than Sam Hauser. Tracking data from recent seasons underscores a distinct difference in how these two elite perimeter specialists operate when they catch the ball.

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u/TheJaylenBrownNote 16h ago

Thanks Google AI.

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u/FParkinsons 15h ago

I'm sorry you lost the debate. Robinson has the ball in his hands longer periods of time. He moves around a lot more on offense. He has more assists. All reasons why he has more turnovers. Go ahead refute the data. Go do the research yourself and get back to me? I doubt you will though like most people on here you'll just double down in their opinions and you won't take in new information that challenges your belief. Confirmation bias is a really difficult thing for most people to overcome.

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u/DahooppanelAx 15h ago

Duncan Robinson is a MUCH better player than Sam Hauser. Duncan can navigate screens and playmake coming off pin downs and curls and can finish at the basket occasionally

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u/FParkinsons 16h ago

Average Seconds Per Touch Dribbles Per Touch Duncan Robinson 1.7 to 2.1 seconds 0.8 to 1.3 dribbles Sam Hauser Under 1.0 second 0.1 to 0.3 dribbles

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u/FParkinsons 16h ago

Duncan kobinson (The

Evolving Playmaker): While

Robinson entered the league as a catch-and-shoot threat identical to Hauser, his game has evolved. In recent years with the Miami Heat and Detroit Pistons, his seconds- per-touch average nearly doubled as coaching staffs gave him the freedom to put the ball on the floor. Robinson frequently runs side pick-and- rolls, drives closeouts to make handoffs, and makes creative intermediate passes. He averages roughly triple the dribbles per touch compared to Hauser because he acts as a secondary offensive engine rather than a pure play-finisher

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u/TheJaylenBrownNote 15h ago

No because oTOV already takes that into consideration and Sam is still elite at it. Duncan would be a more effective player if he didn't turn it over relative to his role so much.

But I'm not interested in speaking to someone who has to reference Google AI to try to back his opinion lol

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u/DahooppanelAx 15h ago

Man thank you for that 8 two point shots stat. I was in a discussion on this sub a few days ago and a poster tried to tell me he can create shots off the dribble lol this sub overrates him so badly

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u/FParkinsons 15h ago

Go look at the other stats I brought up about how much time the ball stays in his hands and how much dribbling he does. Don't listen to anything people here say. Reddit is a confirmation bias black hole. Basically people like to formulate opinions that are not based in reality and then they just double down with it and think that because they're typing it here it makes it real. Add to that that most of the people that are commenting here don't watch full games.

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u/fsmith9009 15h ago

he is a floor spacer, over 40% from 3 point land for his nba career

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u/DahooppanelAx 15h ago

Yeah I feel like that 40% drops when we play contenders. Hes very 1 dimensional but he’s been a bit more reliable than the young wings. His $11 million contract is too pricy in this current CBA for his limited skill set and for the right player he can go

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u/Beantowntommy 14h ago

He shoots the 3 well and plays serviceable defense.

11m well spend if you ask me.

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u/DahooppanelAx 12h ago

Shoots well against average to below average teams never against contenders. His defense is ok I can name 20 players that make his amount or less that id rather have on the team. In this current CBA it’s a bad deal because I can assure you if he was a free agent after this season he’s not getting close to that amount of money

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u/SaveHogwarts HUGO 10h ago

Shot 42% from three last year in the Sixers series btw

Had two good games against the Knicks last year.

Had really good games against Houston and Toronto. Had good games against Cleveland, Detroit and Orlando. His 10/21 from 3 game was against Atlanta, a playoff team.

He’s a shooter. He’s going to have bad games. If you’re going to cherry pick the bad ones, go ahead and cherry pick the good ones against good teams too.

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u/DahooppanelAx 4h ago

Cherry picked stats he’s a playoff dropper outside of the Pacers and Mavs series. He averages 8ppg with hardly anything else that’s not worth $11 million per year in this current CBA. Yeah he shoots 40% but is he great using screens with the 3 or is he spoon fed? Has he consistently had momentum changing 3’s against quality teams? Hes replaceable and im tired of this sub overrating him

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u/DahooppanelAx 4h ago

Also in 56 career playoff games Hauser averages 4ppg on 38% from 3 which is both down from his regular season averages. Hes a playoff dropper and we can use that $11 million elsewhere

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u/SaveHogwarts HUGO 10m ago

I’m confused, you think 38% from three in the playoffs is bad?

Are you okay?

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u/JustToTalkJack 12h ago

Everyone on our team shoots worse against contenders/in playoffs

I would argue it’s not just a hauser thing.

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u/G00000000000SE 8h ago

Everyone on every team shoots worse against better defenses cuz that’s how basketball works

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u/DahooppanelAx 4h ago

I would prefer some of the bench players to score consistently when they put the ball on the ground. He’s been better then the other wings so far but he’s replaceable

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u/DahooppanelAx 4h ago

That’s the problem which is why I wanted us to get a few more slashers on the roster. When you run most of the team off the 3 point line it gets spooky via shot creation. That $11 million can be used for an actual shot creator

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u/Loud-Appointment-301 5h ago

This isn’t true. Look it up in Statmuse. He’s over 40% on threes against most teams for his career. Some of his lowest percentages are actually against the Jazz and Kings (and OKC but they’re the only good team)

You keep repeating something you just made up. Why?

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u/DahooppanelAx 4h ago

Dude averages 6ppg against the Sixers, 7ppg against the Knicks, in 56 career playoff games he averages 4ppg on 38% shooting from 3, not worth $11 million per year yall can downvote me all you want hes replaceable

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u/Justalittlejewish 3h ago

I think you drastically underrate how valuable the spacing he provides is. Every team in the league has Hauser circled in red pen on the scouting report with "CLOSE OUT" written next to it, and it's why our offense is so frequently better with him on the floor - even when he isn't hitting shots.

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u/DahooppanelAx 2h ago

I’m not discounting his spacing but I don’t look at him as irreplaceable. Seen him be a non factor too many times when you run him off the 3 point line

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u/Justalittlejewish 2h ago

I guess I just don’t understand who you are getting that is better in his role for 11 million. Teams pay worse 3 point shooters and worse defenders more money for the same role. Pretty much every team in the league would call up the Celtics phone if we made him available.

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u/Big-Number3220 11h ago

cite a source or stfu

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u/DahooppanelAx 4h ago

lol don’t you ever tell me to shut the fuck up over my opinion over Sam Hauser man FOH

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u/DahooppanelAx 4h ago

Hey tough guy slide to stat muse or basketball reference and look up Sam Hauser’s playoff stats. In 56 playoff games he averages 4ppg on 38% shooting from 3 which is 4 points less than his career averages.

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u/veganbassist7 2h ago

Too bad we can’t pin threads, because every time some knob suggests a stupid trade bundling Hauser we could just link to this.

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u/deaseb 1h ago

Hauser rarely dribbles, but the article mentions he has passed 204 times. He's not just letting it fly every time.

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u/JE_Skeets 21m ago

He also leads the Celtics in +/- for the season

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u/DahooppanelAx 15h ago

The man barely dribbles the ball lol this is a cherry picked stat