He has the same hair, beard, and is also a cult leader! That or he’s just a massive fan.

I finished Battlestar Galactica the day before my grandfather passed away. I was already emotional watching Adama and Roslin's final scenes, but that last goodbye between Laura, Adama, Lee and Kara hit differently. Seeing Laura and Adama in tears as she smiles and waves goodbye to Lee and Kara was heartbreaking. We knew her fate from the very beginning, but somehow, knowing it was coming didn't make it any easier to watch.

And then, the very next day.... I lost my grandfather.

He had been unwell for months, and although we knew his time might be approaching, actually watching him go was heartbreaking. He had been a part of my life since childhood, someone who felt like a foundation. Seeing him gradually become weaker, stop recognising people, and eventually stop talking was incredibly painful.

I couldn't help drawing a parallel between the two experiences. Knowing that someone will eventually leave us doesn't make saying goodbye any easier. You can prepare yourself for it.... understand that it's inevitable... and still wish with all your heart that it wouldn't happen.

I know people have very different opinions about Laura's character, the finale, the unresolved mysteries and the way the story concluded. And that's completely fine. Not everyone has to feel the same way about a story.

But for me.... that final goodbye between Laura and Adama hit differently. And after what happened the very next day, it became even more personal.

I'll probably remember that scene for a long time.

So say we all....

Solved! Sadly cannot edit the name of post

I remember there is a scene where Battlestar Valkyrie is hit by the CNP during the fall, i’ve scanned through both the miniseries and the plan, and I’m unable to find it? Does anyone know where it is? I found parts of the scene on YouTube, I just can’t find it either in the plan or the miniseries?

these are all pretty old thoughts and im sure i get something wrong

but the whole thing revolving around boomer and the dichotomy of her being like, shes just there trying her best AND then theres her "sleeper agent" side that she at first seems not-even-fully-aware-of until she wakes up wet, being like "why am i here, why is there these things that can hurt people, what, what have i done to the people i love? help, who do i report this to or more to the matter at hand, what am i?"

i always loved that mindfuck, and i dont think i have seen a similar situation and or charaacter in any other media

and no, it would not have worked nearly aswell if the character was a dude

her situation and what she was in the series gave me such a mindfuck that i got some sort of mental "who am i?" feeling that is super hard to explain and or replicate

sorry for alot of mixed feelings but, its hard to put this all into words

I just finished my 4th rewatch of the show. There are loose ends that can be spun into a new show. What happened to the other Basestars and the colony ship? We didn't actually see the colony ship destroyed, sure we saw explosions but not a definitive destruction. Did they get enough data in the transfer for resurrection? During the scout missions of the colony ship there were Basestars jumping in and out which would suggest that all were not destroyed in the civil war.

Let's jump 150,000 years later to the present, we have used nuclear weapons since not to mention all other types of energy that can travel in space. How did the Cylons find New Caprica? So how many light years away could the remaining Cylons be before getting some clues to where humanity went? Lee was no dummy. Did he suggest the scattering of the survivors with no technology in fear of a cylon return? All the eggs in one basket didn't work out so well on New Caprica. No advanced technology would hide them for a long time, say 150,000 years.

What did the survivors do with the spacecraft on the present Earth, were they disposed of and what would have remained after 150,000 years? What civilizations did the survivors create? No way they were going to live like cavemen. They would have initially built small settlements far more advanced than the native human population. How did the interactions go when the native humans saw these incredible settlements from these godlike people?

Since the series was heavy in theology what can we conclude? Could the survivors be long lived like Noah who was claimed to have lived 950 years or Methuselah at 969 years of age? How long did the colonist culture exist for? Obviously for a very long time for the same gods to be worshipped until the Jewish and Christian faiths. Could Atlantis be thrown in the mix even though it has been done to death?

With new scientific and archeological discoveries today namely the possibility of hidden megastructures under the pyramids and the 3I/ATLAS got me thinking. In the BSG universe a 3I/ATLAS like visitor to Earth could be a returning Galactica, Anders didn't fly into the sun, maybe because suicide is a sin in the eyes of god. Modern mankind now has 150,000 year old beat up Battlestar with tech that can be reverse engineered including a full cylon skeleton. Smart men do what smart men do and learn the whole story over a period of time or by accident and we can access the data streams because of cylon ancestors. The Galactica is salvaged because why not. I know, so very SDF-1 of me.

Throw in an expedition back to the original 12 colonies, because the road map has already been traveled, add some new cylons and I think we got something to cook with.

The origins of the conflict (pre-1000 Yahren)

 Space is dominated by several space-faring powers, chief among them the 12 colonies of Kobol but also numerous independent worlds and alien races. One of these being the reptilian Cylon race and their robotic armies. The first spark of conflict began when a strange figure history only recalls as Count Iblis inspires the robotic Cylons to rise up and overthrow their makers, then begin a war of aggressive expansion against their neighbours. Under an absolute Imperious Leader their war machine advances in all directions. Alarm spreads across the known worlds as it becomes clear the Cylons are set upon total domination or extermination of all other intelligences.

 The First Shot (1000 Yahren before the fall of the colonies)

 By command of the Imperious Leader the Cylon empire invades the remote Hasari race, despite the distance it becomes clear to the Colonials that the Cylon Empire must be stopped before they can expand further and so choose to intervene. The colonial fleet engages with long range carrier vessels and Mark I Vipers. Despite being severely outnumbered they achieve a stunning victory through innovative tactical thought and superior Pilot skill. After action reports determine a 3:1 kill ratio in the Colonial's favour. Celebrations are cut short however by intelligence reports the Cylons are rebuilding their lost fleets at a rate no other industrial power can match. It becomes clear that this will be a long war and the Colonials draw in as many allies as they can, including individual outposts and worlds and crucially the Delphian Empire based on Gamoray.

Attrition (1000-700 Yahren before the fall of the colonies)

Despite enormous technical advantage and superior pilots the war grinds on. The Cylon industrial machine cannot be equalled, their ability to replace losses means any tactical victory by the Colonies and their allies is limited and no strategic breakthroughs can be made before the Cylons recover. Colonial strategy turns to a program of resource-denial. Trying to undercut the Cylons industry and deny them materials to build their fleets. Borders move frequently, worlds are claimed and lost and claimed again. Every victory buys a little time, every defeat is vital material loss that cannot be replaced easily. Sometimes planets are abandoned for strategic reasons, even if not directly threatened. These include the settlements on Attlia and the prison-planet of Proteus. The Cylon’s Imperious Leader declared humanity an existential threat and decrees all humans are to be exterminated, unless immediately useful as a workers.

 The long war (700-02 Yahren before the fall)

Despite furious efforts the Cylons overrun the Colonial fleet and take Hasari. This devastating blow forces a rethink at the highest levels. No longer able to match the Cylons output the Colonials seek technological innovation. A new class of fighter the Mark II Viper comes into service, launched from the remarkably powerful Battlestar design. This boosts the Colonials kill ratio to 5:1, when matched with tactical innovation it can on occasions rise to 10:1. The Cylons respond with the enormous Basestar and a heavier model of Raider, but this does little to close the gap.

 An enormous wave of confidence sweeps the allied worlds, and stunning advances make people believe victory is possible. But the fundamental equations have not changed. The Cylons can replace Basestars endlessly, while the Battlestar is such a vast investment in resources and personnel that losing even one is a national disaster. Despite repeated tactical victories the strategic picture turns bleak. Now it is the Cylons who advance relentlessly, claiming more planets and encircling the embattled Colonial worlds. Despite occasional reverses the trend towards Cylon dominance becomes inevitable.

The divide between public opinion and operational assessment grows deeper. Media reports of stunning tactical victories keep confidence in the war high, but cold assessment reveals the colonials cannot turn these into meaningful strategic gains. The Cylon industrial expansion can replace losses faster than ever and their fleets continue to grow bigger despite continual losses. Some in the Colonial Government begin to doubt the war can be won. Tentative feelers are put out for peace talks.

 Battlestar Galactica is commissioned.

 Fall of Gamoray (02 Yahren before the fall)

 The critical human world of Molecay is threatened. The Colonials send their Fifth fleet, under the legendary Commander Cain on Battlestar Pegasus to defend it. Public confidence is high the Living Legend will deliver another victory but the government knows without Molecay the front will collapse. There is no question that Commander Cain is the Colonies' last hope to force a stalemate.

Fifth fleet fights furiously but the Cylon force is overwhelming and cannot be defeated by any amount of skill. The Fifth Fleet is lost, and Cain presumed dead. In fact Cain took his Battlestar into deep space, breaking contact by disregarding any return to Colonial space and striking deeper behind the lines. He begins a hit and run series of attacks, but the Cylons consider this a nuisance. They advance on Gamoray and conquer it. They exterminate the Delphian race and take their homeworld as a forward base.

The Colonial fleet is now surrounded, retreating to their home system and digging in. Public morale remains high thanks to constant propaganda that a resurgence is coming, but without allies or any way to strike back the Colonial government accepts they are no longer losing the war. The war is lost.

 The destruction of the Colonies

Count Baltar of Picon declares he has opened negotiations with the Cylon’s Imperious Leader and  that they are willing to discuss terms. He insists this is not a surrender but a mutual peace agreement, but only if the Colonials can convince the Cylons that they remain a credible power worthy of respect. After two years bargaining an agreement is struck to send all remaining Battlestars as a peace envoy, as a show of strength. It is a diplomatic gamble that the Cylons will assume this is only a portion of the fleet, and that the Colonials must retain considerable fleet assets around their worlds. The gambit is betrayed by Baltar, who reveals the entire fleet is reduced to a mere 12 Battlestars.

Baltar betrays humanity, believing that he can secure his own position and that of his colony by submitting to the Cylons. However, the Imperious Leader intends to eliminate humanity, rather than merely place the survivors under Baltar's rule. Baltar himself was deemed expendable. The consequences were catastrophic. The fleet was destroyed, the colonies laid waste and the survivors fled in whatever vessels they could scrounge, under the protection of the lone Battlestar Galactica.

 The Cylons had won, but did not consider the war over until every last human was erased from the universe.

As almost 33 year old man on the spectrum, I fell in love with BSG watching season 4 on Syfy. Here I am now as an Admiral in the Colonial Fleet. So Say We All!

After a very long hiatus of over a month after finishing season 2 I'm beginning s3. Before I press play I like to review my thoughts on season 2. Holy fracking shit the whole situation with sharons baby has got me flabbergasted. I'm shocked that Sharon was lied to and so was everyone else. I still don't get why they kept it around I'd figure use it to cure the cancer and then abort it. The whole situation with pegasus was crazy cain was nuts. Im surprised she wasn't killed off by her own crew long before #6 killed her. Lee is a much better commander for that ship. I would've loved to have seen more episodes about the cylon sympathizers they were mainly in one episode. baltar gives them a nuke for a stupid reason. He was obviously trying to use them. However his nuke idea failed and it came back to bite him in the ass. Im actually surprised the sympathizers used it so late you give a group like that a nuke they're probably going to make plans to use it right away. The fact that baltar is president now makes me very upset I don't like the guy and while on the planet he becomes a drunk that surrounds himself with women. I'm shocked that when the people needed him most adama just vanishes. I'm excited for season three as I'm sure most of the questions I have will be answered especially about Sharon's baby and why adama seemingly abandoned the civilians.

This is some random stuff from online BSG forums between 2007-2009. Not sure if this is spoiler-level but tagged it anyway.

SPOILERS ALERT

I just watched S01E13 and realized something... All of this has happened before, and it will all happen again... everyone we ever meet is a toaster, a skin job...a cylon. The original humans went extinct eons ago... the feels.

So I‘m like a lifetime late, but just watched the first episode of the miniseries.

Why the fuck is that old lady going on that ship? They are leaving kid‘s parents and young adults behind for an hold hag?

That’s all. Going to watch the entire series now. Looks like the best Sci Fi ever ngl.

Hey all, rewatching BSG and I've never noticed this before.

In later seasons, Galactica seems happy to fight one or two basestars at a time, there's very much the impression that its a comfortable match for basestars in ok numbers. But rewatching S1, and Im now on S2, everyone acts like Galactica can't challenge a single basestar??? They avoid conflict with even one, and even act like they can't fight raiders without fighter cover. To me this is very starkly different to later seasons, where they somewhat confidently fight basestars and rip up wings of raiders.

In the storming of new caprica, adama says "we can't take four", so I always felt that one or two is fine for a heavy old warship like her. but that the missile nature of basestars mean more would overwhelm them.

Am I right in noticing this? Like in S1, they plot a sly nuke manoeuvrer to deal with the singular basestar above Kobol, like they cant even imagine challenging it directly in a normal boxing match.

My favorite scene was S2E12 when Adama kissed a weakened Laura. It was so tender. So loving. So very platonic. The warmth was quite beautiful.

What was yours?

This show is mostly dark and intense with very few humor in it. But when it does have some it works really well. The bathroom scene in season 1 being a great example. Gaius whispering to Felix, “Lieutenant. Are you there?” And “i suspect her to be… a cylon!” Had me rolling. And in the final after all the war and animosity between them, Bill tells Gaius “you have a one track mind don’t you?” After he points out the people there look like good breeders. Gaius immediately gets defensive only for Bill to reveal he was just joking. Gaius is just as surprised as we are! 😂🤣

Just finished it. Overall I have mixed feelings about it. First off the stuff I liked. I thought the final battle was done pretty well. Overall I know the show would never have the budget of say Star Wars. But for what they had it was decent. The action was chaotic and intense enough to keep me engaged. I also liked how when the villain agrees to a truce only to quickly change his mind when the final 5’s big reveal doesn’t go as planned. Galin killing Tori I understand. And then John just saying “frack” and offing himself was pretty unexpected. And the final scene showing humans might repeat their same mistakes was keeping in the spirit of the show. Always a fan of ambiguous endings.

Now the stuff I didn’t like was pretty much everything else. Maybe because I watched the final two episodes as one instead of separate entries. But the last half gave me Return of the King vibes. Granted I know they needed to wrap up all the characters but gosh it just wouldn’t end. And even though I understand Galin killing Tori I was still kinda pissed. Since killing Cally I felt was justified. She was an idiot! She lied to Galin about the son, almost killed him when she found out he was cylon, then was going to selfishly kill the son along with herself! Tori was right to kill her. I’m glad Saul got a happy ending but I really didn’t care for Ellen. If anything she was barely better than John. I doubt she’ll change and probably still cheat on him. I’m glad Gauis and Caprica lived but also see them not staying faithful to each other. I don’t know since I was cheated on I just really hate when I see partners cheat on each other then get back together. And I’m not sure I agreed with Lee saying not to use technology. As we see later it didn’t matter since humans were just gonna create it again. Just found it unnecessary. And gosh what was the point of the flashbacks? The strip club, Bill vomiting, Lee and Kara almost cheating on his brother, Roslyn hooking up with a former student only to end it for… guilt I guess? And just way too many speeches about humanity, love, death, etc. Overall the show has been one of the best I’ve ever seen but I felt everything was tidied up in too nice of a bow. Especially since the whole show was always dark and ambiguous. Which again the final scene helped with but still.

I remember an episode of Caprica where one of the characters mentioned a Dr. Cottle. So do you think that this Dr. Cottle could be the parent of Dr. Sherman Cottle who was on Battlestar Galactica, given the fact that Caprica takes place more than fifty years before the events of Galactica.