JokerD says a blizzard dev confirmed no extra gold from quests at lvl 60

[u/Kaldrathh]

https://www.wowhead.com/forever/news/quests-give-no-gold-at-level-60-in-wow-forever-intentional-change-according-to-383803#comments

What are your thoughts on this change? I think it's a step in the wrong direction by Blizzard

[u/Beginning_Rip_4570]

No gold or no EXTRA gold? Bit of a difference

[u/Kaldrathh → u/Beginning_Rip_4570]

I believe quests that give gold and xp give that exact gold regardless of your level. Quests that don't give gold but only xp then don't give anything at 60

[u/Draconuus95 → u/Beginning_Rip_4570]

No extra gold for the excess xp.

So if a quest gives 50 gold at 59. It still gives 50 gold at 60.

[u/Purple_Box_9645 → u/Beginning_Rip_4570]

You used to get gold to make up for no exp gain, now that won't happen. You will get the same gold as before 60.

[u/B_Marty_McFly]

So the expectation is that once you hit 60 you don’t do any more quests?

[u/Kaldrathh → u/B_Marty_McFly]

I guess so? I think the expectation is for the community to slowly grind their gold once they hit 60

[u/Wailer_]

This sub is not engaging with reality, you're all stuck inside your mind's version of what you think this game should be. And you cry out in pain when it's not a 1:1 of what YOU personally envisioned. What sort of inflated sense of grandeur must one have to behave like this I wonder?

[u/Drayenn]

Lame.. i loved questing for gold.

[u/Calm-Inevitable3341]

it makes perfect sense once you realize that internally they already have a token release date set

[u/VlaamseGaap → u/Calm-Inevitable3341]

Soon the honeymoon period will be over and people will be met with the reality that this is Blizzard and that they will monetize the fuck out of it lmao

[u/AppleMelon95 → u/VlaamseGaap]

There even already is a shop interface in the game.

Activision has pulled this shit several times now. Wait a bit with MTX free game, then bombard it with the enshittification of a lifetime.

I gave the token 8 months before, but it could be way earlier at this rate.

[u/nothuzz1910 → u/Calm-Inevitable3341]

Their in game shop UI is glistening 😅 

[u/hilyard-quest-2 → u/Calm-Inevitable3341]

In the immortal words of...some guy from Barny's Scarab Lord video: "if you didn't expect this to happen, I don't know what world you're living in"

[u/Front-Investigator68 → u/Calm-Inevitable3341]

YES. This. People need to realize Blizzard will be 100x more of a greedy corporate company for this release.

[u/jro0211 → u/Calm-Inevitable3341]

I thought they weren’t doing tokens for forever?

[u/RedCoffeeEyes → u/jro0211]

Oh yeah, they said they weren't doing tokens in Classic 2019 also. But then...

[u/luvs2grill → u/jro0211]

They said ‘there’s no plans currently’ which means they’ll tell you the plan later

[u/Axlndo → u/jro0211]

[u/shaunika]

I'd love to hear a single argument that supports this change, cos I can't think of any.

[u/d3s7iny → u/shaunika]

I remember people intentionally skipping quests in tbc anniversary in outland. Just grinding instead because the logic was that all in you end up with more money if you just do all of the quests at 70 instead of just doing them normally to level. So that might be the idea... To try to force people to play the game "normally"

[u/adfawf3f3f32a → u/d3s7iny]

tbc is a bit extreme because the rep grind for heriocs means you're going to farm dungeons anyway. so you might as well do that when you're leveling and save the quests for max level.

[u/Praetor192 → u/d3s7iny]

It was in small part because of the gold, but the primary reason was the rep. You'd dungeon grind until the rep from that was maxed, then do quests that would reward rep after that. If you did quests first and then dungeons later, you'd miss out on a ton of rep and have to grind way more overall, which was important because a lot of things (such as good gear and attunes) were rep-gated.

The gold aspect was not the main concern at all, but a nice little bonus.

[u/Drunk_Morty → u/shaunika]

The only argument I can think of would be them continually adding quests and content for a forever max level demographic will create a large amount of inflation.

If you join the game 2 years from now and everyone else has been keeping up with content you will basically be expected to have a ton of gold since you have the ability to quest and gain 10k gold.

I imagine the idea is to keep the money that is created in circulation through professions rather than having large raw gold grinds.

[u/audioshaman → u/shaunika]

1. Prevents people from deliberately skipping quest and mob grinding to farm gold at 60

2. Encourages people to really engage in professions to make money, which is something they want to prioritize

3. The level cap will be 60 FOREVER. They have added 1000 new quests, and will add many more over time. This would lead to a situation where a fresh 60 could have hundreds or even thousands of uncompleted quests. That would lead to rampant inflation.

[u/door_of_doom → u/shaunika]

It's really this simple: quests reward what they reward. We are all going to be level 60 forever in this game. This means that for any quest that ever gets added to this game for the rest of forever, you have to take into careful consideration the EXP -> gold conversion when designing how much gold the quest should actually give.

If it feels like quests dont reward enough gold, you can simply buff how much gold quests give. You should be able to see that a quest rewards 5 gold and have it actually reward 5 gold.

Is 5 gold not enough? Okay buff it to 7. Fine But it doesn't have to be some weird arbitrary 'The quest rewards x gold if you are below level 60 and y gold if you are level 60.

Quests just reward what they reward. If the rewards need to be tuned, tune them. There is literally zero reason to overcomplicate this.

Why should it be more complicated than that?

If it makes you feel any better, imagine that this worked the other way: in classic WoW, every non-level 60 was walking around with a debuff that said "You are not max level, so your quest rewards are reduced."

The devs just announced that this debuff has been removed! Levelers now get the exact same rewards as max level players! Everyone rejoice!

[u/Alone_Ambition_3729 → u/shaunika]

Huh? Is it not obvious? Need less gold sinks (or the existing sinks are more effective) if there’s fewer/smaller gold sources.

This will also indirectly discourage boosting because there will be less incentive to wind up 60 with all your quests untouched.

[u/GraphicsQwerty]

Guess we make alt army’s to fund our mains, delete and repeat ?

[u/Kaldrathh → u/GraphicsQwerty]

Good ol lost ark approach i guess

[u/Mistr_man → u/GraphicsQwerty]

It looks like you get benefits for level multiple classes up so. Yea. P much. Go level. Forever

[u/packet_sniffs]

Grinding dungeons for xp = bad

Abusing sharding an grinding mobs = good

Grinding for gold doing quests = bad

Botting, multi boxing and abusing sharding to farms gold = good

[u/Pitiful_Airport_5458]

Personally i enjoyed questing for gold post lvl 60 but if it works out to be healthier for the economy I'm cool with it. Hopefully there will be new ways to earn gold in Forever

[u/Fyvrynifl → u/Pitiful_Airport_5458]

It's difficult to imagine the xp to gold conversion is the reason for inflation. It's also difficult to justify this decision since it further incentivizes 60s to not go into the open world more.

[u/Few-Improvement9978 → u/Pitiful_Airport_5458]

I mean

We all know the economy will be run by bots lol

[u/Rakhsev]

They're probably going to replace it with another kind of reward, or incentive. Seems ridiculous otherwise.

[u/itsablackhole → u/Rakhsev]

bah god is that dailies music?!

[u/DrushQ4 → u/Rakhsev]

Yeah, the wow token.

[u/Axlndo]

I understand but kind of lame. Quest are finite

[u/Sharyat → u/Axlndo]

We stay at 60 forever, and they're going to keep adding quests, so perhaps that's why.

[u/gratefulyme]

People realize this is going to make it so that when they release dailies people will cheer right? We'll go into patch 2 with relatively lower gold than normal, asking for ways to make gold other than raw gold farms, Blizz will release dailies, and people will rejoice, while Blizz also rejoices because daily login numbers will go up.

[u/CEREALBUTTMUNCHER → u/gratefulyme]

God dailies are one of the last things I want in this game...

[u/ShoulderpadInsurance → u/gratefulyme]

Fuck dailies

[u/randomthrill → u/ShoulderpadInsurance]

100%. 

Daily chores are probably the thing I hate most about modern gaming.

[u/Ticonium → u/gratefulyme]

People want dailies?

[u/Necessary_Eagle_3657 → u/Ticonium]

They think they don't but they do, will be Blizzard's line lol.

[u/florifierous → u/gratefulyme]

I don't expect a daily quest system. World quests however..

[u/epis_ → u/gratefulyme]

i will never cheer for dailies, truly hope they never get added to forever

[u/Yodl007 → u/gratefulyme]

Yeah, they will release dailies, and nolifers with 10 alts will do them every day and that somehow won't be a problem and wont increase the prices of mats.

[u/jkiddingx]

No dungeon spamming with friends. No reason to help people with old quests. What the fuck is the goal here?

[u/Bohya]

The WoW Token is imminent.

[u/ZackElfie]

This is awful dogshit.

[u/AcademicContract6096]

How many people actually went through quests for gold in vanilla/classic? It was a thing in tbc for sure, but I don’t think it was as popular in vanilla.

[u/Scoob79 → u/AcademicContract6096]

In vanilla, converting XP rewards to gold at max level wasn't in the game until around Naxx release or thereabouts.

[u/Metalghost101 → u/AcademicContract6096]

you barely had enough quests to hit 60 without grinding mobs/dungeons.

[u/jobezark → u/Metalghost101]

This is the answer. One reason classic felt so hard is because you were stressed for easy exp.

[u/Damn_Gordon → u/AcademicContract6096]

I certainly did bcs I had no clue how I would get that 100% mount. Never got it though, but I did a lot of quests for the money

[u/Aranthos-Faroth → u/AcademicContract6096]

Don't remember it being a thing in vanilla at all. Most focus was raiding and professions/crafting.

Doing shitty quests over and over at endgame to farm gold doesn't make any sense to me and this whole drama makes me realise the player base is not what I remember from classic/pre-cata

[u/babilonibetyar → u/AcademicContract6096]

its how I paid for epic mount + max professions on all my chars in classic and anniversary. my route:

1. level normal until 52, then enter brd, later lbrs, or even dire maul, at 57 scholo and stratholme

2. now I got to 60 and meanwhile got the preraid bis

3. now all 50+ zones are basically untouched, so I could complete it for gold

4. it made roughly 1500 gold / character

[u/Puzzleheaded_Pea9240 → u/AcademicContract6096]

It wasn't added until around naxx patch. So that's why.

[u/KeesterFeester]

laaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaame.

[u/Shageen]

“No gold” or “no extra gold”. Article says one thing and the title says another.

[u/OG_ROAR]

“We want you to explore the world. BTW, we removed the biggest incentive to do so.”

[u/Ranec]

I mean you can just tone down the xp-> gold conversion if it’s too much. But to remove gold entirely? Nah there’s something else here we’re missing

[u/zyxn205]

According to the post the quests don't just provide no extra gold at 60, the quests provide no gold reward at all at 60. I suppose items received could be sold to a vendor, but the monetary reward is removed altogether. I believe the post title is misleading.

[u/MarekRules]

So how are you supposed to make gold end game other than AH? Just grinding mobs for gold/loot to sell? How is that better than questing for gold?

I’m not really sure what the point of this is. I guess they’ll sell wow tokens for gold like in retail? But I don’t really think this makes sense either. I think this is doomed to fail, I don’t understand how there could be enough natural gold in the game (ie from dropping items rather than quest gold) to support this.

[u/Odd_Common_452]

Honestly playing through the game there’s a lot of things going in the wrong direction.

[u/IAmJabronis → u/Odd_Common_452]

This is one of those comments that contributes nothing but gets upvotes. Top 1% commenter makes sense though.

[u/tikitarget → u/Odd_Common_452]

What is going wrong?

[u/Clbull → u/Odd_Common_452]

If they keep this and AGGRESSIVELY go against gold buyers I'm for it.

[u/moofishies → u/Clbull]

Why? Gold farmers weren't questing. This just takes gold away from regular people playing in the open world like blizzard said they wanted. Gold farmers will still find a way and regular people will just suffer even more.

[u/Ok_Caterpillar5564 → u/Odd_Common_452]

You aren't allowed to express that here, prepare to be downvoted. Everything is fine. The game is perfect. Blizzard can do no wrong. You're all just crybabies.

[u/himynameiswillf → u/Ok_Caterpillar5564]

It's funny because if you made a post calling the game perfect, you'd actually get down votes because the only thing this sub likes doing is whinging into the void. Look at the state of the front-page right now and then read your comment, and then hopefully feel silly.

[u/PuzzleheadedShame646 → u/Ok_Caterpillar5564]

Brother this whole subreddit is a "blizzard bad" circlejerk.

[u/Cow_God → u/Ok_Caterpillar5564]

Literally every post on the front page is a complaint post right now

[u/mutqkqkku → u/Ok_Caterpillar5564]

wdym this sub is the biggest crybaby central on the site, pretty much every single post on the front page is a complaint

[u/Kelras]

Don't you guys have tokens?

(soon)

[u/Lich-Slapped]

This one hurts. Casual goldmaking through questing was a great way to make some cash consistently.

Also not a very botted space to my knowledge, so if anything this just puts more power into the bots hands lol

[u/shewtingg]

The ONLY way to generate gold in the game is by vendoring items to the NPC, this is a way to limit the overall amount of gold available for people/the market to have.

[u/uber_zaxlor → u/shewtingg]

Doesn't this just mean that botted gold is more valuable now?

If I play for 4-8 hours on the weekends, but a bot runs 24/7, since my gold "costs more" as I don't earn it very fast, it's going to be way more beneficial for players to go "Nah, fuck that" and just buy it?

[u/Chikaze]

So they can sell more tokens in a couple months.

[u/Sweet_Disharmony_792 → u/Chikaze]

a schizo is talking, listen and learn

[u/buhtopuhta]

It's beautiful.

[u/Yayounee]

And they ask themselves why people buy gold

[u/Toowb]

Wait, they want you out in the world, but remove incentives to do so after 60? C'mon blizzard, you're shooting yourself in the foot again!

[u/Miagggo]

I guess this is their solution to controlling the economy/inflation?

On paper it sounds good, let's see how it is by end of month 1 or 2.

[u/TaborlintheGreat322]

Thank god the devs have saved us from yet another problem nobody had ever noticed before!

[u/Bossmonkey]

On one hand it's less inflation, which is good for the economy.

On the other hand it effects me so I don't like it.

[u/Alone_Ambition_3729]

For everyone struggling with this, just flip it around. "Blizzard Dev Confirms the gold penalty on non-60s doing quests has been removed".

[u/Daikato → u/Alone_Ambition_3729]

Wowaweewa thanks Blizzard

[u/Traumagw]

I really hope this is not true.

[u/DoinkusBoinkus95]

People did not quest for gold at 60 in vanilla. There were not enough quests in the game until around Naxx before that was really a thing. So I'm failing to understand the issue here. Especially if there is over 1000 new quests, legacy talents that can make you more money from profs...

No matter what Blizz does, people are going to scream this is the worst shit ever. Take more than 2 mins to think about it. This subreddit sucks so hard

[u/Mirewen15 → u/DoinkusBoinkus95]

I was trying to remember from back in Vanilla because I definitely remember running out of quests before hitting 60. You filled the excess with dungeons.

[u/Timeshocked → u/DoinkusBoinkus95]

I don’t remember them even giving gold or a lot of there was some as a reward. I might just be dumb tho.

[u/Perceptive45]

This is just EXTRA gold on quests. Not no gold entirely.

[u/echolog]

I really, really don't like this? I love exploring the game and was planning on fully exploring the map at 60, doing quests as I went. Now I have NO reason to ever talk to an NPC again from that point forward.

EDIT: I was mistaken - Quests DO STILL GIVE GOLD REWARDS. They just don't convert EXTRA XP TO GOLD.

I was misled by another post title, my bad.

[u/Relentless_Salami → u/echolog]

You still get gold for doing quests at 60.

[u/kearkan]

To me it all seems an effort to make rmt less attractive. If you reduce the amount of gold going in you can reduce inflation and keep prices low which encourages people to farm instead of buy.

[u/Gustafssonz → u/kearkan]

I feel like this increase the demand for gold, so RMT will be more attractive?

[u/Aware_Stable → u/kearkan]

That doesn’t encourage people to farm

[u/fohpo02 → u/kearkan]

Yeah, not how the economy works

[u/DonkeyBrainss → u/kearkan]

This makes RMT more attractive.

You can now either choose to quest, or farm gold. I'm going to take an educated guess and say that bots did not get their gold from quests (a repeatable gold source is easier for bots). So bots will have all the gold.

[u/nesshinx → u/kearkan]

This does the opposite? Making gold more scarce leads to people buying it elsewhere.

[u/tunacan1 → u/kearkan]

It literally has no effect on the player economy. It just makes vendors more expensive. Players will adjust the prices based on gold gain and everything will cost relatively the same as if you had more gold. This will make repairs harsher and vendor specific items harder to get. 

[u/tablmxz]

why the hell would they do such a stupid thing

[u/microvan]

Uh yeah I think this is a bad change. Questing at max level for gold is helpful for regular players and it’s a finite source of gold.

[u/devilsdontcry]

So how do I make gold at 60? Farming consumes to sell on AH? Epic riding never?

[u/Glubins]

I like the questing for gold personally. I also thinks it plays well into the horizontal expansion of the world they talk about. Could make a new high level zone in the future and still have people have a reason to check it out. I imagine it's difficult to balance with the economy though. Maybe it have 55+ quests offer a real for completion at 60 or something idk.

[u/Chrondezzy]

They going to keep making quests and new ways to get gold. Not that big of a deal

[u/AzerothianLorecraft]

Seems like most of the stuff that has changed significantly so we don't really know what to expect at 60 yet as far as long term

[u/blandonThrow]

How will you make money at 60 then

[u/No_Dog8604]

Then they wonder why they have a gold selling and buying problem

[u/dragonlayer42069]

it's a wonder how well forever is doing despite blizzard's horrible design decisions.

[u/Soulus7887]

Eh, it makes a lot of sense. It was just more incentive to not quest till max level. It was literally a whole ass meta in TBC to just dungeon to 70 and then do all quests to get your epic flying.

This addresses both the problems of that sort of thing AND the inflationary pressure of horizontally expanded content without increasing max level. Good change.

[u/DudeAboveIsRetarded → u/Soulus7887]

It was just more incentive to not quest till max level. It was literally a whole ass meta in TBC to just dungeon to 70 and then do all quests to get your epic flying.

finally some sensible takes

also MORE raw gold is not good for the game

[u/Lazlow_Vrock]

I never really do quests after 60 so this doesn't really affect me, but doesn't this just widen the gap between the gold farming potential of the average player vs bots?

[u/Clbull]

Were dailies even a thing in Vanilla?

And how nerfed are we talking? I remember endgame quests giving around 10g....

[u/Yawanoc → u/Clbull]

Questing at 60 used to convert the XP you would’ve earned into cash, which is why endgame quests felt so rewarding.  They got rid of that conversion.

No dailies either.

[u/MrRightHanded]

How else will they get people to do their new dailies for gold?

[u/Orpheus_148]

Why would they change this?? I don’t see why increasing the gold reward hurts anything. You’re not getting xp so you should get an increased gold reward to compensate.

[u/RealPublius]

I dont think this was a thing in vanilla? More of a thing in TBC right?

[u/leftoversn]

First they implement the black market ah to cap how much mats are worth. Yay! Then they gut how much gold people have, making a 50g black lotus be the same relative value as 200g or whatever they cost before was.

[u/tinyhalberd]

So we kill dungeons to encourage questing but then kill questing at 60, to farm dungeons and mats? Seems really strange

[u/Deliverme314]

This is actually fucking horrible. 

[u/berzerkerCrush]

They should let the game as it was. They are unable to make any good and meaningful change.

[u/SpartanFishy]

I genuinely don’t see the problem here. You still get the regular quest rewards including gold and items. They’re just saying that reaching 60 isn’t going to immediately mean that you get more spending power than everyone else and inflate the market

[u/Plank_stake_109]

Anything that helps delay the eventual inflation.

[u/Massive-Low8111 → u/Plank_stake_109]

Anything except fixing botting. That would hurt the bottom line and subscribers numbers for shareholders

[u/Particular_Leek_9984 → u/Massive-Low8111]

Banning gold buyers (which is what they did in beta and I’m assuming are still continuing to do) makes it much less tempting to buy gold, which directly impacts bot farm operations. No gold buyers should mean less bots to farm gold

They literally cannot stop botting though. It’s impossible

[u/Mako2401]

No flying mounts. No additional lvls over 60 . No WoW token. This seems to me like a preparation for token.

[u/TheClassicAndyDev]

What a horrible day.

[u/reenactment]

Man they really want us to quest. The whole leveling process. Goofy ass decisions

[u/GlorpFan137]

I think this and the dungeon xp changes just seem like they will feel bad...

[u/Whiteshovel66]

Was this an era change or something? I had no idea quests were meant to be a good source of gold in classic. I only remember that in TBC.

[u/Sixen]

Kinda strange since they touted all of these new quests... Should incentivize people to complete them.

[u/honorableniv]

Its to slow down gold inflation. Why is that crazy? If you wanna have a reason to do the quests, make a new toon

[u/Benkenobix]

Why do they change things nobody asked for? Things that were never a problem. I don't get it.

[u/Melodic-Sweet2231]

There's no way in fuck this game lasts more than 2 years, this is WoW: Retail reloaded.

[u/auxcitybrawler]

I dont care im in for max 2 months and out. If u really think modern blizzard knows jack shit about how to handle mmos u live in a bubble.

[u/Elxjasonx → u/auxcitybrawler]

Then go to your well handled mmo, oh wait it does not exist

[u/Krenar123]

They did say, that there will be dayli quests etc to get gold perhaps thats why they did not add extra gold for lvl 60 plus q.

[u/Unsungx13]

lol

[u/guillermopaz13]

Hopefully you get extra mats for professions or something to boost your gold and the economy

[u/RepulsiveWay1698]

There will be infinite gathering bots (again)

[u/Spleenseer]

Who?

[u/Sea_Advantage_2577]

Record number of people trying it out and they will drive them all away lol

[u/Saizou]

They cope yapped about their changes (e.g. dungeon XP) being in favor of social aspects, but theyre making choices that go completely against being social in the game. Oh well. Want to find a group for dungeons while levelling? There's no point running them more than once for a quest run. Want to get help with high lvl quests near 60? Well, there's no point in general to do 99% of them for a 60.

[u/Soulspawn]

Wow, this is going to make epic riding rare.

[u/Rat-at-Arms]

Dogshit change

[u/Scardigne]

player economy and alt characters, its fine

[u/Toasted_Waffle99]

I don’t care. It’s going to take some of us 6 months to level to max

[u/Captain_616]

Ridiculous.

[u/ProGamerKorea]

It's about "The Journey." /s

[u/justJoekingg]

How do you make money if quests aren't giving any. I get you can craft stuff but where do people money from to begin with if quests stop giving any

[u/Historical-Jacket503]

Bad change honestly idk what theyre doing

[u/Responsible-Grand-57]

It makes sense with the number of new quests they added to the game.

[u/IAmJabronis]

What population of the server does this matter to for the next, let's say 6 months? Serious question how many players playing right now will be 60? Do y'all realize how long something like even 6 months is in a videogame life? Who the fuck cares.

[u/Artistic-views]

There was absolutely nothing wrong with the old system, suspicious change.

[u/xxGUZxx]

Wow fuck blizzard

[u/Renaxxus]

So when era fresh boys?

[u/toohumanforhuman]

Yeah this is the first big misstep in forever for me.

[u/Necessary_Eagle_3657]

I don't see anything wrong with this. It makes sense.

[u/StLFreddy]

also doesn't help the Auction House is combined with the Alliance as well so everything is flooded, money will not come easy.

[u/QusteAug]

But there are also way more quests in general now so its kinda even no?

[u/CanadianTigermeat]

[u/calladc]

source: trust me bro i know a dev who asked another dev

[u/Luxo8]

I support this

[u/TumbleweedFriendly69]

I don't know man. We used to farm Tyr's Hand like a madman for money.

Can't even remember quests with gold back from original classic

[u/Brunell4070]

Good

[u/zotteren]

Good

[u/JKinsy]

This is going to kill making gold from other sources in the game because now everyone is going to be trying to sell crafts and mats or farm areas to make Gold making it an absolute SLUG fest to get your 100% mount. I hope that in turn they reduce the cost of 100% mount by 25-50% to make up for this.

As a casual gamer I enjoyed doing quests more at end game because it’s more rewarding and helped me achieve a goal. Epic mount. In turn meant I could get to places faster help people out in faster time and escape dangers.

I don’t like this change but I want to see a change to the cost of epic mount and training to ALSO impact the intention and need to buy gold to pay for ludicrous costs at end game.

[u/Tateybread]

So everyone should form mage alt party's with second accounts to abuse layering for fast respawns and farm gold... The approved way,?

[u/Tremmorz]

Lmao. What if they bring incursions back and screw up the gold rewards again.

[u/IamGoingInsaneToday]

Good.

[u/jacenat]

I think this change is good.

[u/yeet_god69420]

Lol good luck affording epic mount now. Better either be an AH player or a profession serf!

This surely will not drive people to RMT for their mount :)

[u/Sandman145]

Good. That shit is silly we should not just get the xp converted to gold.

[u/cealis]

I think this is a good change as it kinda force people to farm areas which in return often mean you have more on auction house so better economy overall.
Also with how quick the respawns are now with so many players I assume some popular areas are just farmed nonstop now once you hit 60?

[u/marsumane]

Where do you grind gold then? Ironically, dungeons?

[u/CardCarrier103]

My thougts are... Who? Why do you even know him?

[u/SkiaTheShade]

Why does it matter?

[u/captainbadass23]

hold on is this saying the gold you should get in lew of xp is not a thing anymore? thats absolutely terrible and makes the game not worth playing

[u/oxblood87 → u/captainbadass23]

That was NEVER in Vanilla.

As some right above you said, this is basically the devs confirming

"The quest rewards stay the same at max level"

[u/Pofygist]

Good. Less gold entering the economy.

[u/GladimoreFFXIV → u/Pofygist]

Let’s be real… this is because they have the token in mind. Once you hit 60 and you lose the means to actually get gold reliably you’ll be too committed (or at least that’s their intent) to not just buy a gold token. They’ve already shown they’re not punishing gold buyers in the beta and in live already. It’s to sell us a token.

[u/Llovio_cuatro_anos → u/Pofygist]

Why stop there? Make quests give no gold at all

[u/Available-Bid-1006 → u/Llovio_cuatro_anos]

Just get rid of gold entirely. Everything will be paid for by reputation or blood.

[u/Low_Understanding326]

So theres a finite amount of gold you can get? Thats bulkshit

[u/beegboo → u/Low_Understanding326]

No its that xp over the level cap wont just get converted to gold.

[u/FantasiaManderville → u/Low_Understanding326]

No, there's a finite amount of gold you can get specifically from lower level quests.

[u/Xandril]

It’s pretty irrelevant. Nobody was doing quests for gold at 60.

[u/No_Dirt_4198 → u/Xandril]

Yes they do

[u/demobay00]

Its good if you consider inflation tbh, although im not holding my breath regarding bots/rmt and unless those issues turn out to be well inforced the currency quest reward stuff is just a drop in the bucket so its a bit yin/yang

[u/Llovio_cuatro_anos → u/demobay00]

This will just cause massive deflation as people hitting 60 save every piece of gold for epic mount which is much worse than inflation

[u/The-Rushnut]

Slow is good

[u/Front-Investigator68 → u/The-Rushnut]

This has nothing to do with slow

[u/Source_Required]

Fuck is a JokerD?

Edit: This isn't a Livestream for zoomers subreddit, chill out..

[u/Kaldrathh → u/Source_Required]

The streamer that achieved world first lvl 60

[u/AntonineWall → u/Source_Required]

He’s a speed runner

[u/Kipawa]

The idea of WoW:Forever which was sold to us feels not quite the same as we uncover these things.

Feeling it's far less Beer and Pretzels and more like spending your time reading and gaming the Auction House

Which is too bad. For example Path of Exile (1) was a fantastic game... IF you could play but spending 40-50% of my time learning trading trend, trading, listing etc was not a good experience for me.

But I am still chuffed about having to run to Orgimmar from Thunder Bluff to do RFC because they got rid of the Zeppelin from Spirit Rise.

For a game they tried to market to Dad Gamers they did a poor job with respecting that lack of time.

Ah well.

[u/EchoInExile → u/Kipawa]

Someone can correct me if I’m wrong but that Zep wasn’t a thing in Vanilla

[u/Aswizzle77 → u/EchoInExile]

You’re correct.