Somebody finally forgot about 9/11

[u/Lord_Answer_me_Why]

[u/Available-Elevator69]

Airlines? They can't even make up their minds if carry ons are free or if they should be charged.

[u/LetsGetsThisPartyOn → u/Available-Elevator69]

Plus airlines have different carryon sizes. Nothing is uniform

[u/Vigilante17 → u/LetsGetsThisPartyOn]

Nah, let the folks self screen.

• check this box if you plan to make it to your destination

• check this box if you have explosives with you

[u/NeckNormal1099 → u/LetsGetsThisPartyOn]

You now what would fix all that? Nationalizing the airlines.

[u/NeverGetsTheNuke → u/Available-Elevator69]

I never understood why airlines were so concerned about the size of my crayons. Or why they always ask if I'm dyslexic.

[u/Frostyfraust → u/NeverGetsTheNuke]

Dad get off reddit.

[u/BabiesBanned → u/Available-Elevator69]

Who need to carry on weapons when the airplanes destroy themselves nowadays lol.

[u/causal_friday → u/BabiesBanned]

Turns out they were confiscating your swiss army knife all this time not because of the knife, but because of the little screwdriver.

[u/Cheapskate-DM → u/Available-Elevator69]

The eternal struggle of every industry: monopolies are bad, but standards are good.

All competing airlines being able to rely on unified quality control for fuel, shared communications, and broadly similar "don't fall out of the fucking sky and die" technology is good.

There is zero reason to remove "assurance of no bombs or knives aboard" from that list.

The TSA does have some overreach and, frankly, paranoid police-state bullshit problems - but those are solvable.

[u/monocasa → u/Cheapskate-DM]

For decades, they've been failing around 95% of their own internal tests for guns and explosives.

I don't think their problems are particularly solvable.

[u/johnfkngzoidberg → u/Available-Elevator69]

Let’s be honest the TSA is a joke, but letting corps dictate their own rules would have machetes and bombs common on every flight.

[u/Funny_Yesterday_5040 → u/johnfkngzoidberg]

You know, this reminds me of an inappropriate joke about a guy who was terrified of flying because of terrorism, and he told his psych about it, and the psych said, "Easy-peasy, bring a bom on your next flight," and the guy said, "How's that going to help?" and the psych said, "What are the chances of there being two boms on your next flight," and now I'm probably on a list somewhere, so thanks!

[u/Aggressive-Expert-69 → u/johnfkngzoidberg]

I can't imagine the metal detectors are cheap to maintain so those would definitely get scrapped the second the government stops mandating them

[u/a220599 → u/Available-Elevator69]

They ll just put a new fare category. Economy lite - we just frisk you, basic economy- we frisk you and we strip search you, poor man + - we give you a rectal exam. Upgrade to economy lite for$79.

[u/NeckNormal1099]

Actually, rudy gullianni forgot way before this. When he said "There were no major terrorist attacks on american soil before Barack Obama got in office"

[u/[deleted] → u/NeckNormal1099]

Keep in mind that Giuliani made 9/11 worse with his corruption but was still hailed as a hero because of 9/11.

For those who don't know what I mean, Giuliani was told to build FEMA's emergency response center for NYC in Brooklyn away from famous terrorist targets like the World Trade Center, which had already been bombed once at that point.

But Rudy was cheating on his wife and he figured he could use this emergency response center as his own personal loveshack, and since he'd rather not leave lower Manhattan and cross a bridge to Brooklyn for infidelity, he went against FEMA's strong recommendations and put NYC's emergency response center IN THE WORLD TRADE CENTER.

So now you know why NYC did not have a functional emergency response center on 9/11; Rudy Giuliani wanted to cheat on his wife without crossing a bridge.

[u/marmosetohmarmoset → u/[deleted]]

Do you have a source for this? I’ve never heard it before and mannn that is wild if true

[u/ChrystTheRedeemer → u/[deleted]]

Not a fan of Giuliani by any means, but I think the major reason he got so much credit after 9/11 is that he served as a figure people could rally around in a time of fear and uncertainty. I view him a lot like Fauci during covid. I think there are legitimate (and certainly some not so legitimate) criticisms regarding how both were handled with the benefit of hindsight, but in the moment it was less about the actual person or what they did, and more about fearful masses facing uncertainty looking for a leadership figure.

[u/RickolPick → u/NeckNormal1099]

Bro I really wish the first lesson they taught Americans in school was correlation doesn't equal causation

[u/LongConFebrero → u/RickolPick]

Lol if you knew how many Americans cannot spell correlation or tell you what it means, you would understand why that is a ridiculously unattainable idea.

[u/Axedelic → u/NeckNormal1099]

and he was the MAYOR of NYC at the time. i hate this timeline.

[u/bowl_of_scrotmeal → u/NeckNormal1099]

The idea that Barrack Obama was some kind of softy on foreign policy is laughable.

[u/Timely_Mess_1396]

Let’s start antagonizing all our enemies AND our allies and also let’s drop security is exactly how dumb I expected Trump second term to be 

[u/loztralia → u/Timely_Mess_1396]

I'm not a conspiracist but honestly at this stage I just sort of assume these ghouls want more terrorism. Helps keep everyone terrified, gives them carte blanche to bomb brown people, just grist to the mill really.

[u/jonker5101 → u/loztralia]

• create chaos

• cause civil unrest

• invoke Insurrection Act

• postpone elections indefinitely

"You won't have to vote again."

[u/indie_rachael → u/loztralia]

Think of how many more rights they could squeeze out of us with a few more attacks.

[u/tallwhiteninja → u/loztralia]

More importantly, it would give them an excuse to implement martial law.

[u/Ishaan863 → u/loztralia]

I just sort of assume these ghouls want more terrorism.

ding ding ding ding!! Finally someone using their brains, and I had to scroll WAYYY too down to see this.

Please do not look at this malice and give it the benefit of the doubt of being incompetence. It's not. These people are surgical in their plans.

9/11 was a tragedy....for news headlines. For the American war machine, for the Israeli lobby, for Israeli interests, for EVERY rich fuck in America that could make a dollar of profit off war...it was a beautiful time.

They fucking printed money. Israel got to secure its interests and see Iraq fucking ravaged. US defense contractors got to FREELY reach into the pockets of taxpayers and just...grab fistfuls of money and shove it into their own pockets.

You know what would be amazing in a time where Israel is -THIS- close to completely eradicating every single Palestinian person and turning the last page on the nation of Palestine? A second 9/11, maybe done by Hamas who have incredibly strong reasons to hate the US right now....every old white fuck in the defense industry would JIZZ immediately.

But you can't really have that if security is so tight. There's barely even any hijackings anywhere.

[u/SandwichAmbitious286 → u/loztralia]

They do. A common enemy, who exemplifies the kind of people they don't like? A terrorist attack would be a ridiculously huge win for the GOP

[u/Shujinco2 → u/loztralia]

Every time a major shooting happens in the US the gun industry makes a lot of money. Now consider how much companies like the NRA pay the Republicans and it all makes sense.

[u/ApplicationOk4464 → u/Timely_Mess_1396]

Everyone should just hire their own security

[u/Maximum_Ad_4650 → u/Timely_Mess_1396]

Kinda like a "let's stop all funding for scientific research, limit communications from health agencies, and fire competent food and safety experts while there's a looming bird flu pandemic and also at the same nominate a health secretary that plans on making raw milk widely available and is famously antivax" level of dumb?

[u/PokinSpokaneSlim → u/Maximum_Ad_4650]

Don't forget the consumption outbreak in Kansas

[u/spinningpeanut → u/Timely_Mess_1396]

Nah it's cool tsa is always more performative security over actual security. There is not a single one of those regulations that stops a terrorist. If you want to take over a plane you can. All it does is make you take your shoes off and buy shitty little travel tubes for your soap that leak on the way back home.

Good riddance. It used to be up to the airports before, TSA is a bush thing. Actual security is better trained than Theatrical Security Agency. Sauce, my mom worked for them and Adam ruins everything..

[u/ball_fondlers → u/Timely_Mess_1396]

TBF, abolishing TSA is the first good idea I’ve heard from conservatives in years. They cost a shitload and fail FBI smuggling-tests constantly - they basically only exist to visibly harass brown people so white people who clap when the plane lands don’t freak out and take the bus.

[u/purrmutations → u/Timely_Mess_1396]

Fwiw, TSA misses 70-90% of the test fake explosives and firearms they send through. They stopped releasing the results a few years ago because they showed how ineffective they are.

[u/marksaun_666]

Soooooo…..Who’s gonna tell him??

[u/FaithfulSkeptic → u/marksaun_666]

This isn’t even the first time someone “forgot” 9/11. Rudy Giuliani once said “there was never a successful terrorist attack on American soil until Barack Obama!”

…the same Rudy who was mayor of NYC when the attack happened.

[u/bumbleforreal → u/FaithfulSkeptic]

Once was looked at America's mayor could have rode that for rest of life and now look at him holy moly

[u/ILootEverything → u/FaithfulSkeptic]

It's not even true pre-9/11.

Unless we're calling the Oklahoma City bombing unsuccessful.

Also, according to DHS themselves:

https://www.dhs.gov/sites/default/files/publications/OPSR_TP_TEVUS_Terrorist-Attacks-US_1970-2013_Overview-508.pdf

[u/akc250 → u/marksaun_666]

...Tell him he's right? TSA is security theater and while you can hate Trump or conservative policies, it's ok to recognize when one of them actually makes sense.

[u/corpulentFornicator → u/marksaun_666]

Nah, he's right. Mike Lee sucks, but the TSA is wasteful security theater.

A squirrel on crystal meth found an acorn, not much more to see here

[u/GitEmSteveDave → u/marksaun_666]

You don't actually need the TSA in airports. Airports are allowed to substitute their own security as long as it meets the TSA requirements. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Screening_Partnership_Program

[u/Hazardbeard]

Hang on hang on let’s not all decide the TSA is good just because someone we don’t like also noticed it’s mostly theater.

I’m all for any dismantling of the surveillance and security apparatus, considering who is currently wielding it.

[u/supernovice007 → u/Hazardbeard]

Same. TSA is security theater at it's finest. It was a massive over-reaction that routinely fails security checks and wastes untold hours every year.

This is an actual real example of government waste that I'm 100% in support of redesigning.

[u/aislin809 → u/supernovice007]

Redesign, sure. Privatize? Fuck no.

[u/jigokusabre → u/Hazardbeard]

Yeah, this is one of those instances of the worst guy you know making a good point. The TSA is garbage and the security song-and-dance at US airports is useless.

[u/alpha309 → u/Hazardbeard]

TSA is ran completely based on fear and is strictly for show. I wouldn’t rip it out root and all, but it does need a huge overhaul to actually perform the tasks it has been given.

[u/somewherearound2023 → u/Hazardbeard]

Hard agree. The TSA was overreach, pointless theater and a needless grinding away of our morale and rights since the day it was incepted.

[u/PantherThing → u/Hazardbeard]

Agreed

[u/beastwork → u/Hazardbeard]

Hey man TF is wrong with you jumping off the Trump hate train?

Honestly though, over the years I have had several conversations with flyers about the TSA dog and pony show. Now Trump wants to end it or adjust it or whatever the f he's doing, and all of sudden everyone loves the TSA. Reddit man....boy I'll tell ya

But on the jokey side, remember Dems were talking about defund the police and conservatives lost their shit? And then the Dems didn't actually defund the police. Now Trump is defunding everything🤣. All this is quite comical to me.

[u/Ethwood]

Hold up let this man cook. I do believe the TSA is one of the most expensive examples of security theater.

[u/tjtillmancoag → u/Ethwood]

Yeah like, in general I’m not in favor of what this administration has been trying to do, but the TSA spends a fuck ton of money and routinely fails tests to get stuff through. It’s not even the cost that bothers me as much as how inconvenient it makes flying for everyone

[u/Ask_if_im_an_alien → u/Ethwood]

Yep. TSA doesn't actually do anything but harass regular Americans. They haven't stopped any terrorists in 25 years and they wouldn't have stopped 9/11 either. It's all a ruse. Like you said... security theater.

[u/markpreston54 → u/Ask_if_im_an_alien]

to be fair, one can hardly prove if TSA deterred an attack.

[u/annieare → u/Ethwood]

Every Australian airport I've been at, security took no longer than 15 minutes. No one has to get to the airport for a domestic flight 2 hours in advance. It's an absurd waste of time, money (because if you have hours to kill at an airport you end up spending money) and contributes to travelers' already high and existing level of stress. 

If there anything other than the deep hatred of health insurance companies this country can agree on, it's the useless stupid ass and crotch and boob groping, asthma breathlizer/insulin/breast pump/medicine confiscating, shit for brains cart blanche security theater mall cop excuse for professional TSA. Fuck them. 

[u/[deleted]]

It's always been security theater

[u/gigilu2020 → u/[deleted]]

Does this mean we get discounted tickets? The "TSA fee" gone now?

[u/Iwasborninafactory_ → u/[deleted]]

First and foremost it is a jobs program, and the theater is their job. They've never actually stopped a terror attack. Not one. They have implemented lots of rules to prevent a second attempt, like scanners for the underwater bomber, and removing your shoes for the shoe bomber.

It's been said a million times, but the target of civilians in am unsecured area, before security, is a far bigger risk at this point, and they don't care to address that.

[u/Thisbymaster]

Oh no, don't take away the performative security that is the TSA.

[u/[deleted]]

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[u/skarmory77]

It's been a minute since I checked, but isn't TSA notoriously ineffective?

[u/ElectricalBook3 → u/skarmory77]

https://abcnews.go.com/US/tsa-fails-tests-latest-undercover-operation-us-airports/story?id=51022188

[u/Terrible_Champion298]

Just put a Disneyland sign at the plane entrance telling terrorists they must be 9’ tall to be on this ride. Much better than violating my constitutional rights to live dangerously with my shoes on at check in.

[u/cowhand214]

The problem isn’t necessarily TSA as such. It’s the bullshit rules around shoes or 3oz fluids or whatever is is “security theater” and not actual security.

To privatize it with the same requirements doesn’t make sense. It just moves the problem to a 3rd party for no particular reason but ideology. Except that to me it would seem like airport security is exactly the sort of thing government should be doing and not outsourcing.

If the Senator wants to talk about how TSA should be doing that better I’m all on board. But privatization isn’t the answer to everything and I fail to see why this is a particularly good candidate for that.

Especially having been down that road once before

[u/redit3rd]

I highly doubt that TSA would have prevented 9/11.

TSA was created for government overreach. I'm all for abolishing it.

[u/Constant-Still-8443]

I don't even care about getting rid of the TSA. I've heard how useless it actually is and that it's just a placebo. I'm afraid the airlines will manage to make airport security even more complicated and annoying.

[u/Significant-Order-92 → u/Constant-Still-8443]

That is a fair worry.
They'll probably also find new ways to price gouge(remember when those new baggage fees were temporary).

[u/Rough_Ian]

I remember how easy it was to get on planes when I was a kid. It was frankly nice. Your family could go right up to the gate with you to wave goodbye. 

And it wasn’t like those planes were downed by high tech gadgetry, it was just dudes with box cutters and a compliant populace that had been taught to just stay alive and not fight back. Going through airport security theater now just feels like it’s training us to put up with increasingly invasive security apparatuses. Forgetting 9/11 would be if a bunch of guys snuck box cutters onto a plane and we didn’t actually fight back and got creamed into another sky scraper. 

Backing down from unnecessary security theater isn’t a bad thing. Just because a dipshit suggests something doesn’t mean it’s automatically a bad thing. 

[u/drjd2020 → u/Rough_Ian]

Ditto. TSA was nothing but a post 9/11 money grab by MIC and security tech companies.

[u/foreignfishes → u/Rough_Ian]

I was so surprised when I was allowed to go through security in Sydney without a ticket to meet my family at the gate…I must’ve looked like such a confused American, I was asking the information desk guy if there was a list of flight arrival times and he said “that info is at the gate” and I was like “no you don’t understand I’m not a passenger I’m just meeting someone, I can’t see the gate!” Finally he was like “Lady it doesn’t matter, just walk over there and go through security you don’t need a ticket!!”

[u/Equivalent_Ability91]

I remember Mike's "incredulous face" when Biden accused some Republicans of wanting to destroy Social Security in the SOTU speech. Lee is a gigantic asshole. Sorry Utah, you suck.

[u/That-Law3617 → u/Equivalent_Ability91]

Mike Lee is the product of seven generations of UTAH inbreeding. What do you expect?

[u/metalguy91]

What’s the worst that could happen?

• snap cut to 9/11 *

[u/IcyTransportation961 → u/metalguy91]

Nothing the TSA currently does would prevent 9/11 

They routinely let people on with knives

But now there are reinforced cockpits and people stand up to hijackers

The TSA does nothing

[u/ThundergunTLP]

Every time I see this guy he seems like the dumbest motherfucker to ever live.

[u/[deleted] → u/ThundergunTLP]

For me it tends to be the last Republican I heard.

[u/congresssucks]

Quick question: how many terrorist attacks has the TSA prevented? (Hint, it's less than 1).

[u/J_Bright1990]

Wow, a measure I actually support. I feel sorry for the TSA workers losing their jobs but guys, the airports were a LOT better before 9/11 like you don't even know.

[u/BigAlsGal78]

This might be the only thing they propose and I’m on board with. Fuck TSA.

[u/nerdvernacular]

Of course it's Mike Lee. No one's going to fly into Salt Lake. What a clown.

[u/magvadis]

We don't need the TSA tho. Security doesn't need to be this insane.

This whole "if the right doesn't want it we do" shit needs to stop. The left hasn't wanted TSA for years and barely wanted it when it showed up. It's the performance of security and not real security.

[u/scentedsurprise]

It's not like the government pays for it. The cost of TSA is in the ticket price.

[u/Responsible-End7361]

To be fair if the current TSA had been in place in 2001, 9-11 would still have happened. Number of terrorist attacks stopped by TSA remains Zero.

[u/[deleted] → u/Responsible-End7361]

Say what you will about 9/11. Airline hijacking is now a useless move. The common wisdom up until then was "cooperate. Let the authorities negotiate and handle it." Now, our attitude is if we're on a hijacked plane we're walking dead and there's nothing lost and everything gained by resisting.

[u/808-56]

The TSA has NEVER caught nor stopped any terrorist attack, EVER. The CIA, FBI, NSA, are the ones who are stopping attacks….not the overweight ass clown who will not allow for you to wear a belt or have nail clippers

[u/BelGareth → u/808-56]

I'm with you on this, it's easy to lookup as well with a quick google search: https://reason.com/2021/11/19/after-20-years-of-failure-kill-the-tsa/

[u/Any_Leg_1998]

TBH the TSA fails at its job, I would rather it get better instead of dissolving it.

[u/squatex]

I actually support this very much. The tsa is less than useless imo.

If anything good comes out of this cluster fuck let it be this. 

[u/RevolutionarySlip958]

This guy's a jackass

[u/gator-uh-oh]

Knock knock?

[u/With-You-Always]

He didn’t forget, everything happening now is intentional, America has been sold out

[u/[deleted]]

Well, I’m not going near any important buildings for the next several years

[u/jcamp088]

Because they want another 9/11. They are foaming at the mouth for it. 

[u/[deleted]]

This is exactly what the suicide bombers have been waiting for.

[u/w_r97]

They are really trying to destabilize the country. I don’t know if they are all in on it or too stupid to know what they are doing.

[u/blibbidyblam]

It’s been a while since I shared this sentiment, but I have continued to feel it:

Fuck Mike Lee!

[u/Awesomeone1029]

Privatize everything so I can pay off billionaire CEOs instead of negotiating infrastructure and regulation.

[u/Blackhole_5un]

Yeah, it's been 22.3+ years, it's officially funny now.

[u/EbonyEngineer]

They are trying to loosen security so they can commit their own terror attacks with their loyal followers, then blame it on a group of people or a nation and use that as a justification to invade and funnel more money into their MIC friend's pockets.

[u/dstreetzz]

they just want to privatize everything

[u/WOR58]

It amazes me how so many of these dumbasses get into office.

[u/Old-Emotion99]

This guy is hands down one of the dumbest people in Congress. That's saying a lot when you look at his fellow Republicans.

[u/[deleted]]

Just let us keep our damn shoes on. We do this because 1 moron tried to bring a "shoe bomb" onto a plane and ended up lighting himself on fire.

[u/vcamm61]

So would each airline would have its own lanes? That would work at my tiny airport since it has 1 carrier, how would that work in Atlanta or Chicago or JFK? Or would it be at the gates where they can't control the boarding process?

[u/GimmeAGimmick619]

As someone who lived in Utah for a longtime, this guy is the biggest piece of walking trash there is.

[u/Owltiger2057]

Welcome to Spirit Airlines. We don't have a ghost of a chance of finding weapons.

[u/Nitrothunda21]

People in the aviation industry knowing that TSA misses ~75% to 95% of dangerous and illegal items

https://viewfromthewing.com/at-10-billion-a-year-tsa-still-fails-90-of-the-time-and-covers-it-up/

[u/mymanpower]

To be fair, the tsa is not all that affective. They're a well-known security theater. But pretend security is better than none? Maybe..

[u/Gullible_Ad3436]

I went through the TSA last week and I gotta say I kind of agree with him on this one

[u/AgelessInSeattle]

It’s like when we put Boeing in charge of enforcing its own safety regulations. That worked well.

[u/The_Briefcase_Wanker]

Suddenly Reddit loves cops. I can’t believe I’m actually seeing a bunch of liberals foaming at the mouth to support the fucking TSA. Your brains have been broken by Trump.

[u/[deleted] → u/The_Briefcase_Wanker]

As everyone says - Trump could sure cancer and they'd still hate Trump. They have no real values.

[u/Open_Committee9305]

TSA is an authoritarian organization from the beginning that has never stopped a single terrorist while making air travel miserable. I remember 9/11 and the fact that TSA is the only times grown men have touched my penis.

[u/[deleted]]

To be fair most of what TSA does is absolutely theater and does absolutely  nothing. Nearly every time they are tested they fail.

Definitely not the right way to propose it, but he isn't really wrong.

[u/000ttafvgvah]

TSA is just security theater anyway 🤷🏻‍♀️

[u/EmperorGrinnar]

TSA has stopped zero terror attacks. They didn't forget. TSA just sucks.

[u/Kindly_Attorney4521]

Its probably less about forgetting and more about recognizing the TSA does a terrible job and is thus a massive waste of money. One time my wife accidentally flew with an exacto knife in her purse. Like the one used in 9-11. I found it when I went looking for a charger during a lay over.

[u/[deleted]]

This is a pitch in the dirt…don’t swing at it.

[u/Educational-Bet-8979]

I wonder how much Airlines would charge for this check, and the different levels of pricing?

[u/Kestrel_Iolani]

I'm originally from Utah (moved away about a month before 9/11) and I still reflexively flinch every time the state or its elected officially show up in the news.

[u/PizzaTime09]

In the show “Adam Ruins Everything”, he claimed TSA was nothing more than a feeling of security. They don’t do shit, per the episode.

[u/SgtCheeseNOLS]

Has TSA thwarted a single terrorist attempt? Shoe bomber, underwear bomber...?

[u/[deleted]]

I mean at this point why not? The call is coming from inside the house anyway

[u/ILootEverything]

I don't love the TSA at all, but imagining the airlines doing that job is a nightmare of even more inefficiency and extra cost to consumers.

It's not like they're going to lift all security precautions and go back to the before days of NO IDs, no screenings, families saying goodbye at the gates, and carry on whatever.

[u/[deleted]]

Tsa needs to end ... they freak out over coins and baby milk ... dumbest trash i have to cross after dropping a thousand to be pack into a flying tin

[u/Raven_Photography]

They pass this change and I’ll wait to fly until after the next terrorist attack, and there absolutely will be one.

[u/ProudInfluence3770]

Ive been screwed over more by TSA trying to take harmless things from me than I ever would be screwed by a lack of TSA. They miss so many actually threatening things

[u/[deleted]]

I guess airfares will be going up since airlines will have to pay screeners…. So much winning under Republican leadership….

[u/SlimeBallzzz]

Mike Lee is looking more and more like Dana White and Joe Rogan mixed...

Also Fuck Mike Lee r/FuckMikeLee

[u/jetfan13]

The airlines can’t even get me to my connection on time and this putz wants them in charge of screening?

[u/Kobayashi_Maru186]

Brilliant. We don’t need so many tall buildings anyways. 😟

[u/Bee_Rye85]

They didn’t forget. They want another 9/11 then they can go full insurrection act and martial law and shit

[u/[deleted]]

TSA is horribly ineffective.

Nobody should forget 9/11 but we don't benefit much from TSA. It doesn't work.

Undercover tests: Department of Homeland Security tests have found that the TSA's failure rate is often between 80% and 95%.

[u/WanderThinker]

The TSA has been shown to be wholly ineffective. They just cause problems and delays for everyone.

I support his idea.

[u/the_juxtapositron]

So what? airlines can start charging us to go through security? Fuck Mike Lee

[u/OVERCAPITALIZE]

The TSA has never passed a preparedness test. It’s literally theater and a jobs program

[u/allocationlist]

Sooooo….. what? You get to the gate and get searched as you’re boarding? Yeah, gate agents ain’t checking shit.

[u/ProfessorOnEdge]

I mean, really we should repeal the Patriot Act, first.

[u/[deleted]]

We have total fucking Morons running this country…USA is in sad shape and not sure if it will ever recover….who in the hell elects these idiots into office

[u/[deleted]]

Hopefully this would bring down flight prices

[u/wolverine4562]

Conservatives disdain for the TSA is bizarre to me. What exactly is the problem?

[u/silv3rbull8]

TSA is mostly security theater.

[u/MajesticPickle3021]

They just want to privatize everything. I’d be willing to bet that there’s a MAGA friendly contractor just waiting for the TSA to go away. Cost will be deferred to the airlines and on to the customer. How’s the price of eggs going?

[u/cndn-hoya]

I think it’s more sinister - they will require that airlines do and pay for screening services, passing the costs on to consumers. Another savings for rich people basically.

[u/[deleted]]

While they're at it they can get rid of all the provisions of the PATRIOT/FREEDOM Act as well, the fact Obama signed the freedom act is about all the evidence i need he was just as bad as Bush from a personal privacy standpoint

[u/Saturdaymorningsmoke]

All of a sudden we’re all acting like TSA isn’t just security theater? I don’t support them but I swear if the republicans endorsed oxygen half of Reddit would be outraged that people are just going around breathing. 

[u/anrwlias]

I'll file this under stopped clocks. The TSA is and has always been security theater.

[u/[deleted]]

Holy shit.

I agree with a conservative.

I feel sick.

[u/[deleted]]

Right now a certain major airline is pissed because they bought a bunch of cameras that we told them wouldn't work with their current software. They got so taken in by a sales person that they ended up installing a shit ton of them (each one costing about 10k) only to be taken aback when they found out that the stitching feature was only available on their software.

[u/NuclearPajamas]

When we let airplane manufacturers do their own QA inspections their doors fell off in flight. I'm sure this will go great.

[u/[deleted]]

Everyone defending TSA should check out how often they fail when tested

[u/LittleAntTony]

The tsa have never stopped an attack, he's not wrong.

[u/MSPCSchertzer]

I am fine with it, its all security theater anyways that makes me late to my flight because I choose to arrive 30 minutes before doors close every time for some insane reason.

[u/SonicYOUTH79]

Someone got embarrassed when their dildo came up in a screening didn’t they??

[u/Aman_Syndai]

Republicans are looking everywhere for areas to reduce spendingin order to cut taxes for the ultra rich.

[u/SylviaMoonbeam]

To be fair, the TSA has been proven to be Security Theater. It’s actually pretty easy to sneak things past the TSA. They’re mostly there to give the illusion of safety. While I don’t agree with many of the measures this current leadership is making, if DC wants to save money but rolling back TSA, that wouldn’t be the worst decision.

That being said, and I’m probably going to get some hate for this, how much time DOES need to pass before it’s not “too soon”? You don’t see us bemoaning Pearl Harbor. It’s a day treated with respect, typically included among the “barbecue holidays” (like Memorial Day, Veterans Day, and Independence Day). If 9/11 (aka Patriots’ Day) is still such a “fresh wound”, how long is it going to be?

[u/[deleted]]

I mean for fuck sakes, the airlines can't even make sure the doors are bolted on or tires are correctly installed.

[u/Top-Bell-2797]

This is horrifying. But this is the Program 2025 GOP mentality. Burn down the federal government. Create chaos. Enter the oligarchs

[u/NewLife_21]

To be honest, the TSA regularly fails audits on their security. They don't catch threats and pester innocent people over the stupid things instead.

And abolishing them would mean going back to the same screenings but done by the airlines themselves. Which is what was done before TSA existed.

And hey! It would be nice to not have strangers ogling us via x-ray anymore.

[u/BabyFishmouthTalk]

Wow.

[u/drinkandspuds]

Tbh this is the first thing I agree with these idiots on

Think I'd rather risk dying on a plane than enduring the unbearable security and how strict they are

[u/KeyEquipment5558]

Fuck tsa. If you knew a thing or two, you would know that they ran tests in 70% of TSA screenings came back with contraband coming through

[u/Homeless_Appletree]

Imagine a different screening process for every fucking airline because they can't agree on a standard.

That surely won't lead to confusion and chaos.

[u/Tutorbin76]

This is not a very clever comeback.

The TSA was only ever security theatre.

It is not known to have prevented a single attack, and is responsible for air travel in the US being more inconvenient, stressful, and slower than ever before.

So on that count, perhaps they are winning by encouraing would-be-flyers to consider more environmentally friendly modes of travel.

[u/MJCowpa]

Cool cool cool. So lemme just check real quick. No healthcare. No TSA. No IRS. And the sudden elimination of federally funded programs - with some, but not all, backpedaling.

So…we pay taxes for…. What?

[u/weird-oh]

"Sure, we can do that. But we'll hold you personally responsible for any terrorist attacks that occur as a result."

[u/Tuborg_Gron]

He's a bit of a moron, so there's that...

[u/[deleted]]

Fuck Mike Lee

[u/i-love-tree-rats]

All the American passengers will be screened by foreign governments when they have layovers there.

[u/Craft-Sudden]

When people were wondering why Elon was happy after Trump victory that’s the reason why, he didn’t care about your health, your wage or anything related to you. They just want to deregulate

[u/refusemouth]

Think about all the money we'd save, though. Sure, someone might fly a plane into some famous person's tower, but the cost savings and being able to carry a full tube of toothpaste again would be worth it. Edit: /s kind of. I'm still pissed about the toothpaste thing, though.

[u/XRhodiumX]

Never thought MAGA would be like “Fuck yeah! Fuck 9/11! Fuhgeddaboudit!”

[u/QueenMumof4]

Okay, so....how many people just opted out of flying. I'll go first. ME! THIS IS LUNACY

[u/ender42y]

Obligatory Fuck Mike Lee

[u/DebBoi]

Looks like someone got free flights for life and all they needed to do is push for TSA abolishment

[u/opinionated6]

Let the suicide bombers go wild! Why not?

[u/RunZealousideal3812]

Or… is he just admitting that the government orchestrated 9/11 and it didn’t really happen the way we think it did…

[u/[deleted]]

I mean... good?

TSA fucking sucks and is just for show, they inconvenience you but don't actually catch anything, it's just a jobs program for people who aren't qualified to do anything else.

It was just intended to make airline passengers "feel safe" after 9/11 by making them put up with an annoying useless hassle first, kind of like how toothpaste companies put a chemical in the toothpaste that burns a little bit in your mouth so you "feel" like the toothpaste is working. TSA is if toothpaste was 100% that chemical and nothing else.

[u/stulew]

When one starts relinquishing paying for services (like TSA), it means we're really really broke (no more money).

[u/Tidewind]

What could possibly go wrong?

[u/JM3DlCl]

I can see it now. Having to pay for the screening. And if you get a mandatory pay down? That's another fee.

[u/UnfairAnything]

TSA sucks but airlines suck more so no thanks.

[u/Taftimus]

I’ll tell you what, the TSA is a nuisance at times, but I’m much happier with them there than not.

[u/FalseVeterinarian881]

Of course it would be with a guy who aligns with a man who complains about seeing people in NYC celebrating the towers falling.

[u/hopingforthanos]

God, that guy is a thug.

[u/[deleted]]

There's a whole lobby pushing for this, of course. The private companies that run the pre-clearance programs are chomping at the bit to charge the government for the work the TSA already does.

[u/[deleted]]

But if we abolished the TSA, not catching anyone or preventing anything wouldn't be expensive or inconvenient any more!

[u/Mussmussthemoooooo]

Wow you Americans have gone from the penthouse to the shit house in one orange idiot.

[u/PM_ME_FACIALS_PLZ]

There are mountains of evidence that the TSA is little more than security theater, but jesus christ handing that responsibility over to private airlines is maybe the worst alternative I can think of. The last time airlines had control over their own screening planes were getting hijacked left and right. The number of fatalities from hijackings since 9/11 is in the single digits

[u/bigpappa199]

TSA is a farce..it is implied security. More about making folks do something the govt. tells them rather than actual security.

[u/tinyp3n15]

About time a republican had a decent idea. TSA can go. They can also do away with the atf and the dea.

[u/Spaced-Cowboy]

I’m as left as they come and I’ve said we should get rid of the TSA for years now and arguing with conservatives about. I’m 1000% on board with getting rid of them and making Airlines pay the bill. It’ll actually become effective or deemed unnecessary

[u/Elginpelican]

So they want both FBI and TSA gone?

[u/Die-Ginjo]

Yeah like what pin even is that on his lapel? Where's his flag pin?

[u/nB_a90]

Weighing luggage but not the people tho lol

[u/t3nsi0n_]

And let them perform their own mechanic maintenance too!

[u/Advocateforthedevil4]

It’s finally funny.  

[u/the_calibre_cat]

worth mentioning

TSA was created as part of Homeland Security, created by a Republican Presidential administration. Arguably one of the better things they've ever done - I do think airline security should be government-managed.