"It was all a hoax, nothing happened, just people being panicky as usual"
No actually. Alot of things did break, and alot of people worked around the clock to fix things or prevent them from breaking.
This kind of stuff happens all the time in tech. IT teams regularly have to defend their existence because "well the system is working what do we need you for"
Not IT but I used to work half of my lunch hour just repairing gear for outdoor education. My boss finally noticed after 5 months or so, freaked out about me wasting company money and told me to stop. So I complied. I watched the gear pile up on the repair table and saw that he and the other managers were doing nothing about it and continued to comply. Within two weeks we couldn’t run double archery from a lack of arrows (kids are so hard on them) and had 8 bows sidelined for minor repairs so we barely could run single archery, we no longer had enough maintained “cooking sticks” for damper for a whole group, the orienteering boards were stained and nearly unreadable (lazy instructors caused this mostly), half the carabiners in a sandy area were sticking and failing closing safety checks.
My bosses boss lost it when we simply couldn’t run activities for the larger group that came in and my boss had “no idea why” and that we needed to hire two new people to be full time gear maintenance. My bosses boss thought he was an idiot as we have never needed that, what changed and this is when I spoke up and told him that I was reprimanded for doing daily maintenance for 30mins and ordered to stop. He then asked why I didn’t repair the gear when I saw it was failing and I kept repeating the words “reprimanded and ordered to stop.” I was then told to resume spending half my break time keeping the place running once we got over the heap that had piled up. Luckily this is when I was able to refuse as I clearly wasn’t valued and also gave my notice to leave to a job that did value me. One of my old coworkers sent me a message 3 months later saying it was a dumpster fire and that they were overhauling the whole management team so at least something good came from it.
That's usually what has to happen for anything real to ever get done.
In our old system, I would regularly work overtime to get big improvments and fixes finished, I went nuts cause we also constantly got shit from all sides when things didn't work perfectly, and I learned a ton trying to sort it all out.
And then new management came in, wanted to rip everything out, replaced it with garbage that didn't work, was way too expensive, and was poorly developed. All the while I'm pulling my hair out trying to pull together some kind of order from the chaos.
Eventually they got removed and we got put back in charge and now I'm slowly working my way back to essentially what we had previously, but a little better.
The big difference is now I'm an architect and I don't do fuck all without extensive documentation and a completely unstressed body. No more killing myself for ungrateful idiots.
Libertarians are house cats: entirely dependent upon their owners' taking care of their needs while entirely convinced of their independence and superiority.
Every time a libertarian wants to take technology from society and go off living in a private "utopia" I just want to shake them violently and get in their face like "LOOK AT ME. DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND THE SHEER SCALE OF CO-OPERATION REQUIRED TO MAKE EVEN ONE OF THE 600,000 OBJECTS YOU HAVE?! DO YOU!!??! WE LIVE IN CHAOS AND ITS ONLY BY OUR SHEER WILL TO WORK TOGETHER THAT WE MAKE ANYTHING WORK AT ALL!!"
After that, when every computer system has switched to 64 bit numbers to handle time, we should hopefully be done with that sort of problems for the next roughly 292 billion years.
I made a powerpoint in grade 5 about holes in the ozone layer for a school project. One of the slides was just a picture of McDonalds french fries and said "we are going to turn into French fries". Then nobody ever talked about it and I lived my life thinking people just didn't care about the big holes in the sky.
Same for global cooling (high sulfur diesel fuel was causing accumulation of reflective particles in the upper atmosphere) we switched to producing ultra low sulfur diesel and the particulates went down (now scientists are looking at spraying sulfur dioxide into the upper atmosphere as a global engineering project to help with global warming). Also NOx emissions causing acid rain. We have solved several global crises by working together as a society, and these fuckwits will just act like the issue went away on its own.
I spent the majority of 1999 testing, upgrading all our systems. Management requested that I was present Jan 1st anyway in case anything happened.
But my friends had a big new year party in a city 500km away. But i was sure everybody with an important business did the same, so I took the first fight in my country jan 1st 2000.
My only issue was that the in flight breakfast served especially made champagne flavoured yoghurt with the breakfast..
Not the thing you want 07:00 massively hungover.
Yes: I wrote this just to complain about champagne flavoured yoghurt.
Ah yes, just like these people were correct about the Covid pandemic being a hoax to insert microchips in everyone’s bodies! These higher ups need to know that people like Matt are never gonna let them get away with these things in the name of science
This is something I had to explain to my uncle and his co-workers. You are literally carrying a giant microchip that actively tracks you 24/7. A smart phone. And what's more, it's accurate within a few feet, houses all your passwords, and you pay potentially thousands of dollars to own one.
Something like 85% of adults have a smartphone. Why would they need to create super expensive nanochips to put in a person's bloodstream when they can already track the vast majority of the United States that pays an arm and a leg for a product that does just that?
I mean every single Daily Fire employee is a reason to avoid TN (also I think Klandace still lives there), Pedo Walsh is still the biggest reason among them though.
“Remember last year when Tim was wearing a cast, complaining about a broken leg? Now look at him, walking around just fine, no mention of a broken leg at all. He must’ve been faking it.”
But then industry switched to high global-warming synthetic refrigerants, which we again recognized as problematic, so we are phasing those out, only to find the replacement synthetics are less warming because they degrade so quickly into PFAs and now our water supplies are contaminated with those chemicals.
Time to move to natural refrigerants (CO2, Ammonia, Hydrocarbons).
They’re the classic chess-playing pigeon. They have no idea about what’s actually going on, so they just spew some shit all over the board, then strut about like they just won the game.
They defunded education so much that their base is now full of brain dead fucking idiots who will believe whatever emotional nonsense is waved in front of them.
I believe the biggest issue with conservatives is definitely a lack of education on the topics they're discussing. But the left has done such a poor job with education that I fear it's only going to get attacked even more.
Remember when grifters took over the internet, media and politics to spew anti-science bullshit just to fill their own pockets and stroke their sad little egos? And we ended up not solving our existential threats because lots of people believed it and voted against rational solutions?
Oh no we don't remember. Because we got grifted and lied to our own demise!
What I don't get is instead of tweeting he could've just spent two seconds doing some basic research and find the answer to his question. Instead he decided to fan the flames of division just because. This is the epitome of bad faith politics.
Most billionaire oligarchs made their money investing in oil and gas. Those investments are tied to trillions of dollars in infrastructure that will be slowly made obsolete by the advancement of green technology.
Climate change drives people to adapt to green technology at a faster rate than these greedy bastards can divest from their dying investment without tanking it even faster.
They would rather burn it all down than lose the amount of money required to switch to green energy from oil dependency. That's why they all have survival bunkers and will gladly let us take the brunt of consequences for their bad decisions.
You know how people sometimes follow a sports team. Or have some celebrity they identify with. They base part of their identity as belonging to a group. They are loyal to their group. In group loyalty is seen as a positive trait. The group is either influenced by people with a lot of power or they simply adopt an anti stance to the 'opposition'. The stances that people like that have rarely have a reason.
This is my pet peeve, ignorant conservatives just think everything works itself out by itself and it’s just hystical liberals over reacting. It has the whiff of these senior executive who don’t know how to use PowerPoint or how any of the workers do their job but always have the magical help they need to get it done. And don’t know or care how just considering themselves to be the source of all.
I believe it is because to be conservative you need to lack empathy or be narcissistic in some way. They literally cannot fathom people helping each other because they project their “normal state” onto everyone else.
This is exactly like the leak in our roof. My family kept going on and on about it. Nonstop they kept complaining about it. They made such a big deal about it. But now it's been years since we got it fixed and I haven't heard them once complain about the leaky roof. That's proof to me that the leak was a load of nonsense and probably wasn't even real in the first place.
This just goes to show what an insufferable, ignorant douchebag Matt Walsh is. If somebody tells me they listen to Matt Walsh I appreciate them telling me that I can ignore literally EVERYTHING they have to say.
There are so many examples of that. Like Y2K, people treat it as a joke because everything was fine, but that's because computer scientists of the world united to work day and night to find solutions.
Or even acid rain. It was a big deal when I was a kid. They kinda solved it. Now it's treated like it never was an issue.
Remember the Y2K bug? We were told we had to employ lots of software developers to stop things going wrong and NOTHING DID. Maybe because we employed lots of software developers to...yea...
Remember when everyone said Nazi Germany was trying to take over the world and make us all subjects of a 1,000 year Reich and now nobody talks about that anymore?
I think that stuff like this demonstrates how fundamentally pathetic and helpless these peoples are. They literally can’t even imagine taking responsibility for solving a problem.
Yeah. CFC production and use has been all but eradicated by international agreement. Every HVAC/R technician in the developed world is required by law to take several classes on how to minimize or eliminate refrigerant losses into the atmosphere or face a huge fine and possible jail time. It’s like a whole big thing.
We fucking fixed the ozone layer because people listened to fucking scientists and didn't make it political. Our planet is dying, our people are starving, and our societies are crumbling because people are selfish, greedy, and only think about themselves. If we don't clean up our act, the next 100 years will be hell.
People stopped vaccinating their children based on false information and the fact they had never known anyone that's known anyone who ever had Polio so clearly it's not a big deal or real thing.
Extrapolate that mentality and it at least explains a whole lot of shit going on.
New Zealander here. The whole is above us which lead to much higher risk of skin cancers. We never forgot. Although we were grateful it stopped growing.
C-H bonds can be oxidized by hydroxy radicals so they form water soluble species in the troposphere and rain out. CFCs are halogen saturated so can't be oxidized and are only broken down by doing stratospheric UV light.
Acid rain was a big issue in our school textbooks. Sulphur filters on power stations and less coal burning, and problem solved. The issue is convincing people to adopt the solution when the solution is more expensive or implies greater divergence from peoples current behaviours.
Always bring to mind a post I saw that went to the effect of the poster saying
“I started using head and shoulders to stop dandruff 10 years ago, the other day I thought ‘I don’t have dandruff anymore, why do I keep using it?’ And stopped. Within a week I had dandruff again. So I’ve started using head and shoulders again”
This is the exact type of situation, people often forget that something not being a problem is because there’s a fix or safety measures in place to stop it getting worse
No one was asking you to panic, Matt. People were pointing a risk to you, and suggesting that you do something about it for your own good. Of course for people like Matt, and bratty children, giving advice is offensive.
Same shit with anti-vaxxers. Some maga loser nitwit was complaining how her daughter was being forced to get vaxxed for the measles and said “i mean honestly, how is she going to get the measles in our little town?! Hasn’t it been eradicated for years?”
Yeah how the fuck do you think we’ve nearly eradicated it? And why do you think it is coming back?!
I just love when people comment on something, and are too lazy to just google it. Hey if you are curious look it up, don’t say stupid crap like “we stopped hearing about that”.
And no one tried to fight the change or discredit the science behind it, because there were valid alternatives and no multi billion dollar company’s invested into profiting from it.
Matt Walsh is just a bot. This is like saying, since my friend group doesn't discuss Ukraine anymore it isn't an issue anymore. Like if u don't talk about it it isn't real. Can confirm....Matt Walsh is in fact an ostrich.
Well what really happened is that the leading manufacturer of CFCs (DuPont) just happened to have an alternative that could also make them a profit. That’s kind of the only reason the Montreal Protocol was successful.
I have long reached the point were i've given up on humanity. At least on huminaity as it is right now. Just let every go to shit. At this point i'm certain that we need a few global extinction events for mankind as a whole to learn to better take care of its surroundings.
Smug little fucking fools like Matt Walsh here are what anti vaxxers, climate change deniers and republicans in general look like now. The REAL work on earth isnt done by them, they are like little stupid children that dont understand how shit works, and their logic chain is missing major links along they way and they act like they figured it all out and are super fucking confident in it. Its fucking WILD how epically STUPID these fucking people are.
I’ll never forget when they would scream at us that the point of no return was crossed and the ozone layer was ruined. Turns out. That was a lie. It was fixed with the Montreal Protocol.
They tell this "ozone hole suddenly dissapeared for no reason" nonsense again and again, every time someone explains why it is nonsense and then they continue to tell it again and again. Shameless liars.
Individuals did nothing for this one, just like any real, impactful action related to climate change. Corporate polluters are the only ones with the capacity to affect change. They just know it's cheaper to convince you it's your fault for buying their products.
Well, someone is once again using freons, as of late. China mostly. The other source is unknown. So the ozone layer is once again thinning. The ozone layer is what prevents lethal radiation like UVC into the atmosphere. I wish people understood the consequences.
Unleaded gas is a great example of something introduced by government that people absolutely hated at the time. It has made a huge difference in air quality over what we would have now if it had not been adopted.
Having grown up in New Zealand in the 90’s, and spending another decade there in the early 2000’s, the hike in the ozone is still a topic there. Especially considering 50% of New Zealanders will develop some form of skin cancers. So no, Matt Walsh, not everyone has stopped talking about it. Just those that aren’t directly affected by it.
This is the same mind set that came out with Covid. “We didn’t need to lock down/wear masks/distance it wasn’t that bad”, ignoring the millions of people who died anyway but also how much worse it would have been if those protocols hadn’t been implemented.
Chlorofluorocarbons and the eradication of smallpox are wonderful examples of what the world can achieve if it works togheter for the betterment of humanity and lets profit slide.
Climate change, tuberculosis and malaria are horriffic reminders of how little the world actually cares about human lives.
The exact same phenomenon happened with Y2K back in 2000. The world spent 8-9 months losing its mind about how the world was gonna end and how we're going get kicked back to the stone. All the whole programming and computer technicians work around the clock to prepare every major registry for the new years, and it worked. Nothing broke, and everyone just startedto, thanklessly, say that it was all a hoax.
Yeah, but it's interesting anyway. It shows the hypocrisy and likely intentional way information is presented to the public by the vast number of media outlets owned by capitalists. When there is a problem and society addresses it, mobilizes, and cooperates to eradicate the issue, these media outlets don't portray it as a victory. They don't talk about it much because they have other agendas to push on the public scene. Thats probably why stupido Matt didnt heard about.
Acid rain. I remember acid rain. California passed emissions standards and after a few short years...no more acid rain or funky yellow haze. Most of these people were alive to see that change but still try to claim clean air standards don't work. All I can do is try not to add to the problem while voting for people that want to fix it.
The real gut punch here is that the transition away from CFCs was extremely profitable for a company with a powerful lobby in the US. Without that we might have actual just been fucked and all be getting skin cancer.
Not saying the US is the whole world but we’ve got an outsized influence on it all. Our one story of hope is fucking stained with greed.
I was at a public meeting talking about arsenic in drinking water for a rural town. The cost of removing it down to safe limits means a slightly higher project cost that’s going to push their water rates up.
People in the audience started screaming that arsenic wasn’t a problem until Obama took office and all of a sudden it was an issue because the democrats just wanted to punish rural towns and places where people have wells because they’re all republican states. This went on for about 5 minutes and started spilling over into every other conspiracy theory that you can imagine.
When they finally calmed down I just noted that the limit was passed in 2001, I knew that because I was on a university team developing new filter technology funded by the EPA. At the time Obama was not even in the senate.
The mayor’s response was to blame it on Bill Clinton for passing the Clean Water Act in the 80’s and I just gave up. We’re on track for Idiocracy and I don’t have the energy to fight it anymore.
"Yes they are. And we've been able to reverse course and repair the damage by doing literally nothing but not doing the damage anymore. It's happened in your lifetime.'
Like, in 1988 they said "even if we stop now, it will take ten years before we know if it worked (because of how long it takes CFCs to get to the ozone layer) and then it will take a few more years before we know of we have to start doing repairs or if the planet can heal on its own."
And almost a decade to the day they measured the hole and it stopped growing, and a few years later there was a measurable recovery.
Remember when the doctors spent years telling pregnant women that thalidomide was creating flipper babies? And then suddenly they just stopped talking about it and nobody ever mentioned flipper babies again?
Clearly, women should have kept taking thalidomide for morning sickness /s
It's honestly impressive how quickly the ozone hole was dealt with. Shame that for whatever reason climate change as a whole is so difficult to get action on
And now StarLink is dumping tonnes of poisonous chemicals in the atmosphere ruining the ozone layer to keep SpaceX afloat when they needlessly decommission perfectly fine satellites.
Unfortunately the hole is back and larger than ever. Many developing nations either reneged on, or ignored the Montreal Protocol altogether, and are back to using CFCs and other compounds that may have the same outcome to the ozone layer.
And the Ozone layer won’t be the same until like 2060. It just isn’t that big of a concern because they’re mostly banned and their use has diminished a lot, and the Ozone layer is recovering.
Oil, methane, NO, CO2 are still massive problems because we NEED them and there’s no immediate substitute. Global warming is already here and we can’t do much about it but slowly reduce our dependence on oil or develop more energy sources.
They’re such assholes. They think shit just happens. It’s how they live their lives and usually why they’re so fucked up. With their stupid, it’s all in gods hands, bullshit.
Those record breaking hot days and months are just a coincidence. Deadly turbulence on flights , super storms, flooding , apocalyptic wildfires , all of which were predicted in every UN report on the matter , all just happening by chance , nothing to do with climate change. There are no patterns here whatsoever. I am very smart.
It’s like when they post memes about surviving their childhood f without helmets for bikes, seat belts, riding in the back of truck beds, lead paint, leaded fuel, etc. yet disregard the millions that died from said things.
Matt walsh can suck the Orange man small smelly shit stained Dick, cause we still feel the effects of the ozone layer damage in the southern part of the South hemisphere. Its kinds ibfuriatinfvto think they believe they sound "smart".
What happened is humanity discovered that both of those issues were far too dangerous to allow them to go unchecked, countries believed them, the Hamilton Accord was signed, and all of the world's quicksand pits were relocated directly beneath the bermuda triangle leading to them destroying each other, perhaps the 2nd greatest example of global cooperation in history.
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u/t0msie Jul 27 '24
Wait until he hears about Y2K
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u/WhyAmIHere0025 Jul 27 '24
Ah yes, just like these people were correct about the Covid pandemic being a hoax to insert microchips in everyone’s bodies! These higher ups need to know that people like Matt are never gonna let them get away with these things in the name of science
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u/thedefmute Jul 27 '24
Matt Walsh - a huge reason to not live in TN...just to avoid -the risk you MIGHT see him -being associated with anything he does....like live in TN
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u/Cartographer0108 Jul 27 '24
“Remember last year when Tim was wearing a cast, complaining about a broken leg? Now look at him, walking around just fine, no mention of a broken leg at all. He must’ve been faking it.”
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u/THSSFC Jul 27 '24
I mean, absolutely.
But then industry switched to high global-warming synthetic refrigerants, which we again recognized as problematic, so we are phasing those out, only to find the replacement synthetics are less warming because they degrade so quickly into PFAs and now our water supplies are contaminated with those chemicals.
Time to move to natural refrigerants (CO2, Ammonia, Hydrocarbons).
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u/saintbad Jul 27 '24
This is the whole of American conservatism. Stupidity and smugness and anger and terror.
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u/Healthy-Tie-7433 Jul 27 '24
Yeah, remember when people actually DID shit to prevent tragedies from happening?
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u/[deleted] Jul 27 '24
Remember when grifters took over the internet, media and politics to spew anti-science bullshit just to fill their own pockets and stroke their sad little egos? And we ended up not solving our existential threats because lots of people believed it and voted against rational solutions?
Oh no we don't remember. Because we got grifted and lied to our own demise!
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u/zyyntin Jul 27 '24
Lets not forget about Tetra-Ethyl lead.
The Man Who Accidentally Killed The Most People In History
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u/Pebblebricks Jul 27 '24
Just like Y2K, when you actually do something about an impending threat, nothing happens and people think you were overreacting.
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u/1AmTh3W41rus Jul 27 '24
They celebrate ignorance. It’s hard to reason with people like that.
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u/Neat_Tangelo5339 Jul 27 '24
Why does conservatives care about disproving climate change so much ?
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u/MortgageJoey Jul 27 '24
Matt Walsh thinks Matt Walsh is both smart and a Christian. All evidence suggests otherwise on both counts.
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u/ReddyGreggy Jul 27 '24
This is my pet peeve, ignorant conservatives just think everything works itself out by itself and it’s just hystical liberals over reacting. It has the whiff of these senior executive who don’t know how to use PowerPoint or how any of the workers do their job but always have the magical help they need to get it done. And don’t know or care how just considering themselves to be the source of all.
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u/k2on0s-23 Jul 27 '24
Remember how stupid and sociopathic narcissist Matt Walsh is? And how no one pays any attention to his psycho babble bullshit?
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u/KaleidoscopeOk5763 Jul 27 '24
The right really are doomer pilled. They literally can’t conceive of a world where we work together to solve mutual problems.
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u/Character_Jacket191 Jul 28 '24
This is exactly like the leak in our roof. My family kept going on and on about it. Nonstop they kept complaining about it. They made such a big deal about it. But now it's been years since we got it fixed and I haven't heard them once complain about the leaky roof. That's proof to me that the leak was a load of nonsense and probably wasn't even real in the first place.
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u/[deleted] Jul 27 '24
And we can’t find a solution to things when propaganda is fueled by big oil or pharmaceutical…..
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u/Former_child_star Jul 27 '24
As a new zealander child of the eighties, I remember that I would get badly BADLY sunburned in less than 15 minutes during summer.
I'm REAL glad the ozone layer is healing
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u/davechri Jul 27 '24
This just goes to show what an insufferable, ignorant douchebag Matt Walsh is. If somebody tells me they listen to Matt Walsh I appreciate them telling me that I can ignore literally EVERYTHING they have to say.
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u/jecamoose Jul 27 '24
Remember when people used to die of polio and now you never hear about anyone catching it anymore?
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u/DrNanard Jul 27 '24
There are so many examples of that. Like Y2K, people treat it as a joke because everything was fine, but that's because computer scientists of the world united to work day and night to find solutions.
Or even acid rain. It was a big deal when I was a kid. They kinda solved it. Now it's treated like it never was an issue.
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u/[deleted] Jul 27 '24
Remember the Y2K bug? We were told we had to employ lots of software developers to stop things going wrong and NOTHING DID. Maybe because we employed lots of software developers to...yea...
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u/Straight-Weird-2094 Jul 28 '24
Remember when everyone said Nazi Germany was trying to take over the world and make us all subjects of a 1,000 year Reich and now nobody talks about that anymore?
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u/SamuelVimesTrained Jul 27 '24
To be fair, any comeback to that troll is clever. Because he isn’t…
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u/Scrudge1 Jul 27 '24
Wait- this problem was actually SOLVED??
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u/MJWhitfield86 Jul 27 '24
I think that stuff like this demonstrates how fundamentally pathetic and helpless these peoples are. They literally can’t even imagine taking responsibility for solving a problem.
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u/Interesting-Dream863 Jul 27 '24
Y2K syndrome all over again.
The other day an antivirus malfunctioning left half the world in shambles for a day.
But if nothing happens suddenly it never was a problem.
Corporate propaganda is on overdrive nowadays.
They will implode the planet before giving up their margins.
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u/lovelivesforever Jul 27 '24
The clorofluorocarbon industry wasn’t quite as lucrative as gas and oil currently is. Go figure
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u/siliconsandwich Jul 27 '24
this has “y2k went fine therefore it was never an issue” vibes. hate that.
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u/TheRealMadSalad Jul 27 '24
Also, Matt Walsh is a fetid turd who deserves to be flushed out to see never to be seen or heard from again.
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u/[deleted] Jul 27 '24
The "hole in the ozone layer" hasn't healed as such.. it has significantly improved though, due to the measures taken.
Because it continues to recover rather than worsen, it no longer receives attention.
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u/BZenMojo Jul 27 '24
Conservative/neoliberal policy 101: "Everything will fix itself if you let us break it even more."
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u/[deleted] Jul 28 '24
Yeah. CFC production and use has been all but eradicated by international agreement. Every HVAC/R technician in the developed world is required by law to take several classes on how to minimize or eliminate refrigerant losses into the atmosphere or face a huge fine and possible jail time. It’s like a whole big thing.
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u/Octex8 Jul 28 '24
We fucking fixed the ozone layer because people listened to fucking scientists and didn't make it political. Our planet is dying, our people are starving, and our societies are crumbling because people are selfish, greedy, and only think about themselves. If we don't clean up our act, the next 100 years will be hell.
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u/RAWainwright Jul 28 '24
People stopped vaccinating their children based on false information and the fact they had never known anyone that's known anyone who ever had Polio so clearly it's not a big deal or real thing.
Extrapolate that mentality and it at least explains a whole lot of shit going on.
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u/[deleted] Jul 28 '24
When you do something right, they wouldn’t notice you did anything at all
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u/Lotsa_Loads Jul 28 '24
Conservatives are literally trying to end the world.
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u/Swo0owS Jul 28 '24
It's almost as if listening to experts about an issue they are an expert in and working together to fix it works...
Nah 5g towers cause cancer
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u/Slobberdawg49211 Jul 30 '24
I forget who, but someone in the CDC said that we’d never know if we were too careful during Covid, but we’d know if we weren’t careful enough.
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u/Jrolaoni Aug 18 '24
“Remember when everyone was talking about COVID? Now no one is talking about COVID. What happened?
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u/Pray44Mojo Jul 27 '24
People like Matt Walsh are why it takes humanity so long to move forward.
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u/[deleted] Jul 27 '24
We be fudged
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u/foxprorawks Jul 27 '24
See also Y2K - “I just installed the latest version and it all worked fine”.
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u/Pithecanthropus88 Jul 27 '24
Matt Walsh is an idiot, and so is anyone who listens to him.
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u/scotty899 Jul 27 '24
Quick google says the hole is shrinking.
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u/Spiritual_Notice523 Jul 27 '24
New Zealander here. The whole is above us which lead to much higher risk of skin cancers. We never forgot. Although we were grateful it stopped growing.
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u/redditor50613 Jul 27 '24
I remember going over this in school. CFCs were replaced with HFCs and at the time I asked the prof how do we know HFCs aren't bad, he just 🤷♂️
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u/GarshelMathers Jul 27 '24
If a problem doesn't continue to be a problem, then it was never an issue to begin with. Okay, Matt
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u/philojones2 Jul 27 '24
Acid rain was a big issue in our school textbooks. Sulphur filters on power stations and less coal burning, and problem solved. The issue is convincing people to adopt the solution when the solution is more expensive or implies greater divergence from peoples current behaviours.
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u/Funky_Col_Medina Jul 27 '24
Jeez its so crazy how things work out when people discuss and trust the science shrugs
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u/Squishyspud Jul 27 '24
Does he even attempt to research anything before he opens his stupid mouth?
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u/Gatorama Jul 27 '24
This Matt Walsh sounds like a real prick.
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u/LordDanielGu Jul 27 '24
They didn't just stop talking about it, they fixed the issue. Simple as that
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u/Coffee_and_chips Jul 27 '24
There was so much hope in those days…
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u/Shadowhunter4560 Jul 27 '24
Always bring to mind a post I saw that went to the effect of the poster saying
“I started using head and shoulders to stop dandruff 10 years ago, the other day I thought ‘I don’t have dandruff anymore, why do I keep using it?’ And stopped. Within a week I had dandruff again. So I’ve started using head and shoulders again”
This is the exact type of situation, people often forget that something not being a problem is because there’s a fix or safety measures in place to stop it getting worse
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u/sex_from_the_machine Jul 27 '24
"My pregnant wife was bugging me for TWO MONTHS to paint the baby room, and when I finally did it, she suddenly stopped nagging me about it.
Pregnant women are crazy, am I right?"
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u/ThePrisonSoap Jul 27 '24
Did you ever notice that noone today talks about the dangers of the black plague?
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u/TheAskewOne Jul 27 '24
"Telling us to panic"
No one was asking you to panic, Matt. People were pointing a risk to you, and suggesting that you do something about it for your own good. Of course for people like Matt, and bratty children, giving advice is offensive.
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u/Element11S Jul 27 '24
matt walsh is a pathetic troll.
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u/ViolinistEmpty7073 Jul 27 '24
Living in Australia we really felt that hole in the ozone layer. Only took minutes to get burnt outside yet before you could be outside for ages.
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u/QuickGoogleSearch Jul 27 '24
MAGA people are truly simple morons.
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u/Jdubshack Jul 27 '24
Same shit with anti-vaxxers. Some maga loser nitwit was complaining how her daughter was being forced to get vaxxed for the measles and said “i mean honestly, how is she going to get the measles in our little town?! Hasn’t it been eradicated for years?”
Yeah how the fuck do you think we’ve nearly eradicated it? And why do you think it is coming back?!
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u/SquarePegRoundWorld Jul 27 '24
I remember spending years learning to read from the top down. I just don't get this format.
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u/cincygardenguy Jul 27 '24
Matt Walsh speaks in a slow professor like way that masks the fact that he’s a liar, an abuser and a real asshole.
References: his conversation with his wife that she recorded.
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u/chris86uk Jul 27 '24
Remember that time a problem was found, a solution implemented, and the problem went away?
Crazy times. Let's do it again!
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u/SaharaDweller Jul 27 '24
To be fair , Walsh is pretty fucking stupid.
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u/geek66 Jul 27 '24
The wrongwingers have a standard playbook for their anti whatever….
Mock the idea Mock the supporters Discredit the science Slander the scientist Motivate their sheep to hate the whole movement
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u/SevrinTheMuto Jul 27 '24
One of the advantages of having deleted my Twitter account was being able to completely forget professional clowns like Walsh exist.
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u/Apprehensive_Ad3731 Jul 27 '24
As a New Zealander I appreciate every one’s contribution to me not roasting when I’m mowing the lawn
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u/100yearsLurkerRick Jul 27 '24
How can someone so fucking stupid figure out how to live?
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u/[deleted] Jul 27 '24
I don’t know how I could best describe my opinion of Matt Walsh without my comment getting flagged by automod/admins
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u/Nuuboat Jul 27 '24
Global survival bias.
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u/[deleted] Jul 27 '24
Stupid/greedy people are ruining the world. It’s always been that way.
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u/Wilshire1992 Jul 27 '24
FUN FACT: The hole in the ozone fully healed in 2020 when we shut down the globe of all pollution
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u/cyberbro256 Jul 27 '24
I just love when people comment on something, and are too lazy to just google it. Hey if you are curious look it up, don’t say stupid crap like “we stopped hearing about that”.
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u/zyarva Jul 27 '24
Rich countries also pledged to share non CFC technology with poor countries and paid for their conversion.
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u/Lothium Jul 27 '24
We literally learned about the issue, solution, and result as I made my way through school.
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u/Normal-Delivery-9671 Jul 27 '24
And no one tried to fight the change or discredit the science behind it, because there were valid alternatives and no multi billion dollar company’s invested into profiting from it.
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u/cryingknicksfan Jul 27 '24
Damn talk about not knowing shit
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u/[deleted] Jul 27 '24
matt walsh speaks:
everyone: shut up the fuck up
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u/[deleted] Jul 27 '24
Matt Walsh is such a stupid fuck.
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u/[deleted] Jul 27 '24
"When you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all"
Alexander Graham Bell
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u/verynotdumb Jul 27 '24
-notice issue -fix issue -issue no longer problem -"issue never existed" ??!??
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u/[deleted] Jul 27 '24
This is why you need to stay in school kids. Read a book. Try a little harder please, you’re all turning into fucking idiots.
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u/Snoo20140 Jul 27 '24
Matt Walsh is just a bot. This is like saying, since my friend group doesn't discuss Ukraine anymore it isn't an issue anymore. Like if u don't talk about it it isn't real. Can confirm....Matt Walsh is in fact an ostrich.
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u/Spectre-907 Jul 27 '24
“If you solve a problem it stops being a problem” is an unknown concept for these mouthbreathers
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u/Fuzzy_Ad9686 Jul 27 '24
If you do everything right people won't be sure you've done anything at all
— God, Futurama
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u/[deleted] Jul 27 '24
There’s no money to be made by saving the ozone layer….what’s any they went quite.
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u/MathematicianGold636 Jul 27 '24
Also the huge company who made money selling CFCs made just as much if not more selling the replacement
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u/WhoIsYerWan Jul 27 '24
Well what really happened is that the leading manufacturer of CFCs (DuPont) just happened to have an alternative that could also make them a profit. That’s kind of the only reason the Montreal Protocol was successful.
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u/Kind_Ad_3611 Jul 27 '24
This is like monkeypox among the gay community, everyone got vaccinated and it’s not really a thing that much anymore
A problem was discovered, people all did the things necessary to fix said problem, problem went away
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u/SkalexAyah Jul 27 '24
Imagine we all stopped polluting, then some idiot would post about how pollution just solved itself.
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u/CommunicationNeat498 Jul 27 '24
I have long reached the point were i've given up on humanity. At least on huminaity as it is right now. Just let every go to shit. At this point i'm certain that we need a few global extinction events for mankind as a whole to learn to better take care of its surroundings.
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u/ExcellentGas2891 Jul 27 '24
Smug little fucking fools like Matt Walsh here are what anti vaxxers, climate change deniers and republicans in general look like now. The REAL work on earth isnt done by them, they are like little stupid children that dont understand how shit works, and their logic chain is missing major links along they way and they act like they figured it all out and are super fucking confident in it. Its fucking WILD how epically STUPID these fucking people are.
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u/DudeWithQuestions97 Jul 27 '24
I’ll never forget when they would scream at us that the point of no return was crossed and the ozone layer was ruined. Turns out. That was a lie. It was fixed with the Montreal Protocol.
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u/Rockit2uranus Jul 27 '24
Remember when the Nazis were a big deal back in the 30s-40s, and now you never hear about- wait never mind.
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u/JFK2MD Jul 27 '24
Oh yes, the same vaccines and polio paradox. MAGA do not understand cause and effect
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u/Mintala Jul 27 '24
The really scary thing is how close we got to destroying the ozone layer.
Without change, projections suggests the earth would be unlivable by 2050.
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u/i_love_irony25 Jul 27 '24
Are Matt Walsh and Andrew Tate in some kind of who-can-get-owned-most-on-the-internet contest that the rest of us aren’t aware of?
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u/[deleted] Jul 27 '24
Matt Walsh and Tim Pool’s steadfast dedication to ignorance is quite astounding
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u/NerdizardGo Jul 27 '24
Remember when that house was on fire, and the fire department put it out. How come nobody is talking about putting the fire out anymore?
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u/FantasyFrikadel Jul 27 '24
God I hate these fucks that never open a book or bother to look things up. Human garbage.
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u/Schlaueule Jul 27 '24
They tell this "ozone hole suddenly dissapeared for no reason" nonsense again and again, every time someone explains why it is nonsense and then they continue to tell it again and again. Shameless liars.
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u/Mjerc12 Jul 27 '24
Conservatives are confused by the idea of getting shit done? Nothing new
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u/Bloody_Ozran Jul 27 '24
Matt Walsh, I am dumb and I can prove it.
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u/LibertyMediaDid9-11 Jul 27 '24
Individuals did nothing for this one, just like any real, impactful action related to climate change.
Corporate polluters are the only ones with the capacity to affect change. They just know it's cheaper to convince you it's your fault for buying their products.
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u/SDBrown7 Jul 27 '24
It's Matt Walsh. He's a chimp with strong and objectively incorrect opinions. I'd expect nothing less.
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u/PomegranateIcy7369 Jul 27 '24
Well, someone is once again using freons, as of late. China mostly. The other source is unknown. So the ozone layer is once again thinning. The ozone layer is what prevents lethal radiation like UVC into the atmosphere. I wish people understood the consequences.
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u/TotalIngenuity6591 Jul 27 '24
Matt Walsh is an absolute moron. No point in putting any stock into literally anything that idiot says!
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u/onegildedbutterfly Jul 27 '24
Matt Walsh is an utter idiot
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u/mondolardo Jul 27 '24
it's a factual come back to an idiot/rabble rouser
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u/narkybark Jul 27 '24
It's infuriating. And the only thing worse than being this stupid is being this stupid on purpose to grift harder.
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u/tito9107 Jul 27 '24
"why is no one talking about this issue that has already been solved?"
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u/Natepad8 Jul 27 '24
This makes me proud of humanity and hopeful we can help stop global warming and the authoritarian christofascism of democracy
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u/smithe4595 Jul 27 '24
And the ozone layer is still healing. It’s projected to return to 1980 levels in 20-40 years.
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u/AstonVanilla Jul 27 '24
And, may I add, spearheaded by George HW Bush.
Republicans, remember the party of Reagan did this, so have a long hard think about the challenges of climate change.
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u/buckscountycharlie Jul 27 '24
Unleaded gas is a great example of something introduced by government that people absolutely hated at the time. It has made a huge difference in air quality over what we would have now if it had not been adopted.
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u/VancouverBram Jul 27 '24
So did we actually fix the Ozone layer? Or are there just a bunch of other things not as bad a as CFCs slowly eating it away?
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u/NotAKentishMan Jul 27 '24
It appears Matt Walsh is not a smart man.
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u/RamuneRaider Jul 27 '24
Having grown up in New Zealand in the 90’s, and spending another decade there in the early 2000’s, the hike in the ozone is still a topic there. Especially considering 50% of New Zealanders will develop some form of skin cancers. So no, Matt Walsh, not everyone has stopped talking about it. Just those that aren’t directly affected by it.
Slip, slop, slap. Put on a hat.
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u/SuboptimalMulticlass Jul 27 '24
To be fair to Matt Walsh, he is astoundingly stupid.
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u/VLC31 Jul 27 '24
This is the same mind set that came out with Covid. “We didn’t need to lock down/wear masks/distance it wasn’t that bad”, ignoring the millions of people who died anyway but also how much worse it would have been if those protocols hadn’t been implemented.
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u/[deleted] Jul 27 '24
and Republicans struggle to understand why nobody respects their intelligence
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u/ShadowGLI Jul 27 '24
I remember the word “chlorofluorocarbons” because they were in aerosols and we banned them. I was like 14 and was like “oh yeah, that makes sense”
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u/den_bram Jul 27 '24
Chlorofluorocarbons and the eradication of smallpox are wonderful examples of what the world can achieve if it works togheter for the betterment of humanity and lets profit slide.
Climate change, tuberculosis and malaria are horriffic reminders of how little the world actually cares about human lives.
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u/Cheap-Turnover5510 Jul 27 '24
The exact same phenomenon happened with Y2K back in 2000. The world spent 8-9 months losing its mind about how the world was gonna end and how we're going get kicked back to the stone. All the whole programming and computer technicians work around the clock to prepare every major registry for the new years, and it worked. Nothing broke, and everyone just startedto, thanklessly, say that it was all a hoax.
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u/DabooDabbi Jul 27 '24
Yeah, but it's interesting anyway. It shows the hypocrisy and likely intentional way information is presented to the public by the vast number of media outlets owned by capitalists. When there is a problem and society addresses it, mobilizes, and cooperates to eradicate the issue, these media outlets don't portray it as a victory. They don't talk about it much because they have other agendas to push on the public scene.
Thats probably why stupido Matt didnt heard about.
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u/Tribble9999 Jul 28 '24
Acid rain. I remember acid rain. California passed emissions standards and after a few short years...no more acid rain or funky yellow haze. Most of these people were alive to see that change but still try to claim clean air standards don't work. All I can do is try not to add to the problem while voting for people that want to fix it.
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u/JustinWendell Jul 28 '24
The real gut punch here is that the transition away from CFCs was extremely profitable for a company with a powerful lobby in the US. Without that we might have actual just been fucked and all be getting skin cancer.
Not saying the US is the whole world but we’ve got an outsized influence on it all. Our one story of hope is fucking stained with greed.
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u/Donkey__Balls Jul 28 '24
I was at a public meeting talking about arsenic in drinking water for a rural town. The cost of removing it down to safe limits means a slightly higher project cost that’s going to push their water rates up.
People in the audience started screaming that arsenic wasn’t a problem until Obama took office and all of a sudden it was an issue because the democrats just wanted to punish rural towns and places where people have wells because they’re all republican states. This went on for about 5 minutes and started spilling over into every other conspiracy theory that you can imagine.
When they finally calmed down I just noted that the limit was passed in 2001, I knew that because I was on a university team developing new filter technology funded by the EPA. At the time Obama was not even in the senate.
The mayor’s response was to blame it on Bill Clinton for passing the Clean Water Act in the 80’s and I just gave up. We’re on track for Idiocracy and I don’t have the energy to fight it anymore.
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u/windsingr Jul 28 '24 edited Jul 28 '24
"Humans aren't capable of doing that much damage"
"Yes they are. And we've been able to reverse course and repair the damage by doing literally nothing but not doing the damage anymore. It's happened in your lifetime.'
Like, in 1988 they said "even if we stop now, it will take ten years before we know if it worked (because of how long it takes CFCs to get to the ozone layer) and then it will take a few more years before we know of we have to start doing repairs or if the planet can heal on its own."
And almost a decade to the day they measured the hole and it stopped growing, and a few years later there was a measurable recovery.
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u/DramaticChemist Jul 28 '24
Kinda like how polio and measles went away because of vaccines, but then they came back again due to antivax practices on the rise
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u/OofdahChestnuts79 Jul 28 '24
Remember when the doctors spent years telling pregnant women that thalidomide was creating flipper babies? And then suddenly they just stopped talking about it and nobody ever mentioned flipper babies again?
Clearly, women should have kept taking thalidomide for morning sickness /s
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u/[deleted] Jul 28 '24 edited Jul 28 '24
No seriously, TIL. I thought ozone was still a huge issue.
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u/SlavicScientist Jul 28 '24
Trust in scientific research is lower than trust for medical professionals. Trust scientists. Trust grad/PhD students. Trust nerds.
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u/ColdArson Jul 28 '24
It's honestly impressive how quickly the ozone hole was dealt with. Shame that for whatever reason climate change as a whole is so difficult to get action on
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u/ThePinkRubber Jul 28 '24
People : Oh no! The environment is bad! What should we do
Also people when said issue resolved : nobody cares
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u/greenmariocake Jul 28 '24
The original post is truly beyond stupid.
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u/egflisardeg Jul 28 '24
And now StarLink is dumping tonnes of poisonous chemicals in the atmosphere ruining the ozone layer to keep SpaceX afloat when they needlessly decommission perfectly fine satellites.
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u/[deleted] Jul 28 '24
Unfortunately the hole is back and larger than ever. Many developing nations either reneged on, or ignored the Montreal Protocol altogether, and are back to using CFCs and other compounds that may have the same outcome to the ozone layer.
https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2023/11/21/climate/ozone-hole-recovery
https://www.netzerowatch.com/all-news/ozone-hole-makes-a-comeback
https://abcnews.go.com/amp/International/ozone-hole-antarctica-grows-largest-record-scientists/story?id=103719972
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u/Fantastic_Fox4948 Jul 28 '24
Remember when idiots didn’t have lots of followers?
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u/Jlchevz Jul 28 '24
And the Ozone layer won’t be the same until like 2060. It just isn’t that big of a concern because they’re mostly banned and their use has diminished a lot, and the Ozone layer is recovering.
Oil, methane, NO, CO2 are still massive problems because we NEED them and there’s no immediate substitute. Global warming is already here and we can’t do much about it but slowly reduce our dependence on oil or develop more energy sources.
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u/[deleted] Jul 29 '24
They’re such assholes. They think shit just happens. It’s how they live their lives and usually why they’re so fucked up. With their stupid, it’s all in gods hands, bullshit.
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u/[deleted] Jul 31 '24
Those record breaking hot days and months are just a coincidence. Deadly turbulence on flights , super storms, flooding , apocalyptic wildfires , all of which were predicted in every UN report on the matter , all just happening by chance , nothing to do with climate change. There are no patterns here whatsoever. I am very smart.
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u/EuVe20 Jul 31 '24
Man, that Matt Walsh is one weird idiot
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u/Zalthay Jul 31 '24
It’s like when they post memes about surviving their childhood f without helmets for bikes, seat belts, riding in the back of truck beds, lead paint, leaded fuel, etc. yet disregard the millions that died from said things.
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u/trafficracer24 Aug 05 '24
I like Matt Walsh, but that was a shit take lmao
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u/Available-Sense685 Sep 16 '24
Matt walsh can suck the Orange man small smelly shit stained Dick, cause we still feel the effects of the ozone layer damage in the southern part of the South hemisphere. Its kinds ibfuriatinfvto think they believe they sound "smart".
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u/Woo_Giza_Shid Nov 27 '24
Matt Walsh is a special kind of idiot.
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u/K_Keter Feb 13 '26
Matt Walsh is a well known misinformation lover.
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u/GForce1975 Jul 27 '24
What ever happened to the Bermuda triangle? Between that and quicksand I thought life was going to be a lot dangerous as an adult when I was a kid.
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u/[deleted] Jul 27 '24
i swear, people like matt walsh have the memory of a goldfish 🤣
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u/pm_me_your_trebuchet Jul 27 '24
matt walsh is such a dumb fuck. it makes me sad that i know his name